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I just spoke to a very very knowledgable representative from TMobile USA maybe 10 minutes ago.
I first started asking about the TMobile MDA Vario III (or to most known, the Kaiser... i believe at least). After talking a little we got into quite a deep conversation, the first person from first tier support that wasnt an idiot WOW!
He informed me that he had heard that TMobile USA had purchaced the 1700mhz band for their new 3g network. That we would definately here more about the network this year but that they are waiting (to many stupid US laws...) for all current users to vacate this newly purchaces band.
Also he then informed me that anyone that would be either buying a Kaiser from Europe unlocked, or buying an AT&T 8925 (Kaiser) then getting it unlocked would have the likelihood of not having the full potential of their 3g netword on their phone. Also stated that when 1700 does become purchased and person currently owning the tmobile mda or the new tmobile wing would not be able to use the 3g networks.
Next he told me about how an htc rep had come into the office not to long ago and talked to him about their (htcs) phones. The htc rep informed him that they are currently working on a very very quick phone for TMobile USA, im guessing it is some sort of branch off from the Kaiser, but he had no information exactly about that.
I also asked him about the pricing of the monthly data connection. He said, "well all i know from experience is that when TMobile went from normal data speeds to the EDGE towers, the monthly price stayed the same."
Trying to think about what else.... hmmm. I'm guessing that is it, ask question if you can think about anything else... we talked on the phone for seriously 20-25 minutes... how blackberrys suck, how iphones are overated and only for fad following cheerleaders lol, just everything.
TMO is in big mess because governmental agencies are refusing to vacate the 1700MHz as quick as TMO wants ( Homeland security ). their 3G network will be delayed and their GSM net will suffer because they lack the spectrum. Their 3G testing in NJ/NY was halted because of inteference!!
Mog said:
I just spoke to a very very knowledgable representative from TMobile USA maybe 10 minutes ago.
I first started asking about the TMobile MDA Vario III (or to most known, the Kaiser... i believe at least). After talking a little we got into quite a deep conversation, the first person from first tier support that wasnt an idiot WOW!
He informed me that he had heard that TMobile USA had purchaced the 1700mhz band for their new 3g network. That we would definately here more about the network this year but that they are waiting (to many stupid US laws...) for all current users to vacate this newly purchaces band.
Also he then informed me that anyone that would be either buying a Kaiser from Europe unlocked, or buying an AT&T 8925 (Kaiser) then getting it unlocked would have the likelihood of not having the full potential of their 3g netword on their phone. Also stated that when 1700 does become purchased and person currently owning the tmobile mda or the new tmobile wing would not be able to use the 3g networks.
Next he told me about how an htc rep had come into the office not to long ago and talked to him about their (htcs) phones. The htc rep informed him that they are currently working on a very very quick phone for TMobile USA, im guessing it is some sort of branch off from the Kaiser, but he had no information exactly about that.
I also asked him about the pricing of the monthly data connection. He said, "well all i know from experience is that when TMobile went from normal data speeds to the EDGE towers, the monthly price stayed the same."
Trying to think about what else.... hmmm. I'm guessing that is it, ask question if you can think about anything else... we talked on the phone for seriously 20-25 minutes... how blackberrys suck, how iphones are overated and only for fad following cheerleaders lol, just everything.
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MDA and WING are not 3G phones. 1700 was won in a bidding about year and half ago.
yozh said:
MDA and WING are not 3G phones. 1700 was won in a bidding about year and half ago.
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correct it was won a year and a half ago. but there is some governmental law that says each user has 10 years to vacate that band 1700. its just a matter of time before tmobile starts paying people to get off their newly purchased network.
also about the comment of the mda and the wing... yes I know that they are not 3g compatable but I think there are quite a few 8525 unlocked tmobile users on this site like me. and I think there are quite a few that have tmobile that will be buying a phone (kaiser) soon that will cost a couple hundred dollars. I'm just here to warn them... this new phone may not even be able to work on the soon to be 3g network. just don't want people to waste their money.
Mog said:
this new phone may not even be able to work on the soon to be 3g network. just don't want people to waste their money.
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I can kinda attest to that myself...
A few years ago I purchased the wonderful Moto V525 unlocked and Voda branded. Popped in my Tmobile SIM and worked like a charm, with the exception of downloads. While on a tmobile branded V300 the same download would take say 30 seconds, in mine, by then unbranded and flashed a million times, would take maybe 20-30 seconds longer.
