On my Tilt I usually dial via touchscreen using smart dialing on the standard keypad. I've disabled vibrating feedback for keypad presses but it's still abysmally slow and drops keypresses. Any advice?
Try disabling screen tap sound in settings. Check out kaisertweak and it's wiki if you are noting keyboard unresponsiveness in general.
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Try disabling screen tap sound in settings. Check out kaisertweak and it's wiki if you are noting keyboard unresponsiveness in general.
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ooo.i have the same problem (i guess). But i have screen taps sounds disabled. i'm a complete newbie with pocket pc, And what exactly to do?
I have already disabled the tap sounds. I have Kaisertweak. Do you have anything in particular you could point out in the wiki for me?
Does your touchscreen work well in other programs? There is a known issue with this.
There are several settings in Kaisertweak listed under TouchFLO for sensitivity/finger pressure/sound and I believe nikagl has recently updated the xml adding extremely high settings for some of these. I think the .exe has also been updated.
Some users have turned off scrolling (TouchFLO/scroller) also in KaiserTweak to get the screen to respond a bit faster - that's a bummer if you like scrolling tho...
Make sure you soft reset after changing these values.
Cheers-
Touch works fine everywhere else. I've disabled TouchFlo and will see if that helps.
I've also read here that you can increase the screen sensitivity threshold, as explained above as follows: With Registry Editor (Resco), go to HKLM/drivers/touchscreen sensitivity something, increase the rate.
The new Mobile Shell 2.0 has its own sort of dialer that works perfectly without lag so it's obviously just bad coding for the standard dialer.
Having used the Shell lookup some more I've decided it's nice but it can't really replace the default dialer because the phone function is central to that screen. Does anyone know of a nice super-crisp dialer that also has smart dial?
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i have a problem with screen sensitivity:
i am using a note software - calcnote 2.5:
http://www.inesoft.com/eng/index.php?in=calcnote.html
and it is impossible to use the stylus: instead of writing - it scrolls the screen.
i have modified scren sensitivity (diamond twaeks) - does not help.
any ideas?
Use Schap's Advance Config to make the screen have higher sensitivity.
i have.
still, the software scrolls the screen instead of writing on it with the stylus.
in older versions of touchflow, there an "exception" option - you could state software on which touchflow does not apply -
is there a similar option with the new touchflow working on WM6.1?
if this is the only "troublemaker" program the logical conclusion should be that maybe this program is incompatible with diamond/vga/tf3d. such programs exist,you know..
I have exactly the same problem with evernote and flashplayer.
Does anyone know how to make an exceptions list for biotouch? or touchflo(I am not sure about the name of the scrolling tool)
Anyone? plz
seems like its a gesture timeout problem! try placing the stylus leave for a bit and then draw! see if that works.
i dont know how to change the timeout with the diamond, ftouchSL lets you do that tho!
Anyone? Nobody else has the problem?
I have a program called Bug Me on my Touch and it has a setting called "long note" (I think that is what it is called ). What long note does is allow you to make notes longer than the screen size. In other words it allows the screen to scroll. I know that when I enabled it it did exactly what you are describing. Now I do not know if this is the problem that you have but just may want to have a look at the settings in Calcnote and see if you can uncheck something like long note ( I am not familliar with the program so I don't know what if any parameters it may have ). Also, I know from Bug Me that a long press envokes a contextual menu.
Dhatw.
Hi all,
I was wondering if and how you would go about changing the scrolling speed when using your finger...
E.g. If I open anything with a vertical scroll bar (say SMS inbox, file explorer etc), a slight flick of the screen would scroll down (or up) far too quick.
It used to be perfect on my Hermes device as standard.
I'm using Dutty's ROM on my Diamond.
Anywhere that I can change this?
Thanks.
Yes, i would like to know this too. I keep flicking up and down, or accidentally 'clicking an item' which is a pain..
Yeah, accidentally click on an item is also an issue for me (but apparently not for many others!)
Accidental click
Hi,
I'm having the same problem too...
There are some tweaks in the following thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398265
Also, try the Advanced Config tool... It has some options too.
But with all these, although there is a slight improvement in usability, still the experiance is not as good as the iphone.
More than the scroll speed, the accidental click is a real pain...
Especially in scenarios like: Programs --> Add program and Weather Application --> Add city
Is there any better fix available... pls help.
+1 for me too. This is really really annoying, and actually I don't think anything in the Advanced Config tool makes the slightest bit of difference to this setting. I set 'scrolling' to disabled under TouchFlo settings of Advanced Config too, but I can still scroll and it's still exactly the same as before.
any ideas about this? i just flashed my rom to dutty's 3.4 (originally a 3.2) and in resco explorer, the scrolling was almost as smooth as an iphone but now it's too fast and sometime non-responsive. anyone know what setting can change this?
This worked for me.
