PLEASE HELP!!! Wont Boot - Red/Green/Blue Screen - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

Im really really hoping that someone can help me here
It started this morning around 10:00 or so - I took my phone out to check my messages, everything is working fine. I lock the phone and put it standby (power button) and *surprise*, it locks up and wont come out of standby
So i just re-set it (like im forced to do 20 times a day) and instead of booting it went straight to this red/green/blue screen. At the bottom of the screen it just says "Serial" but doesn't actually give a serial.
I instantly thought it was bricked, so i removed the battery and left it out for a few mins. Then i put the batt back in, and it booted normally. I used it throughout the day with no problems.
Fast forward a few hours and it does it again but now it wont boot at all (ive reset the thing like 100000 times in the last hour ive been working on it).
WTF is going on?? Im really really hoping that it isnt too screwed to fix
The last program I installed was the SPB pack, but that was over a month ago, and i use the phone every day, multiple times a day.
Oh, and to make things worse i was planning on relying on my TomTom tomorrow

and the text on that screen says:
Kais1*0
SPL-1.56.0000
CPLID-8
And at the bottom it just says "Serial" but none is given.
This blows

Have you recently tried to flash your phone? Have you ever? If you never have flashed it or attempted to use Olipof's app, then take it to the store and demand a new one.

Do you see "USB" instead of "Serial" if you connect your sync cable to your phone when in the bootloader?
If so, I would download the latest carrier-branded rom and flash it to your device. As long as the rom is designed for your device, then you do not need to do anything special prior to running the file from your PC.

grandpareza said:
Have you recently tried to flash your phone? Have you ever? If you never have flashed it or attempted to use Olipof's app, then take it to the store and demand a new one.
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I have never flashed it but i have spilled water near it (on the counter, the phone got wet but that was months ago and has no relation to this).
Can they check if it has been wet before?
When i plug it into my computer it says USB instead of serial. Should I try to re-flash with an updated rom and see if it fixes it or just take it in?

If you find me on MSN IM ([email protected]) we can run a diagnostic & see what the problem is.

GSLEON3 said:
If you find me on MSN IM ([email protected]) we can run a diagnostic & see what the problem is.
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Thanks, ill give you a buzz.
I need to finish and email a few things first (shouldnt take more than 30mins).

Actually, ill just message you tomorrow or something.
Ive been really busy this week.

well did you get it fixed? what did you do?

Yikes, that happened to a friend of mine, but he flashed his and then had to reflash it. I think there is a place on the back under the battery that they use to tell if it's been wet. I would take it back, even if flashing it fixes it, you don't want it to happen again.
oh and it doesn't mean serial like a serial number, it is a serial connection.

I havent been able to get it fixed.
I think ill try to flash it this weekend and see if that fixes it

You'll only make problems worse if you reflash. I've analyzed the MTTY output you've sent me & you have a bad NAND storage blocks.
You need to follow the directions I sent to your email account via MSN IM.
DO NOT REFLASH UNTIL YOU'VE TAKEN CARE OF THE BAD BLOCKS!!!