Granted, this is no indication of anything... I have a Tmobile branded Wizard that has been flashed to death with all kinds of home cooked releases and the EDGE speeds I get are just fine.
austin_boy said:
TMO is in big mess because governmental agencies are refusing to vacate the 1700MHz as quick as TMO wants ( Homeland security ). their 3G network will be delayed and their GSM net will suffer because they lack the spectrum. Their 3G testing in NJ/NY was halted because of inteference!!
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What an F..ing crock!
One government agency sells the spectrum, FCC and another will not vacate the freqs!? Yeeeeeeeesh!
haha yea... ditto
mmeyer4663 said:
What an F..ing crock!
One government agency sells the spectrum, FCC and another will not vacate the freqs!? Yeeeeeeeesh!
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yea bush admin are being assholes... crap... can we cuss in this forum? i forget...
but eh, its pretty stupid to me, the government themselves have the rules that current band users have 10 years, of course they are gonna leech on it as long as they can, or at least until this war is over... who am i kidding this war wont end til hes out of office lol.
lmfao look i found the count down, when tmobile will have full rights to their new band. HAHAHA!
http://www.howlonguntilbushisgone.com/
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yea bush admin are being assholes... crap... can we cuss in this forum? i forget...
but eh, its pretty stupid to me, the government themselves have the rules that current band users have 10 years, of course they are gonna leech on it as long as they can, or at least until this war is over... who am i kidding this war wont end til hes out of office lol.
lmfao look i found the count down, when tmobile will have full rights to their new band. HAHAHA!
http://www.howlonguntilbushisgone.com/
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Yeah. Sorry about my tantrum.
I have to deal with the actions of the FCC all of the time. I work in the cableTV industry. Kevin Martin HATES us!
The FCC whines about monopolies, level playing field, innovation and all of the other FUN buzz words and then they pull a major (*@#&(*&#@(*&$ like this!
Really gripes my cookies!
And to all of the folks out there that want to give th government more control over their lives so that they don't have to deal with the challenges, let this kind of mis-management of resources be a lesson.
Ok, off the soapbox and back to the technology!
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I just spoke to a very very knowledgable representative from TMobile USA maybe 10 minutes ago.
I first started asking about the TMobile MDA Vario III (or to most known, the Kaiser... i believe at least). After talking a little we got into quite a deep conversation, the first person from first tier support that wasnt an idiot WOW!
He informed me that he had heard that TMobile USA had purchaced the 1700mhz band for their new 3g network. That we would definately here more about the network this year but that they are waiting (to many stupid US laws...) for all current users to vacate this newly purchaces band.
Also he then informed me that anyone that would be either buying a Kaiser from Europe unlocked, or buying an AT&T 8925 (Kaiser) then getting it unlocked would have the likelihood of not having the full potential of their 3g netword on their phone. Also stated that when 1700 does become purchased and person currently owning the tmobile mda or the new tmobile wing would not be able to use the 3g networks.
Next he told me about how an htc rep had come into the office not to long ago and talked to him about their (htcs) phones. The htc rep informed him that they are currently working on a very very quick phone for TMobile USA, im guessing it is some sort of branch off from the Kaiser, but he had no information exactly about that.
I also asked him about the pricing of the monthly data connection. He said, "well all i know from experience is that when TMobile went from normal data speeds to the EDGE towers, the monthly price stayed the same."
Trying to think about what else.... hmmm. I'm guessing that is it, ask question if you can think about anything else... we talked on the phone for seriously 20-25 minutes... how blackberrys suck, how iphones are overated and only for fad following cheerleaders lol, just everything.
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this may not be right, but here on xda-developers, if you go to the htc titan section, they also refer it to the mogul, 6800, and vario III?
so the Vario III might not be the kaiser.
Totally incorrect
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Totally incorrect
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well i was just saying what i spoted here on the forum. should that be fixed then?
So any chance then that the Kaiser will support T-Mobile's [email protected]?
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correct it was won a year and a half ago. but there is some governmental law that says each user has 10 years to vacate that band 1700. its just a matter of time before tmobile starts paying people to get off their newly purchased network.
also about the comment of the mda and the wing... yes I know that they are not 3g compatable but I think there are quite a few 8525 unlocked tmobile users on this site like me. and I think there are quite a few that have tmobile that will be buying a phone (kaiser) soon that will cost a couple hundred dollars. I'm just here to warn them... this new phone may not even be able to work on the soon to be 3g network. just don't want people to waste their money.
