At&t Tilt / wifi problem - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

Hey everyone!
I've just bought a new at&t tilt and determined a problem. I couldn't connect to the internet through neither my home wireless router (netgear), nor any free wireless routers in the apartment building were I live. I connected the tilt to my router, but I wasn't able to acess the internet. I tryed to change different setting but everything was unsuccessful. After I called to at&t( probably 10 times or more) I was told that I can use the wifi connection only within certain special at&t "hotspots". Is it true? Can I somehow remove this restriction?
Thanks,
Mike

frosted tourist said:
Hey everyone!
I've just bought a new at&t tilt and determined a problem. I couldn't connect to the internet through neither my home wireless router (netgear), nor any free wireless routers in the apartment building were I live. I connected the tilt to my router, but I wasn't able to acess the internet. I tryed to change different setting but everything was unsuccessful. After I called to at&t( probably 10 times or more) I was told that I can use the wifi connection only within certain special at&t "hotspots". Is it true? Can I somehow remove this restriction?
Thanks,
Mike
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Not true. You can use any wi-fi - just like your laptop (assuming it's unsecure or you have the security code). Is your wi-fi turned on via Comm Manager? Are you using the stock ROM or have you flashed a new one? Is your wi-fi set up correctly via Comm Manager (search for Comm Manager and WLAN setting on the forum).

frosted tourist said:
Hey everyone!
I've just bought a new at&t tilt and determined a problem. I couldn't connect to the internet through neither my home wireless router (netgear), nor any free wireless routers in the apartment building were I live. I connected the tilt to my router, but I wasn't able to acess the internet. I tryed to change different setting but everything was unsuccessful. After I called to at&t( probably 10 times or more) I was told that I can use the wifi connection only within certain special at&t "hotspots". Is it true? Can I somehow remove this restriction?
Thanks,
Mike
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I had the same problem when I got my tilt. After just fiddling around it started to work and I really didn't do much that would make a change.
Use the connection manager and try the wireless settings to make sure it sees your wireless networks.
Power it down and turn off the cell portion and just have wifi running.

I too am having problems with WIFI on my new Tilt at my home location. I have flashed the stock HTC rom (WWE rom: 1.56.405.5 / radio: 1.27.12.11) and everything on the device works perfectly. Even before that I had tried to connect using the AT&T rom, still no luck. I can get the WIFI to connect and stay active, but when I open up internet explorer or opera mini I cannot get any pages to download. I can get a connection from other places that have wifi, both secured and usecured networks and the Tilt's wifi works fine. I have other WIFI devices connected to my home wireless router and they work perfectly. I have tried playing with all the settings on the phone and even on the wireless router, still no luck.
Any help greatly appreciated.
Thanks

I just tried your suggestion about turning off the phone side of the Tilt, and having wifi running, still no luck.

You are not alone
I had the same problem as you. I tried different configs on my router. I could not even connect to other open wifi spots. I was finally able to connect after flashing to another rom with a different radio. I have tested about five roms so far. Wifi worked most of the time. I am using Dutty's 6.1 and it is working like a champ now. It seems as though many stock Tilts have that problem.

I may be wrong, but I think I remember reading somewhere that the rom and radio version do not really effect WIFI?

I got my WIFi working! First I updated the router through Netgear. Then I went to a friends house that uses a secured router as well. Then I slid the WIFI to 'best performance'. Then I successfully connected to internet at my friends house. Then I came back home, signed in to my secured router, and voila! It works like a charm now. Pretty fast too.

BiPolarXpress said:
I had the same problem as you. I tried different configs on my router. I could not even connect to other open wifi spots. I was finally able to connect after flashing to another rom with a different radio. I have tested about five roms so far. Wifi worked most of the time. I am using Dutty's 6.1 and it is working like a champ now. It seems as though many stock Tilts have that problem.
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what radio version do you have? i have unbranded version but i still having the same problem... br

My Fix
So I had the same problem. Could not connect to home network after ROM. Go to "wireless manager" at first the icon for wifi would not allow selection. I selected bluetooth, closed it, then wifi could be selected. then select settings in wireless manager, if your network is unsecure, just next, next, finish. I was then connected. hope this helps someone out.

I've had a few problems with wi-fi. I've seemed to narrow them down to using unsecure/secure networks. I've found that my Tilt doesn't like to play well with "B" unsecure. Tested this with an older D-link, and Linksys "B" router. Haven't really had any problems with "G" networks.
frosted tourist said:
Hey everyone!
I've just bought a new at&t tilt and determined a problem. I couldn't connect to the internet through neither my home wireless router (netgear), nor any free wireless routers in the apartment building were I live. I connected the tilt to my router, but I wasn't able to acess the internet. I tryed to change different setting but everything was unsuccessful. After I called to at&t( probably 10 times or more) I was told that I can use the wifi connection only within certain special at&t "hotspots". Is it true? Can I somehow remove this restriction?
Thanks,
Mike
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Wifi trouble with 2.17 ROM on Cingular 8125

