Help!
I have a Netgear DG834T router as provided by Sky. I have one wired and two wireless connections running into it (let's call them WD, WL1 and WL2 respectively).
On the connections page I can see all of them under "attached devices"...but now I want to connect using my Kaiser (actually an O2 XDA Stellar)
What happens...
On the Kaiser, I get an IP address (assigned by DHCP) as normal - but can't access the internet - or at least, can only access it very rarely - http://www.google.com can't be found, but http://www.bbc.co.uk can. No idea why.
On the router, under "attached devices", not only can I NOT see the Kaiser, but WL1 and WL2 also disappear. WD remains visible. The router cannot ping the IP address of the Kaiser (timed out). If I disable WiFi on the Kaiser, then WL1 and WL2 are immediately visible again. Internet connection on WL1 and WL2 works, even when they are not visible.
I HAVE connected to this network before without any problems.
What the hooting heck is going on, and how do I fix it?
Thanks!
Time to troubleshoot! What happens with this phone on another wireless network. We need to determine if it's the phone or the network. Do you have any friends with a phone like this? Can you use their phone on your network? Do you have any ROMs flashed, has this phone ever been on the network without problems?
If the phone works on another router try looking for firmware updates for the router. Those things really do need to be updated often and it could have something to do with that.
Only have access to one network :-(. Might be a couple of weeks before I can access a hotel one or something like that.
Think next door neighbour has similar phone, but different provider...will try if he'll let me!
No ROMS flashed.
It connected fine when I first had it. As far as I know, I've changed nothing since then.
2 out of 4 answered...with an option on three...I'll get back to you as soon as I've beaten up my neighbour and stolen his phone...
Joke!
There should be somewhere you can go to test that wireless. I can walk outside the building I'm in and find one.
ChumleyEX said:
There should be somewhere you can go to test that wireless. I can walk outside the building I'm in and find one.
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You = US, me = UK. We still think the biro is a recent invention...
Neighbour's phone on my network gives the exact same problem. I've also noticed that when I click "Renew IP" on the Kaiser it doesn't work...it gives me 0.0.0.0, but will occasionally flash up the correct IP address. It's alomst as if the connection is being lost and remade every few seconds. The status ist gives me is "associated to network"...is that different to "connected"?
I've been trying to solve this on my router, but none of the settings seem to make any difference.
Same here
I get the same with the router from sky.
Kaiser says I have an IP address, 192.168.0.5, but the it doesn't show up on the attached devices on the router.
What I find that works is hit renew IP maybe twice until you get a really wierd IP address like
169.254.*.**, actually not sure if I'm picking up another network, but for some reason I don't think I am.
I can then browse the web and sync via wifi.
Really pisses me of that it says that it has an IP address but doesn't connect.
1) Make sure you dont have a proxy set up on your wifi connection on your device.
2) The 169. address is your device getting an unauthorised IP address as the router did not receive the correct encryption key from the device.
3) You can check if its an encryption thing by simply logging in to the router (192.168.0.1 in your web browser on pc) and changing the settings to turn wpa off and testing it. The routers username and password are on the card - its something like "sky" and "admin"
Yeah I agree, there is something up with that router.
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Neighbour's phone on my network gives the exact same problem. I've also noticed that when I click "Renew IP" on the Kaiser it doesn't work...it gives me 0.0.0.0, but will occasionally flash up the correct IP address. It's alomst as if the connection is being lost and remade every few seconds. The status ist gives me is "associated to network"...is that different to "connected"?
I've been trying to solve this on my router, but none of the settings seem to make any difference.
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with my router.....i have to set the wifi power mode on my kaiser to "best performance", any other setting and i get that "associated to network" ****. been this way every since the hermes and the wizard.
unwired4 said:
1) Make sure you dont have a proxy set up on your wifi connection on your device.
2) The 169. address is your device getting an unauthorised IP address as the router did not receive the correct encryption key from the device.
3) You can check if its an encryption thing by simply logging in to the router (192.168.0.1 in your web browser on pc) and changing the settings to turn wpa off and testing it. The routers username and password are on the card - its something like "sky" and "admin"
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No, proxy set-up as the device was bought unbranded in US.
Because there are issues with this router, encryption and media streaming devices, I have only restricted the mac addresses with no encryption.
Still don't know about the 169. ip address beacuse doesn't seem to come up as am ISP.
Now then, how wierd is this?
After all these issues and kind of giving up on it as a bad job, I also noticed that out on the road, my GPRS wasn't working either - TomTom couldn't connect to the "plus" traffic service.