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Mog,
Since you mentioned Tmobile and unlock 8525, I was wondering what WM6 ROMs (Cooked or HTC Released) is the most stable, compatible with this network. I too have an AT&T 8525, SuperCID / SIM unlock that I use for Tmobile (USA) network. But all the stuff that I have read in most threads are optimize for AT&T.
Some folks in the UK who are using Tmobile suggested to go with WM6 cooked ROMs. But I know their network and ours are quite different. At first I thought if I purchased a Tmobile UK phone (838 PRO) and have it unlock, then it will be optimized for Tmobile USA network. But I found out that they're entirely different from one another.
I just wanted to know your feedback as well as other Tmobile users out there who uses 8525 or similar phone, which WM6 ROM would be best for our situation. Any input or feedback is greatly appreciated. Thanks all
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Mog,
Since you mentioned Tmobile and unlock 8525, I was wondering what WM6 ROMs (Cooked or HTC Released) is the most stable, compatible with this network. I too have an AT&T 8525, SuperCID / SIM unlock that I use for Tmobile (USA) network. But all the stuff that I have read in most threads are optimize for AT&T.
Some folks in the UK who are using Tmobile suggested to go with WM6 cooked ROMs. But I know their network and ours are quite different. At first I thought if I purchased a Tmobile UK phone (838 PRO) and have it unlock, then it will be optimized for Tmobile USA network. But I found out that they're entirely different from one another.
I just wanted to know your feedback as well as other Tmobile users out there who uses 8525 or similar phone, which WM6 ROM would be best for our situation. Any input or feedback is greatly appreciated. Thanks all
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So any chance then that the Kaiser will support T-Mobile's [email protected]?
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Well go to the Hermes WM6 board, there was one just released on the 17th or 18th i believe. V3gp or something like that, I believe that would be the most stable because it is the closest thing we got to the WM6 8525 official ROM update. I myself am dealing with WM5 currently, I'll just wait for the official release which "should" be fairly soon.
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So any chance then that the Kaiser will support T-Mobile's [email protected]?
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I dont believe so, for hotspot at home to work you not only need the wifi capability you need some other program to be able to switch from wifi to normal satellite, but im not saying someone will re-release it themselves. We got alot of smart programmers on this website
6800/Mogul is a CDMA phone vs Kaiser a GSM phone.
Wow we got a bunch of idiots on this forum
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Some folks in the UK who are using Tmobile suggested to go with WM6 cooked ROMs. But I know their network and ours are quite different. At first I thought if I purchased a Tmobile UK phone (838 PRO) and have it unlock, then it will be optimized for Tmobile USA network. But I found out that they're entirely different from one another.
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Phones aren't "optimized" for any network, they either have the bands it needs or they do not.
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I dont believe so, for hotspot at home to work you not only need the wifi capability you need some other program to be able to switch from wifi to normal satellite, but im not saying someone will re-release it themselves. We got alot of smart programmers on this website
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Cell phones do not use satellite, they use radio towers
1700???
I'm pretty sure they pruchased the 2100mhz band that would support video
800mhz old skewl
850mhz old skewl
1800mhz Edge\GPRS
1900mhz Edge\GPRS
2100mhz 3G-Video
1900mhz 3G-HSDPA
1700mhz\2100mhz T-Mobile 3G-not sure if it is hsdpa
Not positive why the T-mob rep told ya 1700mhz cause they purchaes they also purchased 2100MHZ frequency.
sandrobber said:
I'm pretty sure they pruchased the 2100mhz band that would support video
800mhz old skewl
850mhz old skewl
1800mhz Edge\GPRS
1900mhz Edge\GPRS
2100mhz 3G-Video
1900mhz 3G-HSDPA
1700mhz\2100mhz T-Mobile 3G-not sure if it is hsdpa
Not positive why the T-mob rep told ya 1700mhz cause they purchaes they also purchased 2100MHZ frequency.
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Once again, incorrect information.
It doesn't matter the band, ANYTHING can be put on any band.
T-Mobile bought the 1700MHz band to put their 3G on.
They can offer 2-way video just like every other 3G carrier, or they could do like AT&T and offer 1-way or they could not offer video at all if they wanted.
