Tilt + Motorola S9 = Audio Skipping - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

I can barely play a podcast or song without it skipping around and sounding terrible. I’ve looked around for possible a2dp fixes, but cant seem to find anything that works. I tried the cab fix floating around, and it seemed to make it worse...
Anyone else having this issue, or know of a fix?
Ill even try a new ROM if need be. I’m current running the latest stock AT&T ROM at the moment.... haven’t tried any homebrew stuff on the tilt yet. I just broke open my old 8125 and installed WM6.1 with the touch flow cube... that was cool!

Don't use bluetooth headsets, but there is a fix for that in kaiserTweak as far as I remember. Besides, I've seen lots of threads about bluetooth issues here. You should search around.

DarkDvr said:
Don't use bluetooth headsets, but there is a fix for that in kaiserTweak as far as I remember. Besides, I've seen lots of threads about bluetooth issues here. You should search around.
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Wow... Dont use one... Great idea... Thanks for the advice.
Im gunna go return my Tilt and grab one of those bag phones off eBay today. Screw technology....

I haven't had an issue streaming internet radio over my S9's, on the old or new ROM. There are some BT tweaks in advanced config though...
-Jay

You talking bout the advanced config in KaiserTweak? I just unlocked my tilt and installed Dutty's latest and it still does it...
What advanced config are you refering to?
EDIT:: I just noticed there was an advanced config in system settings on Dutty's... playing with the BT settings now... but even the call quality with the S9 is garbage...
Using radio 1.58.26.20

pittaman said:
You talking bout the advanced config in KaiserTweak? I just unlocked my tilt and installed Dutty's latest and it still does it...
What advanced config are you refering to?
EDIT:: I just noticed there was an advanced config in system settings on Dutty's... playing with the BT settings now... but even the call quality with the S9 is garbage...
Using radio 1.58.26.20
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Advanced config is a similar program to Kaiser Tweak. It is made by Shapp's. You mentioned that you saw it in your Dutty ROM. Dutty may have baked that Shapp's goodness right in...
-Jay

Bull****...Here's your problem
Lower your bit pool setting in schap's advanced config......Set your bit pool to 61....max supported bit pool to 64.....minimum pit pool to 14....sample rate to 48000Hz that will fix your problem...I promise
Moto S9 are ****n' awsome.....
Peace
Mike

mike19722 said:
Lower your bit pool setting in schap's advanced config......Set your bit pool to 61....max supported bit pool to 64.....minimum pit pool to 14....sample rate to 48000Hz that will fix your problem...I promise
Moto S9 are ****n' awsome.....
Peace
Mike
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I agree. I wear mine to the gym. I stream internet radio over an HSDPA connection on my Tilt to the S9's. I can't stand when I forget to bring my S9's and I have to use a wired headset with an mp3 player. The wires really annoy me.
-Jay

mike19722 said:
Lower your bit pool setting in schap's advanced config......Set your bit pool to 61....max supported bit pool to 64.....minimum pit pool to 14....sample rate to 48000Hz that will fix your problem...I promise
Moto S9 are ****n' awsome.....
Peace
Mike
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I had my bitpool set at 20... Max 80... Everything else the same... Heard lower bit pool was better... haven’t tested your settings yet, but i did notice something strange. I paired the headset to my buddies laptop, and the audio worked fine after a few seconds...
Paired it back up with my phone, and as long as I’m not holing it in front of me (the phone), the audio was actually fine. Holding it in front of me, and having it gripped as if i was just holding it to hold it, covering up the majority of the phone, the audio sucked.... I placed it on the table in front of me, and off to the side, and the audio re-establishes a decent quality... really strange....
do the radio versions make a diff on the BT quality for a2dp? Should I try a different radio....?

