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aladin2000 said:
Hi,
do you tried also a buttom to call with voice command application or a phone call ?
I've a HTC S100 and the sound is well but it's very difficult to start a voice commande or to recall last call because seem that the function "hand free" sometime is lose.
Sorry for my poor English !
Regards
aladino
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I have the same problem with my handsfree headsets an Tytn II (kaiser):
i have a motorola H700 and a Scalarider headset for helmets.
They are bot NON-ADP and thyey support handsfree.
Sometimes the button on them stop working and I can't do voice dialing with Voice command neither repeat last call.
They appear as connected and If I manually call a number they work.
To get the button works again I have to restart the phone.
Maybe a fault in the microsoft bluetooth stack?
Also: my Motorola H700 has a flip and when you open it the headset turn on and get connected.
You should be able to answer phone calls by opening the flip.
Sometimes it works, but most of the time it doesn't connect if I open it while the phone is ringing and in that case I have to restart bluetooth connection to make it work again.
Microsoft or HTC should check end improve bluetooth stack!
Any hack around?
Can't we put the broadcom instead of microsoft stack on kaiser?
I wrote to HTC Support about this problem and they answered :
"Customer email address:XXXXXXXXXX
Good Afternoon,
The multi function button is the one small button with the led light in, not the big play/pause button.
If you try the other button, it should work.
Thank you for your enquiry, Should you have any other problem, please do not hesitate to call us. Your Local number can be found at http://www.europe.htc.com/support/csbyphone.html
Best regards,
XXXXX
HTC Europe
[email protected]
http://www.htc.com "
That's incredible don't you ?
They beleive I'm idiot ?
Regards
aladino
Astonished!
Amazing answer!
Are they idiot?
I'll write them too,
I hope someone cleverer will read the my mail
and suggest the bug to the technical stuff.
I have a motorola H350 and have been experiencing the same problems. It's driving me mad. The problem makes the use of the hands free totally useless as it seems to stop working at the drop of a hat.
What I've found so far.
To get it working you need to turn on the ear piece.
Then turn on the bluetooth on the phone.
If you do this any other way it doesn't work. Once it's working you may or may not be able to hang up with the button. If that's the case it won't answer with the button either.
Once it's working it seems to work ok till either the headset or the phone's bluetooth is turned off.
Voice dial will not fire up until the main procedure if followed and sometimes it takes several tries.
I was wondering if this was something to do with the motorola but seemingly it's to do with the stack so getting another device isn't going to help I guess.
The bluetooth worked perfectly on the Hermes but immediately I got the Kaiser one thing alerted me to the fact that something was different.
With the Hermes, as soon as I turned on the bluetooth and the earpiece the phone would alert me to the fact that the motorola wanted to connect.
With the Kaiser nothing, even when I searched for a device. I had to find out how to put the earpiece into search mode before it would find it.
Very flakey and very disappointing. I hope someone finds a fix for this.
Anyone else experiencing these problems?
I've got an H700 and Jawbone. I do notice more crackle type sounds and lower volume on both using Kaiser compared to my 8525. The H700 connects within 1-2 seconds when opening it's flip and I have noticed that on occasion, if I walk away from the phone (eg. phone on desk) the headset may not reconnect when I return. The Jawbone has been fairly good at connecting and staying functional at all times but the volume is lower as noted by many people.
I would say that the stack overall is better than the 8525's for all the devices I've tried (3 headsets, 2 Laptops, 1 Garmin Streetpilot with BT Phone interface)
I am also losing the Voice speed dial & redial button from time to time. It also worked that way with my hermes, so I kinda get used to it...
I am now wondering if it is related to my BT earpiece (nokia bh-200 or something like this) of if it is the BT stack which has never been really working on all the device I could test (hermes, trinity, kaiser).
I allmost never had issue recieving call (I don't recieve much call while using the BT earpiece) but it is sometime impossible to initiate a call through the BT earpiece.
The simplest way for me to lose the voice recognition is to:
-Start BT on the phone
-Start BT earpiece
Phone recognize the earpiece, everything is fine
-Restart the phone
Phone & BT reconnect, but voice recognition & redial are gone
I would really appreciate of some of you could test my little procedure and report if it works of not. If it is working for some other BT earpiece I may change mine and get rid of this eternal annoying issue.
Thanks
Jabra BT500
I have the Jabra BT500 and same problem with the TyTn II.
The earpiece can't initiate a voice call...
Looks like HTC (or Windows), starts to deliver ROMs like Mr. Bill Gates does with his M$ crap...
If someone find a solution for this Bluetooth problem, please post it!!!!
Thanks a lot,
Kaiser and Moto H700 just do not work together
I also have a problem with the Kaiser and a Moto H700. The M700 button stops working randomly, the BT connection sometimes disconnect during the call at will.
I can still use H700 successfully with my old Nokia 6680, so the problem clearly is in the Kaisers BT stack.
I’ve made the BT update that HTC posted just recently for TyTN II, but it had no effect.
Fortunately, I have my old Moto H500. This one is working OK with the Kaiser, but. Like it was pointed here before me, the only way to get it working you need to turn on the ear piece. Then turn on the Bluetooth on the phone.
In case if the Bluetooth connection was disrupted for some reason, the only way to make it work is again swath Kaiser BT off then turn on the ear piece and switch on the TyTNs BT.