Its up to them
This thread was started with incorrect information and continues to get posts as such. Since this is just confusing more people than helping, I'm closing the thread.
I am running Dutty's 6.1 Hybrid Rom and don't seem to be picking up the new 3G network in NYC.
I know in the UK there is a username and password. Does anyone know if that is the case in the US?
Also, I have the $5.99 plan, not the full blown $19.99 a month deal.....
Suggestions....
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Suggestions....
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Call T-mob tech support.
I just noticed that in the phone>settings>band that UMTS 1700 is not an option....
The phone's wiki says it supports it, is this a 'feature' in the Rom?
Kaiser doesn't support the US T-Mobile 3g band.
From the wiki
UMTS 1700 (Emobile-only)
What does Emobile-only mean?
T-Mobile US 3G uses AWS 1700, so you're out of luck on trying to get a kaiser to work on the newly launched T-Mobile 3G. As of this date, there are no smartphones released that will work on the T-Mobile US 3G.
Emobile is (I believe) a Japanese carrier.
ok first i think AT&T users have an issue with T-Mobile users cuz T-Mobile provides 3G on the 2100 band.
Second there was a claim in this forum somewhere that he was getting 3G signal on T-Mobile in Boston.
T-Mobile users if you get 3G connection please talk. AT&T users without T-Mobile service shush.
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ok first i think AT&T users have an issue with T-Mobile users cuz T-Mobile provides 3G on the 2100 band.
Second there was a claim in this forum somewhere that he was getting 3G signal on T-Mobile in Boston.
T-Mobile users if you get 3G connection please talk. AT&T users without T-Mobile service shush.
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Why would AT&T users have an issue if T-Mobile users are able to utilize 3g or not?
sangwich said:
ok first i think AT&T users have an issue with T-Mobile users cuz T-Mobile provides 3G on the 2100 band.
Second there was a claim in this forum somewhere that he was getting 3G signal on T-Mobile in Boston.
T-Mobile users if you get 3G connection please talk. AT&T users without T-Mobile service shush.
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This attitude will get you nowhere other than ignored. Don't make the assumption that just because someone uses AT&T, they are automatically wrong when it comes to other networks.
Anyone with real intelligence would just go to a T-Mobile store in NYC, find a phone that supports 3G, and look at the Band settings page to see which frequency it is running on.
As for the 3G guy in Boston, it is quite possible that a hiccup in the network caused him to jump on to an AT&T tower momentarily.
I think the At&t, lack of 3G issue is related to iPhones, regardless it is silly.
If anything people should argue the cost and terms of their contracts (in the US anyway.)
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This attitude will get you nowhere other than ignored. Don't make the assumption that just because someone uses AT&T, they are automatically wrong when it comes to other networks.
Anyone with real intelligence would just go to a T-Mobile store in NYC, find a phone that supports 3G, and look at the Band settings page to see which frequency it is running on.
As for the 3G guy in Boston, it is quite possible that a hiccup in the network caused him to jump on to an AT&T tower momentarily.
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well i apologize if my comment offended you but you shouldn't assume that i assume that someone using AT&T service is automatically wrong.
If you're trying to say I have no real intelligence, every T-Mobile store I've seen in Queens and Manhattan has dummy phones on display. There is no way to check the settings myself. I can ask the salesman or call CS.
Anyways 3G on T-Mobile isn't just on 1700Mhz. Its also on 2100Mhz
you may be right that the dude in boston jump on to an AT&T tower for a while. but you can be wrong cuz you don't know the details to T-Mobile 3G service. or maybe he didn't have a tilt and had the kaiser/tynt II from europe.
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well i apologize if my comment offended you but you shouldn't assume that i assume that someone using AT&T service is automatically wrong.
If you're trying to say I have no real intelligence, every T-Mobile store I've seen in Queens and Manhattan has dummy phones on display. There is no way to check the settings myself. I can ask the salesman or call CS.
Anyways 3G on T-Mobile isn't just on 1700Mhz. Its also on 2100Mhz
you may be right that the dude in boston jump on to an AT&T tower for a while. but you can be wrong cuz you don't know the details to T-Mobile 3G service. or maybe he didn't have a tilt and had the kaiser/tynt II from europe.
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Right because the tytn II is a completely different device than the tilt...