pittaman said:
I had my bitpool set at 20... Max 80... Everything else the same... Heard lower bit pool was better... haven’t tested your settings yet, but i did notice something strange. I paired the headset to my buddies laptop, and the audio worked fine after a few seconds...
Paired it back up with my phone, and as long as I’m not holing it in front of me (the phone), the audio was actually fine. Holding it in front of me, and having it gripped as if i was just holding it to hold it, covering up the majority of the phone, the audio sucked.... I placed it on the table in front of me, and off to the side, and the audio re-establishes a decent quality... really strange....
do the radio versions make a diff on the BT quality for a2dp? Should I try a different radio....?
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I am sure you may have already tried this, but turning of WiFi eliminated this problem for me...Very annoying to be sure.

nomarhits400 said:
I am sure you may have already tried this, but turning of WiFi eliminated this problem for me...Very annoying to be sure.
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Huh... didnt think about that.... although i usually have wifi off anyway.... ill double check
At least its more widespread than i thought.... is it just an A2DP issuie? it didnt seem to do it with a regular BT headset for talking.... and using the s9 for a conversation didnt seem to suffer the same issuie either... just sterio audio...

Still Having issues
Wireless is off and bit pool is down to 64 but I still have the "skipping" issue about 3 or 4 times a song

Hmmm
Yeah i have the settings set like suggested, but still have the issue when the device is obstructed.... I suppose thats just the nature of the beast. Not sure what else to do...
Will a different radio version provide different bluetooth performance?

Hate to say this, but I bought some S9's yesterday and they seem to be great! I'm using the default settings for A2DP.
However, I can see that there might be issues if the phone is directly infront of your head, since the transmitter and the receiver would have your head between them. Doesn't bode well for having the phone in your pocket and using the controls on the headphones does it! I'll see how they fare over the week with normal usage and then see if I'm still pleased!

Steve-C said:
Hate to say this, but I bought some S9's yesterday and they seem to be great! I'm using the default settings for A2DP.
However, I can see that there might be issues if the phone is directly infront of your head, since the transmitter and the receiver would have your head between them. Doesn't bode well for having the phone in your pocket and using the controls on the headphones does it! I'll see how they fare over the week with normal usage and then see if I'm still pleased!
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I found some posts saying to delete the reg keys involving min and max bitpool, and that seemed to help somewhat... and it seem slike after the first bit of skippage, it seems to be fine.... all this and I havent had time to hit the gym to really try it out yet lol... Ill report back when I know more real world testing... on my desk seemed fine...

S9's are just crap. I have a set, and I hate mine, due to the constant interruptions unless there is direct line of sight between the transmitter and the receiver, and the pressure they put on my ears while still being very loose at the same time.
Not recommended.
Surur

Well, here is the report back! I'm still pleased. Tonight I gave them a real work out streaming audio through WMP since it's the biggest memory hog, surfing the net using Opera Mobile via a WiFi connection, logged into Skype and MSN and occasionally sending/receiving SMS. There was one heck of a lag whilst sliding the keyboard out. i could type SMS, but it took a few seconds for the screen to catch up. Im not dissapointed since all the other apps were running in the background at the time and would have all been reformatting for the switch to landscape mode. However, the S9's were perfect. No jumping, skipping, or lagging at any point, and I could use the headset audio controls without delay no matter what else was being done to the phone.
All in all, a great set of headphones and I reckon will give me 5 days of use based on around 4hours a day of music use. However the Kaiser is only just lasting a day now I'm using approx 5hours of the screen being constantly on, with 3 hours being WiFi use, and 4 being streaming music. Bigger battery time and larger memory card me thinks! (Larger card, cos I want to store more music than a 2GB card will let me!)

