somewhere on the forum... i saw this picture of a tilt back cover, and the speaker was a circle, not a square, and the camera cover looked really nice, it had a metal cover to prevent scratches.
where can i find this?
you sure you weren't seeing the back of the Touch Polaris/Orbit 2?
we can made a camera friendly back cover ourselves
Hi All,
I am wonder if anyone would like to join my project of making a camera friendly back cover for our Kaiser.
I am a product designer in Hong Kong and also a Kaiser user. I know a local factory that produce aftermarket cases for PDAs, to make a back cover is not a hard job at all. All I would like to know is how many Kaiser would like to have this new back cover.
Elton
I'd be interested but depends on the quality of the cover of course. Also maybe we could use some really good glass on the rear cover over the camera, such as polarized glass with anti UV and flare coating, any optician should be able to make it, but might work out a little expensive for the glass alone.
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I'd be interested but depends on the quality of the cover of course. Also maybe we could use some really good glass on the rear cover over the camera, such as polarized glass with anti UV and flare coating, any optician should be able to make it, but might work out a little expensive for the glass alone.
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you need a photography quality glass for good quality photo. Plus in order to fit in to the original back cover, the glass needed to be really thin, that's another challenge. That's why some people in the forum prefer to take the plastic out.
regarding to the quality, the factory is a very experienced one, a simple back cover is too easy for them. All I worry is the cost and how we can spread them out evenly.
How hard would a "flip" cover be? My previous phone, Sony W810i had no protection for the lens, other than the clear plastic area for the lens. The
K750i had a "flip" cover, which fit the 810i like a glove.
How reasonable would it be, instead of a glass lens, to just produce a cover with a simple flip open or slide cover for the lens? Even with a glass area for the lens, you will still get stains, fingerprints etc.
I'd vote for a rear cover with a slide-open cover over the camera. This would allow the camera to be protected from dust and when open, don't use any additional glass, the pictures would be much sharper!
It would have to be a good design that could withstand repeated open-close cycles.
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How hard would a "flip" cover be? My previous phone, Sony W810i had no protection for the lens, other than the clear plastic area for the lens. The
K750i had a "flip" cover, which fit the 810i like a glove.
How reasonable would it be, instead of a glass lens, to just produce a cover with a simple flip open or slide cover for the lens? Even with a glass area for the lens, you will still get stains, fingerprints etc.
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I agree. The lens glass needs some sort of protection.
Nokia's N-95 puts the lens at the hinge where no one puts their finger. The HTC Kaiser/Tilt is in a very bad spot for fingers and setting it down into junk or against a sweaty (i.e. wet) shirt pocket.
Also, you might need some bumps on the back to raise the phone a bit since they managed to put the speaker on the back which is about as effective as ....
The back cover gets a bit hot at times too. Don't know what can be done about that.
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you sure you weren't seeing the back of the Touch Polaris/Orbit 2?
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im sure. i know i saw it, but i dont know if it was edited, but it looked pretty real to me.
it looked almost identical to the kaiser's back, except instead of a square speaker, it was circle, and the camera had something better to protect it.
I meant a cover with a glass lens. Its always nice to have 2x times the protection
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im sure. i know i saw it, but i dont know if it was edited, but it looked pretty real to me.
it looked almost identical to the kaiser's back, except instead of a square speaker, it was circle, and the camera had something better to protect it.
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please let us know where you saw that cover. It would be nice if we can just pay for it.
Have you thought of using the invisible shield? this is cut with perfection, prevents scratches and marks on the device, and has a very accurate cut-out around the GPS and Camera recess.
www.shieldzone.com
flashy said:
Have you thought of using the invisible shield? this is cut with perfection, prevents scratches and marks on the device, and has a very accurate cut-out around the GPS and Camera recess.
www.shieldzone.com
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I am not sure about putting another piece of plastic in front of the camera would be a good idea to improve the quality of the photo.