You need to research how the signals operate and why it utilizes two frequencies and maybe, just maybe, you'll stop making an ass of yourself.
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Right because the tytn II is a completely different device than the tilt...
You need to research how the signals operate and why it utilizes two frequencies and maybe, just maybe, you'll stop making an ass of yourself.
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well someone else in the forum mentioned the euro version has different band settings with a different frequency that works with the US T-Mobile 3G network.
jesus you people are way too sensitive.
sangwich said:
well someone else in the forum mentioned the euro version has different band settings with a different frequency that works with the US T-Mobile 3G network.
jesus you people are way too sensitive.
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Maybe you're just way too dumb?
smh... im just repeating what other people say in this forum.
you just got too must estrogen running in your system.
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im just repeating what other people say in this forum.
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Ah, the "Oh, well, I heard it from so-and-so, which means it it ain't MY fault if I'm wrong" excuse.
edgie168 said:
Ah, the "Oh, well, I heard it from so-and-so, which means it it ain't MY fault if I'm wrong" excuse.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=389944 last post asshole.
So T-Mobile is such a ghetto-fabulous company that they don't even give you live demos to play with? I mean even Sprint, who Deutsche Telekom is considering buying, gives you live phones to play with.
I'm not sure why my post was deleted, but I'm the guy from boston that posted about my phone jumping to 3g. The reason I posted was because this past friday night(May 2nd 2008), at around 11:30pm, the icon on my phone jumped to 3g. Normally, this only happens for a second, then the carrier info will say AT&T 3G, then I get no service. However, this time, the icon said 3G, and my carrier info still said T-mobile. It stayed that way for about 45 minutes or so.
I'm using an unlocked at&t tilt and a WM6.1 Rom from xda (I don't remember which one, but it's very light - as in, light on crap and unused features)
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I'm not sure why my post was deleted, but I'm the guy from boston that posted about my phone jumping to 3g. The reason I posted was because this past friday night(May 2nd 2008), at around 11:30pm, the icon on my phone jumped to 3g. Normally, this only happens for a second, then the carrier info will say AT&T 3G, then I get no service. However, this time, the icon said 3G, and my carrier info still said T-mobile. It stayed that way for about 45 minutes or so.
I'm using an unlocked at&t tilt and a WM6.1 Rom from xda (I don't remember which one, but it's very light - as in, light on crap and unused features)
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So it would be safe to say your tilt jumped on TMO 3g 2100 freq. WOW!!!
is the tmoblie hd7 going to support HSPA+?
No.
HSDPA only. That goes up to 3.6 Mbps I believe.
the one i handled is faster than my hd2, so i say yes.
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the one i handled is faster than my hd2, so i say yes.
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The specs say no, sorry.
show me the specs...i played with one and it's faster than my hd2, and i'm in a h+ area.
from xda, both phones have the same specs, and the hd2 IS h+ compatible
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2059&c=t-mobile_htc_hd2_htc_leo
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2659&c=t-mobile_htc_hd7
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show me the specs...i played with one and it's faster than my hd2, and i'm in a h+ area.
from xda, both phones have the same specs, and the hd2 IS h+ compatible
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2059&c=t-mobile_htc_hd2_htc_leo
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2659&c=t-mobile_htc_hd7
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You say "faster", yet speed depends on the browser, etc. Unless you actually did a mobilespeedtest.net, the only "speed" you're feeling is the new WP7 browser.
Anyways, look at any of the specs, WireFly for example (http://www.wirefly.com/catalog/t-mobile/htc/hd7-black/)
"Data Download Speed - 3G/EDGE/UMTS/HSDPA/HSUPA"
Ta-Da, it's not a 3.5G phone!
i don't want an e-penis contest. when the op gets the phone, they'll see it can handle h+, why would t-mobile go thru all the trouble of updating their data speeds and then release a phone not capable of that ?
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i don't want an e-penis contest. when the op gets the phone, they'll see it can handle h+, why would t-mobile go thru all the trouble of updating their data speeds and then release a phone not capable of that ?
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It's important for the OP to know that it DOESN'T have H+. If he buys it under the impression that it does, he would be upset to find out that it doesn't. Only a few new phones like the myTouch 4G are getting H+
don't go anywhere, i'll show you something...
here is a list of t-mobile phones capable of h+ http://www.bgr.com/2010/06/16/t-mob...-covering-25-major-cities-100-by-end-of-year/. why would the new phone be different?