I upgraded my Cingular 8125 last night with the excellent 2.17 rom provided by summiter. All was looking great until I tried to connect to my wireless network (Linksys WRT54GX4 SRX400 router with WPA-PSK security). I entered the key and it tried to connect, but then my wireless network switched from "Available" to "Unavailable" and dropped to the bottom of the network cards list. I could click on the network and tell it to reconnect, but it would do the same "available...unavailable" sequence every time. Wondering if it was a bad flash, I reapplied the 2.17 ROM and tried again with the same results. Not to give up too easily, I grabbed the 2.16 iMate ROM and applied it to see if the Cingular customizations could be causing the issue. Same problem.
So I disabled all security on my Linksys, cleared the net card settings on the 8125, and tried to reconnect. No luck. My neighbor has a plain Linksys WRT54G, so I tried to connect to hers and it worked just fine. At this point, I had to go back to the stock Cingular ROM because I need access to my wireless lan. All works well with the stock Cingular ROM.
Has anyone else seen this behavior with the 2.x ROMs? I'm wondering if there is a bug in the wireless networking support in the updated version of WM5 or if it is some weird incompatibility with the new Linksys WRT54GX4.
-BK
edit: corrected the router model number
At this point, I had to go back to the stock Cingular ROM because I need access to my wireless lan. All works well with the stock Cingular ROM.
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Hey, does this ROM upgrade allow you downgrade. i have read stuff on this forum with people saying that they get an error "upgrade only" if they try to downgrade.
Way to keep the same topic going...start your own thread. :roll:
Unfortunately I don't have any feedback or value to add. I've connected successfully to a WRT54G, a Belkin Pre-N, and a Belkin Pre-N running Linksys WRT54GX firmware. No problems, but then again I use only WEP (I'm not overly concerned about the security of the traffic on this particular network, hence I use WEP instead of better encryption).
It's odd that with all encryption turned off you still can't connect. You don't by chance use MAC address inclusion/exclusion do you?
Yes, I normally use MAC filtering along with WPA to only allow certain devices onto the wireless network, but I disabled the MAC filtering for the same test where I disabled the security. The stock ROM works with both WPA and MAC filtering enabled. It's quite a strange problem. I must say that I find myself wanting the features of the newer firmware so much that I'm considering just not using the wifi connection anymore...
Thanks for putting the work into packaging the new ROMs for us. Cingular sure does drag their feet releasing their own updates.
-BK
my Cingular works good with Netgear WGR614 v5 & Linksys WTR54G
I've had the same problem with the updated roms. I'm running a D-Link 614+ rev b router using MAC filtering and no encrypton. My 8125 sees the router but it can't connect. I adjusted mty power settings but still no luck. I think everyone who has this problem should list their gear here so we can figure out a way to get around this problem.
I had WPA issues connecting my 8125 with my linksys WRT54G.
I'm in the same position as summiter, I'm really not concerned about the security of my home network, so I went back to WEP - which works fine. A combination of not broadcasting the SSID, MAC filtering, and WEP seems secure enough for my purposes.
I had the same problem after I updated my 8125's ROM. After many minutes of frustration playing with settings, I unplugged the router for a couple of minutes, and then plugged it back in and my phone began to work just fine. You may want to give this a try.
CameronJ said:
I had WPA issues connecting my 8125 with my linksys WRT54G.
I'm in the same position as summiter, I'm really not concerned about the security of my home network, so I went back to WEP - which works fine. A combination of not broadcasting the SSID, MAC filtering, and WEP seems secure enough for my purposes.
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It's more a matter of security through obscurity, since there are tools to both find devices not broadcasting ssid, and for cracking the wep key in a matter of seconds or minutes. On the particular WiFi net I use I assume everyone can see it and don't use it for sensitive stuff. MAC filtering can be overcome, but it takes someone determined and knowledeable, and I don't think my neighbors or the casual wardriver fit that bill. =)
Hello All,
This sounds like their is some settongs on the phone are set wrong, try changing the select network setting on the top bar select the second set of settings witch are I belive my work network, then soft reset the phone it should work it did for me but not until the soft reset. you my want to setup the connection again and reset again after putting in the key. I do use the newest 2.17 rom as well seems to be good so far.
I also used this to trouble shoot it. http://www.htcamerica.net/support/cingular_8125.htm
great source of help.
I think it is definitely something with the 2.X ROM’s and this router. I have the same setup and can’t get anything but the original Cingular ROM to connect.
Using Summiters excellent 2.17 with WRT54G with no problems on QTEK 9100.
porky145 said:
I've had the same problem with the updated roms. I'm running a D-Link 614+ rev b router using MAC filtering and no encrypton. My 8125 sees the router but it can't connect. I adjusted mty power settings but still no luck. I think everyone who has this problem should list their gear here so we can figure out a way to get around this problem.
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summiter
I'm having the same issue, i'm acutally using the same router as the person above, it will see the router but wont connect unless i reset the router. Plus it wont connect to any hot spots that it used to when it was on the old OEM cingular rom, so it must be something with the new 2.17 Rom. Did you make any changes in the WiFi settings?
please help us, i would love to keep the new rom on my wizard, it's so much quicker and it has all the extra bells an whistles.
thanks
Chiming in...
I actually found that the WIFI works better with the latest ROM (2.17/CF2, etc.) from summiter. There were networks that I couldn't connect to to save my life... now I can get in no problem.
Sorry you guys are having problems though.
marcini said:
porky145 said:
I've had the same problem with the updated roms. I'm running a D-Link 614+ rev b router using MAC filtering and no encrypton. My 8125 sees the router but it can't connect. I adjusted mty power settings but still no luck. I think everyone who has this problem should list their gear here so we can figure out a way to get around this problem.
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summiter
I'm having the same issue, i'm acutally using the same router as the person above, it will see the router but wont connect unless i reset the router. Plus it wont connect to any hot spots that it used to when it was on the old OEM cingular rom, so it must be something with the new 2.17 Rom. Did you make any changes in the WiFi settings?
please help us, i would love to keep the new rom on my wizard, it's so much quicker and it has all the extra bells an whistles.
thanks
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I can third this comment about he DLink 614+ and the DLink 524. My 8125 connects to the routers but then immediately locks up and I have to take the battery out to get it working again. I have not upgraded the firmware on either router so I might try doing that this weekend before doing anything. I know that DLink has upgraded some of ther routers due to some issue they had with NTP.
So far, I tested two routers with WPA: Linksys WTR54GS travel router and DLink DI-634M. And my workplace's wireless network using Cisco Access Points (54G) with no security (we use additional Cisco VPN in order to access network). All worked fine without issues. There are definitely changes in new wireless drivers. For one, it has a lot more parameters in registry. For two, it now supports LEAP. Thirdly, in the wireless networks window, it now shows signal strengths for each network. These are all positive improvements.
I haven't try to connect to a 11b router because I can't find one. Sounds like the issues are specific to DLink DI-614+ and the similar. If that's the case, time to get a new router. It's only $40 and you get much faster speed.
The router giving several of us problems is the Linksys WRT54GX4 SRX400, which is the latest MIMO router from Linksys...
-BK
foxbat121 said:
If that's the case, time to get a new router. It's only $40 and you get much faster speed.
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I understand what you are saying but I don't think thats the point. Replacing the router is easy, but what was changed in the rom to cause this problem. And if anyone wants to know Circuit City has G routers on sale, I got a WRT54G for about $65 out the door. But i would still like to know what caused this problem
I believe there is a difference between the network adapter driver from ROM2.17 and Cingular ROM. Anyone with network connection problem after upgrade to ROM 2.17 may want to try this:
Download and install WiFiFoFum2 from Aspecto Software, then run this program everytime you turn on wifi, it will help detect and connect to your network. I can't explain why but it works for me so I hope it would work for you too. My network is Dlink-524 with WPA enabled and MAC filtering.