Anyway, I have contacted the factory about this project, they will let me know the cost in about two days. In the mean time, feel free to throw in new design idea.
this back cover should be great!!, i dont mind even the need os using my fingernails for sliding the protector, the fact is that camera lens will be protected in my pocket!!
You can count me in for the sliding back cover for the camera, that would be perfect!
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this back cover should be great!!, i dont mind even the need os using my fingernails for sliding the protector, the fact is that camera lens will be protected in my pocket!!
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when did i say cover the camera? i said it's been cut around it.
I doubt you will find better to be honest. Without looking silly. It looks like new all the tiem with my shield on.
pepeto2001 said:
this back cover should be great!!, i dont mind even the need os using my fingernails for sliding the protector, the fact is that camera lens will be protected in my pocket!!
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no, I don't think finger nail is a good idea. If space is allowed, I hope to make a sliding door that can be opened by finger instead of finger nail.
Anyway, let's wait for the quote from the factory first.
Im interested too!
quotation received, but....
The factory replied with a quote but they made a mistake. The quote is for 1000 pieces of battery cover. I don't think we have that many people who would be interested in it, so I ask for a smaller quantity quote. They will get back to me tomorrow.
stay tune!
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The factory replied with a quote but they made a mistake. The quote is for 1000 pieces of battery cover. I don't think we have that many people who would be interested in it, so I ask for a smaller quantity quote. They will get back to me tomorrow.
stay tune!
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NO, NO, NO....
PM me with the 1000 piece price. I'm sure I could distribute these here in the US.
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I have been having very blurry photos and thought it was the lens but it came to be somehow the battery cover pladtic lens cover is scuffed up..it looks like just surface scuffs does anyone recommend a good way to buff these out? I know they make things for car headlights that will get rid of scuffs and surface scratches..any alternatives for smaller scales for this case?
Some might suggest popping off the back cover plastic piece out.
I tried a few things to clean it, didn't do much. And it gets scuffy again sooner or later.
Me, i just drilled a small 2-3mm hole in the plastic piece where the camera lens looks through.
Sure it's not Chromatic Aberation?
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I have been having very blurry photos and thought it was the lens but it came to be somehow the battery cover pladtic lens cover is scuffed up.
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The lens cover on my original HTC TyTN II battery cover appears to be coated thin glass so if yours is plastic that's a worry. As is, my camera suffers from Chromatic Aberation and thats something I learnt about here at xda-dev
it looks like just surface scuffs does anyone recommend a good way to buff these out? I know they make things for car headlights that will get rid of scuffs and surface scratches..any alternatives for smaller scales for this case?
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If it's just the coating coming off (perhaps due to contact with fingerprint sweat), you could contact HTC/your hardware provider and see what they say about getting a warranty replacement.
Using dry a q-tip, I rubbed the coating off the lens window inside and out, and the pics are bright and clear now.
I took my plastic camera battery off. haven't had a problem since.
Oh what is a plastic camera battery. I want one, or do I?
Instructions on how to remove the camera cover here.
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=339
Surur
Dont forget the importance of cleaning both sides
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Instructions on how to remove the camera cover
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Along with mention that cleaning it on both sides also helps (in the comments at the bottom). The problem is of course that just by using the phone you are likely to get fingerprints all over it again. My solution is to carry a Klearscreen cleaning cloth with me in my Windows Mobile version of a laptop bag. I use that for both the screen and camera lense cover when I need to take pics.
Perhaps I'm being overly sensitive in regards to my lens, but I keep thinking, one little scratch and it won't take a decent picture again.
Anybody tried just cutting up a screen protector to a mini size to fit it or are there any companies I haven't seen yet making one?
Thanks for any advice.
I've been wondering the same thing but I haven't seen one anywhere.
Just so you know, the OEM lens cover sticks on and is easily replaceable. If you take off the battery cover, it can be popped off with your fingernail. HTC probably has a replacement parts program. I can't see it costing over $5 to get a new lens protector.
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Just so you know, the OEM lens cover sticks on and is easily replaceable. If you take off the battery cover, it can be popped off with your fingernail. HTC probably has a replacement parts program. I can't see it costing over $5 to get a new lens protector.