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here is a list of t-mobile phones capable of h+ http://www.bgr.com/2010/06/16/t-mob...-covering-25-major-cities-100-by-end-of-year/. why would the new phone be different?
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hahah according to that, my Touch Pro 2 has HSPA+. False!
So once again, the HD7 does NOT have HSPA+. It would be listed in the specs if it did.
i've shown you all kinds of specs, i don't know what else to say. hopefully, the op will see that they WILL get h+ with the hd7. have a good night . btw, it's not in the hd2 specs about h+, but i bet i have H+!
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i've shown you all kinds of specs, i don't know what else to say. hopefully, the op will see that they WILL get h+ with the hd7. have a good night . btw, it's not in the hd2 specs about h+, but i bet i have H+!
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Okay, the "specs" you showed were...
- It felt "faster" (it's a whole different operating system.... and you think your HD2 has H+ also, so it should be the same according to you)
- Your PDA DB links, which say that it DOESN'T have HSPA+, "Cellular-Data_Links: CSD, GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, HSDPA, HSUPA" for both the HD2 and the HD7
- A article that was already incorrect in stating that the Touch Pro 2 and HD2 have HSPA+.
According to the stores that actually SELL the HD7, it does NOT have HSPA+. Plain and simple.
lol, what i read is wrong, what you read is right. gotta love that! do you think the hd2 is capable of h+? but wait...it doesn't say that in the specs. now ask every t-mo hd2 on this site who lives in an h+ area if THEY have h+. see where i'm going...? then you said "oh wait, it SAYS my tp2 has it, but that can't be right, either." comical!
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lol, what i read is wrong, what you read is right. gotta love that! do you think the hd2 is capable of h+? but wait...it doesn't say that in the specs. now ask every t-mo hd2 on this site who lives in an h+ area if THEY have h+. see where i'm going...? then you said "oh wait, it SAYS my tp2 has it, but that can't be right, either." comical!
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Umm, how do you KNOW you have H+?
A little "H" on your status bar does not mean that it is HSPA+
And why wouldn't the specs say it if the phone actually has it? You're getting nowhere, you don't have PROOF. All you're basing your argument off of is how fast your internet FEELS.
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lol, what i read is wrong, what you read is right. gotta love that! do you think the hd2 is capable of h+? but wait...it doesn't say that in the specs. now ask every t-mo hd2 on this site who lives in an h+ area if THEY have h+. see where i'm going...? then you said "oh wait, it SAYS my tp2 has it, but that can't be right, either." comical!
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Here's a quote taken from one of the HD2 threads about HSPA+
sirphunkee said:
Actually I was digging on this a little more, and saw a thread on ppcgeeks about it that you had posted in lol.
Reading that and some others, it seems that there's a bit of confusion (I was too)...what Tmo has already enabled on the network now is HSPA 7.2, which is not exactly the same thing as the HSPA+ (theoretical limits over 54Mbps). HSPA+ is what's being tested and exists in a few cities now, more coming 2nd half of this year.
I've read confirmation that the HD2 is HSPA 7.2-capable, but I've found nowhere that says for sure that it's able to use HSPA+...lot's of speculation, no hard confirmation. I have however seen several indications that no phones in Tmo's current lineup have the HSPA+ secret sauce
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An "H" on your phone means that you're connected to a HSPA tower, not the PLUS. The difference between HSPA and HSPA+ is huge for data speeds, as he shows.
You're getting HSPA and HSPA+ confused.
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Here's a quote taken from one of the HD2 threads about HSPA+
An "H" on your phone means that you're connected to a HSPA tower, not the PLUS. The difference between HSPA and HSPA+ is huge for data speeds, as he shows.
You're getting HSPA and HSPA+ confused.
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This is correct I work for T-Mobile and this is not an HSPA+ Device
did you guys check the bgr link i gave? it says hd2 is capable of h+. i live in jacksonville, fl., which has h+. besides, this is about the hd7 having h+ , i posted the links to show that if hd2 is CAPABLE of h+, why wouldn't the hd7? but to clear up confusion, i have a guy from geeks that works for t-mobile, he's going to check tomorrow. i have a t-mo 5 mins. from where i live(where they have the hd7 already), i'm checking also. then we'll get this straight once and for all .
mr8820 said:
did you guys check the bgr link i gave? it says hd2 is capable of h+. i live in jacksonville, fl., which has h+. besides, this is about the hd7 having h+ , i posted the links to show that if hd2 is CAPABLE of h+, why wouldn't the hd7? but to clear up confusion, i have a guy from geeks that works for t-mobile, he's going to check tomorrow. i have a t-mo 5 mins. from where i live(where they have the hd7 already), i'm checking also. then we'll get this straight once and for all .