The Kaiser’s BT stack is not good also connecting with a PC, the connection is just not stable.
Just wanted to chime in and say I've had the exact same problems with my Tilt and Motorola H700 as various people have described here. I posted about it on the AT&T forum too, and no one there has any working solution either, AFAIK. I too tried the "fix" from HTC, and to no avail.
This is a pretty big disappointment for me; I love my Tilt, but Bluetooth is not new technology, and it's really inconvenient that it works so poorly on this phone.
Motorola headsets seem to have a problem with this device. I had trouble getting my H500 to connect and the voice button to work. Once I reset the phone when the headset was on and it wouldn't connect. I tried deleting and re-pairing. It took another reset to get it back. Fortunately I don't use that headset anymore.
jameselee said:
Just wanted to chime in and say I've had the exact same problems with my Tilt and Motorola H700 as various people have described here. I posted about it on the AT&T forum too, and no one there has any working solution either, AFAIK. I too tried the "fix" from HTC, and to no avail.
This is a pretty big disappointment for me; I love my Tilt, but Bluetooth is not new technology, and it's really inconvenient that it works so poorly on this phone.
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The same problem.
But this time with the Sony Ericsson BT HBH - DS980.
I also put the "fix" from HTC, I gave them back and they change them with another brand new Sony Ericsson BT HBH - DS980, but the problem exists.
costas2by4AIO said:
The same problem.
But this time with the Sony Ericsson BT HBH - DS980.
I also put the "fix" from HTC, I gave them back and they change them with another brand new Sony Ericsson BT HBH - DS980, but the problem exists.
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I just bought the same headset... cant get it work with the TyTN II - Kaiser but pairs without any problem with my TyTN I - Hermes... clearly it is the BT Stack
Way beyond my abilities, but cant the BT stack on Hermes be cooked into a rom for the Kaiser ?
I have a Motorola HT820 and a Motorola S9 both devices are working flawless with the kaiser.
Now i own a motorola S705 too , with this device my kaiser suddenly turn the bluetooth off (
regards
Apparently there is a known issue with the Microsoft bluetooth stack which makes it virtually useless to use this phone with Infiniti/Nissan vehicles.
I own a G37, and when I connect the Tilt, everything connects but the quality is sooooo poor that it sounds as if I have the phone in the house and the car is 100 ft away (crackling sound, and no one on the other end can hear me).
I have tried several of the roms here, including the official ones, and no luck thus far. I have tried playing around with the bitpool settings and once again no luck.
Anyone have any suggestions? Is there any way of replacing the Microsoft stack implementation from the Kaiser with the one from the Hermes? That one works perfectly with my car...
Have you tried Austinsync's clean rom? Its working fine with my M45 and I had the same problem you did with some other ROMs. Not sure if ROM change fixed it or one of the other hundred changes I make to my phone every other day. I assume you have adjusted the volume while in-call?
sell your car and buy American!
kireol said:
sell your car and buy American!
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Your phone is made by a Taiwanese manufacturer. I tried searching for a American-made cellphone so that you could immediately begin your purchasing prospects, but was stunned to find that there is not one American cellphone manufacturer.
Your profile picture looks somewhat like a Dodge Ram to me. You might be interested to know that Chrysler recently built a new $315M Dodge plant in Brazil. They also worked collaboratively with Mitsubishi and Hyundai to design 3 engines that will be manufactured mostly in South Korea and Japan.
But let me get back to the topic at hand. I own a 2007 G35S Sedan and I have had very minimal trouble with my Tilt and the handsfree system. Everything works fine, including the reception meter (never worked on my 8525, even with WM6 ROMs). The only problem that I have noticed is that if I answer an incoming call using the button on the steering wheel, the car appears to start the call, though the audio is routed through the phone for the first 10 seconds and then the car resumes control. It is worth noting that I couldn't get my 8525 (WM6) to work with the car at all - even with the latest and greatest.
I will borrow my dad's Kaiser (as mine was returned earlier today), and try the Austinsnyc's superstorage rom. Hope it works, although I think it's based on the base HTC rom. As I'm sure they're using the same Bluetooth stack, problem should be the same.
Either way, I'll try and report if it works.
As far as the buying American... I thought that whole marketing scheme went out the window a few years ago when Chrysler merged with Mercedes Benz, and most of our products are made in China (as our workers are not willing to work so cheap without going on strike)... don't you just love the beauty of the world economy?
klasikahl said:
Your phone is made by a Taiwanese manufacturer. I tried searching for a American-made cellphone so that you could immediately begin your purchasing prospects, but was stunned to find that there is not one American cellphone manufacturer.
Your profile picture looks somewhat like a Dodge Ram to me. You might be interested to know that Chrysler recently built a new $315M Dodge plant in Brazil. They also worked collaboratively with Mitsubishi and Hyundai to design 3 engines that will be manufactured mostly in South Korea and Japan.
But let me get back to the topic at hand. I own a 2007 G35S Sedan and I have had very minimal trouble with my Tilt and the handsfree system. Everything works fine, including the reception meter (never worked on my 8525, even with WM6 ROMs). The only problem that I have noticed is that if I answer an incoming call using the button on the steering wheel, the car appears to start the call, though the audio is routed through the phone for the first 10 seconds and then the car resumes control. It is worth noting that I couldn't get my 8525 (WM6) to work with the car at all - even with the latest and greatest.
