VOB Player for Kaiser TyTN II - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps

Since micro SDs now come in awesome capacities, we tend to store rather larger media files than before.
I happen to copy a movie from a friend earlier in VOB format (4.7GB DVD) and I wanted to play directly from my PPC.
Sadly, the TCPMP did not play it nor did the Media Player.
Is there a plug in for TCPMP or maybe another program that plays this extension?
Thanks in advance

I did a little search and it seems that the only thing you can do is convert it. Thankfuly, I ran across a free .vob converter.
I dont watch videos on my phone (no time), so I haven't tried it out to see if it works.
Also, this thread covered it too.
So it seems there's no way (any ways that I can find) to play VOB files on your phone, however you can convert it to other formats.
if your not happy with these answers, give it a try.

In some cases, simply renaming the file to mpg will allow it to load. Virtuadub2 allows for loading of MPEG2 files, but not VOB files. So simply renaming it allowed it to be loaded.

I seriously doubt the Kaiser has enough processing power to decode a vob file, considering the audio/video bitrate involved.

even after renaming, the tytn ii could not decode:/
i really love the size and the keyboard of this device but i wish they would've put a slightly faster processor and better drivers

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TCPMP

I installed the player but is there a way to change it to the defaults player for IE so when I go to youtube it doesn't try to load RealPlayer. In the program I looked over all the settings but didn't see one. I also went through and check that it was suppose to handle all file types just to make sure. thanks for any advice
After setting file associations .flv in TCPMP did you soft reset?
Have you installed the flv plugins for TCPMP?
I haven bothered to install RealPlayer on my Kaiser, it is on my Wizard, and I haven't missed it yet. TCPMP works fine for me on Youtube. If you unistall RealPayer does the incorrect file association recover?
Launch TCPMP
Select options, settings, select page.
A pop up allows access to all the settings including File Associations.
(s)He's talking about m.youtube.com loading RP.
Sorry, misunderstood.
I did set all the files assoiciations up. I also did a soft reset. I did install the flv plugins. Because the tilt comes preinstalled with Realplayer it isn't even listed as a program that can be removed.
any more ideas? Thanks for your guys help.
Yesterday I installed TCPMP on my Tytn II. I wanted to see if there was any improvement over the reported jerky playback of .wmv files. Unfortunately it could not read the .wmvs I tried to play and reported that it did not have the right codes. I thought that TCPMP would have the codecs 'out of the box'.
In any case I've just installed and tried Pocket Player but the jerkiness was still there. I increased the cache in the options but to no effect. I would like to try Core Player but can't since they do not offer a trial/demo version from their site.
As I understand the jerkiness of video playback is due to an OS bug and might be resolved with a ROM upgrade from HTC. However has anyone found a temporary/permanent solution?
Well I uninstalled and reinstalled TCPMP and left the defaults setup and it seems to work now.
Do you just get the jerky ness on wmv files? I have't loaded any yet cause I am waiting for my 4gb card in the mail.
I get the jerkiness to some extent also with .mp4 and .3gp files. I'm no expert on audio/vide/codecs etc. I just want to watch videos on long trips.
I've also tried encoding just a single chapter from a DVD and placed this in main memory. Same jerkiness so it's nothing to do with transfer rates from the MicroSD card.
jallenclark said:
I installed the player but is there a way to change it to the defaults player for IE so when I go to youtube it doesn't try to load RealPlayer. In the program I looked over all the settings but didn't see one. I also went through and check that it was suppose to handle all file types just to make sure. thanks for any advice
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Guy go in the file Association area and check mark all the blocks, now your TCPMP/PLAYER will be the DEFAULT player, if this does not work PM me and I will send you the added software you might need!
I used TCPMP and now Core Player, they work very smoothly. I use RAW Framebuffer and encode my media conservatively 320 x 240, 96-128k stereo (it still sounds great even at 96kb) and a video bitrate around 475kb. I have to say it looks very sharp and clear on the 8525 and now my Kaiser
RemE said:
I used TCPMP and now Core Player, they work very smoothly. I use RAW Framebuffer and encode my media conservatively 320 x 240, 96-128k stereo (it still sounds great even at 96kb) and a video bitrate around 475kb. I have to say it looks very sharp and clear on the 8525 and now my Kaiser
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What type of files do you play using TCPMP and/or Core Player, and what app do you use to encode them?
Full length movies usually from my DVD's, or MPEG2 files from Replay DVR and PC Based SageTV, encoded with PDXE to Divx format.