this happened to me and someone else in XDA a while back. I saw his thread (link below) and then PMed him. I will copy / paste our PMs:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=344402
jackjohnson said:
dockular said:
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dockular said:
Sup Jack, my Tilt is doing the
Kais1*0
spl-1.56.0000
cpld-8
Serial
problem that you had talked about. I read that huge thread, lots of great info in there. Although its unfortunate what happened to you, I'm really grateful of all the troubleshooting that you've done before me, so I know what works and what doesn't. Interesting to note that I have had the Tilt since the day it came out, and never cooked/ flashed my rom. I have been using the Tilt rom the whole time with no problems. Otherwise I'm a huge power user and have a ridiculous amt of software installed.
So after everything was all said and done, did you end up just replacing the device? Thanks again man
-Anthony
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Anthony,
Yea I went ahead and replaced it. No matter what I did to reflash the original bootloader, and flash the original rom, I always ended up with that same problem. Did you notice that if you can't get it out of the bootloader, but you connect it to your computer, and while it's connect, you soft reset, that it boots? Just curious. that's what happened to me. Either that or I would have to yank the sim and battery, then try.
My tilt was working fine for about a month with a flashed rom, up until I started installing gobs of software on it. Just a thought. If I were you, I would get the device replaced. Especially if you've never flashed a new rom on it - it definitely should not be doing that.
Scott
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My computer has been broken for a month or two. To answer your question - I haven't been connecting it to anything other than an AC outlet. Anything installed in the last couple months was installed OTA... I usually just obtain a CAB by downloading it directly onto my device.
Also, its weird but sometimes after I drain the batter with the RGB screen then recharge it (this process takes about a day) then hit the reset button, it will actually boot correctly. I am on the third time this has happened. It was bricked for a couple days, then after a combination of charging / depleting got it to boot into windows. Then it happened again, then again.
As long as I don't restart the phone it will stay in windows... If I restart then I lose it for a day or so. Interesting to note that since this has happened, phone calls connect, but I can't hear the other party and they can't hear me.
Also, I use the mini usb out to a 3.5mm stereo jack to stream shoutcast into my car stereo while driving. Last week (at the onset of my problem) the music was playing from the Tilt's speakerphone, and not going through the headphone jack as it normally would. A restart fixed this, but when it happened again a day or so later, the next restart is what got me to that boot screen for the first time.
One of us should post this in the forum...
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And just an update, I never sent back my phone or did anything as far as bad blocks go. I just let the battery drain and booted it right up and now it works perfect. I have since installed a few cooked rooms and radios and have had no issues since. This RGB screen was isolated to just those few days that we were talking about in the PMs.
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dockular said:
this happened to me and someone else in XDA a while back. I saw his thread (link below) and then PMed him. I will copy / paste our PMs:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=344402
jackjohnson said:
And just an update, I never sent back my phone or did anything as far as bad blocks go. I just let the battery drain and booted it right up and now it works perfect. I have since installed a few cooked rooms and radios and have had no issues since. This RGB screen was isolated to just those few days that we were talking about in the PMs.
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Umm... GOOD FOR YOU!!!
I had him perform a diagnostic & it reported HE HAS A BAD BLOCK! So unless you're psychic or can be sure that every problem with Boot Loader is the same as the one you had, I suggest sticking to what you know.
BTW, search the CURRENT threads, in the KAISER forum, & you'll see I've helped a few dozen people with this & similar issues.
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dude i wasn't telling him to not follow your advice. was just letting him know my story. as a matter of fact, after reading your original post I have decided to check for bad blocks on my phone.

GSLEON3;2021681
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Umm... GOOD FOR YOU!!![/B]
I had him perform a diagnostic & it reported HE HAS A BAD BLOCK! So unless you're psychic or can be sure that every problem with Boot Loader is the same as the one you had, I suggest sticking to what you know.
BTW, search the CURRENT threads, in the KAISER forum, & you'll see I've helped a few dozen people with this & similar issues.
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Well, this has happened to one of our phones. Can you just post the fix here instead of requiring the email/IM rotuine?