WiFi DoA on my Tilt/Kaiser?

Hello Everyone,
I'm looking for either a confirmation that my my WLAN is bad, or suggestions on other things I should try before taking it back in for replacement.
Searching and browsing through the forums I didn't see anyone mention any of the problems I'm having so I'm assuming I'm the only one (or one of very few) that bought a Kaiser with a defective Wifi radio.
Here's the symptoms:
I tried connecting to my wireless connection at home maybe a day or two after I bought my Tilt (last Friday). My home connection is draft 802.11n with WPA2-PSK security.
So I enable the WLAN and it detects my Wifi network and it asks for the key. I input it and then it tries to connect, but... it never does. I tried it a few times consecutively and it still didn't work (I get the animating arrows and the 'halo' around the beacon, but then it goes away, and it just keeps doing that). Now, I've seen this before with on my XV6700 with a beta ROM of WM6, but I know well HTC and AT&T wouldn't release something with broken WPA/2 support. At least HTC, I thought...
So I unlocked my Tilt and loaded the factory Kaiser ROM I downloaded from here, and well, WPA2 didn't work on it either. Weird, I thought, so I searched forums and no one mentioned any of this. So I changed my security settings on my network to WPA-PSK (from WPA2) and that made no difference at all... I don't want to bore y'all with everything else I tried, but to sum it up, I then tried a WPA fix I found on PPCGeeks, but that just ended up making my WLAN staying disabled, so I unintalled that and I decided I would try it with a WEP or Open wireless network.
Well, this morning I did just that and even when I try to connect to a wireless connection with WEP, I get the same behavior when I tried this at home with WPA. I've triple checked the WEP key, and I know it's right.
I haven't tried it on an Open network yet, but I'm assuming I'm going to get the same results. I'll have to find a wireless router no one's connected to so that I can try this out, but it might take me a while. Should I even waste anymore time on this? Anyone else here having (or had) the same problem?
I might start loading the AT&T ROM on this soon so I can take it back, but if any of you have any suggestions, I'm all ears.
Wow. Am I the only one on here who's having this problem?? Lucky me, I guess... :S
Anyway, I just tried connecting to a public and open wifi network here in SF, but my Kaiser still wouldn't connect. Guess that confirms it: my WiFi adapter is defective.
Anyone know if I can get it replaced in a different store from where I purchased it, and what I need to take (hope it's just the phone)?
d0ubl3_d1zzl3 said:
Wow. Am I the only one on here who's having this problem?? Lucky me, I guess... :S
Anyway, I just tried connecting to a public and open wifi network here in SF, but my Kaiser still wouldn't connect. Guess that confirms it: my WiFi adapter is defective.
Anyone know if I can get it replaced in a different store from where I purchased it, and what I need to take (hope it's just the phone)?
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just tried my wifi on the tilt ... works fine out of the box (to my home secured wireless network)
d0ubl3_d1zzl3 said:
Hello Everyone,
I'm looking for either a confirmation that my my WLAN is bad, or suggestions on other things I should try before taking it back in for replacement.
Searching and browsing through the forums I didn't see anyone mention any of the problems I'm having so I'm assuming I'm the only one (or one of very few) that bought a Kaiser with a defective Wifi radio.
Here's the symptoms:
I tried connecting to my wireless connection at home maybe a day or two after I bought my Tilt (last Friday). My home connection is draft 802.11n with WPA2-PSK security.
So I enable the WLAN and it detects my Wifi network and it asks for the key. I input it and then it tries to connect, but... it never does. I tried it a few times consecutively and it still didn't work (I get the animating arrows and the 'halo' around the beacon, but then it goes away, and it just keeps doing that). Now, I've seen this before with on my XV6700 with a beta ROM of WM6, but I know well HTC and AT&T wouldn't release something with broken WPA/2 support. At least HTC, I thought...
So I unlocked my Tilt and loaded the factory Kaiser ROM I downloaded from here, and well, WPA2 didn't work on it either. Weird, I thought, so I searched forums and no one mentioned any of this. So I changed my security settings on my network to WPA-PSK (from WPA2) and that made no difference at all... I don't want to bore y'all with everything else I tried, but to sum it up, I then tried a WPA fix I found on PPCGeeks, but that just ended up making my WLAN staying disabled, so I unintalled that and I decided I would try it with a WEP or Open wireless network.
Well, this morning I did just that and even when I try to connect to a wireless connection with WEP, I get the same behavior when I tried this at home with WPA. I've triple checked the WEP key, and I know it's right.
I haven't tried it on an Open network yet, but I'm assuming I'm going to get the same results. I'll have to find a wireless router no one's connected to so that I can try this out, but it might take me a while. Should I even waste anymore time on this? Anyone else here having (or had) the same problem?
I might start loading the AT&T ROM on this soon so I can take it back, but if any of you have any suggestions, I'm all ears.
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This is what I did. Start->settings->connections tab->WiFI. Now you should see your routers name there with the signal bar next to it. Tap AND Hold the name, then go to settings or edit(I forget), then click NEXT, uncheck the box that says "the key is automatically provided"(thats for open access routers/networks that dont require codes). Then type in your code & make sure you specify what key # it is. click next and youre done. You should be able to connect.
silly question here. is your router broadcasting 802.11b or g? the wifi won't connect to anything else.
You might also check your AP to see if it's not broadcasting its SSID to the world (a common security setting). I couldn't connect until I enabled broadcast on my AP, set the network up, and then went back and disabled SSID broadcast.
Why in the hell this is a problem in the first place is beyond me, but this is the third smartphone/PDA with wireless that I've had to do that for. And every time, once the device found the network once, it never had a problem finding it again.
Believe me. I tried everything in the WiFi settings page. I edited the settings, removed them and added them again, and like I said before I even went and changed my security settings on my router (which to answer your question, zeta, it broadcasts in: n, g, and b. Same router worked with my Apache/XV6700).
Anyway, I stopped by the store where I bought it today and they told me that as far as he can tell, that does qualify for a replacement. The problem is they don't have any in stock to replace it with, and he has no idea when they'll be getting more in. They only received 2 on launch day, and I bought one of those. He did mention that I can get it replaced at any store, however, but they all might be in the same boat.
Guess I'll try another store tomorrow, but if not I guess I'll have to go through AT&T's tech support (don't like the sound of that) and get it replaced through them. So I guess this means I might have a few days to mess around with the phone and even try some risky thangs.
So if any of you developers and hackers, er, I mean tweakers need some1 to test something, I can be that guinea pig (for a while at least)... Just give me a shout.
To troubleshoot your wireless connection always try ruling out as many other factors as possible. So put your router to NO security (temporarily ofcourse) and have it broadcast 802.11g. Also make sure you add the mac address of your device to the list in your router, if it uses mac address filtering. Try connecting to it with a laptop and see if that goes fine. Work systematically...