Hi guys,
I was just installing the new Manila Controller add on, which comes with FTouchFlo (SL). With the FTouchFlo enabled, scrolling is back to how it should be for me
Where did you find the Manilla Controller app?
sh500 said:
Hi guys,
I was just installing the new Manila Controller add on, which comes with FTouchFlo (SL). With the FTouchFlo enabled, scrolling is back to how it should be for me
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Yes. Where did you get the Manila app? I was searching for a way to only allow upon double click, but could not find anything in the settings.
It's the FTouchFlo that does the deal. The mentioned Manila Controller just encorporates a version of FTouchFlo to enable the upslide activation.
axelpix said:
It's the FTouchFlo that does the deal. The mentioned Manila Controller just encorporates a version of FTouchFlo to enable the upslide activation.
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Yep that's right, just do a search on FTouchFlo (renamed to FTouchSL?)
Been there, got the t-shirt. FTouchFlo (the old, free version) runs and doesn't do much. Scrolling in native WM windows is still messed up.
Just flashed to latest ROM from Dutty and first thing I installed was FTouchFlo (via Manilla controller). Didn't test the scrolling before, but now, again every menu (native or otherwise) seems to be 'scrollable' for me.
Any other success stories with FTouchFlo? I installed and activated it, but it didn't do much.
I have used this setting to calm this finger flicking crazyness down:
HKLM\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings:
SpeedHigh: default value (25) <-- Change to (5) / SpeedLow : default value (70) <-- Chnge to (14) save and soft reset
Many custom ROMs are including the 5 and 14 setting respectively this makes it crazy fast when flicking with the finger. I suggest using default settings here or, in my case I use 25 for SpeedHigh and 50 for SpeedLow, wich does improve scrolling over default when using the finger but keeps the finger flick toned down. BTW, I've noticed that when flicking witht the finger the first flick engages SpeedLow and a second flick switches to SpeedHigh.
This has just started recently... but I've made so many changes, I'm not sure which one affected it. When typing a new or replying to a SMS or email, occasionally (key word there) the letters that I'm typing won't show up. The cursor moves - and if/when I send it, all the letters I've typed will send. Also if I save it as a draft, then re-open it, it shows everything... then I can type a few more letters, and it blanks out again. Any suggestions or help as to what this is? It's only in the message entry part of the screen; I can still see the start menu and bottom menu bars.
Thanks!
If it is only happening in Landscape mode then turn of ClearType font. Cleartype font no longer displays correctly in WM 6.1 in landscape mode. There is a setting in KaiserTweaks that says it will but it only forces something and makes it so text does not display at all.
it's happening in both modes... and cleartype isn't enabled - nor is it in KaiserTweaks. any other suggestions?
its a long shot, but the keyboard hardware speed up cab here might tweak somthing to make it work, its a long shot but it sounds like to me a glitch in the reg....
This is happening to me as well!!!
This is also happening to me. I installed a couple of programs recently including the HTC update to fix the backlight issue, Pocket Sudoku, The RR Keyboard Speed increase cab, Raisak's Flatbar black, and Pocket RAR. Did you install any of these recently?
I did install the RR keyboard - but none of the others and I haven't done the backlight fix. My messages were lagging bigtime - not the stereotypical missing the occasional letter because I type too fast, but I'd click on new sms and it'd literally take 30 seconds or longer to open. I don't know that i've fixed it but I disabled HTC home and HTC homeplugin and then ran the RR keyboard cab, then enabled the HTC apps. I haven't been able to make it mess up again...yet.
*edit* its still having issues. But I can't figure out why sometimes it works just fine and others I literally have to soft reset it to get it to respond.
I really enjoy this forum since it helps me a lot to increase the productivity with my HTC Touch Pro. I found many useful applications. Unfortunately, after installing a large number of them, I run into the infamous 32 processes limit of Windows Mobile. So I decided to write my own app that combines all the features that I find useful. It is implemented as a Pocket PC service, so it does not require an own process.
Here are the features:
- Better vibration for incoming calls. I found the built-in vibration function very annoying as it vibrates permanently during an incoming call. This extensions vibrates in pulses of 300 ms with a pause of one second when a call is incoming
- SIP changer depending on stylus state. If stylus is out, another soft input panel is selected as if stylus is in. Can be changed via the registry keys StylusInSIP and StylusOutSIP.
- Stroke Launcher. If the finger is stroked from one button to another, an application is launched.Four directions are possible: From home button to accept phone call button and vice versa as well as from back button to reject phone call button and vice versa. The applications can be configured via the RightUpApp, RightDownApp, LeftUpApp and LeftDownApp registry keys. The required length of the stroke can be configured via the GestureMinLen registry key. Unfortunately, the program has to poll HTC's NAV sensor directly in order to not disturb the functionality of the wheel sensor. The sleep time between two polls can be configured with the GesturePollingDelay (in ms). If you use very fast strokes and the device does not react, try to decrease this value.