TCPMP video over Wifi

Hey all,
one of my first posts here at XDA-dev, been reading for ages but have become more vocal since picking up my Kaiser.
I would like to know how other peoples' experiences with the device have gone in regards to streaming video over Wifi to your device.
Let me explain a bit better: I'm in the kitchen whipping up some dinner and decide to watch some divx encoded anime on my Kaiser. I fire up Resco network explorer and browse my PCs network shares and find a file, select it and execute it.
The problem I am encountering is that either the device or the player are struggling to keep up. I know for a fact that all my other devices like other desktops and laptops stream no problem.
Finding that the Kaiser plays for 5 or so seconds no worries then up pops the 'processing' wheel/indicator in the middle of the screen.
If I'm not mistaken, it's either a) downloading more data to cache or b) it can't keep up and needs to process it further.
What confuses me is that the same encode running off the microSD card (not even SDHC) runs perfectly.
If you could share your thoughts/experiences or tweaks that would be great!
Thanks in advance.
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Hey all,
one of my first posts here at XDA-dev, been reading for ages but have become more vocal since picking up my Kaiser.
I would like to know how other peoples' experiences with the device have gone in regards to streaming video over Wifi to your device.
Let me explain a bit better: I'm in the kitchen whipping up some dinner and decide to watch some divx encoded anime on my Kaiser. I fire up Resco network explorer and browse my PCs network shares and find a file, select it and execute it.
The problem I am encountering is that either the device or the player are struggling to keep up. I know for a fact that all my other devices like other desktops and laptops stream no problem.
Finding that the Kaiser plays for 5 or so seconds no worries then up pops the 'processing' wheel/indicator in the middle of the screen.
If I'm not mistaken, it's either a) downloading more data to cache or b) it can't keep up and needs to process it further.
What confuses me is that the same encode running off the microSD card (not even SDHC) runs perfectly.
If you could share your thoughts/experiences or tweaks that would be great!
Thanks in advance.
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You Kaiser can't handle streaming video that was meant for the processing power of your PC. You can try ORB which will work a lot better.
In my long experience with WM, downloading itself uses a lot of processing cycles, so transferring and decoding data at the same time does not work very well, unless one of them is not very demanding.
Surur
hrmm good points all around, I will give orb a try
Thanks kindly
I have encounter the same when I was testing stream video to my cell. I have tweak the buffer on TCPMP and it didnt work that well. I believe the problem in on the video size. You may have to convert it to 240x320 screen size. I have tested on Final Fantasy VII. It was a 1.3Gb file and converted to 240x320 in MP4. The file size is 485mb. It works great. The picture is sharp by compare to original video.
Orb maybe a solution, but if you are a P2P user. It will slow down your upload speed.
The program I am using to convert to 240x320 is " Cucusoft iPod Movie-Video Converter v3.12 " . This is a older version, but it can covert AVI, Divx, RM & RMVB file to MP4. As long as you have the correct decoder in your PC, it can decode almost anything. This software is design for iPod video, but TCPMP support MP4. Which makes this a great tool for convert video to smaller size. Best of all, it does batch video conversion. Which means just drag all the video that you want to convert in to the program and just hit convert button. I have a lot of good quality MTV clips and the size are from 25mb to 60mb. It helped me carry more videos on my 4Gb SD card.