PerfAlbion said:
You might also check your AP to see if it's not broadcasting its SSID to the world (a common security setting). I couldn't connect until I enabled broadcast on my AP, set the network up, and then went back and disabled SSID broadcast.
Why in the hell this is a problem in the first place is beyond me, but this is the third smartphone/PDA with wireless that I've had to do that for. And every time, once the device found the network once, it never had a problem finding it again.
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I have a similar Problem, your solution works partly for me:
As soon as I enable the AP to broadcast it's ID, Kaiser connects.
But as soon as the ID is hidden, it does not connect.
Weird.
Is it a security problem if the ID is broadcasted, provided I use WPA2-PSK/AES?
Thanks
V
No. Hiding the SSID really only protects you from folks that are wandering around without any tools. Open up a more fully featured scanner, and it'll pull the SSID out of the air. The encryption is much, much more important.
And I also wouldn't bother with MAC filtering. Changing the MAC address is usually a software setting, so it's not all that much additional security. WPA/WPA2 are much better solutions.
Yeah, the hidden SSID is not an issue with me, since I don't mind broadcasting it at home. Not too paranoid about it. If someone *really* wanted to sniff and break into my network, they could. Don't do much important and highly confidential stuff at home anyway.
Plus, like Perf mentioned, there's software out there, even for PocketPCs, that will find so-called "hidden" SSIDs. Thanks for your suggestions, anyway.
d0ubl3_d1zzl3 said:
Yeah, the hidden SSID is not an issue with me, since I don't mind broadcasting it at home. Not too paranoid about it. If someone *really* wanted to sniff and break into my network, they could. Don't do much important and highly confidential stuff at home anyway.
Plus, like Perf mentioned, there's software out there, even for PocketPCs, that will find so-called "hidden" SSIDs. Thanks for your suggestions, anyway.
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i had no issue connecting to my wrt54g running DD-WRT v23 SP2 with my SSID hidden with WEP enabled. when setting up a new connection, i just entered the name of the connection and then the WEP hex, and it connected flawlessly. Have fun hacking your phone until you can swap?
Mine is not working either. I exchanged the phone and found out that I was the 3rd person with the same problem.
BiPolarXpress said:
Mine is not working either. I exchanged the phone and found out that I was the 3rd person with the same problem.
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Glad to hear, I'm not the only one.
I exchanged my phone this morning, and I just tried connecting to my wireless network and guess what??
I'm getting the SAME RESULTS.
Now, before anyone goes and tells me that my router is the problem or that it's user error, then tell me: why does my laptop, PS3 and my Wii connect just fine?? I even changed the SSID and WPA key last night and they all connected w/o a problem as well. All except my freaking Tilt.
Can be it a coincidence that I got 2 bad phones? I don't know if I should call the store and tell them to hold up on sending the other phone to HTC.
Which reminds me, I probably should try calling HTC today, but I doubt they'll be much help...
I don't think you're nuts, and I doubt you got two bad phones. But if you want to double-check, take the phone to your local Starbucks or other shop with WiFi and see if it can detect that AP.
But at this point, I'd be inclined to look for a firmware upgrade for your AP. I could be that it's not supporting long or short preambles right (a problem for some devices in the past), doesn't like seeing more than XXX different devices, or just doesn't like your phone much.
Either way, I'm smelling an issue with your AP. I had a US Robotics AP/Router that drove me nuts because it would spontaneously reboot after a random period any time an IPSec VPN was present.
try setting the power mode on best performance. when i do that i stay connected to wifi.
I took both my old I730 and my tilt to the coffee shop before I returned my first tilt. I was able to connect my I730 at the coffee shop and home, but couldn't connect the tilt at either place. I also tried some open AP's in my neighborhood that I have been able to connect to in the past with the same results. Picky phone or bad wifi radios maybe.
Jesus... like the bloke said:
1) Turn off wpa and see if it will connect (it will unless you have set your N router to only use "n") If it won't then send it back.
2) If it does... then turn on WEP 128bit on your router... and use that instead.
WM devices have always had problems with WPA...
Hi all.
I have tried my HTC TyTN II with one Wifi LinkSys WAG54GS Router using WPA and not hidding the SSID and works fine, no problem at all.
Test with one AP from DLink at the office, using hidden SSID and WEP 64 and 128 Bits and no problem at all, works as fine as my LinkSys.
I'm going to try hidde the SSID at home with WPA and WPA2 and post the results later to know if there is a common issue with Kaiser or some freaky coincidence.
Regards.
d0ubl3_d1zzl3 said:
Hello Everyone,
I'm looking for either a confirmation that my my WLAN is bad, or suggestions on other things I should try before taking it back in for replacement.
Searching and browsing through the forums I didn't see anyone mention any of the problems I'm having so I'm assuming I'm the only one (or one of very few) that bought a Kaiser with a defective Wifi radio.
Here's the symptoms:
I tried connecting to my wireless connection at home maybe a day or two after I bought my Tilt (last Friday). My home connection is draft 802.11n with WPA2-PSK security.
So I enable the WLAN and it detects my Wifi network and it asks for the key. I input it and then it tries to connect, but... it never does. I tried it a few times consecutively and it still didn't work (I get the animating arrows and the 'halo' around the beacon, but then it goes away, and it just keeps doing that). Now, I've seen this before with on my XV6700 with a beta ROM of WM6, but I know well HTC and AT&T wouldn't release something with broken WPA/2 support. At least HTC, I thought...
So I unlocked my Tilt and loaded the factory Kaiser ROM I downloaded from here, and well, WPA2 didn't work on it either. Weird, I thought, so I searched forums and no one mentioned any of this. So I changed my security settings on my network to WPA-PSK (from WPA2) and that made no difference at all... I don't want to bore y'all with everything else I tried, but to sum it up, I then tried a WPA fix I found on PPCGeeks, but that just ended up making my WLAN staying disabled, so I unintalled that and I decided I would try it with a WEP or Open wireless network.
Well, this morning I did just that and even when I try to connect to a wireless connection with WEP, I get the same behavior when I tried this at home with WPA. I've triple checked the WEP key, and I know it's right.
I haven't tried it on an Open network yet, but I'm assuming I'm going to get the same results. I'll have to find a wireless router no one's connected to so that I can try this out, but it might take me a while. Should I even waste anymore time on this? Anyone else here having (or had) the same problem?
I might start loading the AT&T ROM on this soon so I can take it back, but if any of you have any suggestions, I'm all ears.
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I found that I couldn't get my Kaiser to connect to my WPA encrypted LAN - open access and WEP (64 and 128 bit) work fine.
Not sure what the problem is - maybe some incompatibility between the Kaiser and my Netgear router. I've downgraded the security to 128bit WEP for the time being but I'm hoping that there's a fix soon.