I get on the phone to O2 who told me that my phone hadn't been "provisioned". After one false start where they didn't seem to do anything about it, I have just (literally) had them tell me to go to the O2 Operator settings and tell it to update the "O2 UK Post Pay_GPRS" and reboot.
GPRS now works. And magically, so does my WiFi - IP address negotiated and full access to internet and my router's setup page granted. Working like a charm again.
So - seems to me it's an account setting, and nothing to do with either me poor ol' router or me nice new phone.
For completeness, I was occasionally getting the 169 IP address too, so it sounds like we have EXACTLY the same problem - suggest you get onto your service provider ASAP.
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I'm currently running wm5 ivan w/rd
i keep having this problem where i try to connect to a network, and it connects, but i can't do anything.
When i open up my ipconfig it shows the network ip address as 169.254.x.x where x is always something different. My router shows the mac address on the network but it's unreachable.
Does anyone have any idea where this ip is coming from? I've tried different radio versions, and it happens so far with 1.1.13 and 1.1.15 on both wm5 AND wm3.
169.254.xxx.xxx is a class of ip addresses set automatically to a device, when this can't connect the dhcp server. is a reserved network.
if your router is set as dhcp server, you must verify the link connection with pda. else you must configure the correct ip address manually to the pda.
download and run vxIPconfig and use that to release and renew a new IP from the DHCP server
Nine times out of ten this is caused by bad encryption settings. If you put in the wrong WEP key for example this is what you would see. You don't get error messages when it's wrong, which is kind-of by design and desirable for security reasons.
I'm downloading vxipconfig right now. I did a search last night and was reminded of 169.254.x.x coming up on machines when winsock is corrupt.
Another web site said something about how a pda will connect to the first computer with activesync through wifi under this ip address and try to sync, and then it will get a normal ip address. I don't know if this is true with this device.
@closer what do you mean verify the link connection? The router shows the pda's ip address in it's connection manager, but for any computer or pda i don't know a way to "verify the link" other than look at it. There's no command for this. The router is set up to correctly assign dhcp as i have 2 computers and 2 xbox's connected through lines, and 2 computers through wifi. I know i can manualy set the ip, which i often do for everything but the laptop, but this is a pain in the ass to try and find out the gateway of every single router when i'm out in town. That's a workaround, not a fix.
@Black6spdz I was using Myipconfig and it would release and renew to just a different 169.254.x.x. I'm going to try vxipconfig when this happens again.
--Well, last night i got pissed and abandoned working on it. Low and behold when i wake up today it's working fine and has the correct ip address. That sucks, because now i have no idea what was wrong.
so...
-It's time to go connect to some other networks and see if it resolves correctly.
-Then i'm going to go through the 3 different radio versions and see how they affect it.
when I had that problem it was because my settings were set up incorrectly.. If i were to use gprs, it'd work fine. But wifi would not. So i had to make a seperate setting with generic entries and not set up proxies. then wifi would work. sort of a pain. but it would work...
how much time does your kaiser takes to connects to the wifi?? mine takes a hell lot of time sometimes 5 mins even.....i can see in my router logs these 3 points only :
1) Wireless PC connected
2) authenticating.....
3) authentication success
but there is no dhcp lease ip for a long time. I upgraded my router firmware as well....it doesnt take so much time for my laptops (3 of them) what am i missing? any special config i have to do ? or is it possible to se the debug logs for my kaiser so i can try to find out the root cause?
My kaiser takes about 10-15 seconds with my Linksys WRT54G using WPA-TKIP. I'm running the stock HTC ROM and have nothing special setup.
4 seconds
no WEP
mac address filter: only allow selected mac addresses
After really looking at this, like the below user says, it takes less than 5 seconds with WPA-TKIP and MAC filtering. 5 minutes is excessively long, but unfortuntaly it seems that you've done everything I can think of. Hope you can find a fix!
Do you have the WiFiRouter installed? It may be falsely trying to connect to itself.
yes i have the dlink Dl 524.....it works fine with other laptops and even my kaiser gets connected to it...but it take a hell lot of time.....
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yes i have the dlink Dl 524.....it works fine with other laptops and even my kaiser gets connected to it...but it take a hell lot of time.....
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I think Nick meant, do you have WMWiFirouter installed on your kaiser (the app by Chainfire) as the kaiser may be trying to connect to itself.
One other thing, is your SSID on the router 'Hidden'? If you have not selected the box for hidden network on Wireless connection (when you set it up on the kaiser) it can bit 'Hit n Miss' to get a connection.
just config the router to do mac filtering. Theres practically no authenticating step, it just goes like this:
1)This device is trying to connect, does it match the mac addresses owner provided?
if no -> user cannot connect
if yes-> user connects
// this is assuming you click the option "allow selected devices..."
only bad thing about mac filtering is that if you have a new device that making a new mac key for it is a nuisance.
otherwise, you can forget all those security keys!