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LOL I again work for them and have played with it since 11-01 and I assure you this phone is not HSPA + / HSPA only
well, a man admits when he's wrong, and i was wrong about the hd7 http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones/htc-hd7-t-mobile/4505-6452_7-34195349.html#reviewPage1
I want an HD7 and wondered if any XDA-member could purchase one from o2 and i would pay them through PayPal and they could ship me the phone. I am in the US and on AT&T
Why don't you just go down to Walmart? They have them there already. Besides you'r on ATT and will get no 3g I thought with one from O2? I believe you need one from Telstra (Australian) network and your 3g will work.
kwill said:
Why don't you just go down to Walmart? They have them there already. Besides you'r on ATT and will get no 3g I thought with one from O2? I believe you need one from Telstra (Australian) network and your 3g will work.
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Okay, so anyone from Australia want to buy me an HD7 and I will send the money.
i think folks are too busy trying to make money lol
http://cgi.ebay.com/Brand-New-HTC-H...0493202894?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item43a2be81ce
mr8820 said:
i think folks are too busy trying to make money lol
http://cgi.ebay.com/Brand-New-HTC-H...0493202894?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item43a2be81ce
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Im talking about someone buying it and not trying to rape me for the phone. I went to Telestras website and they dont sell the hd7
good luck bro, i hope it works out for you . if you wanted one for t-mobile, i could get it tommorow.
mr8820 said:
good luck bro, i hope it works out for you . if you wanted one for t-mobile, i could get it tommorow.
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I see the rebel sim cards are being developed for wp7 so perhaps 3g is still in the game if i get a tmobile version. I s being on edge versus 3g really that big of a difference anyway?
oh yeah, it's like swimming in tar lol (edge).
Isn't the phone Quad Band? Surely the device will work on all of the GSM networks?
I hope it's that or it's going to be quite a mission finding the right device to work on the right networks int the right countries.
in the u.s., the only 2 big gsm carriers (at$t, t-mo) operate on different bands. the rest of the world is ok lol, the telstra(sp) operates on at$t w/ 3g, any one else on t-mo gets edge.
mr8820 said:
in the u.s., the only 2 big gsm carriers (at$t, t-mo) operate on different bands. the rest of the world is ok lol, the telstra(sp) operates on at$t w/ 3g, any one else on t-mo gets edge.
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Ah, ok
So would the T-Mobile HD7 work on standard GSM bands (900MHz and 1800MHz for South Africa)?
Is the Sprint HTC One going to be a world phone for both voice and data? I have looked high and large for this and frankly have heard differing opinions on this. Some notable sites say yes, some say no, so I have to admit that I'm confused. I would love to see a definitive answer if anyone knows.
And....what about the GS4 then, will this be US only like the GS3?
Thanks guys.
Have you been here: http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=4241&c=sprint_htc_one_lte_32gb_htc_m7
It may just be down to unlocking the SIM
esoh said:
Is the Sprint HTC One going to be a world phone for both voice and data? I have looked high and large for this and frankly have heard differing opinions on this. Some notable sites say yes, some say no, so I have to admit that I'm confused. I would love to see a definitive answer if anyone knows.
And....what about the GS4 then, will this be US only like the GS3?
Thanks guys.
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Nbonne said:
Have you been here: http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=4241&c=sprint_htc_one_lte_32gb_htc_m7
It may just be down to unlocking the SIM
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Accoriding to this from s4gru.com the FCC filing makes no mention of US GSM or WCDMA bands 850/1900. This is what it does say
In its press release earlier this week, Sprint calls its HTC One an "international" smartphone, and that could be interpreted to mean world roaming capabilities. The FCC authorization documents show no evidence of this, but they are not required to do so, since the FCC is a US authority. What is lacking, though, is any GSM 850/1900 or W-CDMA 850/1900. So, if the HTC One is world roaming capable, it will most likely be limited to GSM 900/1800 and band 1 W-CDMA 2100+1900.
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