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Frozen Kaiser

Hi all. I seem to have the same recuuring issue at least twice a day with my kaiser.
For no apparant reason it keeps freezing on me, and each time always displays the same fuzzy graphics on the title bar (see attachment).
Has anybody come accross this issue? What shall I do?
Thanks in advance.
new rom =\...master reset..idk
Novice Gadget Boy said:
Hi all. I seem to have the same recuuring issue at least twice a day with my kaiser.
For no apparant reason it keeps freezing on me, and each time always displays the same fuzzy graphics on the title bar (see attachment).
Has anybody come accross this issue? What shall I do?
Thanks in advance.
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Do you have a custom rom or a stock rom?
What rom are you using?
What radio are you using?
Can you tell us the available memory you have?
Do you have a task manager installed, and are you making sure everything is closed prior to opening new programs?
That information will be helpful in figuring out what's going on. Let us know, thanks! =)
If you don't have one of the newer custom roms, you're pretty much guaranteed to get an answer of "install hardspl / new radio / rom".
If you have a stock rom from HTC... you're gonna hear "reflash the phone with the stock rom, and if it still does it.. return the phone, or flash it with a custom one".
How much warranty do you have left?
Can you also give us a list of what programs you have installed, and which ones are usually running?
Pictures part 1
Thanks for the quick response. There are a lot of questions so i took a bunch of screen shots. Hope this helps. Let me know if you need anymore detail.
See second post as i am unable to post all pics in one post.
Thankyou
Pictures part 2
I am also running battibar in the background.
Well, from what i gather from the screenshots you posted everything should be working fine. There's no reason it should be freezing up, unless there is some sort of conflict, or corrupt program.
Have you noticed that it happens after opening a certain program, or is it really random?
Oh, I take it that's a stock rom right? You never flashed the phone, you just installed individual cab files, right?
nimda0 said:
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....Have you noticed that it happens after opening a certain program, or is it really random?
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It seems to be random but then on the other hand ive noticed that it usually happens when its been sitting on the charger and idle (for example, i'll pop it on the charger before bed, and when i wake up in the morning its frozen). Also it happens at work when its connected to my pc via activesync and after i havent been doing anything for a while.
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Oh, I take it that's a stock rom right? You never flashed the phone, you just installed individual cab files, right?
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Yes, thats correct.
Novice Gadget Boy said:
It seems to be random but then on the other hand ive noticed that it usually happens when its been sitting on the charger and idle (for example, i'll pop it on the charger before bed, and when i wake up in the morning its frozen). Also it happens at work when its connected to my pc via activesync and after i havent been doing anything for a while.
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Well... it could be overheating. If that's the case it's gotta go back. How much warranty do you have left on the phone before it ends?
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Yes, thats correct.
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Well, just like I posted above. Everything seems fine... and since you are using the stock rom you only have a few choices. You can start uninstalling programs 1 by 1... (noting which ones you uninstall so you can put them back on). Go 1/2 a day, and see if you still have the problem after uninstalling each program. That will help narrow down the theory about corrupt programs or conflicts.
Another option, is reloading the stock rom from HTC... and don't install anything. See how that works for a day... if it's fine, then you can start installing programs.... then if the problem occurs, you know it's got to be something with one of the program you've put on there.
Then you could always just uninstall everything, reset everything, and send it back and get a new phone.... but if it's the software causing the issue, and you put the same software back on the new phone.. you'll just be right back in the same situation again.
If you have warranty time left, i'd uninstall everything, and demand a new phone because of teh issues you are having. Onec you get it, then i'd flash with a custom rom... just make sure you do it right. =)
EDIT: Hell even if you don't have any warranty left, i'd STILL flash with a custom rom. I can't even begin to tell you how much better my phone runs now that it's flashed compared to before. I was using the stock ROM before from HTC, i had some issues... it was a bit laggy... so i reflashed with the stock rom, limited the software i put on it.. etc. etc.... still ran like dog piss... so i flashed, and well..... you get the picture. It's awesome now.
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Well... it could be overheating. If that's the case it's gotta go back. How much warranty do you have left on the phone before it ends?
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10 months. But i dont feel any heat whatsoever, and the other day i was using it at work all day connected via activesync and it didnt freeze up. its only when i leave it idle on the charger.... Last weekend i kept getting messages from friends all during the night while it was on the charger (i was reading messages) and it didnt freeze.
So if it's sitting still for a long time without activity.. it freezes. Hmm... well i could give you a dozen things to try, but they'd just be bandaid fixes anyway. If it's freezing something isnt right.
Read my first post on page 2 of this thread you started and that should give you your options. FLASH!!