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It was supposed to be a joke as it has nothing to do with the car. But since you wanted to act all high and mighty......
My Dodge ram was designed approximately 15 miles from my house. It was built 5.5 miles from my house. The company that built it employs approx 200,000+ direct employees and roughly 400,000 indirect, here in the U.S., where i live. At an average salary of $75,000 that's roughly 45,000,000,000 that the company that I buy my car from pumps back into the American economy. This does not include car dealers.
The 2007 G35S is designed in Japan. The 2007 G35S is built in Japan. The 2007 G35S employs maybe 1000 people here in the U.S. because someone has to import it and drive the boat, drive trucks, and do paper work. At an average salary(i'm sure it's way off but lets pretend) of $75,000 that's 75,000,000 that gets pumped back into the American economy. This does not include car dealers.
45,000,000,000 vs 75,000,000
yeah, you are right, it's all even. buy imported cars. it makes sense.
Thats EXACTLY the same problem with my 2007 G35 sedan and my HTC TYTN 2.
When i press the receive button, it takes 10-15 seconds to transfer over to the car audio (goes to the handset first).
THe only solution i have is to receive the call using the phone's talk button, which will go immediately to the car.
I am currently running Dutty's Touchflow Final 2 rom.
BTW. Before my G35, i had a 2006 Chrysler 300C Hemi rollin on 22's with full multimedia setup. My first domestic. I only owned imports before. After i came back to get my infinity G35 (after my major accident), i remember now why imports are so much better than domestci. The Infiniti is built like a ROCK, and the 300 was very crude in build quality.
Anyhow.
klasikahl said:
Your phone is made by a Taiwanese manufacturer. I tried searching for a American-made cellphone so that you could immediately begin your purchasing prospects, but was stunned to find that there is not one American cellphone manufacturer.
Your profile picture looks somewhat like a Dodge Ram to me. You might be interested to know that Chrysler recently built a new $315M Dodge plant in Brazil. They also worked collaboratively with Mitsubishi and Hyundai to design 3 engines that will be manufactured mostly in South Korea and Japan.
But let me get back to the topic at hand. I own a 2007 G35S Sedan and I have had very minimal trouble with my Tilt and the handsfree system. Everything works fine, including the reception meter (never worked on my 8525, even with WM6 ROMs). The only problem that I have noticed is that if I answer an incoming call using the button on the steering wheel, the car appears to start the call, though the audio is routed through the phone for the first 10 seconds and then the car resumes control. It is worth noting that I couldn't get my 8525 (WM6) to work with the car at all - even with the latest and greatest.
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No problems in my M45...
Maybe it's the car and not the phone?
I had a G35 prior to the Bluetooth option so I cant speak about the quality there but the M45 has been pretty good. the Tilt has a low out put at times but 95% of the time it connects perfectly with zero issues. beats using a headset imo
could be the car, but more than likely it's not... here's why:
I have successfully paired and used 2 tytn, 2 8125 (Wizard), and 1 ol' school SMT5600. All worked fine without any crackling, or the other person on the other end not hearing me...
On the other hand, I have tried 2 Kaisers and both exhibit the exact same things...
(btw, in the info screen about the bluetooth connection the connection shows up as "poor" for the kaisers, excellent for the rest...)
It's hard to believe that I'm the only a-hole that has the Kaiser/Tilt and G37 combo out there... anyone else having the same problem or am I alone on this one?
Did you not read my post? I have a Tytn 2 and a 2007 G35 sedan with the exact same problems as you.. Just use the Talk button on your phone to receive calls..
Arent you on G35drivers.com?
marsb007 said:
could be the car, but more than likely it's not... here's why:
I have successfully paired and used 2 tytn, 2 8125 (Wizard), and 1 ol' school SMT5600. All worked fine without any crackling, or the other person on the other end not hearing me...
On the other hand, I have tried 2 Kaisers and both exhibit the exact same things...
(btw, in the info screen about the bluetooth connection the connection shows up as "poor" for the kaisers, excellent for the rest...)
It's hard to believe that I'm the only a-hole that has the Kaiser/Tilt and G37 combo out there... anyone else having the same problem or am I alone on this one?
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Tilt + my Mercedes work great.
Same problem w/ Tilt & G35x
Not that I'm glad anyone is having this problem but glad to see it isn't just me. I started with an unlocked imported TyTN (Hermes) phone that worked perfectly in my '07 G35x purchased in May. I never had one problem pairing in the car, receiving or making calls, using voice commands via the car or audio quality.
As soon as I purchased my Tilt I immediately had problems in the G35x but not with any other bluetooth device (I also have a Garmin c550 and pair and make / receive calls with it without any problems).
I can pair the Tilt with the car - no problem. I can use voice commands to make a call - no problem. As soon as the phone starts to ring through the car speakers I can tell there will be a problem because the ring is very 'tinny'. I can hear the person answer and speak but they cannot hear me at all. I then put Dutty's ROM on the phone thinking maybe it was a stack issue that might have been resolved in a new ROM (assuming their had been updates to the BT stack). That did not make any difference.