*btw* if router signal is roughly below 20% it may take a while to connect, you may want to use 3rd party wifi managers like wififofum.
nothing works...i gets the same problem ...it takes a hell lot of time to connect.....is there any 3rd party software which can help me connecting to the network. I have noticed that it gives me the wrong signal strength as well.....sitting just next to the router it gives shows 60-70% signal strength. i dont have wifirouter app installed. I have tried the mac filtering as well but didnt help. my network is broadcasting the ssid and is not hidden.....and i am hating this. my friend wanted my kaiser to connect to his network so he could browse but it never got connected and i felt ashamed of this ~500 pound phone ......
did you try changing the power mode to best performance?
Mine takes 7 seconds to connect every single time. Thomson speedtouch from be broadband.Wep encryption.
ekw said:
just config the router to do mac filtering. Theres practically no authenticating step, it just goes like this:
1)This device is trying to connect, does it match the mac addresses owner provided?
if no -> user cannot connect
if yes-> user connects
// this is assuming you click the option "allow selected devices..."
only bad thing about mac filtering is that if you have a new device that making a new mac key for it is a nuisance.
otherwise, you can forget all those security keys!
*btw* if router signal is roughly below 20% it may take a while to connect, you may want to use 3rd party wifi managers like wififofum.
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It should probably be noted that this isn't a very secure method. But if you're not worried about your traffic being sniffed or someone cloning your MAC and getting on your network. Go for it!
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It should probably be noted that this isn't a very secure method. But if you're not worried about your traffic being sniffed or someone cloning your MAC and getting on your network. Go for it!
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i have tried this as well. sometimes it works. and i have set it to best performance. still no good
It takes 4 seconds for me (with a Linksys AP/Router) with WPA TKIP authentification.
Have you tried different wifi channel ? Have you try "Wififofum" to have some info about you're AP ?
my router is running with channel 11 ....how can i put it in my kaiser? what channel is yours running on?
That is extremely unsecure and not a good idea. A MAC spoof is such a simple thing so others can get right on your network...never mind the fact that all of your data is flying around in plain text.
Some one with a laptop/mac spoof and ettercap will wreck your stuff bad.
ekw said:
just config the router to do mac filtering. Theres practically no authenticating step, it just goes like this:
1)This device is trying to connect, does it match the mac addresses owner provided?
if no -> user cannot connect
if yes-> user connects
// this is assuming you click the option "allow selected devices..."
only bad thing about mac filtering is that if you have a new device that making a new mac key for it is a nuisance.
otherwise, you can forget all those security keys!
*btw* if router signal is roughly below 20% it may take a while to connect, you may want to use 3rd party wifi managers like wififofum.
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laakness said:
That is extremely unsecure and not a good idea. A MAC spoof is such a simple thing so others can get right on your network...never mind the fact that all of your data is flying around in plain text.
Some one with a laptop/mac spoof and ettercap will wreck your stuff bad.
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but atleast it should work...
If only we could all think like that
I use WRT54G running DD-WRT (custom linux firmware wich is a bit more stable than the original linksys fw) with WPA2-PERSONAL (AES) and it takes about 4 sec to connect. I live on 4th floor and the router is on 3rd floor.
TyTN II manufactured in oct07, original ROM.
Hi.
I recently bought my s730. Quite pleased with it, but one thing bothers me.
When i connect to my wlan at home (zyxel_2602hw_d1a WPA-PSK TKIP) i'm able to connect to the router, but I don't seem to be able to get an connection to anywhere outside my own network. I tried using Live Messenger, IE, Opera and Skype, but nothing happens.
When I'm using GPRS or EDGE it all works smoothly.
Any suggestions?
Do you have your connection set to automatic or only through your phone network? I have seen a few problems with that.
Also, double check that you are entering wep or any other security protocol correctly, took my 6 tries before it would work, it looked like it was connected to the network but it really wasnt (just personal experience with this phone.)
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Do you have your connection set to automatic or only through your phone network? I have seen a few problems with that.
Also, double check that you are entering wep or any other security protocol correctly, took my 6 tries before it would work, it looked like it was connected to the network but it really wasnt (just personal experience with this phone.)
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I do have the connection settings in both IE and Opera set to automatic. I's there somewhere else I have to change settings?
I'm quite sure i typed the password correctly. I also checked the client list on the router and the phone showed up correctly.