Hey guys the problem isn't totally the Tilt's fault. Playing with the Tilt's BT settings will make it a bit better, the real issue is in the S9. The BT radio is not very strong. If you review the S9 manual it will show that the phone has to be put into the "optimized zone' of the body, which is basically above the waist and below the neck and preferably to the left or right side of the body. Yes I know it's BT and it should go 30 feet and does well (not quite 30 feet) as long as the device is not right up next to something, like your body. Also, make sure nothing is covering the back bar of the S9. i can use my hand to cover the bar (where the radio is) and I will get drops immediately. i found this out because the first day I tried to use the S9 I had a jacket with a big thick collar. I would get skips left and right. Once I moved the device to the "optimized location" and made sure the s9 wasn't obstructed then I got good signal.
I think the s9 is great for workouts where you can leave your Tilt sitting on the bench, then you can go without any issue. As long as you don't throw your sweat towel over the Tilt.

smittyofdhs said:
Hey guys the problem isn't totally the Tilt's fault. Playing with the Tilt's BT settings will make it a bit better, the real issue is in the S9. The BT radio is not very strong. If you review the S9 manual it will show that the phone has to be put into the "optimized zone' of the body, which is basically above the waist and below the neck and preferably to the left or right side of the body. Yes I know it's BT and it should go 30 feet and does well (not quite 30 feet) as long as the device is not right up next to something, like your body. Also, make sure nothing is covering the back bar of the S9. i can use my hand to cover the bar (where the radio is) and I will get drops immediately. i found this out because the first day I tried to use the S9 I had a jacket with a big thick collar. I would get skips left and right. Once I moved the device to the "optimized location" and made sure the s9 wasn't obstructed then I got good signal.
I think the s9 is great for workouts where you can leave your Tilt sitting on the bench, then you can go without any issue. As long as you don't throw your sweat towel over the Tilt.
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That's all I've ever used the S9's for is going to the gym. I usually either have the Tilt in the cupholder of the treadmill, or otherwise I have it on the floor at my feet while I'm using another piece of equipment. Never had any problems with it.
-Jay

For what it's worth, I own both a pair of S9's and a pair of Motorola HT820's. As much as I love the size and styling of the S9's, they do not hold a candle to the HT820's.
As mentioned in previous posts, I believe that the BT antenna on the S9's is extremely weak, and perhaps they lack a large buffer for streamed audio? What leads me to suspect this is that when using my HT820's, I can go a long distance from my device without skipping or interruption, even having music play on for a few seconds after going outside of what I would reasonably think their range would be.
With my S9's, all I need to do is turn my head the wrong way to have skipping.
If I was buying again, I would never spend money on the S9 headset again. Try as you might, tweaking out out device settings won't really fix your reception.
Anyhow, that's my $0.02