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Wow. Awesome. Thanks for the info. I never even thought of it that way.
Not so worried anymore.
Anyone know if the lens cover is made of Gorilla Glass like the front screen?
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Anyone know if the lens cover is made of Gorilla Glass like the front screen?
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I do not believe the front is made of Gorilla Glass either. There was some conflicting info for a bit about that, but I think the final verdict is that it isn't Gorilla Glass.
BSE back skin comes with a little cover for the camera
I have this but hesitate to put it on. I'm afraid that it will degrade pictures. anyone install the lens protector from bse and can give an opinion?
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BSE back skin comes with a little cover for the camera
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Hi, under the recommendation of several people, I removed the stock thin film that protected the lens of the back camera. Is there a good way to protect it from scratch? Right now, I am using the SGP Ultra Capsule Series case as shown in the URL.
http://www.spigen.com/sgp-samsung-galaxy-note-case-ultra-capsule-series.html
Thanks.
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Hi, under the recommendation of several people, I removed the stock thin film that protected the lens of the back camera. Is there a good way to protect it from scratch? Right now, I am using the SGP Ultra Capsule Series case as shown in the URL.
http://www.spigen.com/sgp-samsung-galaxy-note-case-ultra-capsule-series.html
Thanks.
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That's overkill, just buy the Flip Cover, it will add 1mm around your camera lenses.
Since the Device sees the outside world through the Camera , using a layer on the camera will affect the amount of light getting in to camera and hence the quality of the image captured by the device will be low. So using a layer on the camera for protecting it from scratches is not a good option , it will protect the camera from the scratches but it will destroy the sole purpose of the camera. So alternative option will be using a case that can make the camera grooved-in and hence it can give considerable protection as camera surface will be grooved-inside the shell case.Choose the case wisely to get this kind of setup.
The glass covering the camera lens is almost flush with the aluminium border and the plastic back, so when you lay the phone on a flat surface it will almost touch it.
There are very thin cases, that add only 1 mm thickness to the phone and help separate the lens cover from the desk.
I'm trying to use InvisibleShield back proctector, it adheres well to the back cover, after a few days drying it does not seem that it's going to peel-off, and it helps maintaining the camera cover from touching the table.
hajime_android said:
Hi, under the recommendation of several people, I removed the stock thin film that protected the lens of the back camera. Is there a good way to protect it from scratch? Right now, I am using the SGP Ultra Capsule Series case as shown in the URL.
http://www.spigen.com/sgp-samsung-galaxy-note-case-ultra-capsule-series.html
Thanks.
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What you already have is sufficient. Its not that easy to scratch the camera lens, and anything you put in front of it will in some way spoil the quality of your shots. Its not as though there is something available like a UV filter that you would use on an SLR camera. My advise, is just go out and take pictures.
I bought the Real look screen protector from amazon and it comes with 4 tiny screen protector for the back camera. Best imo, but I haven't tried any others
I also got scratches there. Sammy you disappointed again
Get a case with camera shutter.
Sammy used cheap material again, it should have been gorilla glass.
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I also got scratches there. Sammy you disappointed again
Get a case with camera shutter.
Sammy used cheap material again, it should have been gorilla glass.
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Just out of curiosity, what effect has that had on your picture quality? It shouldn't be that noticeable, if at all, unless its big damage that is. Usually. small scratches cause a 'softening' of the focus, but shouldn't be that apparent, unless your really looking for it. I'm not making excuses for samsung though, and indeed they would probably call it a feature, where your phone will take increasingly romantic soft photographs over time.
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Just out of curiosity, what effect has that had on your picture quality? It shouldn't be that noticeable, if at all, unless its big damage that is. Usually. small scratches cause a 'softening' of the focus, but shouldn't be that apparent, unless your really looking for it. I'm not making excuses for samsung though, and indeed they would probably call it a feature, where your phone will take increasingly romantic soft photographs over time.