Gah, cant remember where I saw it but there was a setting in the phone itself for what to connect to.
Another thing to try under the wifi connection open your saved connection and go into it and see if you have it set to connect to the internet or just to the private network under "network type" in the Wi-Fi sub menu of Wlan settings. Its late and I cant think right, i'll see about checking more into it later...
I solved this problem - change your WLAN security on your WLAN router only on exactly MAC adressee (no any WEP) and your Wings is allowed to connect and all will be OK, work OK - Skype, IE, Opera. Problem was only to find MAC adressee my Wings
Wing + WRT54GL
Hi!
I have an S730 and a Linksys WRT54GL router. I've tried to use wlan with my phone, but it doesn't working. I want to use WPA2 with AES without Radius. Is the WPA shared key (router) same to network key(phone)? without security and encryption, it's working well.. I cannot see any syslog. That could be so easy..
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I solved this problem - change your WLAN security on your WLAN router only on exactly MAC adressee (no any WEP) and your Wings is allowed to connect and all will be OK, work OK - Skype, IE, Opera. Problem was only to find MAC adressee my Wings
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I tried removing security for my phone MAC address, but there dosn't seem to be any options on my router allowing this. So I'm still stuck;-/
ksga said:
Hi.
I recently bought my s730. Quite pleased with it, but one thing bothers me.
When i connect to my wlan at home (zyxel_2602hw_d1a WPA-PSK TKIP) i'm able to connect to the router, but I don't seem to be able to get an connection to anywhere outside my own network. I tried using Live Messenger, IE, Opera and Skype, but nothing happens.
When I'm using GPRS or EDGE it all works smoothly.
Any suggestions?
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Did you check network settings? I mean e.g. if you don't use DHCP server and you didn't fill in right settings phone may connect to network but may not get outside. I know it can look like "lame" question, but sometimes even a master can do a newbie mistake..
ksga said:
I tried removing security for my phone MAC address, but there dosn't seem to be any options on my router allowing this. So I'm still stuck;-/
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usually it is in section WLAN Advanced setup - WEP Encryption - disable and in WLAN MAC Filters - active + allow asotiation with table of adress your Wings - aply . I have Zyxel Prestige 660HW.
I'm sure that DHCP is active, and that I get an IP.
I tried disabling security on my router, but same problem. Connects to my router, gets an IP but still nothing works
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I'm sure that DHCP is active, and that I get an IP.
I tried disabling security on my router, but same problem. Connects to my router, gets an IP but still nothing works
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Your DNS are also provided automatically? Or could you ping (through some app) to any IP address of any server on the internet? If you succee, then we can look for a mistake with DNS.
Problem solved!!!
Okay. Found the cause for all my sufferings...
Power management. under WLAN-settings i changed power setting from power save mode to best performance...
thanks for all the help. hope next time I have a better question
wifi problem
hello everybody,i have tried several times to connect to my router at home but no chance at the end i got this warning saying:
cannot log on to the wireless network this network requires a personel certificate to positively identify you.
hi everyone, i have some problems with the wireless function of my kaiser.
yesterday i tried scanning for wireless networks in my Uni and though I can detect wireless networks I couldn't connect to it at all.
i am not sure whether the set i bought has problems with the wireless networks.
On the Wireless Lan, somehow SSID , bssid tx and rx rates dont appear, despite clicking on change network and selecting on the correct network.
it says it is connecting then changes back to available without giving any error messages.
going back to WL, status is 'unconnected'
ip is 0.0.0.0.
When I try clicking on renew IP, nothing happens. the IP remains as 0000
under LEAP, the correct SSID and authentication type is displayed.
but when i try to enroll, enter my user id and password (Server is my ssid ?) and retrieve certificate it tells me that i am unable to do so.
How can I use it to connect to Uni network?
Is this server name the ssid ?
Is it a Cisco access point ? If it is for some reason youwon't be able to connect. I have the same problem as well
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Is it a Cisco access point ? If it is for some reason youwon't be able to connect. I have the same problem as well
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possible. i mean the it helpdesk runs the place like a military camp. doesnt tell us anything.
using a cisco vpn client though.
anyway i tried something by accident. i didnt bother reinstalling vpn client or the login software or attempt to connect to detected networks. simply tried connecting to the sch's intranet. somehow, it worked. though i didnt venture pass the homepage
I had the same issue
I hade exactly the same issue with the Cisco router we have here in my office.
Originally I thought it was my HTC Wizard as it would find the SSID but not log on, it would report it as unavailable.
I changed over to the TyTN II and exactly the same problem.....