Charging but led blinking

I have my Kaiser upgraded from Abusalza ROM v7 to v10.
It works like a charm and I'm loving it so far until now.
The battery is dead and when I plugged in either usb charger or power charger, the notification led lit up solid orange/amber like it supposed to and then it blinks.
I checked and later found my phone isn't charging at all. Is this related to bad battery or is it because of incompatible radio?
Oh, and when I tried to switch on the device it just hang. Perhaps it doesn't have enough juice to boot up.
Anyone got same problem with me? Please advice how to fix this.
Thanks.
If you have already cleaned the battery terminals, I would suppose it is new battery time.
Well, I was sort of having a problem similar to this running the same ROM series. For me though, the notification LED would blink, even if it wasn't plugged in and there were no notifications. I would also get it when plugged in at times. This was intermittent, since it would randomly happen for some unknown reason. To fix it, I just killed all running programs, and reset the phone once or twice and it went away.
For you, if the ROM worked fine before, but isn't working now, a bad radio would not cause your problem. An incompatible radio would have caused you boot up problems and such from the moment you flashed, not later on. Don't know exactly what to tell you, except try a new battery. Get back to us after, and if it doesn't work, we can figure something else out. Hope your problem gets resolved by the battery.
Tilt Fanatic said:
Well, I was sort of having a problem similar to this running the same ROM series. For me though, the notification LED would blink, even if it wasn't plugged in and there were no notifications. I would also get it when plugged in at times. This was intermittent, since it would randomly happen for some unknown reason. To fix it, I just killed all running programs, and reset the phone once or twice and it went away.
For you, if the ROM worked fine before, but isn't working now, a bad radio would not cause your problem. An incompatible radio would have caused you boot up problems and such from the moment you flashed, not later on. Don't know exactly what to tell you, except try a new battery. Get back to us after, and if it doesn't work, we can figure something else out. Hope your problem gets resolved by the battery.
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Keep in mind that my phone is currently out of juice i.e. dead.
So, supposedly by plugging in the charger I can restore the battery but in this case that didn't happen.
I guess I would better off go to the shop where I bought the battery and ask a replacement. The battery was new and not even 1 months old.
I will keep you posted. Thanks for the advice guys.
Does the LED light up still, even with the battery dead? If so, wait about 20 min for it to recharge, even though I am assuming you have already done this. If it is completely drained, it most likely won't power back until it has enough power to do so on it's own, even with the charger connected.
Tilt Fanatic said:
Does the LED light up still, even with the battery dead? If so, wait about 20 min for it to recharge, even though I am assuming you have already done this. If it is completely drained, it most likely won't power back until it has enough power to do so on it's own, even with the charger connected.
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At first it blinking and then I pulled out the battery and reinsert it into the phone. Now it lit amber light and then in few minutes turned green. Tried to switch it on and the screen loading fine until at one time it show loading icon and then shutdown.
You assumed it right though, I've been letting the phone connected to the charger since last night and still no juice pumped into the battery I presume as I can't turn it on.
I agree with WillardZ
nyunyu said:
I guess I would better off go to the shop where I bought the battery and ask a replacement. The battery was new and not even 1 months old.
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There's a technical term for items which fail very early on called infant mortality - this may be whats happened. See how it goes with a battery swapped in the shop. If you can get it to work by putting in a fully charged, known good battery but the recharging function doesn't work (or you get a flashing red light after a few minutes again), also try cleaning the spring terminals with IPA or contact cleaner applied using cotton buds. If that still doesn't work but you can boot the device into windows (with the shop borrowed battery), perform a hard reset before the battery goes flat/below 50 % and test again.
okay, I found my other battery which is I know work fine and put it in the device.