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Why does every body oohing and ahhing about this piece of junk? IT DOES NOT VIBRATE!!!!.... Let me repeat. IT DOES NOT VIBRATE!!!! So the only way for you to get call notification is to either wear the ear pieces all the time or turn on your Athena default ear shattering notification sound. Now, I understand that a lot of you think that no one will ever call you or the line of work that you're in will never ever require you to attend any meeting at work so the default loud Athena notification is not a problem. But think again!!!! On that rare occasion when the hooker you paid to go out on a date with you calls, you will find yourself looking like an IDIOT emitting that horrible stupid default call notification sound that came with the Athena. DON'T WASTE YOUR MONEY BUYING THIS PIECE OF SH*T.
The only stereo BT headset that also vibrates up until now is the Jabra BT8010.
sumtingwong said:
Why does every body oohing and ahhing about this piece of junk? IT DOES NOT VIBRATE!!!!.... Let me repeat. IT DOES NOT VIBRATE!!!! So the only way for you to get call notification is to either wear the ear pieces all the time or turn on your Athena default ear shattering notification sound. Now, I understand that a lot of you think that no one will ever call you or the line of work that you're in will never ever require you to attend any meeting at work so the default loud Athena notification is not a problem. But think again!!!! On that rare occasion when the hooker you paid to go out on a date with you calls, you will find yourself looking like an IDIOT emitting that horrible stupid default call notification sound that came with the Athena. DON'T WASTE YOUR MONEY BUYING THIS PIECE OF SH*T.
The only stereo BT headset that also vibrates up until now is the Jabra BT8010.
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We all got your point dude. Perhaps a bit nicer way could be a better way of informing and putting your point across. This is a forum to share information, where manners would be nice (other than info).
-Red-
Red_Toyol said:
We all got your point dude. Perhaps a bit nicer way could be a better way of informing and putting your point across. This is a forum to share information, where manners would be nice (other than info).
-Red-
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Manner would be spending a minute searching for more info (problems, etc...) about the item one is thinking of posting that have been reported time after time after time after time... up here before starting another thread tricking people into buying junks....
I'm with you Red_Toyol.
I bought this headset and the Jaba but took the Jaba back after a few days in favour of this one for two main reasons. First, the sound quality on the Sony-Ericsson is definitely better, both on Music and both ways on calls. Secondly, the wires for the earpieces act as the necklace so you wear it round your neck (and inside your shirt) and it only comes out when needed.
Now, since using it for some 4 months now, I can give you a couple of other pointers.
The DS970 has caller display so I can see who's calling before I answer. OK, it's number only (there's probebly a fix for names) but I'm good with that.
Also, I charge mine once every two weeks or so. That's as I use it only now and then for music but for phone calls all the time. However, I leave the BT on the Ameo ALL the time but switch off the headset when not using it. That's because, when the phone rings (and I only have 20seconds before switching to answer machine), I have time to power up the headset (about 5 secs including logon to Ameo) and answer. When call finished, I hang up and switch off.
If you do this, you get sooo much battery life for no convenience loss AND it means vibrate would be useless anyway.
Each to their own I suppose but I am so pleased with this bit of kit. IF you need vibrate, look elsewhere. If not, this is the best IMHO.
Oh, and as for the ringing, why would you use the default ringer anyway? I have my own ringtones for various purposes and when I get a call, my Ameo rings as if I didn't have a headset. The only difference is I can choose at that point which method to answer by.
Hope this is helpful to those searching. Cheers.
DS970 indeed looks like quite an ideal BT headset.
Vibration is completely unnecessary for me also. Even if I have such a function, I won't use it. The reason is this. If I'm outdoor, I want normal ringtone to come through from the phone's speaker. If I'm in the meeting, I would just switch via profile into one of those "special ringtone". Special ringtone could be mosquitoe ringtone (ultrasonic frequency ringtone which I can hear but some others can't), sound of coughing, or even sound of a vibrating phone, etc. Something that sounds acceptable from etiqeutte standpoint. In addition, my profile would have set the ringing to go from soft to progressively loud. There is no need to actually vibrate.