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Got 3-4 scratches at the edge, so it did not affect picture quality.
I always used to put the phone face-down but still got scratches.
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Got 3-4 scratches at the edge, so it did not affect picture quality.
I always used to put the phone face-down but still got scratches.
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Its about what I expected. I wouldn't worry too much. I have an old clam phone and that is scratched to hell, but the pics don't show any noticeable effects. I know its far from a like for like comparison. Also, we used to scrub uv filters with scotch bright to make our own soft focus filters. You would be amazed at how much 'scratching' we had to do before we started to notice any effect. I know you want to treasure your investment, but I would get on and use it to the full. :good:
i got 4 scratches there.. can lense be replaced?
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My Zenus PrintFolder protects the camera nicely. Love this case!
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Just made a rectangular piece of cheap plastic nd glued another plastic foldable holder for my x play. So now during photo time unfold nd zip down nd den zip up. Easy DIY nd works like a charm...
The glass covering the camera lens at the back is protruding so putting it down on any surface would make the glass touch it...how do you guys keep it from scratching?
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The glass covering the camera lens at the back is protruding so putting it down on any surface would make the glass touch it...how do you guys keep it from scratching?
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A case that's raised more than the camera is what I'm doing. Have done this for years without ever having my lens scratch.
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I'm keeping the protective little plastic cover over it. Took it off to see if any difference in pic quality and there was none.
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I'm keeping the protective little plastic cover over it. Took it off to see if any difference in pic quality and there was none.
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When I pick mine up from the shop I'll be leaving the plastic on - my S4 has a gaping scratch across its camera lense!
Normally there should be no need to worry unless you intend to drag your phone across a rocky road. It's protected by a veryt scratchresistant glass, simlar to sapphire glass. It can stand a heavy beating and still perform.
The only real problem is fat from your fingers smearing onto the protective glass, this will cause weird looking arefacts with highlights so make sure you keep it clean.
/ Magnus
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I'm keeping the protective little plastic cover over it. Took it off to see if any difference in pic quality and there was none.
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The plastic never covered over the sensor itself, only the outside edges.
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The plastic never covered over the sensor itself, only the outside edges.
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Correct. Good protection. Or you could get the Nillkin Amazing H+ 9H Hardness Anti-Explosion Tempered Glass*for the note 4, it comes with 2 mini tempered glass camera lense protectors
Though I have not used any case or screen protector for the front screen, I have cut exact size glossy screen protector for the camera lens. I developed lots of scratches in S2 lens, from then on I started protecting camera lenses.
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If you look carefully the platic frame around the glass is just slightly above the glass so really the glass doesn't make contact with a flat surface
The Samsung s-view case is just big enough to keep the lens from touching. It's a good option if you are concerned about the lens getting scratched and want front of phone protection.
If the plastic cover doesn't affect the photos then chances are the odd scratch won't either..
Wife has S5 and glass on the lens seems pretty tough! No scratches yet!
When not using my Note 4, I shoot pictures with high end Nikon glass (lenses). Some will say to put a plain UV filter on the lens as a means of protection, never go naked. Others will ask why would one put an $80 piece of glass in front of finely tuned and crafted $2,500 piece of glass? Additionally, all those large sport photographer lenses you see taking photos.......no filters are made that size, they use hoods which extend several inches from the front of the lens as a means of protection. Now, given the camera in the Note 4 is not a high end DLSR you may not see the difference all that much, depending on the shot. However adding some form of adhoc protector over the camera will certainly cause some form of photo degradation.
If you have a phone case where the camera lens is recessed you should be perfectly fine if: (1) you pay attention how and where you place it down and (2) keep it out of your pants, bags...etc that hold keys and your loose change..etc.
Remove any added plastic or glass in front of your lens; take clearer and sharper pictures!
Goodluck
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I'm keeping the protective little plastic cover over it. Took it off to see if any difference in pic quality and there was none.
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I didn't even know there was one those lol I put a skinomi skin on mine hoping that it's raised just enough xD
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I'm keeping the protective little plastic cover over it. Took it off to see if any difference in pic quality and there was none.