I will by tomorrow test my corporate Blackberry in the car again. I had used it in the car via bluetooth while I had the Hermes - no problem. I will retest now that the Tilt isn't working.
Have any of you contacted Infiniti and / or AT&T? I could only assume until they have a quantity of calls will they say anything other than "not our problem" or, "never heard of that before".
If there are others with this problem it would be good for them to acknowledge their experience here along with any comparative good/bad feedback with other phones in the same and different car / devices.
Update: I've just tested my Blackberry 8700 that worked prior to pairing the Tilt with the G35. I can confirm that the Blackberry still works flawlessly. As the Tilt also works flawlessly with my Garmin device I think the cause is unclear but would appear to be with the Tilt as it is the only thing that has changed in the tests I've identified above.
Regards,
David
minirx7 said:
Did you not read my post? I have a Tytn 2 and a 2007 G35 sedan with the exact same problems as you.. Just use the Talk button on your phone to receive calls..
Arent you on G35drivers.com?
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well, one of the ways I use the phone also is calling out... when I dial the number and call from the phone, the car bluetooth connects and the crackling starts... (i call my voicemail to test).
besides being an Infiniti/Nissan issue, it appears it is far more widespread... there's already a 20 page thread on BT and Kaiser! from that thread it appears HTC is aware of the issue and is working on an upgraded stack/rom... everyone cross your fingers and hope that one works!
Could you provide the link to that thread?
Thanks,
David
marsb007 said:
well, one of the ways I use the phone also is
calling out... when I dial the number and call from the phone, the car bluetooth connects and the crackling starts... (i call my voicemail to test).
besides being an Infiniti/Nissan issue, it appears it is far more widespread... there's already a 20 page thread on BT and Kaiser! from that thread it appears HTC is aware of the issue and is working on an upgraded stack/rom... everyone cross your fingers and hope that one works!
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SteinyD said:
Could you provide the link to that thread?
Thanks,
David
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here ya go... hope someone finds a fix soon...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=329270
Thanks .. I hope HTC truly has acknowledged the issue and is working on it. I sent an email tonight to HTC America and hope to get a favorable response soon.
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here ya go... hope someone finds a fix soon...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=329270
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Multiple solutions...
I'm using Dutty's TouchFlo Final Rom and I'm not having any problems with my 2006 M. So maybe you can try that ROM.
But on the M, I did have horrible problems with my E-Ten M500+ (continous feedback...C R A Z Y), and limited functionalities with my 3125. Both of those problems were solved instantly with this software: http://www.jetwaremobile.com/ They offer 30 day trial of their software, so try it.
marsb007 said:
well, one of the ways I use the phone also is calling out... when I dial the number and call from the phone, the car bluetooth connects and the crackling starts... (i call my voicemail to test).
besides being an Infiniti/Nissan issue, it appears it is far more widespread... there's already a 20 page thread on BT and Kaiser! from that thread it appears HTC is aware of the issue and is working on an upgraded stack/rom... everyone cross your fingers and hope that one works!
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I do not have this issue with my g35... I do not get any crackling.. Its only when i try to receive calls, it delays like 10-15 seconds!!!
Making calls is NON-issue...
it really is crazy... I've tried that particular rom and it has the exact same problem. I have also tried the Jetware bluetooth stack, and once again, it does the same thing. I've tried about 5-6 different roms, from super clean roms, bigstorage, to the latest build numbers that I could find, and all do the exact same thing. I've played around with the bitpool settings, audiogateway settings, and nothing...
It may be that the combination of the G37 + Tilt just has something in there that makes it go crazy. Could be the car, but as I've said earlier, all other phones work, including the Hermes, without any problems whatsoever.
Anyone out there with a G37 willing to give the Tilt a try? I'm about to go to the dealer and pair it with other cars to see if it works!
If you have the G37 (coupe I guess?) then you have the 2008, right? I know they switched to the new hard drive based system. So maybe they don't have all the bugs worked out. Top it all off, MS's bluetooth stack is kinda shaky, so it might be amplifying the problem.
I don't see any service bulletins relating to this issue on your car either: http://x.infinitihelp.com/forum/local_links.php?catid=86 I doubt that Voice Recog system update will fix your bluetooth issues...but then it might. Worth a try.
marsb007 said:
it really is crazy... I've tried that particular rom and it has the exact same problem. I have also tried the Jetware bluetooth stack, and once again, it does the same thing. I've tried about 5-6 different roms, from super clean roms, bigstorage, to the latest build numbers that I could find, and all do the exact same thing. I've played around with the bitpool settings, audiogateway settings, and nothing...
It may be that the combination of the G37 + Tilt just has something in there that makes it go crazy. Could be the car, but as I've said earlier, all other phones work, including the Hermes, without any problems whatsoever.
Anyone out there with a G37 willing to give the Tilt a try? I'm about to go to the dealer and pair it with other cars to see if it works!
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I'm having a problem with the bluetooth on the HTC with the bmw car kit (E46, 2004). It auto connects fine every time, but I can only make or receive 1 call. After that call has ended, it still claims it is connected - I can browse the phone book, but when the next call comes in it will ring through the car kit, but as soon as I answer it the audio comes out of the phone, not the car kit. The same happens if I initiate the call instead of receive.