I like the style of the phone where you can hide it in your shirt with only two wires hanging out. It is much better than hanging it on the ear, which looks really wierd in my own opinion.
Thanks for the recommendation.
Beware of fake HBH DS970 from ebay sellers.
I did a quick research on this, and noted that many have bought from Hong Kong sellers mainly, but some are out of US too.
If you have it very cheap, it's likely to be a fake.
Attached are some articles related to these fake items.
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=137266&start=0
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http://reviews.ebay.com/Fake-counte...000003518644?ssPageName=BUYGD:CAT:-1:SEARCH:3
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Tritton - Another Option
Here is another option I came across while looking for a BT solution. The Tritton relies on the housing to clip on your pocket, shirt or coat but I have also used it with a lanyard when wearing a t-shirt. It also allows you the option of using any stereo headset with a 3.5 mm plug.
It is a very clean, mimimalist design (no blinking blue light) with an OLED display and Caller ID (number only) to conserve battery and relies on only 3 buttons for all the functions. So far it has worked very well with the Advantage and the range for both headset and stereo functions has been excellent with no static or popping at all. You can actually keep your device in your pocket, bag or briefcase without any degradation to audio quality. The only con is that there is not vibration feature.
I purchased mine at Tiger Direct for less than $100.
While trying to source for DS980, I came across DS220, which seems to be similar to DS980 except you're free to plug in your 3.5mm earphone of your choice if you wish.
Has anyone used this before? If so, how is the sound quality?
Anyone knows if there are other differences between DS980 and DS220?
bizarre this thread should appear as i bought some of these this very day for 40 quid from Cex, though they are brand new and CERTAINLY not fake. certainly if they are available for twenty quid il be gutted!! they seem to work fine. sound quality is great and i dont feel like a **** wearing them. all good then. the only thing i havent figured is whether i can get it to automatically open up media player when i press play. i also cant get it to work with my n95 - after pairing it just says 'unable to connect'. stupid n95.
eaglesteve said:
While trying to source for DS980, I came across DS220, which seems to be similar to DS980 except you're free to plug in your 3.5mm earphone of your choice if you wish.
Has anyone used this before? If so, how is the sound quality?
Anyone knows if there are other differences between DS980 and DS220?
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my main gripe with the sony units is that they have their own propriety charger connection, a kinda bastardised Sony phone charger.
IMHO the tritton unit is much better, recently upgraded to one from a hbh-ds970
i guess it all depends on each other's preferences. some like the headset to vibrate, some like it hanging via neckstrap, etc.
this is what i've been using for 2 years now:
http://www.itechdynamic.com/en/products_spec.asp?cid=2&pid=02030
it's an r35 itech unit. i use the white one and i like it for the following:
- no need to hang it in your ear all the time
- minimalistic and you can hide it in your shirt collar...or clip it
- has a built in buzzer that i can hear even when outdoors. when a call comes there are 2 beeps that go off. they won't stop until i answer or the caller hangs up
- my x7500 is either in my laptop bag, the diaper bag or in a backpack. so this saves me the trouble of carrying it all the time
- during meetings, i can disable the buzzer and change the notification to rapid light mode. basically, i leave it on the table so when a call comes through the normal flashing light turns to 2 rapid flashes
- i can change the single earphone to dual for a2dp stereo use. the headset also allows me to skip to the next track or go back to the previous, etc
- and i can plug my nifty bose noise cancelers on it as well
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I really cant understand why no one does the following:
a2dp
usb chrging
option for using your own headphones
vibrate
full caller id- not just number
sms viewing
full music controls
mp3 id tag display
lanyard or clip on option
equaliser controls
oled
wm and symbian compatitibilty
Surely it can't be that difficult- I just wanna be able to leave my Ameo in my pocket until I choose to take it out