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I didn't even know there was one those lol I put a skinomi skin on mine hoping that it's raised just enough xD
Well, my first tip would be to not place your note 4 on a textured surface, press it down into the textured surface and then rubbing it vigorously against it, with your pressure RIGHT on the lens.
Other than that, just use it normally. Dont keep it in a bag of quarters, dont hack at it with nails, dont keep it with your keys in a pocket... The usual nobrainer things.
Should be totally fine. When I place it on a table, the lens doesnt touch the table.
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Normally there should be no need to worry unless you intend to drag your phone across a rocky road. It's protected by a veryt scratchresistant glass, simlar to sapphire glass. It can stand a heavy beating and still perform.
The only real problem is fat from your fingers smearing onto the protective glass, this will cause weird looking arefacts with highlights so make sure you keep it clean.
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/thread - really, the glass on the camera lens is the strongest glass you will find on your mobile device - applies to any phone.
Couldn't resist...cut out an extra screen protector and stuck it on the camera glass lol
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Correct. Good protection. Or you could get the Nillkin Amazing H+ 9H Hardness Anti-Explosion Tempered Glass*for the note 4, it comes with 2 mini tempered glass camera lense protectors
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Never heard of this before.. Have Otterbox but realized my camera lens for smashed today while outside doing yard work... This what you use? Installation hard? Got URL? Thanks in advance.
DrDank said:
Never heard of this before.. Have Otterbox but realized my camera lens for smashed today while outside doing yard work... This what you use? Installation hard? Got URL? Thanks in advance.
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I liked it. Gad the halo effect though unfortunately. But loved the 2 little camera screen protector too! Easy install.
Sorry, don't d have much time to search, url anyone it could i get camera protection for otterbox?
Does anyone know of a "Camera Lens Protector" that doesn't interfere with flash while recording video and taking pictures?
The builtin factory one... replace if needed.
I've always just got a case that stands tall enough to make sure the camera lens does not come into contact with the surface.
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The builtin factory one... replace if needed.
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Where would you buy a factory replacement and how much would it cost?
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Where would you buy a factory replacement and how much would it cost?
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You're jumping the gun. Google it... Samsung can replace it as can repair centers.
If you don't have a good case the display is more likely to get destroyed. I be more concerned with a good case and screen protector, both will most likely be a pain to find for a new model.
I don't even worry about damaging my cam as it's well protected by the case. The only thing I do is not use it as a hand hold as your fingers are more likely to mar it if you touch it. Even my S4+'s factory cam plastic lense protector is not scratched after many years in the desert.
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You're jumping the gun. Google it... Samsung can replace it as can repair centers.
If you don't have a good case the display is more likely to get destroyed. I be more concerned with a good case and screen protector, both will most likely be a pain to find for a new model.
I don't even worry about damaging my cam as it's well protected by the case. The only thing I do is not use it as a hand hold as your fingers are more likely to mar it if you touch it. Even my S4+'s factory cam plastic lense protector is not scratched after many years in the desert.
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The lens protectors that I did buy was prefect for protecting all three lens and taking pictures and video recording. But as soon as you use the flash for either, the flash glare from the corner of the lens protectors was the problem.
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The lens protectors that I did buy was prefect for protecting all three lens and taking pictures and video recording. But as soon as you use the flash for either, the flash glare from the corner of the lens protectors was the problem.
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I use the wet apply Gorilla IQ Sheild for my display. "Self healing" urethane that last a long time and stays put. Something like that but with any added layer you increase the refraction index.
Other undesirable things can happen with uncoated and/or poorly placed optical elements like back reflections and flaring.
Who knows maybe Samsung optic engineers really knew what they were doing... don't screw it up.
People want to protect the lense protector... doesn't really make much sense. This isn't a high dollar front lense, it's a piece of ordinary glass or polycarbonate.
Lense protector protectors are a gimmick.
Worry about a good case and screen protector instead because you will need them.