Videos on Tilt

I was watching Transformers yesterday and today i watched another movie on my tilt. I realized that the movie lags a bit and quality isn't that good. The movies are dvdrips, however when playing you can see a lot of blurry squares at times. Also the sound is horrible. The sound about half a second later after the character actually mouths what is being said. So i can i fix these two problems? I am using TCPMP so any help with the settings on how to solve the issues would be great. Thanks
Join the crowd here & sign the petition
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I know people here are saying they are having media problems with the Kaiser and the video hardware could be implemented better, but I must have a different WM device because I don't have half of these problems!
First of all check the file you have converted by watching it on your PC. Some freeware conversion packages are crap and audio lagging and 'blocking' are present in the converted files.
Secondly, make sure you have converted to a reasonable screen resolution and frame rate. Playing anything above a 640x480 res on any PDA causes it to convert 'on the fly' and slows down playback.
I have many films in avi (not DivX!) format on a WLHDD2.5 wireless HDD and can play them very well over WiFi (use Resco Explorer to access network drive).
Hello Kareem I Just Read Your Post And I Have A Question , How Can You Download A Movie To Your Tilt I Have One And Im Having Trouble With That , And Do You Know A Good Website ? I Tried Vongo But They Told Me That The Tilt Does Not Work With Them. Thank You Very Much!!
Farsquidge said:
I know people here are saying they are having media problems with the Kaiser and the video hardware could be implemented better, but I must have a different WM device because I don't have half of these problems!
First of all check the file you have converted by watching it on your PC. Some freeware conversion packages are crap and audio lagging and 'blocking' are present in the converted files.
Secondly, make sure you have converted to a reasonable screen resolution and frame rate. Playing anything above a 640x480 res on any PDA causes it to convert 'on the fly' and slows down playback.
I have many films in avi (not DivX!) format on a WLHDD2.5 wireless HDD and can play them very well over WiFi (use Resco Explorer to access network drive).
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Amen, If you re encode movies correctly they play just fine on a tilt. I watch mine all the time even with BT headphones on which stress the cpu and the tilt even more. I change the audio sync to -0.500 for the headphones and -0.250 for regular viewing in coreplayer and the audio and video is perfectly in sync. I tryed the new version of coreplayer and the quality is superb. I quess thats why I have a dvd player also. I really dont need to watch a 4 gig dvd file on my tilt when a few minutes encoding it properly works just fine to throw it on my 6 gig sd card at a puny 250 meg file then. I have no skips, artifacts, or crappy picture. Most people are amazed when they see it playing on my tilts screen. Its a ppc phone. If I want a cinematic experince, I fire up my HD dlp projector and watch it on the 12 foot screen at home.
Me too . I'm watching live free or die hard now. Have seen about 3 movies on my Tilt and s9 headphones and it's great! PM me if you want the link for the movie(s).
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Hello Kareem I Just Read Your Post And I Have A Question , How Can You Download A Movie To Your Tilt I Have One And Im Having Trouble With That , And Do You Know A Good Website ? I Tried Vongo But They Told Me That The Tilt Does Not Work With Them. Thank You Very Much!!
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Wow, must have dug deep to find this old thread!!
lol, that's what i realized to. I saw transformers like a couple months back! Now watching other movies.
Re-encoding and audio syncing covered in this thread
FDARCE said:
Hello Kareem I Just Read Your Post And I Have A Question , How Can You Download A Movie To Your Tilt I Have One And Im Having Trouble With That , And Do You Know A Good Website ? I Tried Vongo But They Told Me That The Tilt Does Not Work With Them. Thank You Very Much!!
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Although not addressed to me, you ought to convert a dvd that you already have, or rip if off a website first. In order to convert a dvd movie, you do need conversion software. There are literally numerous recommended software to enable you to do this.
Although this one is not perfect, I use a software called 'super' on my laptop. It is freeware by the way and probably is not as top notch as paid for products. I've also never converted a full movie length video as well, just clips. But I assume it would work.
Once its converted, copy the converted movie to your memory card (if you have one) or your device. (The former is more ideal however)
I think it has also been inferred that you don't have to have conversion software to play a dvd movie on your device, but it will consume alot of your memory if you put a 700MB movie on your device
Which is why you use software such as Ashampoo Movie Shrink & Burn to shrink the file down to 320 x 240, turning an 800MB file to 200MB.