Wi-Fi connects but NO data transfer

Hi,
I have just got the Diamond and I have two main problem.
1) Although I have connected the Diamond to my Home wireless network, there is no data transfer. Opera can not open pages, Youtube can not start even I can not update weather?
2) When I connect the Diamond to the Laptop / PC, all PC's and Laptops connected to my home network (wireless) drop from the connection and never connect again?
Thank you for your kind help...
I have same problem with my Diamond.
1) go to: startmenu->settings->connections->Wi-Fi->networkcard/adapter->and make sure that it says "my networkcard/adapter connects to internet"Also at the same tab open IEEE 802.11b/g Compitable Wi-Fi Adapter and try to a static ip matching the one your pc uses. (not sure about it since i can't recreate the problem atm..)
2) Try the thing I suggested in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=417664 (plz use search next time)
bobo_error said:
1) go to: startmenu->settings->connections->Wi-Fi->networkcard/adapter->and make sure that it says "my networkcard/adapter connects to internet"Also at the same tab open IEEE 802.11b/g Compitable Wi-Fi Adapter and try to a static ip matching the one your pc uses. (not sure about it since i can't recreate the problem atm..)
2) Try the thing I suggested in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=417664 (plz use search next time)
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Thanks for your reply, but both of solutions do not work for me...
Any other suggestion?
Thanks for your help..
Try turning on wifi, then go in LAN WIRELESS and change in "improved performance"
All of this do not work for me too...
Go to Wireless LAN settings and there to power mode and set yo best battery.... that worked for me.
in "settings => connections => WiFi" is "Connected". In "Wireless Lan" there is Connected too... In log on my router there is MAC adress of Diamond as associated and authorized. All seems OK. But on Diamond do not work any internet connection (Weather, web, etc...). With Active Sync works fine. Laptop with the same settings works fine. But Diamond with WiFi... no way :-(
Any other suggestions?
Same problem after i made ROM update from 1.7... to 1.93. before works fine. no other software is istalled.
Been having an issue with connecting to my wireless network also for the last week. My phone is from orange in the UK. My wireless router is an Dlink 614+ on Virgin cable broadband.
The Diamond would connect intermittantly but then say 'not avaiable' after a period of time, or when trying to reconnect after diasbling/enabling wi-fi in the comms manager. Also, after restarting my router the device would connect for a while but not seem to 'hold' it's connection.
When the device was 'connected' I could not get opera/youtube to load a page, even though I could see the diamond in my router's log showing it connected with a leased ip address. What made it so annoying was that every other wireless mobile device/laptop I have owned has connected without any problem at all, leading me to beleive there was a problem with the phone. Again, this was rather frustrating as the phone was detecting avaliable networks but just not 'holding' the connection nor 'using' the connection in opera/explorer etc.
After searching on xda-developers and other forums for a possible known issue, I tried all the various suggestions including;
i/ increasing to best performance under power mode in Wireless LAN settings
ii/ Hard reset of router (even though other wireless devices were connected fine)
iii/ trying static rather than dynamic ip for my diamond in router settings
iv/ disabling any security/encryption on my router
v/ entering DNS settings in manually into my diamond
vi/ changing 'connect to' under wi-fi neteorks to 'Work' rather than 'the internet'
vii/ tried various roms
and other suggestions I had read about - all which didn't make a difference!
I was about to send the diamond back to Orange (here in the UK) but decided to give it one last go and change my router. I bought a Netgear WGT624 for 25 quid from PC today world and my diamond connected
straight away without an issue, and opera/youtube/messager all connected straight away to the internet. I have not lost connection once. So thats how I resolved it - obviously my device did not like 802.11b (on the original dlink router) even though all previous smartphones have connected fine and the diamond's wireless adapter is labelled b/g.
Hope that stops anyone wasting a week like I did, I would try it out on another router before making any decisions because the chip in the diamond seems a lot more picky to what it connects to than anything I've used in the past!
cheers
Linksys WAG54 is OK, Freebox is not perfect
It really seems to depend on the WiFi router.
I've had probems with my French Freebox (my ISP's ADSL+wifi router) using WPA2 AES. It would work fine, for half an hour maybe, then it would stop. It says it's connected but there is no data transfer. You can switch WLAN off and on, soft reset the phone... nothing will do. Then it will work again later on.
I downgraded encryption to TKIP and i experienced the same problem.
But then I've tried my old Linksys WAG54G router, using the exact same encryption protocol and key and it works perfectly (for hours)!
I've also tested free access (Paris public Wifi, Mc Donald's...) and they work fine.
As my ISP wifi box does not let me have a look at all the settings (beacon time, etc.) it is very difficult to tell what makes it not-so-compatible with my Diamond... But there must be something.

Tilt Wi-Fi Problem after WM6.1 Upgrade (official)