Have you tried these?

Has anybody tried the Jabra BT620s on their tilt? if so, are they good and loud? Are they clear and no skipping? If not, what are the best bt headphones less than a 70 dolars.
Playing mp3 with BT620s and more player, great louder sound, no jumps...
all is ok.
My params for bitpool : 64, 30
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How old are they? Are they better than the moto s9's?
I actually just purchased this headset and it came in yesterday.
I like it so far. Good sound quality and OK range, though it's the first bluetooth device I've purchased.
However, some notes.
1)
The side of the earphones has a round circle shaped thing with LED's inside. This is an indicator led. The device has RED circles on the ears when it is charging. Yellow when battery is low, and blue for indicating when it is turned on among other things.
This is fine, but when the device is on the left side blinks every 5 seconds. In addition, when you get on a phone call both earpeices blink every 5 seconds. If you're playing music the same thing. If you're plugged in to the computer it will start to charge (red), but if you play music on the computer using the headset as USB headphones, the device will blink red.
I don't know about you, but I don't like looking like I'm on the Barney or Tele Tubby show. I prefer coworkers not know the device is even on. It'd be one thing if the large circles of light stayed ON, but blinking is a distraction to those around me. One godsend is with it in bluetooth mode (NOT connected to usb) you can hold the two buttons down and disable the blinking, but in USB mode you cannot.
2)
Being one of my first mass-consumer bluetooth devices to purchase I'm not sure if this reflects all devices. However, you cannot change the PIN number that allows the phone to authenticate the device. It's default is 0000 and it stays that way.
I have hacked bluetooth devices before using both my laptop and a high gain bluetooth antenna, and having done this I know that 0000 is the default for many headsets and other bluetooth devices. With the software I have on my laptop, I could have someone talk on my headset/phone and listen on my laptop to the convo, I could also barge in and say what I want in their conversation. I've done it to other people at starbucks with their bluetooth, with the high gain antenna I did it over 30 feet away.
This is a security risk, and I don't want my conversations monitored. Unfortunately, with this device you cannot secure yourself from such an attack. 0000 PIN is hardcoded to the device. Lame.
In summary, this handset is a good device other than the two major problems above. The sound quality is great, on par with any other standard USB headset -- but it has a Mic, it can pause/stop/play etc etc music on your Kaiser, or Windows media player when used in usb mode. Etc etc.
Thanks for that nice review. I'm really stuck right now, idk which to get out of the jabra one, soutwhing sa505, or the moto s9. I'm leaning towards teh moto s9's because they are small and supposedly have loud volume.
kareem9nba said:
Thanks for that nice review. I'm really stuck right now, idk which to get out of the jabra one, soutwhing sa505, or the moto s9. I'm leaning towards teh moto s9's because they are small and supposedly have loud volume.
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i would personally recommend staying away from the southwings. i personally was not fond of them at all and found the overall quality pretty bad. i own both the jabra's and the moto's and would have to say that both are great quality. but due to size and weight, the s9's win in all around comfort and usability. and the above post is right, the VERY obvious blinking rings on the ears that make you look like robotic princess leia can get annoying on the jabras (although you can turn them off). on the other hand though, they are fun to stare at sometimes.
great, thanks a lot. i think i'll get the moto s9's. i have a bit for around 12 bucks for the jabras, so if i win that, i'll get those to. found the s9's for around 60. hope they're good. are they the best out there?
@ jon_k :
LOL, please cut the leds !!! After turned it on, click on both left side & right side during 8 seconds.
I have this BT headset since more than 1 year, perfect product, maybe a little bit too big but jabra not planned to launch a new one
I personally bought the Jabras BT320s and am very satisfied. It does have removable headphones, leaving a standard 3.5mm jack so i could easily replace the stock ones(which are VERY good) with my Sony earbuds. Loud and clear, and even the built-in mic works wonders.
JeRoMe_aKa_JaY said:
@ jon_k :
LOL, please cut the leds !!! After turned it on, click on both left side & right side during 8 seconds.
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Permanent, or after shutoff/turnon does blinkies come back? I do shut them off using this method, but such a pain to do every time. ;-)
it will came back.
kareem9nba said:
great, thanks a lot. i think i'll get the moto s9's. i have a bit for around 12 bucks for the jabras, so if i win that, i'll get those to. found the s9's for around 60. hope they're good. are they the best out there?
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I had both the jabras and the s9's for 3 months. I sold the jabras right away after using both for awhile. the jabra's big, ugly and dont sound any better then the s9 does. I am more then happy with the s9's. Much smaller and the sound is almost the same.
Blinkies come back on every power cycle or recharge, as disclosed in the owner's manual. Makes you look like an idiot.
Great headphones, but a second problem is that the big, round buttons are way too big, so you will be hitting them by mistake a lot.
On my Tilt with the ATT ROM, sometimes they work great, sometimes they are cutting in and out, sometimes they won't connect with A2DP no matter what I do.
When watching video, the buffer lag can be a bit of a pain.
Jabras
I love mine. I look like a fool driving down the road with them on though. I use them for music and as handsfree. The handsfree works and sounds so much better than the normal BT's. Everyone noticed a huge difference on their end when I started using for handsfree. I love how the Music pauses and them goes right back when you hang up. Got them brand new for $20 at the AT&T store at the mall!!!!
Kevin
20 $ !!!!!!!!! what a good price !!!!
I've sold my Jabra 620 and replaced it with the Moto S9.
The S9s are much better in:
- size
- less geeky look
- smaller, easier to carry
- sound is good
- No super dorky light show
- buttons small but useful
The S9s are worse in:
- ear inserts fall off headset a lot, ended up using superglue
- only one earphone is active during phone calls, which is lame
- less comfy for long haul
- tend to interfere with collar shirts at base of neck
The 620 are better:
- comfort
- two active earphoness during phone calls means easy to hear caller
- sound great
The 620s are worse:
- Dorky lightshow
- you will look silly
- big buttons get hit by mistake all the time, will kill your battery in a bag
- big and don't stow well
Both of these worked much better with the Fuze than with the Tilt. The Fuze can handle multitasking like music and a screen rotation, the Tilt...not so much.
I'm sticking with the S9s for a while.