It's not the car kit, it has worked flawlessly with previous phones (Sendo, N80) I just have a problem with this one. It happened with the stock rom (voda UK), and all versions of Dutty's.
Anyone any ideas?
Have you tried flashing a different radio?
I also had a weird BT problem and flashing a new radio helped.
Hi
How are you answering the incoming call?
My boss has a similar car to yours with BMW proffesional bluetooth and is running an HTC S710 which works perfectly.
I have found the although you are connected to handsfree if you answer the call on the handset and not via the bluetoooth controls then it will push the audio through the handset not the handsfree.
therefore are you answering the 2nd or 3rd incoming call on the handset or the handsfree?
I might be able to test my vodafone v1615 on this car kit during the week.
Tom
Hello,
I also have a BMW X3 E86 from 2004 with a BMW Bluetooth Kit ( I believe is the some as yours... ) and my Kaiser works great without any problems.
My Kaiser Radio version is: 1.27.12.11
I hope this can help you troubleshooting your problem!
pt_t830
well i have a Z4 ´06 and all work fine...to be honest i haven`t try it after last BMW nav (Professional) upgrade to V.29 but before this all was OK...Otherwise there was no possimility to use it with a new N or E Nokia
Bluetooth BMW
Try Jetware handsfree extension, works on BMW X3 and HTC Kaiser
12/19/2007
Bluetooth Hot Fix (for HTC TyTN II)
Dropped calls sometimes occur when Bluetooth is on. If you encountered the same problem, please download this Bluetooth Hot Fix and install it on your device.
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This is from HTC's website... I hope it will fix your problem
Thanks for the hotfix link, unfortunately I forgot to mention I had already tried it and it didn't work.
I have radio version 1.27.21.11, same as you pt_t830.
I'll try that Jetware handsfree extension..
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Hi
How are you answering the incoming call?
Tom
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I have tried it both ways, but it makes no difference whether it is answered via the button on the steering wheel, the centre console or the phone - the audio will always come out the phone, not the car kit on the 2nd call. It does turn off the audio on the radio though, and it always rings through the car kit.
Even if the call is initiated from the car kit by browsing the phone book and dialling, no sound will come out the car kit - and then I realise it has already rung but the ringing tone has come out the phone and the other person has answered!
I had similar problems on my E46 M3. I have put jetware on and it's perfect now. I even get a mail indicator on the sat nav when I receive an SMS, never got that before!
Anyone else got this issue and is there a new bluetooth stack or something to resolve it?
When I click the answer button on any bluetooth headset (currently using the iqua solar powered one), the sound is temporarily diverted to by mobile before the bluetooth properly picks up, and also during that slugging moment, any ringtone playing is diverted to the caller's earpiece (i.e. sent out by my mic).
One caller complained it had nearly deafened them.
Anyone able to help?
Having the same issue with my parrot bluetooth and my Tilt
Can someone purrlleeeease help with this issue? I am now scared to answer any calls, lest I get shouted at with, "GOD WHAT WAS THAT NOISE? IT NEARLY DEAFENED ME!"
You really haven't give a lot of info here.
I mean what Rom are you running, what BT hardware and reg tweaks do your use etc.
Info is required to be of any assistance.
Note my signature shows exactly what Rom(s) I'm currently using.
Many thanks. Here are my versions:
HTC TyTN II
ROM: 1.0 Sleuth
ROM date: 08/28/07
Radio version: 1.27.12.11
Protocol version: 22.45.88.07H
Essentially I think a new Bluetooth stack might solve it, but I really wish to avoid losing all data by flashing a new ROM altogether.
A new Bluetooth stack on its own would be wonderful... or a way to restore my data back to a newer ROM. Would Sprite Backup do that if I use Sleuth's WM6.1 ROM?
CJSnet said:
Would Sprite Backup do that if I use Sleuth's WM6.1 ROM?
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I know the commercial version is supposed to support "Rom Upgrade" support but I'm not sure if that is in the version that is floating around the forums.
What you can do though is make a backup prior to upgrading.
Then upgrade to test if the problem is fixed in one of WM6.1 roms.
Then downgrade and restore your back-up.
Now you will know if there is even a point to expending the effort of trying to extract the BT Stack.
Don't take offense at this next statement but if you put forth that effort it might endear someone more skilled to your cause as you've provided a "Proof of Concept" so to speak.
Okay I have just upgraded to Sleuth's v3 (WM6.1). Sadly the bluetooth issue remains, despite the new Radio version.
If someone calls, and I answer using the bluetooth headset, for 1 second their audio is output to the speaker of the Kaiser. I believe it is during that second that they also hear the end of the ring tone, which is what deafens them.
An unsatisfactory workaround is to use a quite ringtone or vibrate only, but that is hardly ideal. If anyone knows of any other solution or a bluetooth stack that is a bit snappier when answering via headset, it would be great appreciated
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Okay I have just upgraded to Sleuth's v3 (WM6.1). Sadly the bluetooth issue remains, despite the new Radio version.
If someone calls, and I answer using the bluetooth headset, for 1 second their audio is output to the speaker of the Kaiser. I believe it is during that second that they also hear the end of the ring tone, which is what deafens them.
An unsatisfactory workaround is to use a quite ringtone or vibrate only, but that is hardly ideal. If anyone knows of any other solution or a bluetooth stack that is a bit snappier when answering via headset, it would be great appreciated
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Same issue here with the same new ROM.