- Key lock if device is face down. The key lock is activated and the device is powered off if it is turned face down. The key locked is acknowledged by two short vibrations. Key lock can be disabled depending on the foreground window or active process list. Exclude list can be specified via the ExcludedProcesses and ExcludedWindows registry keys. The tolerance for the face down detection can be configured via the FacedownTolerance registry key.
The registry settings for Buttler are stored in HKLM\Software\Butler. Each extension described above can be switched of by setting the EnableFeature registry key to 0.
As I have not much time to react on bugs or feature requests, I have also attached the source code. Fell free to modify my Butler but please publish it here so that we all can benefit from it.
The Butler service is started with the program "StartButler.exe" located in the Windows directory. I call it from a MortScript during device boot. It is important that HTC Touch Flo 3D is already loaded. For some reason, the gsensors can not be initialized if Touch Flo 3D is not loaded. Here is the code I use:
# Wait for TouchFlo3D
While(ProcExists("manila.exe")=0)
Sleep(1000)
EndWhile
# Start the butler
Run("\Windows\StartButler.exe")
Have fun!
Siggie
Change log:
V1.0:
- Initial release
V1.1:
- Reading of the NAV sensor completely rewritten. The sensor is now directly polled. This does not interfere with other programs, so the wheel sensor and the camera is working again.
- EnableFeature registry keys added for switching off each extension individually.
linuxis said:
New thread For Keyboard Slide Out Support:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3305730#post3305730
Updated CAB is there. Happy using.
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sounds like an excellent program, I'll try it
man, great app. it is totally replacing hbutton, and lets me start using voice commander again. two questions....can you list the other sip layout entries? i really want to use the full qwerty when the stylus is out and in. secondly, is there a way to define a diff lock such as s2u2 and then shut down. either way, the function is fine as is and really, thanks for sharing
I'm interest in Stroke Launcher more than the other apps. is there a chance you can provide a cab for just that portion of your application> I know it's contrary to your original intent (of combining apps) but that's the only one of those apps I really would want so I have the opposite- no desire to install any extra apps even if it's a single process Thanks.
about to give it a shot, sounds great
but i second the request to have s2u2 when put face down
noticed that if you delete the entries for sip, keeping the actual keys though. butler wont start. guess it still needs to check those values i was trying to get it to do nothing to my sip's and just keep full qwerty.
edit** here is the key for full qwerty {36BC8FF6-8241-4c36-ABDE-204885471FEE} and the other keys are all listed under HKCR/CLSID and look like this:
(HTC SIPs)
{198D503A-...} = Phone Keypad
{36BC8FF6-...} = Full QWERTY
{62B00599-...} = Compact QWERTY
(MS Default SIPs)
{42429667-...} = Keyboard
{42429690-...} = Letter Recognizer
{42429691-...} = Block Recognizer
{F0034DD0-...} = Transcriber
Maybe it would be easier to be able to just input the name
Sound great, I'll give it a try as well.
can you make it so that when it face down, the light turn off?
ok i figured out how to change what sip came when
and i turned off "facedown"
only problem is that the smart scroll such as zooming in opera and pics no longer works or autofocus in camera
Great app cannot go unrecognized!
so i downloaded and installed and forgot to make shortcut. A day after i just luanch it using fileexplorer with copy on storage card. Sounds like alot but considering i only reset once a week maybe... its not so bad.
After using it for a half day. I have to admit i was waiting for a way to use shortcuts with out using manilla. I am a RLtoday fan and i dont really use all of manilla features. I LOVE IT. I am considering removing Manilla all together. This has great potential for those of use that want alternatives to manilla.
This should really be placed in essentials.
Thank you.
**BTW cant get screen lock disabled, anyone have more detailed instructions for disabling face down lock?
to disable the lock i set the sensor threshold to 0
in the registry path that was said earlier in the thread
V1.1 available
I have added a new version that fixes the wheel sensor and camera problem. There are also now registry keys available to switch off each feature individually.
ok I dont know what happend but i installed this app and after a restart the keyboard pops up on the splash screen and the phone freezes.. I need a resolution fast. I really dotn want to hard reset. I have a lot of stuff i need back up.... Please help!!!
fuk it. had to hard reset.
any chance on just releasing stroke launcher as a standalone app so we don't need to install all and then disable them? Thanks
Exclude S2U2
How can I disable stroke launcher, when s2u2 is active? I tried to add S2U2(name of DWORD value=0) to ExcludedWindows and s2u2.exe to ExcludedProcesses, but stroke launcher is still active, any ideas?