Bluetooth (stereo) performance

Not quite the "5min music lag" issue, but seems to be BT problem -
When hooking up the Moto S9 or Sony DR-BT22 headphones, the Diamond seems to have a problem streaming music to them. It stutters often (erratically but on average every few seconds), and depending where I place the phone it loses contact even though it's only parts of my body in the way.
Now, I'm not made of lead, so this shouldn't be an issue. Indeed on the Kaiser - that huge monster of a phone ;-) - it isn't, so what's wrong with the BT on the damn Diamond?
I've tried the 25.05 and 25.18 radios and same effect.
Anyone else having this annoying issue? I had to send the Motos back because they were sh1te unless I held the phone behind my head! (The suplier said the unit wasn't faulty)
Frustrated Ferg.

a2dp stutters when I move the diamond

ok, so I just noticed something really annoying. I just came back from my daily running and it was the first time I used the diamond with my stereo bluetooth philips headset for this instead of the ipod.
as soon as I started running and the diamond jumped up and down in my pocket the music started stuttering like crazy. like the old days when I had a cd player without shock memory
first I thought this had something to do with sensor lock running, but I uninstalled it and the problem is still there. I now tried to reproduce the stuttering when at home and it seems to be connected to the distance. when I hold the phone close to the bluetooth headset and start shaking the phone like crazy nothing happens. as soon as I move it down to my pockets it begins stuttering when I rapidly move the phone around.
I tried searching the forums but couldnt really find anything stutter related when it comes to motion. I'm not sure if this has something to do with the motion sensor or with my headphones weak bluetooth receiver...
any suggestions are welcome here, I'm a bit baffled by this whole thing.
greets,
4saken
Stuttering?
Sounds more likely to be your headphones. I use Motorola S9 bluetooth headphones and have no issue with the sound jumping, skipping or anything... unless I leave my Diamond in the house and walk down the garden! I'm not sure whether all Diamonds have the same bluetooth hardware. If some incarnations have different hardware, this might be the issue.
Can you 'borrow' a mates' headphones to see if you get the same result?
Perhaps one of the techno wizards here can let us know if there are any differences in the bluetooth hardware between various Diamond devices?
thanks for your answer. I'll try to find someone with another bluetooth headset.
I hope it's not hardware related. can you tell me what radio version and rom you got running? maybe there's a difference here.
sounds like its a problem with the bluetooth range, if you shake the phone when its near the headset it doesnt make trouble but when its more far away you get problems, so i would think it get out of transmission range.
no problem here with bluetooth on shaking
greets
what bluetooth headset do you have? the weird thing is, if I lay the phone flat on a table I can walk about 10 meters before I get any stuttering. why would shaking the phone reduce that range to about 1 meter?! that doesnt make any sense..
Lay your phone on the table walk around and shake yourself/headset and u will see it comes from ur headset.
Mine is plantronics dunno the specs can look tomorow as there is nothing on the headset.
greets
EDIT: if not i think the bloodtooth has a loose connection ?! But that shouldnt be on that onebrick device