Hi, I've had my Tilt for a while now, and I just updated to the new WM6.1 ROM this morning. However, after the upgrade, I could no longer get the wifi to work. I can connect to the wireless networks (tried different networks both open and secure), but when I try go to a website or use the internet, it just sits there and then says cannot connect. I have tried everything I can think of to fix the problem. I tell it to connect through work and through the internet, and messed with some other setting but that wouldn't do it. I plugged the tilt into activesync and it used the computer's connect just fine. Anyone having or had this issue, or have any suggestions?
Chris
Did you install the remove hidden proxy CAB?
If not, go here and get it:
http://www.4shared.com/dir/6996097/3f1f5d36/cabs.html
It's the removeHiddenProxy4CWS_0522 file
There may be others that do the same thing.
I installed the hidden proxy cab on my tilt, and the wi-fi still isn't working. Any other suggestions on fixing this problem. It's killing me. I though I'd be able to upgrade and reinstall all my files in just over an hour before I ran into this issue.
Update: Okay, I reverted back to the previous WM6 ROM and the wifi worked with absolutely no problem right off the bat. I don't understand what the issue could be and whether anyone else is having the problem. I'm going to try the WM6.1 ROM one more time, and then give up. I have to have wifi because I'm not willing to fork out money for a data plan. Any solutions or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
change the power mode for the wireless mode to 'Best Performance'. This worked for me. Start -> Settings -> Connections -> wireless lan -> Power mode -> Best Performance.
Work Around For Wi-Fi Problem
I have found a work around for this and have tested on my "Tilt" which works 100% for the windows mobile 6.1 rom. On your device go to start, settings, connections then click on the connection icon then manage existing connections. Create on new setting on top of Media Net settings which you will have two connections. Name it Cingular GPRS, Enter Cingular GPRS, then Cellular Line (GPRS, 3G) for your modem, click next access point name wap.cingular, click next then User name [email protected], Password encrypted. The only thing you need to do is when using the internet & text messaging to have settings set on bullet mark Cingular GPRS. When using MMS only check check bullet mark for Medit Net and have proxy settings enabled at all times which will not affect your Wi-Fi connection to browser the internet once you switch back to Cingular GPRS in your settings. https://www.wireless.att.com/suppor...tutorialsCategory=MEdia+Net&tutorialId=614410
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I have found a work around for this and have tested on my "Tilt" which works 100% for the windows mobile 6.1 rom. On your device go to start, settings, connections then click on the connection icon then manage existing connections. Create on new setting on top of Media Net settings which you will have two connections. Name it Cingular GPRS, Enter Cingular GPRS, then Cellular Line (GPRS, 3G) for your modem, click next access point name wap.cingular, click next then User name [email protected], Password encrypted. The only thing you need to do is when using the internet & text messaging to have settings set on bullet mark Cingular GPRS. When using MMS only check check bullet mark for Medit Net and have proxy settings enabled at all times which will not affect your Wi-Fi connection to browser the internet once you switch back to Cingular GPRS in your settings. https://www.wireless.att.com/suppor...tutorialsCategory=MEdia+Net&tutorialId=614410
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Hi, I tried you solution several times, but still could not get the problem fixed. I guess I am just resolved to going back to the WM6 ROM. Thanks for the info though.
@abhijitray: I already tried changing the power settings when I first began having problems, so that's not it.
i have the same problem with my Tilt. But i found that when i connect to my PC with the USB cable, ActiveSync is on, my IE works fine. With Wifi connection, IE is still dead.
maybe an off topic question, but what does the new rom have that the original rom that came with the tilt doesn't? anyone have a link or something, or is it something like better batter performance? thx
i have tilt with the latest official WM6.1 ROM, and have no issues with Wifi.
Ok - here's my story.
I had a default WM 6.0 Official ROM Tilt and upgraded to ATT's 6.1. Immediately my WiFi stopped working. I waited for updates on this thread, and with my temper rising at such a poor release, I decided to go to Dutty's 6.1 Hybrid. Same thing - Wi-Fi didn't work. (To qualify, it would connect and get an IP address, but any attempt to access the net - ping, ftp, Gmaps, Activesync - would fail) I upgraded to the latest eMo radio and still didn't work. I scratched my head and decided to check my router. It's an older D-Link 802.11b and sadly the last firmware was released in 2005. I changed the settings on it to not use Turbo mode and voila, it connected. All happy and such.
But now the problem is slightly different. It will connect once, but after it disconnects (either because I manually turned off WiFi on the phone or the phone entered Standby mode) I cannot connect again. I literally have to reboot my router. This is great a home, but I worry when I have to use a public wifi hotspot. Any thoughts on that?