I charge it to full and now turning the device on.
While loading the touchflo, the loading icon just hang and I can't do anything.
Nothing works except sleep button.
Can you advice me how to reset this thing?
I know that battery isn't the problem here and I can't seems to do anything since it hung on me.
Oh, I tried turning the phone on without SIM and memory card and still hung.
nyunyu said:
okay, I found my other battery which is I know work fine and put it in the device.
I charge it to full and now turning the device on.
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hmmm, wonder why you didn't try that at the first hint of a suggestion it's a dodgy battery
While loading the touchflo, the loading icon just hang and I can't do anything.
Nothing works except sleep button.
Can you advice me how to reset this thing?
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I can but it'll encourage others to ask without searching first and given there's already a wiki here that covers Kaiser Resets perfectly well (and the Kaiser users manual that comes with the device - let me guess, you don't have that), you'll need to read the wiki and help yourself.
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hmmm, wonder why you didn't try that at the first hint of a suggestion it's a dodgy battery
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Not to sound rude but I did said that I 'found' my other battery which is previously misplaced whereas I said earlier I'm going to get a replacement for the dead battery.
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I can but it'll encourage others to ask without searching first and given there's already a wiki here that covers Kaiser Resets perfectly well (and the Kaiser users manual that comes with the device - let me guess, you don't have that), you'll need to read the wiki and help yourself.
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There is an instruction of how to reset the kaiser but is there a way to reset it while it is OFF or HANG?
I honestly apologies if I sound like I asked question without searching first but I honestly did not found what I'm looking for. The pda is still hang no matter how many times I restart it and I'm out of idea.
nyunyu said:
Not to sound rude but I did said that I 'found' my other battery which is previously misplaced whereas I said earlier I'm going to get a replacement for the dead battery.
There is an instruction of how to reset the kaiser but is there a way to reset it while it is OFF or HANG?
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duuuuudddeee....the page you linked to above describes a way to do a HARD RESET for your EXACT requirement...read it again.
also, if it is OFF to begin with, then powering it up (even if it hangs ultimately) is equivalent to a SOFT RESET. if it doesn't complete startup and always hangs, then a HARD RESET is the way to go.
I honestly apologies if I sound like I asked question without searching first but I honestly did not found what I'm looking for. The pda is still hang no matter how many times I restart it and I'm out of idea.
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and if by "reset it", you mean "flash a new ROM", you can search for that also and you'll find plenty of guides and tutorials and FAQs...but go one step at a time and do a hard reset first (remember, you will lose all data and non-default programs after the hard reset).
ASCIIker said:
duuuuudddeee....the page you linked to above describes a way to do a HARD RESET for your EXACT requirement...read it again.
also, if it is OFF to begin with, then powering it up (even if it hangs ultimately) is equivalent to a SOFT RESET. if it doesn't complete startup and always hangs, then a HARD RESET is the way to go.
and if by "reset it", you mean "flash a new ROM", you can search for that also and you'll find plenty of guides and tutorials and FAQs...but go one step at a time and do a hard reset first (remember, you will lose all data and non-default programs after the hard reset).
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Thanks!
I just noticed the part where it says power+camera+stylus.
Appreciate that a lot.
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I just noticed the part where it says power+camera+stylus.
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You've found the right section but just the hard reset section will be applicable. You don't need the bootscreen (which is what that button combination is all about), just a hard reset (making sure the battery has a decent charge of at least 50% before starting).
Thank you for all the help.
I've managed to reset my phone back to OEM and then flash 3.34 hardspl and radio and abusalza v10. Looks like it back functioning.
Will monitor it to see what could be wrong in these few days.