However I have resovled this issue and I now connect semlessly to our metwork.
Basically I flashed my TyTN II (which was an O2 Stellar when I bought it from the UK) to the HTC shipped WM6 ROM and it connected straight away with no need to setup the wifi settings.
It may have had something to do with the fact I had to HardSPL it first and that sorted it our or just replacing the ROM.
Having only had this phone for a week I was a little nervous flashing but as long as you follow the very easy instructions it is fool proof.
I hope that helps.
I have similar problem with my Kaiser, can I ask which ROM/Radio you flashed and a possible link to the files ?
I'm on T-Mobile in the UK although the phone is an HTC Sim free handset
Rom 1.56.405.5
Radio 1.27.12.32
The phone went away for repair at HTC in the UK, it came back with a new ROM installed and since then I've not manged to get it to connect to my wireless router
It worked yesterday but now won't. If I enter proxy settings into orangeinternet acp the same as orangewap then it works for http traffic but not email.
I have done a lot of setting up on the phone since it arrived yesterday but I can't think what I can have altered in the gprs settings.
I had the same issue with my Touch Cruise on the newer ROMs and it went away when I reverted to the official HTC Cruise 6.1 ROM.
Any ideas anyone?
You could always try running the network setup wizard again?
You could always try running the network setup wizard again?
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I tried that several times - it doesn't work. I think it must be a screwed setting from setting up something like exchange server in activesync.
Everything works under wifi.
I am really hoping I don't have to do a hard reset and start all over again.
Try putting a different operator's sim in and let it set everything up for it, then put your orange sim back in and go through the auto setup again. If that doesn't work then a hardreset might be your only option. Going from your other posts in the themes, applications and software it looks like your phone is really playing up so a hardreset might be best all round, only install one thing at a time and test everything after every install and customisation until you find out what you're doing to break it, then don't do that step again.
Have you messed around at all under the network advanced options where you set things like HSDPA etc
Thanks for all the replies. I've ended up hard resetting and re-customising one thing at a time.
The thing that breaks it seems to be when I change the wifi settings. I have a non-standard wireless network at home and I have to specifiy the IP address and default gateway in the "network adaptors" settings for wifi. Once I access the network with these settings it breaks the cellular data connection!
Like I said earlier, my Cruise did this as well with the later ROM such as Udk's and C_Shekhar's. When I went back to the official HTC 6.1 ROM everything worked fine.
I have now reverted my wireless settings to standard (i.e. DHCP) and it has restored the cellular connection but, obviously the wifi doesn't work.
If I can't sort this I'll have to rethink my home network.
Sounds like you're using set IP addresses on your home network for port forwarding or something of that nature. Have another look in your router's settings as most decent ones will allow you to reserve IPs from the DHCP range for specific MAC addresses, that way when the computers or other devices ask for an IP they get given the same one every time. Things really do work much more smoothly as far as networking goes when DHCP is working. If you really do need to specify IP addresses manually then just let the router hand out addresses by DCHP from a restricted range, e.g. if you manually specify addresses from 192.168.1.2 to 192.168.1.10 then set the start address for DHCP to 192.168.1.11.
Thanks, shuflie. It's actually to do with the default gateway. I have an orange livebox doing the adsl work so I can plug a telephone in to it to get free calls. However, the wireless is useless on the livebox so I have a netgear wireless router on the network as well. The trouble is, DHCP won't work that way so I have to set each wireless device up with a dedicated IP address and direct it to the livebox as the gateway.
For some unknown reason, this breaks cellular data on winmo devices.
Anyway, until I find a solution I have removed the orange livebox from my system. I'll just have to live without the broadband phonecalls which is no big deal tbh.
I actually run a non standard network here too, a SKY ADSL router to provide the broadband access and a Netgear router which all my computers attach to. Both router are set up as DCHP servers, but the SKY box only gives out an address to the Netgear router, the Netgear hands out the IP addresses for everything else. The only drawback I've seen so far is that it seems impossible to initiate a connection from the outside world to any of the computers on my network because of the dual NAT that is happening, but that isn't necessarily a bad thing as it makes it harder to hack in from outside. I don't have to point the computer and other devices to the SKY box as the gateway, I just let the Netgear router think that the connection it is getting from the SKY box is a direct connection to the outside world. Everything seems to work just fine, no problems with network gaming on the playstation network and torrents, skype, web etc. seem to work just fine. If you can't live without the broadband calls you could give it a go.
Should have said that the SKY and Netgear routers are on different subnets, 192.168.0.x for the SKY and 192.168.1.x for the netgear.