Bluetooth Quality & Range

Hello,
I am new to this community so please don't be to harsh on me if somebody allready asked this question (Didn't find anything using the search though).
I own a 2015 P8 lite, using the Basic 608 Rom right now, but had the same issue with all other custom and stock roms that I've tried.
I am using my phone as a music player while jogging or exercising and i have some connectivity/bandwidth issues.
I keep losing the data connection to my headphones while listening tu some MP3. It seems that the BT connection between the devices is still online,
but no data is going through. This seems to be related to the distance between phone and headset,
but the direction the P8 lite faces and the angle seem to matter as well.
That wouldnt be much of an issue, if this would not happen at close range, (I'd even say closest range).
For example, i hold my phone in my right hand and the music would stop playing every time my arm swings back ,
where the distance is less than a yard... Quite annoying...
So here is the question...
Does anybody else have this or a similar problem? How did you solve this?
Or am I probably just facing the fact that my devices Bluetooth is broken?
is maybe even my music player (WinAmp) the reason for this?
(can't be the headset, because it happend with other sets as well while the set work perfectly on other devices)
This is one of the most used functions on my device, I'd appreciate some help here...
rgds
Lex
Bluetooth isn't made for motion transmitting, that's why almost everyone just put down their phones and send files via Bluetooth. As you may know, Bluetooth is an old thing, and it has alot of disadvantages. Try using another music player, like poweramp, or install viper4android. You didn't said whenever your Bluetooth speaker is a box with speaker or eardrums. The devices Bluetooth capabilities is the same as Galaxy S6 etc use, so that's not a problem. Maybe your speaker receiver is bad, or you bought something cheap with improvised Bluetooth. For now, just change the music player, try the sound whitout moving and than give us another feedback. Little to no chances that p8 lite is the fault here.
I did a little testing yesterday. I used 4 different music players, they all showed the same behaviour, so I guess it is not connected to them. All had these "dropouts" like the bandwith is minimized. I found out that this is not a motion issue but connected to position ans maybe angle. sometimes all I have to do is turn my head a little an the music would stop. It comes back when I move my head back to old position. if I weren't at very close range to the phone it say it is a distance thing, but it seems more like some kind of shielding... I guess i have to lend my wifeys phone and try whats going on then.. Oh, and I am speaking of In-Ear-Headphones
Lexington67 said:
I did a little testing yesterday. I used 4 different music players, they all showed the same behaviour, so I guess it is not connected to them. All had these "dropouts" like the bandwith is minimized. I found out that this is not a motion issue but connected to position ans maybe angle. sometimes all I have to do is turn my head a little an the music would stop. It comes back when I move my head back to old position. if I weren't at very close range to the phone it say it is a distance thing, but it seems more like some kind of shielding... I guess i have to lend my wifeys phone and try whats going on then.. Oh, and I am speaking of In-Ear-Headphones
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Than, the only remaining solution is to try your eardrums with another phone or p8lite with another eardrums. I don't really believe the phone is the problem here.
D1stRU3T0R said:
Than, the only remaining solution is to try your eardrums with another phone or p8lite with another eardrums. I don't really believe the phone is the problem here.
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I own a HTC One M7 with Slim7... I will give it a shot and see whats happening
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I own a HTC One M7 with Slim7... I will give it a shot and see whats happening
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So i did a little testing with the MotoG3 and the HTC One M7. Both connected to my headset and showed the same behaviour.
Seems like I need a new headset, the issue is not caused by the smartphone(s)
Thanks for your help...
Lexington67 said:
So i did a little testing with the MotoG3 and the HTC One M7. Both connected to my headset and showed the same behaviour.
Seems like I need a new headset, the issue is not caused by the smartphone(s)
Thanks for your help...
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Told you... Before you buy, check with the P8 lite if the new headset is working how it should.
facing the same problem, BUT the headset work as a charm with different android phones!
In my case it was definitely the headset itself, bougth me a new, different one and everything ist fine now.

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