[Q] Does your HD7 freeze as much as mine?

I just got mine, even flashed the ROM for mine (T Mobile) and this phone freezes almost literally every 5 minutes and programs freeze a lot and won't allow me to open any other programs and I'm just curious if this is common with other people? I cannot use this phone at all for daily use unless I ONLY use it for texting and not open or use any other programs .
why did you flash it? :S
Mine actually works really nicely, and after changing my polling to 30 minutes instead of as items arrive, i get a completely full day of hard use out of mine...why did you flash it?
Moved to General
Well if you flashed anything theres your answer
You can flash HD 7 ??? never knew it lol what did you flash it with...
I do get a bit of lag now and then if i open too many programs, but not that bad
must say MS has done a good job of winmo 7 hope the updates come soon though
What ROM? How did you flash? Where did you buy the device.
This is the FIRST device I am using with MS OS on it, that actually did not freeze on me at all. The WP7 on my HD7 is fluid, fast and stable. Not a single freeze or hangup. Of course if you are talking about loading of apps like Twitter and Facebook, well, they take time to update and thats an App issue. Not th OS issue.
I think there is something seriously wrong with your device or what you have done with it. Better call up the customer care and get a replacement.
Not even one freeze in 8 days
I flashed the official TMOUS ROM that's been posted in these forums, and nah I mean it way freezes like every 5 minutes... guess I'm the only one with the problem then ? Even factory resetting it still freezes then reboots like every 5-10 minutes... man this sucks, and the phone is so fluid though...
I do mean it freezes/reboots A LOT!
Is there any way I can get a replacement even though I bought it off a friend? (practically straight up brand new) Like lie or something to T-Mobile and say I got it off some smaller T-Mobile dealer? The phone is scratchless and scuff free.
Or any suggestions?
Is it possible that it's a hardware issue? I don't think it could be though...?
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I flashed the official TMOUS ROM that's been posted in these forums, and nah I mean it way freezes like every 5 minutes... guess I'm the only one with the problem then ? Even factory resetting it still freezes then reboots like every 5-10 minutes... man this sucks, and the phone is so fluid though...
I do mean it freezes/reboots A LOT!
Is there any way I can get a replacement even though I bought it off a friend? (practically straight up brand new) Like lie or something to T-Mobile and say I got it off some smaller T-Mobile dealer? The phone is scratchless and scuff free.
Or any suggestions?
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T-Mobile has a 14 day return policy, and if your friend purchased it on contract (new line, or as a upgrade), then only he can return it as he will be asked for proper ID in order to identify himself as an authorized person the account.
If he bought it outright (full price) and gave you the receipt, you should be able to go back to the same store and return it and get a new.
Either way, I'd say return it and get a new one. And however you flashed it, don't. Its perfect out of the box. Not once has the phone froze on me.
Blah guess I just got bad luck , it seems to freeze 90% of the time whenever I start up the HTC Hub and am in it or go to the main screen. But thanks everyone for your input .
you still haven't answered what rom you flashed.
Also, maybe your friend knew it was defective and hosed you.
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you still haven't answered what rom you flashed.
Also, maybe your friend knew it was defective and hosed you.
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he did actually answered on post #9
anyway, does anyone experienced a lockup when using the alarm when the alarm sets off but left alone for a long time? cause i tried using this phone as an alarm but could never wake me up even on full blast volume. so it is left there for hours .. then when i do eventually wake up .. i see the snooze and dismiss buttons up front and when i tried pressing any of the buttons ..the phone doesn't respond.. so i restart the phone and its back to normal.
Ah yeah guess I did get scammed blah. Oh well, **** happens... the one time I did use the alarm it worked for me and woke me up.
But I seriously wonder why it's all super messed up?
Could it be a hardware problem?
Hmm and right when it freezes it automatically enters airplane mode... then stays frozen until I take out the battery.
EDIT: Actually it seems like the HTC Hub makes it freeze 90% of the time and makes other apps not pop up or nothing. Bah! Would like an update (when HTC/Microsoft releases one) fix this problem?
Please, can you tell us, HOW excatly you've flashed a new ROM , because I thought it was actually impossible before someone find a kind of HSPL or something like that for WP7 ????
tenzin said:
Please, can you tell us, HOW excatly you've flashed a new ROM , because I thought it was actually impossible before someone find a kind of HSPL or something like that for WP7 ????
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see developers section...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=783
I flashed mine because of reboot issues too. Mine would reboot and not only that it would hard reset ! After the flash the phone works like a charm. No freezing, no reboots, no hard resets.
Be sure to choose the right one. I don't believe these are upgrades in anyway, just a fresh ROM to install to start from the beginning.
mine hung at the white splash screen / boot screen, so i hard reset (dialled into my memory from HD1 days!) and it was fine. Took the SIM card out later to put into HD1 to write down things to manually move across (cheers MS for no easy option to migrate*), put it back in, frozen again.
Hard reset: still frozen. Doesn't seem like anything i can do - phone seems bricked. Will have to take back - can't find anything on forums. LAME!!!
*option to migrate / set your own ringtones / use swype / send texts, etc, will be available from 2011
OP, have you called htc and reported the problem. It might take them a couple weeks, but they will warranty it for you since you can't take it to t-mobile.
It has to be hardware if it did it before and after flashing.
call htc @ 888-356-2375 (for USA HTC)
If you have an SDCARD in the phone it could be the problem, remove it.

