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Windows Mobile 5 and Alpine -Should WM5 be on the Alpine?POL

Hi guys and gals.
Great forum and I will be coming back every hour, helps everyone trmeendously well.
Anyway I have an xda 2i which i bought last month and is going great. Got tomtom 5 on it and syncs it with my outlook. Nothing could go wrong...
and it hasn't but looking at the new WINDOWS MOBILE 5 it looks os much more modern and I was looking to upgrade.
I have looked at the other posts and people have been talking about there is no upgrade. I wonder as there is the himalaya and it runs bascially on the same system doesn't it?
but here is an ebay auction that sells it for xda2i so is it true or ont?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Windows-Mobil...864660131QQcategoryZ38331QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
p.s they have changed the ebay autions now so that they don't say xda2i but they sued to.

Are there not loads of problems with TomTom 5 and WM5?

Should WM5 be on the Alpine?
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Of course everyone want the latest on their device but as Alpine device not too famous enough and still much more need to be discover. IF there's anyone selling upgrade for XDA IIi on ebay, he wont be anyone except from here also. As I know, the GOD of WM5 is buzz...... he can be damn rich if selling like that on ebay but he dont want.
If we dreaming to having WM5 on our device without any action, we wont stop dreaming. How about making donation so that we can buy an Alpine device for buzz...........
any suggestion???? any protest???

ok
thanks for your replys but being a noob here, the alpine and the himalaya are nearly the same except some of the specs.
Can't we use a himalaya WM5 upgradero n an Alpine?
Has anybody tried this?
I was going to but I wanted to check with you guys first.

no no no! it wont work! Himalaya WM5 wont work on Alpine.

u seem quite sure, did u try it and it broke ur alpine?

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daz4590 said:
thanks for your replys but being a noob here, the alpine and the himalaya are nearly the same except some of the specs.
Can't we use a himalaya WM5 upgradero n an Alpine?
Has anybody tried this?
I was going to but I wanted to check with you guys first.
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The devices may look the same but that's where the similarities end.
Hardware wise they are totally different and therefore completely incompatible. Until someone creates a rom editor and has the knowledge to mix the base OS with the drivers from 2003se, or even create new ones, cooked versions won't be available.
The suppliers won't release an update because, like Clustered said, not enough people use the Alpine to justify the huge financial outlay. It's all about profit.
Even if customers pay for an update, the cost would be greater than buying an OS for a PC because of the relatively few people who would upgrade. It would take about 10 minutes for pirated copies to end up on the internet as well, putting an even bigger dent in profits.
I think it should happen but unfortunately, it won't.

windows CE6

Today windows ce6 was launched. can anyone tell me if this will work on a qtek 9100 ? currently running win mobile 5

Don't think so buddy .

"Released" means to manufacturers and developers. You and I will probably never see it on any device currently available.

It'll still be 4-6 months before any devices come to market with it...

4-6 months?
hehe.
Windows Mobile 6.0 will be released in 2008.

Platform Builder
Well, I've gotten my grubby little hands on the Ce6 platform builder, which should allow me to make a rom. Unfortunately, it requires a hefty amount of configuring to get it to work. When I get some time, I'll see if I can make a rom.
-Jim

I have also gotten the embedded CE6, when I have some time I'll check it out. See if it can be installed on the Wizard

plasticbiker: is that with a full HTC bsp, or just the generic non OEM version?
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myx4ever said:
Today windows ce6 was launched. can anyone tell me if this will work on a qtek 9100 ? currently running win mobile 5
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Would be nice to have a stable WM5 first...........

This is not what I was led to beleive it was, this is for developers and manufacturers who want to pay $1000+ for all the software. Maybe someone who is a hardcore programming hobbyist can help us, other than that I think we get to wait.

any chance of you shareing your embedded CE6 alone it may take awhile but if we all work together thing will go alot faster as u know

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street_hawk
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Here's a link to the article:
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/5716.html
And here's a link to the trial:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/emb...val/trial.mspx
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this is what i downloaded

vijay555 said:
plasticbiker: is that with a full HTC bsp, or just the generic non OEM version?
V
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I have just the basic Platform Builder that MS is giving out.
Link
My experience with WM5 platform builder leads me to believe that it won't be a trivial task to create something that is actually usable on the wizard. One needs to migrate drivers and such from WM5. Odds are, unfortunately, that the WM5 drivers will not be compatiable. Microsoft is claiming Ce6 is a complete rewrite.