I'm having the same problem. When I push the button on my BT HF it gives a horrible noise to the caller at the other end for a second. In my case I doubt it is ring tone, it doesn't sound anythin like the tone I'm using, it's just like loud crackling or smth.
I can't give you any version numbers cause by TyTN II is sent off to warranty (3rd time already). This time it stopped accepting and making calls while showing 3G symbol. Previously I had band selection on auto and had no problems. Now even after hard reset no calls could be made so off it went again. The first two faults where the speaker and the "Fn" light.
I am having the same problem, the handet is at HTC's repair facility for this and a few nagging issues. I will report what they find.
Mine isn't so much the ringtone it just sounds like a loud static sound. I thought it was the headset but I tried it with 3 different headsets and the Bluethooth in my car and they all have the same problem.
Got my phone back today and I can't say I'm impressed with HTC. First they requested that I send it in the original box then must have thrown it out and sent it in some crap box without enough padding. They didn't even send a note or invoice saying what had been done, which was nothing.
They claim they couldn't find anything wrong and when I called support the guy thought it a joke.
Needless to say it is still deafening and I am pissed.
Same Issue Here... It is almost as if there is a dely in cutting off the WAV/WMA file. Bluetooth Picks up and and both parties get the end of the ring tone.
Had the issued with the origional AT&T rom
Have the issue with Slueth 3.0 and Alex 5.2
If anyone finds a fix please let me know...
I am using PhoneAlarm - Don't know if that is related.
I've had the same complaints from some of my callers, and try to answer between rings as much as possible. The complaints have gone way down. Of course, we shouldn't have to jump thru hoops to answer our phones!
Does anyone have contact info to point HTC to this worrying thread? We need a patch release ASAP. A phone that can't answer calls properly? Yikes.
No issues with my BlueAnt Z9. Have you guys tried different headsets?
I think you may have just been lucky. It is uncommon to A) answer during the ringtone, and B) have the caller complain about the loud noise.
It happens on my Bluetooth earpiece, and Nokia car kit, and JVC car kit. So, it is for HTC to resolve.
I've tried three headsets and it happens on all of them. It happens even when I have the phone on vibrate.
I spent an hour on the phone with HTC support and they are awful, even after telling her that it happens on three different headsets she says that is sounds like a headset issue not an issue with the phone.
When I explained for the third time that I would agree if it happend with one headset but since it happens with all of the headsets it would support my arguement that it is an issue with the phone.
It was like talking to a wall. I wish I had an alternitive to HTC at this point, I love their design and have never had a problem with any of their other phones but this their lack of support is amazing.
I think its with all HTC phones. Happened with my Dash - Wing and now Tilt.
But I've never had anyone complain about hearing music on their end...I can just hear it on my headset for about 1 sec. I've also had my SMS tone play wile on a call and also my VM tone play while on a call and I've asked them if they heard that and they said no.
I also only use noise cancelling headsets.
VooDoo1 said:
I think its with all HTC phones. Happened with my Dash - Wing and now Tilt.
But I've never had anyone complain about hearing music on their end...I can just hear it on my headset for about 1 sec. I've also had my SMS tone play wile on a call and also my VM tone play while on a call and I've asked them if they heard that and they said no.
I also only use noise cancelling headsets.
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I've never had a problem with any other handset, I've had a Qtek 9100, MDA, O2 Exec, Wing and a Dash.... crap I spent a lot on phones. The only one I've had problems with is the TyTNII.
Same problem here. And sometimes the speaker will very briefly go into speaker mode as I answer! Not good.
Hi,
When my phone is connected to my car kit (Opel/Vauxhaul UHP) bluetooth sometimes stops randomly. I can turn bluetooth on again with the commmanager and everything is working again. But it can hapen again after a few minutes.
Does anyone have this problem to or even better a solution?
I allready tried all the different Radio Roms, but this didn't solve my problem.
Well with mine i have some hickus but it just happpends once a while.
Most irritating about Diamond and BT in my opinion is that wa have no equalizing for it. and the sound setup from the begining is horrible.
Asked here if anyone has a solution before but none replied.
But as far 2 your problem no. And i use a Pioneer system in my car.
Mauser.NET said:
Hi,
When my phone is connected to my car kit (Opel/Vauxhaul UHP) bluetooth sometimes stops randomly. I can turn bluetooth on again with the commmanager and everything is working again. But it can hapen again after a few minutes.
Does anyone have this problem to or even better a solution?
I allready tried all the different Radio Roms, but this didn't solve my problem.
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HI
Same was happend with me (Opel), when my battery is low.
orsiga said:
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Same was happend with me (Opel), when my battery is low.
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Mine is not low on battery, but I shall try it once connected to the cigarette lighter.
Nobody else has this kind of problems??
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Mine is not low on battery, but I shall try it once connected to the cigarette lighter.
Nobody else has this kind of problems??
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I've a JVC head and my bluetooth has no problem.