And yes, I have played around with the power settings.
Kojak
another thing I have noticed on my router is that my Tilt is not sending a hostname along with the DHCP request. Could that be the issue on the WiFi connection? I am wondering if that confuses the router.
Tom
I have the same problem too. tytn II with latest rom. At home with my old linksys which is a 802.11b device. If i disconnect wifi and then try to connect - the phone say - Unavailable. I notice that if i change the channel the phone connect just fine.... very strange
ps. sorry for my bad eng.
pasole said:
I have the same problem too. tytn II with latest rom. At home with my old linksys which is a 802.11b device. If i disconnect wifi and then try to connect - the phone say - Unavailable. I notice that if i change the channel the phone connect just fine.... very strange
ps. sorry for my bad eng.
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I see the same here - I think that by changing the channel it reboots/resets the router and allows you to try again.
ps. don't worry about your english. If this board was in a different language, I am sure that most people here would not even be able to post a thing.
kojak_nyc said:
Ok - here's my story.
I had a default WM 6.0 Official ROM Tilt and upgraded to ATT's 6.1. Immediately my WiFi stopped working. I waited for updates on this thread, and with my temper rising at such a poor release, I decided to go to Dutty's 6.1 Hybrid. Same thing - Wi-Fi didn't work. (To qualify, it would connect and get an IP address, but any attempt to access the net - ping, ftp, Gmaps, Activesync - would fail) I upgraded to the latest eMo radio and still didn't work. I scratched my head and decided to check my router. It's an older D-Link 802.11b and sadly the last firmware was released in 2005. I changed the settings on it to not use Turbo mode and voila, it connected. All happy and such.
But now the problem is slightly different. It will connect once, but after it disconnects (either because I manually turned off WiFi on the phone or the phone entered Standby mode) I cannot connect again. I literally have to reboot my router. This is great a home, but I worry when I have to use a public wifi hotspot. Any thoughts on that?
And yes, I have played around with the power settings.
Kojak
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Well, your problem sounds exactly the same as mine (WM6.1 official). Maybe I should have tried a public hotspot, but it just wouldn't work on my home network (I even cut off the encryption and made it open). I downgraded back to WM6 ROM and everything working fine, so I guess no WM6.1 for me.
It is definite a router by router problem. Had problems with the D-Link but I tried it on a Buffalo 802.11g router running Tomato firmware, and I had absolutely no problems. That being said, this could be either a:
802.11b problem?
D-Link problem?
Something must have changed in the WM 6.1 code from WM6.0 as it pertains to WiFi. If only it was as easy as a toggle setting to fix.
For me, it was the opposite. I could get WiFi to work at my office on Mobile 6.0, but I couldn't get my network at home to work. I have a Wireless-N network at home, and even though I set it to B-G only mode, it still wouldn't connect. As soon as I hit WM6.1, everything was fine.
Unfortunately, this happens more than one would think with Wireless network equipment.
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It is definite a router by router problem. Had problems with the D-Link but I tried it on a Buffalo 802.11g router running Tomato firmware, and I had absolutely no problems. That being said, this could be either a:
802.11b problem?
D-Link problem?
Something must have changed in the WM 6.1 code from WM6.0 as it pertains to WiFi. If only it was as easy as a toggle setting to fix.
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Kojak_nyc,
You hit it on the head. It is a router issue, although its not limited to the D-Link router because I have a 2wire HomePortal 1000HW and it also doesn't work. It is also on 802.11b, so that could also be the issue. Something must have changed between in the settings the WM6 and the WM6.1 upgrade. I'll go ahead an inform HTC of the issue (not that they'll do anything).
I believe that the once the tilt is updated to WM6.1, it no longer works on IEEE 802.11b.
I think this is a Dlink issue. I've got a linksys router at home and it connects to that fairly quickly. ssid on that isn't hidden cuz i've got vista machines that have a hard time connecting.
anyway, at work i've got a dlink di624, 802.11g, router and i've not been able to connect the kaiser to it. i think tomorrow i'll do what was suggested and just play around with the channels and find which works. the dlink's set to automatically choose the channel it uses so i'll hard code it for a channel i know the kaiser'll scan for and then see what happens.
if it doesn't work i'll juts keep using the 3g connection... i do have 6GB/mo and haven't come anywhere near using it up.
Experienced similar problem just now. I just upgraded to WM 6.1 and my WiFi connection's been unstable since last night. I have a wireless router with excellent signal on my room and enjoys streaming video before I upgraded to WM 6.1. When I reset the phone it restored WiFi connection again.
Hope you could share some tweaks to resolve this problem.
Thanks.