What about Windows 7 mobile ?

Somebody knows new Windows 7 for mobile ?

???
Dude I don't think that is on the horizon yet. Microsoft is still trying to get 6.5 to look good.
mirkomircea said:
Somebody knows new Windows 7 for mobile ?
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mirkomircea said:
Somebody knows new Windows 7 for mobile ?
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WM7 isn't even in closed beta stage yet. And when it IS eventually released, it will NOT run on the Kaiser, ever.

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I removed my post becasue I do not know what I was talking about

The last I heard was Microsoft released strong minimum specs for Windows Mobile 7 devices to ensure the new mobile OS runs well and gives a good consumer experience.
Here are some informational links:
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=7528
http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/10/windows-mobile-7-chassis-concept-confirmed-by-microsoft-not-det/
http://uxevangelist.blogspot.com/2009/05/windows-mobile-7-ui-still-under.html

last thing i heard about it was:
Microsoft has confirmed that the current team of 1,000 developers, working on Windows Mobile 7, are planning to feature social networks as a key element of Windows Mobile 7. In a company job posting, spotted by Mobile Tech World, officials are looking for a senior program manager in the Windows Mobile 7 Communications Group: The Windows Mobile 7 Communications group is building experiences on the phone that present your content - friends, pictures, messages, events - to you in immersive and engaging ways. Our vision is to bring social networks to life by integrating them into the core experience of the phone.
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Read full story here:
http://www.neowin.net/news/main/09/09/17/windows-mobile-7-info-1000-engineers-working-on-project

Moved to general as no real substinance for ROM Development MS are still refining 6.5 so really no news except what others posters above.
Leaving open just incase someone come up with a nuget about WM7...
Peace,
stylez.

Htc Dream with Windows Mobile?

Hi,
I was looking for this topic on google, and later on Xda forum but I found nothing. From many years I was working with Windows Mobile, and now my friend asked me to instal Windows on his Htc Dream and I was totaly schocked, when I realise that nobody wanted to change Android to Windows Mobile.
Is there any way to do it? Or can you give me any links to [ROM] Windows Mobile 6.1/6.5 for Htc Dream
Thanks for help!

use the search function its been asked before, as far as i remember, no one cares to make a port because why put a bad OS on a phone with a good OS?

It might be possible to port it from the Leo(Not out yet) since it has a capacitive screen. But we would still have to fix the rom to fit the screen size and the drivers and such so it might not even come.

I am glad someone else has posted this, last week i was looking for some info on this and noticed all of the WinMo threads were closed.
I am hoping that WinMo makes it to the G1, i plan on buying a Cliq when they are released so the G1 is going to be a play/spare phone and it would be cool to play around with Winmo 6.5 and whatnot. I know a lot of people said WinMo sucks, but on decent hardware like the G1 it should be better.
Also as i was looking around dba.net i noticed a lot of the new HTC WinMo phones have the same chipset, CPU and whatnot. Hopefully this will make porting it a lot easier for some cooks and we will see WinMo on the Dream hardware sometime in the near future =)

While we're at it why don't we put the iphone os on the G1 too.

Maybe not iPhone software, I think Symbian S60 is better
But let's back, is there anyone on the earth who has already cooked this rom or it's only hoping that after a lot of time there will be a person, who will answer on our requests and make rom for g1??