I have a Honda Accord with handsfree built in and I too am having problems. The phone and car both agree that a connection has been made but when i use it to either ring out or receive a call the radio mutes and when receiving the ringing tone sounds over the car speakers but I can`t hear the caller except on the phone which isn`t very useful. Would a ROM or radio upgrade help or is it just a compatibility problem
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I have a Honda Accord with handsfree built in and I too am having problems. The phone and car both agree that a connection has been made but when i use it to either ring out or receive a call the radio mutes and when receiving the ringing tone sounds over the car speakers but I can`t hear the caller except on the phone which isn`t very useful. Would a ROM or radio upgrade help or is it just a compatibility problem
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I had this kind of problems also. Also syncing the phonebook gave me problems. You could try JETware, this solved almost all my problems, except now the bluetooth crashes
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I had this kind of problems also. Also syncing the phonebook gave me problems. You could try JETware, this solved almost all my problems, except now the bluetooth crashes
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Thanks Mauser. I tried Jetware as you suggest and I`m afraid it didn`t help in fact I think it crashed the handsfree system in the car like you. This is the final nail in the coffin for my Diamond. I just can`t get used to it so it`s off to Ebay with it.
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Thanks Mauser. I tried Jetware as you suggest and I`m afraid it didn`t help in fact I think it crashed the handsfree system in the car like you. This is the final nail in the coffin for my Diamond. I just can`t get used to it so it`s off to Ebay with it.
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I'm sorry to hear that
I am very pleased with my Diamond... I would sooner put my car on eBay than my Diamond
Did you try to check almost everything on in the advanced settings of Jetware? I have also limited the phonebook sync to max 5 entries to debug and on the site of Jetware there wat a fix for Opel car kits.
Keeping my fingers crossed, but until now I haven't experienced any bluetooth crashes.
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I'm sorry to hear that
I am very pleased with my Diamond... I would sooner put my car on eBay than my Diamond
Did you try to check almost everything on in the advanced settings of Jetware? I have also limited the phonebook sync to max 5 entries to debug and on the site of Jetware there wat a fix for Opel car kits.
Keeping my fingers crossed, but until now I haven't experienced any bluetooth crashes.
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Thanks again Mauser. I tried various settings but without any success, I think the phone is just not compatible with the Honda. Having said that I don`t have much luck with bluetooth at all on the phone. More often than not It just won`t detect other bluetooth devices and when it does it won`t send or receive files so it`s time for it to go and I can go back to a trusty Nokia
Problems here with BT connection to car kit, too. I'm using the built-in car-kit of an Audi A4 (standard one not that with navigation, remote SIM, etc). I've noticed the following issues:
- when I try to make a call, the CD is cut off but NOTHING is heard in the car speakers UNTIL the other party answers the call (and then I start the conversation). No ringing tone, no nothing. I cannot hear the busy tone, or network failure/congestion tone and this is annoying since I have to keep an eye on the phone to see what's happening. I found myself checking the phone when, after calling someone, nothing happened and in fact I got a busy tone and the call ended.
- sometimes, when I receive a call, the CD stops playing but when I answer nothing is heard from the car speakers but only from the phone (as davemazo said also).
- when I receive a call, I hear in the car speakers a "standard" calling tone, not the ringtone I have assigned for that contact
I have to mention that with any Nokia I had before (and still have one as a second phone), these problems do not exist. I know there is a compatibility between Audi factory installed car-kits and Nokia, but BT is a standard and most of the functions should be supported despite the phone model/type. I've tried also with an iPhone and it's working great, as my Nokia do. I don't understand why it is like this with the Diamond. In fact, I think it is not related to Diamond itself...it's doing like this with ANY Windows Mobile device I've tried in the past (Orange C600, Samsung I600).
Are there any solutions for this? A CAB, a new BT radio, a software, anything?... I don't want to buy a new BT car-kit and try with different models until I find something compatible
Thank you for any info/tip
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Problems here with BT connection to car kit, too. I'm using the built-in car-kit of an Audi A4 (standard one not that with navigation, remote SIM, etc). I've noticed the following issues:
- when I try to make a call, the CD is cut off but NOTHING is heard in the car speakers UNTIL the other party answers the call (and then I start the conversation). No ringing tone, no nothing. I cannot hear the busy tone, or network failure/congestion tone and this is annoying since I have to keep an eye on the phone to see what's happening. I found myself checking the phone when, after calling someone, nothing happened and in fact I got a busy tone and the call ended.
- sometimes, when I receive a call, the CD stops playing but when I answer nothing is heard from the car speakers but only from the phone (as davemazo said also).
- when I receive a call, I hear in the car speakers a "standard" calling tone, not the ringtone I have assigned for that contact
I have to mention that with any Nokia I had before (and still have one as a second phone), these problems do not exist. I know there is a compatibility between Audi factory installed car-kits and Nokia, but BT is a standard and most of the functions should be supported despite the phone model/type. I've tried also with an iPhone and it's working great, as my Nokia do. I don't understand why it is like this with the Diamond. In fact, I think it is not related to Diamond itself...it's doing like this with ANY Windows Mobile device I've tried in the past (Orange C600, Samsung I600).
Are there any solutions for this? A CAB, a new BT radio, a software, anything?... I don't want to buy a new BT car-kit and try with different models until I find something compatible
Thank you for any info/tip
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Hi Rapier,
I also had a SPV C500, MDA Compact, Qtek 8500, Samsung I600, HTC Touch Dual and now the Diamond. The only one which gave me no troubles was the SPV C500, but I think that was because this phone didn't support phonebook synchronization and had no network identification/signal strength over bluetooth.