Also with Ashampoo, you can tell it what size you're aiming for, so if you want the file to shrink to 100MB, it will tell you what sort of quality it will be. but I usually shrink mine down to between 170MB - 300MB, depending on the length of the film.
Audio said:
Which is why you use software such as Ashampoo Movie Shrink & Burn to shrink the file down to 320 x 240, turning an 800MB file to 200MB.
Also with Ashampoo, you can tell it what size you're aiming for, so if you want the file to shrink to 100MB, it will tell you what sort of quality it will be. but I usually shrink mine down to between 170MB - 300MB, depending on the length of the film.
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Audio..I have never tried Ashampoo, you have me intriged now as I usually two a two step process.
Cheers.
Audio,
How is the video playback when you shrink your movie down to 170MB - 300MB? Do you get lags and a lip sync effect?
Video playback is fine. No lag, it's just like watching a standard movie on a tiny screen . I have my audio synced at -200 in TCPMP which solves any delay. Everything can be found in this thread
Audio said:
Video playback is fine. No lag, it's just like watching a standard movie on a tiny screen . I have my audio synced at -200 in TCPMP which solves any delay. Everything can be found in this thread
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Thanks for this Audio! I'm about to try it now
One more question, do you use Ashampoo Movie and Shrink or Kingdia Video Converter? On this thread you mentioned Ashampoo, and on the other thread you mentioned Kingdia Video Converter
I use Kingdia to convert my files to .avi format, then Ashampoo to shrink them down to 320 x 240. Although thinking about it, i've never actually tried to shrink any other type of file format using ashampoo, perhaps you can shrink .mp4/.wmv/etc straight to .avi using ashampoo, give a try and let me know!
Audio said:
I use Kingdia to convert my files to .avi format, then Ashampoo to shrink them down to 320 x 240. Although thinking about it, i've never actually tried to shrink any other type of file format using ashampoo, perhaps you can shrink .mp4/.wmv/etc straight to .avi using ashampoo, give a try and let me know!
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I should have your read your first post in the other thread properly. Yes, I see why you use both Ashampoo and Kingdia. I'll try it. May take me a while though
I don't normally have my video clips at AVI format. I normally have it a 3GP or MPG. Why AVI?
"I have my audio synced at -200 in TCPMP which solves any delay. Everything can be found in this thread"
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I was wondering if to sync your audio at -200, do you have to go to 'Settings' and then 'buffering' and then change the figure in 'preload for audio' to '-200 kb'
Well I use .avi as it's good compression, you could have a film in .wmv that is about 2GB, whereas in .avi it'd only be 700MB.
As for your seconf question, to sync your audio in TCPMP, go to Options > Select Page > Advanced, and you're looking for the "Manual A/V offset +/-" box. And I actually lied, mine's currently set to -270, not - 200. But it depends how much faster your eyes work compared to your ears
Audio said:
Well I use .avi as it's good compression, you could have a film in .wmv that is about 2GB, whereas in .avi it'd only be 700MB.
As for your seconf question, to sync your audio in TCPMP, go to Options > Select Page > Advanced, and you're looking for the "Manual A/V offset +/-" box. And I actually lied, mine's currently set to -270, not - 200. But it depends how much faster your eyes work compared to your ears
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I'll be putting those values in now. Thanks again. But I still would have thought converting a movie to '3GP' would save alot more space, but the quality of the video would probably be poorer. I've noticed this when using the programme 'Super' to convert video clips to 3GP in comparison to converting the very same video clips to MPG. I assume that AVI and MPG file sizes can't be too different...
And I just stumbled upon this in your other thread:
Hi plchan,
to be perfectly honest, I've no idea how other file types play, as all the films I "Source" are mostly .avi's anyway. However TCPMP has codec for loads of different file types, so I don't see a problem with Shrinking different file types straight to 320 x 240.
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I'll try keeping the video type to its original if TCPMP will play it anyway. Plus, the quality of the video always detoriate whenever you encode.
A random question- In your sig, I notice you are endorsing 'mini opera'. I was wondering which out of 'mini opera' or 'mobile opera' is the better for a kaiser
For web browser's, you're probably better off reading this thread. The reason I use Opera Mini, is because I enjoy the zoom ability that you get. I.E when you open a webpage, you see all the webpage, then you can just press on the bit you want to zoom into. But the minute Opera Mobile 9 comes out, I'll be getting it . That Skyfire that's made an appearance also seems to look VERY interesting, probably going to be a good competitor for Opera Mobile 9, as is Microsoft's Deepfish browser. It's all very exciting.... lol.