[Q] Boot Loop while charging - no charge

Hello, I've had my G Watch R for not quite a full week so far and I've really enjoyed it. Two days ago, I believe that I let the battery die so I placed it on the charger before going to bed. When I woke in the morning i grabbed the watch off the charger without looking at it. Just before i stepped out the door i noticed that it wasn't waking up and It wouldn't even power on. I ran back and slapped it on the charger thinking that it would be more than charged by lunch time. Thats when i noticed the apparent boot issue you can see in the video attached. It hasn't been dropped at all and I have the basic apps installed; facer, watchmaker etc. At this point, Is there anything that I can try short of sending it back?
I've left it on the charger for 24+ hours, it gets slightly warm and stays in the boot loop. As soon as its taken off the charger it has no visible charge and refuses to respond to anything. I purchased it through amazon, so I'm thinking it shouldn't be an issue for me to return it...
http://youtu.be/GgF3iXAhTTI/
Sorry i tried to embed the video but the youtube link for xda seems to be breaking the url somehow
So I have already initiated the return process with amazon and it should be pretty painless. I have almost 3 weeks to send it back, so if anyone has any tips/tricks or ideas I'm more than open to try them....The watch is 100% stock as far as firmware or root is concerned.
Any luck with this? I just got back an RMA for a broken touch sensor, I don't want to have to RMA it again.
try to see if you can get in to the bootloader, and restart the watch from there
i have notice when i charge the watch from empty (so thewatch boots up while charging) it causes problems, usually boot loops as well
I just watched the video (should've done this before hijacking the thread, sorry) and it seems like I'm having a different issue. Instead, mine does the android boot animation, the goes to "Starting Apps" and counting ("x of y Apps"; the y value seems to be different every time), then "Staring Apps" with no count, then it says "Powering Off" and shuts off. But I will post my experience in case someone else with my issue finds this thread.
I'm back up & running today. I got it into the bootloader last night and put it on the charger before I went to sleep (to avoid battery rundown by bootlooping while it charges). I woke up this morning to it bootlooping again. I'm guessing that it restarted itself sometime during the night. I took it off the charger and let it sit for a while (it was pretty warm, so I figured it would be better to let it cool down before trying anything else). I tried to restart it again after about a half hour, but it still only got to "Starting Apps" before shutting off. I reflashed the stock boot, recovery & system images found here: Stock Boot, Recovery and System for G Watch R . I restarted it and completed the initial pairing process (due to wipe when I unlocked it in order to flash system image) and it is now working.
I don't know if what I did actually fixed anything or if it just decided to start working, but I will post again if something happens again. If you don't see any more replies from me, then all is still OK.
EDIT 6/22/15 9:53 pm EDT: No good, see below.
To workaround the bootloop while charging, you can boot into recovery (swipe 10 to 4 a clock while Logo is shown, select and press okay to recovery), than charge battery for a while, after that, you can boot to as normally to AW-system and charge to fully battery!
You can charge with USB on PC, it's work fine for me.
scidon37 said:
I just watched the video
I don't know if what I did actually fixed anything or if it just decided to start working, but I will post again if something happens again. If you don't see any more replies from me, then all is still OK.
EDIT 6/22/15 9:53 pm EDT: No good, see below.
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So your gwatch r started doing the same thing again? I have the same problem and it won't connect to the computer via fastboot or adb. How did you get on with the RMA? I cant send mine back due to voided warranty. Still hoping for a solution.
Have you tried taking it off the charger and booting it? Also are you running custom software?
bricked watch
atmosphrericks said:
So your gwatch r started doing the same thing again? I have the same problem and it won't connect to the computer via fastboot or adb. How did you get on with the RMA? I cant send mine back due to voided warranty. Still hoping for a solution.
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Ever find a fix for this? I've been searching like mad the last few weeks. :/
biohazard1150 said:
Ever find a fix for this? I've been searching like mad the last few weeks. :/
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So i took off the back plate, and found that the spring contact pins inside the watch weren't making good connections to the connect points on the inside of the back plate. Be careful, they are fragile, but you want to bend them out slightly. If you can source parts, get a new contact pin module.
After this, i was able to connect my watch and flash over stock firmware.
I can't guarantee this is what is happening with yours, but let us know if it does work.
I've scince broken the screen and can't find where to get parts!
atmosphrericks said:
So i took off the back plate, and found that the spring contact pins inside the watch weren't making good connections to the connect points on the inside of the back plate. Be careful, they are fragile, but you want to bend them out slightly. If you can source parts, get a new contact pin module.
After this, i was able to connect my watch and flash over stock firmware.
I can't guarantee this is what is happening with yours, but let us know if it does work.
I've scince broken the screen and can't find where to get parts!
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I still haven't found a fix. My charging works fine, but no PC connection. The bootloader/fastboot wont come up, no logo or anything. I'm sure the EMMC chip is fried, it sounds like many are seeing this issue, some with a black screen and some with a snowy screen. I've had several galaxy phones do the exact same so I'm doubting it can be fixed without going to the manufacturer which mine came from redflagdeals and LG wont service the random online store purchases
I had to take the back off and clean and adjust the contacts that make contact through the back panel. Then I could connect via fastboot.
ouranos2k said:
You can charge with USB on PC, it's work fine for me.
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This solved my problem. As soon as I plugged it into my PC it booted just fine
ouranos2k said:
You can charge with USB on PC, it's work fine for me.
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This works for me too! Thank you!
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[Q] Hard briked S3 mini out of nowhere