Great App siggie1970,
Thanks .. I Think The most important thing to do now is to add a User Interface for the configuration..as it kinda hard to do it through the registry
thanks
Wow amazing programs are being released and 09 just started. Great name btw How are resources being used with this program? Since your combining apps perhaps you could work with the guy to incorporate his new alternative to gyrator/ screen tilt app.
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any chance on just releasing stroke launcher as a standalone app so we don't need to install all and then disable them? Thanks
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that is not the purpose of the program
would it be possible to turn one of the sides into scrolling up and down?
like leave the left up and down for app launching but right side scrolling that would make it pretty much perfect for me
then of course a configurator, although i got it setup but no fun having to change on each new install
It sounds like a great program, thanks! Stroke Launcher, I like that one LOL
Ok, first to the admins/moderators - I searched my ass off trying to find a thread with my problem, to no avail... so if there is one, please excuse me...
So here is my problem - I find it very difficult to scroll any list with my finger because I just end up selecting some item from the list... Is there any registry setting to, lets say, delay the select behavior of TouchFlo? I mean, for example, I try scrolling my contacts, I AM able to scroll but almost immediately after I start scrolling I end up selecting some contact!?! Am I the only one with that problem? PLEASE HELP!
Bump. Anyone?
I just have the problem the other way around, I just can't select multiple items because everything starts scrolling...
try scrolling with finger in more center of screen
selecting works if you scroll motion on left or right side usually
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try scrolling with finger in more center of screen
selecting works if you scroll motion on left or right side usually
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Also , make it more of a " flick " with your finger, instead of a touch and drag scroll.
So there's no registry setting? I have tried changing settings in HKLM\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings, HKLM\Software\HTC\HTCGesture, HKLM\Drivers\Touchpanel, HKLM\Software\HTC\TouchScroll... can't seem to make any difference!!! The screen becomes more responsive, scrolling is faster/slower, but no effect on my problem - whenever I try to scroll I always end up selecting... there HAS to be some setting that determines the delay from scrolling to selecting behavior... it works so well on the damn iPhone... also works beautifully on the S2U2 settings screen... they should fire all the idiots at HTC and hire the S2U2 guys to do their interface!!!
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So there's no registry setting? I have tried changing settings in HKLM\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings, HKLM\Software\HTC\HTCGesture, HKLM\Drivers\Touchpanel, HKLM\Software\HTC\TouchScroll... can't seem to make any difference!!! The screen becomes more responsive, scrolling is faster/slower, but no effect on my problem - whenever I try to scroll I always end up selecting... there HAS to be some setting that determines the delay from scrolling to selecting behavior... it works so well on the damn iPhone... also works beautifully on the S2U2 settings screen... they should fire all the idiots at HTC and hire the S2U2 guys to do their interface!!!
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u should blow up their forums then
Oh well, I guess I'll just wait till some genius dev out there finds out the right registry key, I give up
I hate to say this, but I think that is the expected behavior or TouchFlo scrolling.
You can drag to scroll specifically (and I don't believe this selects anything, at least on my Tilt), or you can swipe to start kinetic scrolling. If you click while kinetic scrolling is occurring, I think TouchFlo causes a selection to be made (although in places where single-click activate is the default, I don't think it actually activates the item--it simply highlights it).
You may be able to resolve this by changing the TFLOSettings\FingerPressure value.
I had a problem for the first six months with TouchFlo where the context menu would pop up about one in three times I tried to scroll (swiping or dragging). This happened even the moment I started using the device. Completely and utterly unusable. But after the third or so time I tried adjusting TFLOSettings values in the registry, I finally solved the problem. I ended up with TFLOSettings\FingerPressure=0x64 (100) and TouchPanel\PressureThreshold=0xC8 (200).
I REALLY wish HTC or someone would produce a complete guide to customizing TouchFlo scrolling (including the meanings of the TFLOSETTINGS values). It really works well, once it is optimized. Although, it will be great if Microsoft builds scrolling into the Common Controls in WM6.5.
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Oh well, I guess I'll just wait till some genius dev out there finds out the right registry key, I give up
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Actually there are genius developers in here. I think you're just being a little picky, the touch flo works fine for me.
I think I recall a touchflo sensitivity setting in KaiserTweak. Get it, then try setting the Touchflo sensitivity to the most sensitive option possible.
Dave
+1 on Kaisertweek, altho I reduced sensitivity instead of increasing it. Technique counts too. I tend to use nails or stylus for browsers, especially Opera. Use keyboard for contacts, and scrollwheel to dial it from there. Every phone is different, but reducing sensitivity via Kaisertweek worked for me.
Problem solved
Finally figured it out and now it works perfectly. The culprit was the too high value in HKLM\Drivers\Touchpanel\PressureThreshold.... I put a value of 160 (dword:000000a0) and now I have almost iPhone experience
heres a thread closer !
to bring some closure to this thread, the following utility will solve all your touchflo woes!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=499837