MP4 files: Can record & play on PPC, not on PC

On my Kaiser I took some movies. They were in .MP4 format. I copied the files to my PC and when trying to play them on the PC (by double-clicking on the file in the windows explorer) - I get this error message in a dialog box:
Title: Error
Text: Error -2041: an invalid sample description was found in the movie (VIDEO_011.MP4)
When I try to open the file in the latest updated version of Windows Media Player 11, I get an error message saying it cannot play this sort of file. I do have MP4 codecs on my PC as well.
Lastly, when I copy the files back onto my PPC and then open the camera application, I am still able to open and play the files with no problem on the Kaiser.... so there is nothing wrong with the files... so what the heck?!?! HALP!
try quicktime it does a good job with mp4 files
people been reporting mixed results getting mp4 codecs to play
in other players sometimes there were no audio somethings it dident work
at all
Perhaps you could try googling 'K Lite Media pack'. This is highly recommended by many, and it works great for me. It plays so many different file types, such as flv files (say if you downloaded a youtube video and wanted to play it straight away) and I'm pretty certain, MP4 files too. The player you play videos with is called 'Media Player Classic'.
yes, get k lite mega codec pack
Tilt MP4 Videos unviewable on PC - Vista Ultimate Upgrade results in...
I even upgraded to Windows Vista (via download) to try to get this to work. I figured waiting long enough after it first comes out (it's been one YEAR), they would have ironed out all the bugs. Also figured since Vista SP1 was about to come out I could stumble along with whatever my issues were until it was released in case I still had problems...
I am more gutsy than most to do things like this with my PC because I automated a backup of only files that have changed, the first time I turn on my PC each day, to an external drive which I can just grab and run with in case my home ever catches on fire, etc. Runs in the background and only takes about 10 minutes, that has saved my butt more than once...
I specified only upgrade rather than a fresh install, so none of my programs or data would be lost:
1. All my data was lost anyway !!!!! Thank goodness for the backups!
2. All my browser favorites were blown away !!!! Thank goodness for the backups!
3. Almost everything also worked except for several drivers that I had to go to the vendor's website to download an upgrade. Good thing I am not using any hardware from vendors that have gone out of business. (I had to replace an old leading-edge technology $2,000 flat panel monitor because of that once.)
4. Tilt MP4 Videos unviewable on PC !?!!? AARRRGGGGGGGGHHGGHGHGGGHHHHH!
I'll try the "K Lite Mega Codec Pac" but have a couple of questions in the next post -
- Kruse
K Lite Mega Codec Pac
What "K Lite Mega Codec Pac" do to your PC? Is it removeable? Does it overwrite other codecs you might have? Does it come with a program for managing your codec settings and what is in use vs. not in use, or what?
Let me know, I really want to try it but I will wait for your response/s...
i would advise against using k-lite codec pack, if you really want a good codec pack,try cccp.
however, if all you wanna do is just watch the mp4 files, i suggest that you just use vlc, linky
Why is cccp better?
Why is cccp better, and how do I removed the codecs which I prefer not to use?
well, cccp is technically not a codec pack......its a filter pack, and has quite a few endorsements, its definitely the way to go if u need to play multiple video formats. the problem with most codec packs is there's high chances of damaging ur system if you dont know what you are installing. you may end up having multiple codecs for one video format. most ppl would tell you to avoid using any codec pack because the problems it would cause, i used to think the same, until i discovered cccp, seriously excellent when it comes to mkv playback.
however, like i said, if you're worried so much about codecs being installed on your system, just go ahead and use vlc, its a standalone player with its own decoders, doesnt install any codecs to your system watsoever.

Watching Divx films films very Jumpy

Hi,
When i try and watch my divx films through tcpmp or via divx player thye are always very jumpy. Anyone got any ideas?
Welcome to the kaiser, you're bringing up pretty much the first ever complaint about the phone.
There are many things people do to try and solve the problem. Search them out and see if any work for you.
Have tried differant roms, different players and also differant video drivers
Those are the sort of things you put in the original post.
what size are the movie files, format, etc.
600mb avi files
convert the files to the resolution of the kaiser screen 320x240 or something.
RIGHT, geez mine are about 200mb MAX, and it runs pretty good.
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RIGHT, geez mine are about 200mb MAX, and it runs pretty good.
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Same here use AONE FLV to AVI MPEG WMV 3GP MP4 iPod Converter don't be fooled by name will convert anything to anything & get about 200mb max files keeping audio bit down, rez right for output, one thing has to be correct is framerate as hate 2/1 effects.

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