Heniek_W said:
Maybe not iPhone software, I think Symbian S60 is better
But let's back, is there anyone on the earth who has already cooked this rom or it's only hoping that after a lot of time there will be a person, who will answer on our requests and make rom for g1??
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Well I know you couldn't tell but I was being sarcastic with the iphone os. And people got the G1 to have android and not windows mobile. I doubt anyone will ever build a windows mobile rom for the g1. So don't hold your breath.

supremeteam256 said:
While we're at it why don't we put the iphone os on the G1 too.
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/cry
I really liked that supreme guy
/cry
but now i gotsta cut em from the will
/cry
he's been spending too much time with codani
P.S. I cooked my own WM6.1 ROM when I had a Kaiser. Now that I have a G1 I have absolutely no interest is seeing WM again.

fingerlickin said:
he's been spending too much time with codani
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I've been doin my best to bash him for it. But I think he finally got frustrated enought. Think he's waitin on the sholes now.

hehe I know, I really hope HTC announces a successor to the G1 soon cause I really don't like moto.

Fingerlickin said:
hehe I know, I really hope HTC announces a successor to the G1 soon cause I really don't like moto.
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Yessir me too. Plus you just won't have the support for moto like you do with htc.

You're shocked that nobody would want to put GARBAGE in place of GOLD?
If you want GARBAGE, why buy a PREMIUM SMARTPHONE?
Heniek_W said:
Hi,
I was looking for this topic on google, and later on Xda forum but I found nothing. From many years I was working with Windows Mobile, and now my friend asked me to instal Windows on his Htc Dream and I was totaly schocked, when I realise that nobody wanted to change Android to Windows Mobile.
Is there any way to do it? Or can you give me any links to [ROM] Windows Mobile 6.1/6.5 for Htc Dream
Thanks for help!
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A swear there's a thread like this every week. If only we could implement a function in the dream forum to disallow thread titles with windows and mobile in them

AdrianK said:
A swear there's a thread like this every week. If only we could implement a function in the dream forum to disallow thread titles with windows and mobile in them
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I second that motion.

3rded
It would be too hard anyway. I doubt the experienced devs for android are gonna spend time rewritting the drivers and going all out of their way for winmo. They would probably much rather work on making their android roms better

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Well I know you couldn't tell but I was being sarcastic with the iphone os. And people got the G1 to have android and not windows mobile. I doubt anyone will ever build a windows mobile rom for the g1. So don't hold your breath.
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OK, but when they pass case that Android isn't the best OS they could have, they want to change it for another OS, exactly for Windows Mobile. And now they havn't any possibility to do it.
Maybe for some of them Android is the BEST OS, but not for all.

So topic has ended. Ok, I see that all of you affirm Android is the best thing which was made for this smartphone.
But I will be thankful, when someone cooks Windows Rom for G1.

the g1 is only one of the army of android phones .. the statements you made is said by members who have not really fully experienced android , I loved w_mobile over the iphone , but then android came along , so i filed for a divorce ,, now I fully support android .,..,

android= most complete, refined mobile os. period. and i have an iphone too. it sucks. least flexible mobile os ever. even with jailbreak
only thing good about it is that there's a crapload of fart apps.

I wouldn't say that Android is complete..... there are still a lot of things to be implemented.
However, Android is handsdown the best MobileOS thanks to the 3rd party community

Windows Phone 7 OS on X1!

Hi developers do you think that we can put wp 7 on x1 ? if so then please cook it.
Thanks

No, Sys. req. of WP7 is to high for X1

Windows Phone 7 WILL NOT be supported on ANY current WinMo Phones
Why did you post here? This is the android section!
And why did you put a exclamation mark behind it?

win mob 7 on x1
in the youtube clip below at 0:56 you can see that man use a xperia x1 phone from the keyboard, so i think that is possible to run wm7 on x1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn1r1Wb5m5s

ncw2k69 said:
in the youtube clip below at 0:56 you can see that man use a xperia x1 phone from the keyboard, so i think that is possible to run wm7 on x1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn1r1Wb5m5s
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That is just a promo video, nothing real.

People who post ridiculous topis like this, in the wrong place, should be banned immediately. Do your research before asking stupid questions. Reading forum rules wouldn't hurt as well...

why not？ i want to use wp7 on my x1 very much！

It's not even possible. You'd have to recompile the WP7 kernel to even run on Qualcomm 72XX CPUs. To do this you'd need access to the source code, which Microsoft probably guards very very heavily.