I have the feeling I'm going to get repetitive here guys, but I've been reading the troubleshooting threads for over an hour and couldn't find an answer to help me.
Last saturday I was to lazy to move from the couch, so I watched as my S3 Mini ran out of battery. I got the "phone is turning off" screen as usual. Later I went to bed, but as I needed my alarm to go off in the morning I tried turning it on again, and nothing* happened. Plugged it on the wall, nothing*. Replaced the battery, nothing*. Gave it a good half hour plugged, and as you can guess, nothing*.
* when I say nothing, I mean it won't light up, won't vibrate, won't wink for me, won't load any kind of error, it's actually just like if you were trying to turn on a phone without any battery connected, no grasp of life comes from its poor soul.
The only moment I could see some action on the device is when I tried connecting it on the PC a few hours ago, as it installed drivers to Windows. Right after installing the drivers however, it won't show in the file explorer. I've tried to detect it with a few development tools such as ORT and Odin and there was no sucess either. Download or Recover mode will not work as well.
One thing I think worth mentioning, is that ever since I rooted it a couple of years ago, whenever I tried to recharge it while it was off, the standard "green charging battery" would never appear. What would appear on the screen was a freezed loading icon (the one that keeps roling again and again, but frozen). This particular issue never came off, even reseting it or installing new ROMs.
I always used Maclaw's, some of the latest 4.x, because I tought the 5.x was to heavy for the s3 minis.
I've read some about USB JIGs and stuff, but what makes me very curious is what the heck?! The phone was working just fine, the battery runs out and I have a brick? Is this possible? Can anyone tell me any work around?
I apologize for possible grammar mistakes.
ScrewedImei said:
I have the feeling I'm going to get repetitive here guys, but I've been reading the troubleshooting threads for over an hour and couldn't find an answer to help me.
Last saturday I was to lazy to move from the couch, so I watched as my S3 Mini ran out of battery. I got the "phone is turning off" screen as usual. Later I went to bed, but as I needed my alarm to go off in the morning I tried turning it on again, and nothing* happened. Plugged it on the wall, nothing*. Replaced the battery, nothing*. Gave it a good half hour plugged, and as you can guess, nothing*.
* when I say nothing, I mean it won't light up, won't vibrate, won't wink for me, won't load any kind of error, it's actually just like if you were trying to turn on a phone without any battery connected, no grasp of life comes from its poor soul.
The only moment I could see some action on the device is when I tried connecting it on the PC a few hours ago, as it installed drivers to Windows. Right after installing the drivers however, it won't show in the file explorer. I've tried to detect it with a few development tools such as ORT and Odin and there was no sucess either. Download or Recover mode will not work as well.
One thing I think worth mentioning, is that ever since I rooted it a couple of years ago, whenever I tried to recharge it while it was off, the standard "green charging battery" would never appear. What would appear on the screen was a freezed loading icon (the one that keeps roling again and again, but frozen). This particular issue never came off, even reseting it or installing new ROMs.
I always used Maclaw's, some of the latest 4.x, because I tought the 5.x was to heavy for the s3 minis.
I've read some about USB JIGs and stuff, but what makes me very curious is what the heck?! The phone was working just fine, the battery runs out and I have a brick? Is this possible? Can anyone tell me any work around?
I apologize for possible grammar mistakes.
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try to plug in the phone into charger & leave it there like 20 mins or more. battery loads then.
then try access samsung download mode, if you cant the phone is probably useless (brick for ever) because itslike mthe last standing thing.
& sorry i say that but thats typically samsung behaviuor. there allways this kind of threads in the samsung forums of xda... other manufacturer can mostly be restored or atleast you know what make it dead.
Exactly the same problems happening to me.
This is my thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3-mini/help/sgs3-mini-dead-t3085031
Can you try to follow what appears on this link? (I can't by now because my PC is broken)
I think won't do nothing because you won't be able to access to the recovery mode on android, as me, but to try...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1840030
bejunk said:
try to plug in the phone into charger & leave it there like 20 mins or more. battery loads then.
then try access samsung download mode, if you cant the phone is probably useless (brick for ever) because itslike mthe last standing thing.
& sorry i say that but thats typically samsung behaviuor. there allways this kind of threads in the samsung forums of xda... other manufacturer can mostly be restored or atleast you know what make it dead.
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Hi there,
Thank you for your interest but I have passed this point already. Tried a brand new battery I had laying down in the drawer (which was fully charged with an universal charger) and there is no answer to any attempt of turning it on. Via recovery, download or normal boot.
CrashOverride93 said:
Exactly the same problems happening to me.
This is my thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3-mini/help/sgs3-mini-dead-t3085031
Can you try to follow what appears on this link? (I can't by now because my PC is broken)
I think won't do nothing because you won't be able to access to the recovery mode on android, as me, but to try...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1840030
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Hello there,
I'm sorry to hear I'm not the only one affected by this bug (lets call it a bug). This shows there is a lack of concern from Samsung on dealing with this issues, and thus we see that old programmed obsolescence.
I will try that later on the weekend, and I come back here with an report.
Cheers
ScrewedImei said:
Hi there,
Thank you for your interest but I have passed this point already. Tried a brand new battery I had laying down in the drawer (which was fully charged with an universal charger) and there is no answer to any attempt of turning it on. Via recovery, download or normal boot.
Hello there,
I'm sorry to hear I'm not the only one affected by this bug (lets call it a bug). This shows there is a lack of concern from Samsung on dealing with this issues, and thus we see that old programmed obsolescence.
I will try that later on the weekend, and I come back here with an report.
Cheers
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this guide useless for you. how u want flash things with odin if u cant enter download mode at all??
im really sorry for you that this phone is dead. just can give you 1 advice, dont buy samsung in future.
I have been repaired my phone successfully!!!
I just needed to change two capacitors on its motherboard, and that's it.
Here the video where I have found the info and how to do that. It's in Spanish but easy to understand for you I think. But if you need some help, send me a PM.
can you take a picture from the location of the 2 capasitors and the types of it
Hi everyone.
I have some news. It took me a while but I followed CrashOverride93's advice on that video. It actually solved one issue, as I now can turn it on, but now I have a second problem, I'm stuck on a boot loop, with acess to Download mode ONLY. No recovery.
Considering where my issue started, and where I am now, I have tried the following:
- Flashed via Odin stock ROM, kernel;
- flashed Wipe;
- flashed PARAM;
- three button combo.
So far I couldn't get it pass the boot loop. Any thoughts?

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