After the SPV C500 it went wrong. First I noticed that after a hard reset it worked for a few days. Later (about 2 years later ) I found out that it was because the call history was going to long to sync over bluetooth.
Then I found Jetware in which you can limit syncing to any number of items. They even had a fix for the connection to my carkit.
Unit now... it works like a charm... but keep my fingers crossed
I don't know if your carkit is a Audi UHV, but I saw that they had a fix for that too! You have to just install Jetware and then run the fix-file from your phone. Good luck!!
P.S. I am in no kind related to Jetware, I just found out that it worked for me.
Yes, I have an Audi UHV 6634. Thank you for the info, I'll try that and post the results here. Though, my car-kit is not the advanced one and I don't have to sync anything with it (contacts or something else). It's most working as a plain hands-free device, no extra functions...speaking of which, I've noticed that on the phone is detected as "hands-free"...why not "car-kit" as I know a car-kit has other functionality as well? This is the "standard" BT device for any audio enhancements (even if it is a car-kit not a BT headset), or I have to activate something to be recognized as car-kit?
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Jetware? I have also limited the phonebook sync to max 5 entries to debug
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my Honda system doesn`t read the sim I can only dial out via handsfree using contacts i`ve entered into the Honda system otherwise I either have to read the number to the system and it will ring out (most of the time anyway) or make the call on the phone (illegally obviously) cancel the call and then say "redial" and the system makes the call. So uless I`m misunderstanding this setting I don`t think it will help me.
I`ve searched the Jetware website and I couldn`t find a fix for my Honda
UPDATE: So...I've downloaded it, install it on my Diamond (including the extension file for Audi UHV) and...no change. Everything as before with both issues. Disappointed, I've uninstalled Jetware then...surprise. AFTER uninstall, I can now hear through my car's speakers the ID ringtone Maybe some BT settings were altered and remained like this after uninstall, but I don't know why it didn't work when Jetware WAS installed...strange.
Anyway, many thanks...at least half of the problems are now solved and this only by install/uninstall a program...that's cool. I must now find a way to make the car kit ring when I make a call, this is still an issue.
P.S. I've seen that Diamond support Headset and Handsfree profiles...and when connected to my car kit is set as Handsfree. I suppose this is better than Headset...but still no ring out tone.
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UPDATE: So...I've downloaded it, install it on my Diamond (including the extension file for Audi UHV) and...no change. Everything as before with both issues. Disappointed, I've uninstalled Jetware then...surprise. AFTER uninstall, I can now hear through my car's speakers the ID ringtone Maybe some BT settings were altered and remained like this after uninstall, but I don't know why it didn't work when Jetware WAS installed...strange.
Anyway, many thanks...at least half of the problems are now solved and this only by install/uninstall a program...that's cool. I must now find a way to make the car kit ring when I make a call, this is still an issue.
P.S. I've seen that Diamond support Headset and Handsfree profiles...and when connected to my car kit is set as Handsfree. I suppose this is better than Headset...but still no ring out tone.
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No thanx! I'm glad I could help
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Hi Rapier,
I also had a SPV C500, MDA Compact, Qtek 8500, Samsung I600, HTC Touch Dual and now the Diamond. The only one which gave me no troubles was the SPV C500, but I think that was because this phone didn't support phonebook synchronization and had no network identification/signal strength over bluetooth.
After the SPV C500 it went wrong. First I noticed that after a hard reset it worked for a few days. Later (about 2 years later ) I found out that it was because the call history was going to long to sync over bluetooth.
Then I found Jetware in which you can limit syncing to any number of items. They even had a fix for the connection to my carkit.
Unit now... it works like a charm... but keep my fingers crossed
I don't know if your carkit is a Audi UHV, but I saw that they had a fix for that too! You have to just install Jetware and then run the fix-file from your phone. Good luck!!
P.S. I am in no kind related to Jetware, I just found out that it worked for me.
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Hello,
I have a Mercedes car kit and facing the same issue as you: everything works perfectly for a few days when hard-resetting my device, even with my 500+ contacts (they are loaded in less than a minute), but after a few days/weeks I can't get to have my call history or contacts displayed in less than half an hour!
Yesterday I thought I'd just hard reset my device because I had this problem again, but unfortunately it didn't work!
Guess what I have done differently this time: yes, I backed up and restored my call history, which I hadn't done the previous times! So I guess it is indeed related to the call history, but I can't test for now!
I have installed JetWare and limited the call history to 5 numbers, I'll try this tonight and I'll keep you informed...
Hello,
So I have tested this yesterday (installed Jetware and limited the call history to 5 numbers), and now it works FLAWLESSLY! I can browse through my 500 contacts instantaneously when I pair my phone with my Mercedes car kit.
So, in my case it was also clearly the CALL HISTORY that was causing problems... A BIG BIG thanks to Mauser for pointing out this!
I'm also having problem connecting my Diamond to my Volvo S80. All the other functions work except that I could not hear the other party through my car stereo and I also could not diconnect the call with my car end key.
I'll try the Jetware and I'll report back later. Thanks for the pointer.
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A BIG BIG thanks to Mauser for pointing out this!
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No thanx! ... glad I could help