Connection problems 3G/Wifi

Hi guys!
I have a Touch Diamond 2. It's great and certainly an upgrade from my Touch Cruise!
I have a strange problem though. Whenever I try to connect through 3G (T-Mobile Netherlands), immediatly after it makes the connection, it gives the dialog 'cannot connect etc'. 3G is truly connected but no data is coming in.
Now I have found where the problem lies, sort of. 3G works fine when I don't configure my home Wifi connection. Whenever I configure that, 3G stops working. It doesn't matter if Wifi is turned on or off. 3G does have a dynamic ip, where my Wifi connection requires a static IP. But I make all these settings in the Wifi part of the configuration screen, the IP details are under the 802.11 b/g network card.
This used to work flawlessy on my Cruise. Anyone have a solution? Thanks!
good morning. as you are with tmobile i'd suggest you are having the same problems as me with tmobile uk. for some reason tmobile sets up a proxy server in your 3g data connection setup, this caused huge problems for me but clearing it solved them all.
try this first and see how you go.
Possible, but where exactly do I change the proxy settings of the 3G connection?
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Possible, but where exactly do I change the proxy settings of the 3G connection?
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Hey that's a coincidence, just read the same question at GoT
I have similar problems.
Now and than my HSDPA connection works good, but at some moment I just can't reach any website.
Disconnecting and reconnecting to HSDPA sometimes helps, and sometimes I just have to wait a few minutes and than it works again.
I also tried another DNS (OpenDNS) but it doesn't solve the problem,
Proxy settings can be found at (I assume your dutch):
Instellingen> Meer> Verbindingen> Verbindingen> Mijn proxyserver instellen
At my TD2 is no proxy set, so thats not the cause.
Hope sombody else can help!
Do you have a static IP for WIFI as well? I kinda found out that setting WIFI on dynamic IP solves the 3G problem, so somehow they must be connected. But this should be able to work, it's almost as if 3G 'takes over' the static IP from the WIFI settings, but the connection settings from my 3G are offcourse set to dynamic.
I had exactly the same problem with my D2. I also had it on my Cruise with the later ROMs. The official HTC 6.1 ROM did not have this problem.
I experience it when I set up my wifi 802.11b/g network card in the phone to have a static IP address and set the default gateway. If I use DHCP there is no problem.
Setting the wifi card up on the phone DEFINITELY screws up the cellular data connection.
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Do you have a static IP for WIFI as well? I kinda found out that setting WIFI on dynamic IP solves the 3G problem, so somehow they must be connected. But this should be able to work, it's almost as if 3G 'takes over' the static IP from the WIFI settings, but the connection settings from my 3G are offcourse set to dynamic.
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I use a dynamic IP, for me it doesn't work.
With my dear old Wizard (MDA Vario) I had no problem at all with the same settings!
yup thought i was the only one with this problem need a fix for it soon man otherwise we are gettin bumped for not havin the settings coz we on t-mobile
I solved it temporarily by setting Wifi to dynamic IP, but this prevents me from connecting at work. I'll send HTC an e-mail, let's see if they are willing to hot-fix this one
for me i find that the web sites work but any app that requires to go online ie facebook, msn, sky fire etc jus dont work wen you try to connect online......... stupid t-mobile
My connection problems are gone.
Maybe I (we) encountered hickups with the T-Mobile proxy-server....
maybe You can help me.
I have a MDA V (germany T-Mobile) and i can not connect to my AP here at Home.
I have a ASUS WL500g configured as AP behind my Firewall/Router. All other device in my house, a Laptop, a Netbook and a 'WII' working fine!
All get the IP from the Router, the AP works transparent.
D2 will not connect. The Mac-Address from the D2 is configured in the AP, and i can see the router statuspage and see the MAC of the D2 sometimes in the list. But only as "associated" and never as "associated authorized" as the Laptop here in example:
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Stations List:
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00:23:76:yy:xx:xx associated <-D2
00:1C:BF:yy:xx:xx associated authorized <- Laptop
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I configured a lot in the settings, but i cant get the D2 online with wifi.
Can someone plz help a bit?
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other question: if i manage the problem some day, is it possible to configure the Networksettings of the D2 device in the way that the device only use USB and te WiFI-Connection to access the internet? I hat it that the device use mobile-internet connection without asking me to do so.
Same problem
BeQuietAndDrive said:
I solved it temporarily by setting Wifi to dynamic IP, but this prevents me from connecting at work. I'll send HTC an e-mail, let's see if they are willing to hot-fix this one
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I was experiencing the same problem, only with the difference that I am using 3 different Wi-Fi adapter settings every day (for 3 different networks - two with fixed IP and one with DHCP enabled. Most elegant solution that I came up with was a small, but very handy application called "WiFi Profiles". Settings for WiFi adapter are easily changed by choosing a profile that you want to use and applying it. Before you disconnect from WiFi network, you just set adapter to DHCP, and after that your GPRS/3G/HSDPA connection works like a charm. By the way, I am proud owner of Touch HD but I am using Dutty`s Topaz based rom V3.4 XTREME SHIP.

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