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Are the usual annoying bugs in the Kaiser?

Hi, I'm considering going back to WMobile phones and seriously considering the Kaiser. I currently have the N73 but had many wm5 phones before, SPV m600, Trinity, XDA Orbit, Wizard etc etc, all had annoying little "bugs".
I know the Kaiser is only just out, but can anyone tell me if you have noticed any of the following?
1) delay in ringing when receiving an incoming call. i.e. people on the other end hears a ring, but my phone takes about 3seconds before it rings...v. annoying!
2) delay in waking up.
3) slow response in dialing, i.e. when pressing a number on the dial pad.
4) Missing incoming comes, i.e. full reception but people unable to get through. Extremely annoying.
5) Rebooting itself
6) Alarm not going off.
Hows the call quality?
Anyone used and have any issues with the T9 pad, think that's what it's called. I use to use this, but gave me problems when i switched back to virtual keyboard, e.g. wouldn't switch back at all.
Sorry for all the questions.

1) Haven't tested this yet, i'm hoping this isn't the case though...!
2) Wakes up pretty quick, no unbarable lag
3) Same as 2) - all seems pretty responsive, no bad lag
4) Never had that issue before, don't expect to get it with the Kaiser
5) Nope, although i haven't installed any other apps etc yet...
6) Same as 4)
I can only really compare with the Universal (as that's the only other WM phone i've owned)... my initial impressions are that it's a lot quicker than the Universal... maybe that's partially due to the fact that i haven't installed any bits yet... or really tweaked it.
The 3 second delay was REALLY annoying.... as i'd have to start every phonecall with: "hello....... hello? heeeelllllllllo?" lol... i hope this isnt the case with the Kaiser!
Also i think a lot of the noticable improvements are also due to the fact that im using a vanilla HTC phone, as opposed to a crappy T-mobile 'runined' one! Also i think WM6 has brought in a lot of changes which are noticeably improved over WM5.
EDIT: oh and the only thing that really 'bugs' me - is that i'm used to the lovely VGA Screen of the Universal, so dropping down to QVGA is rather noticable... text looks blockier and using Cleartype seems to make it alot fuzzier than on the Universal.... but that's my only really negative point so far.... hopefully it'll be the ONLY one
EDIT2: Something else i just thought of.... the fact that when my Universal locked up... if i didnt have my Stylus on me (which i usually didnt) and i didnt have a small pin-like object to stick into the reset hole... i was SCREWED... which REALLY pi**ed me off.... countless times i'd be on the train home from work, about to email a friend... only to have my phone lockup... then i'd have to wait an hour before i could reset it and start writing... GRRRRR. Anyway, the Kaiser actually turns off when you hold down the power button... simple... and GREAT! (the power button on the Universal was so stupid.... in my opinion.... was there any way (except by using 3rd party apps) to actually turn the damn thing OFF?! lol)

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hongsit said:
Hi, I'm considering going back to WMobile phones and seriously considering the Kaiser. I currently have the N73 but had many wm5 phones before, SPV m600, Trinity, XDA Orbit, Wizard etc etc, all had annoying little "bugs".
I know the Kaiser is only just out, but can anyone tell me if you have noticed any of the following?
1) delay in ringing when receiving an incoming call. i.e. people on the other end hears a ring, but my phone takes about 3seconds before it rings...v. annoying!
2) delay in waking up.
3) slow response in dialing, i.e. when pressing a number on the dial pad.
4) Missing incoming comes, i.e. full reception but people unable to get through. Extremely annoying.
5) Rebooting itself
6) Alarm not going off.
Hows the call quality?
Anyone used and have any issues with the T9 pad, think that's what it's called. I use to use this, but gave me problems when i switched back to virtual keyboard, e.g. wouldn't switch back at all.
Sorry for all the questions.
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1) The delay is/was caused by the CPU/OS coming out of standby. With PDA type Windows Mobile devices they have a standby mode where the whole operating system is suspended. The mobile chip remains powered and when a call comes in it has to send a wake up request to the CPU and OS. It is the time the CPU and OS takes to become responsive that causes the delay. I noticed this delay was quite a lot on the Toshiba G900, several seconds or rings before it had woken up to sound the internal audio to alert you to the call. Sometimes it wouldn't wake at all :-(
The Kaiser wakes very quickly, hardly any delay at all, they have certainly put in a lot of work in this area.
Windows SmartPhones don't have this problem as they remain "always on" so respond without delay even though they may look off.
2) Answer above, very quick, almost instant.
3) Seems okay to me.
4) This is probably the OS failing to wake up, I would doubt this happens on the Kaiser.
5) Okay so far.
6) This again is related to the CPU/OS failing to wake up to a request. It is likely the phone you have experienced this with has some problems waking up when asked and would explain all your concerns.
Hope that helps.
Regards
Phil

I read on another thread regarding the assembly which houses the green and red call buttons being loose. What is the opinion of other users over here. I am asking this as I am considering buying one soon to replace my Touch
Regards

Yes the whole section moves slightly on mine, it must just be where they float on a rubber section underneath.
I hadn't noticed this until now, why is this a problem? If it was fixed two tight the keys would scrape against the sides when pressed. Makes sense there is some space.
Regards
Phil

The buttons feel a bit 'loose' but no more than in any other device (the buttons on my PSP for example).

Thanks for the reply guys, kaiser sounds promising, just hope it continues to impress.

hongsit said:
1) delay in ringing when receiving an incoming call. i.e. people on the other end hears a ring, but my phone takes about 3seconds before it rings...v. annoying!
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There are two contributors to this:
One is a registry entry, where all of the "standard" options cause a 3 second pre-ring delay and 3 second delay between rings. This can be fixed in the registry.
The second is network delay. The caller will hear ringing before your phone rings (usually 1-2 rings) no matter what phone you use. I've had such delays with every mobile phone I have ever used, smart or not. If you try the registry hack (search around for the exact key, numerous posts on it and I can't remember the exact registry key at the moment) and are still not happy, you have one option to reduce ring latency - get a landline.

New 1.93 ROM disappointments

Hi all
I've succesfully updated to the new 1.93.XX ROM, I agree it's faster but I'm a little disappointed. The TouchFlo 3D menus transitions are not as cool anymore. For instance when you navigate through the menus with your finger acroos the screen (not using the slide menu in the bottom) the menu sections don't flow anymore, they just disappear and fade in instead.
Other than that I don't have much to complain about, but I just wanted to check if it's like this for you guys as well.
Has anybody else found any other disappointing "improvements"?
Cheers

as i have understood it, the transitions you mention was there to "hide" the lag in the previous ROM, and it's not needed in the new because of the speed increase.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=421311

Try using swots new ROM. It retains the animations yet apparently its much faster .

The Diamond is really disappointing me these days. I too am on the latest official (UK) ROM.
Some of my problems..
Battery Life - absolutely terrible if you use the phone for business means and push email. I dont leave BT or WIFI on and still the battery lasts no longer than around 12 hours
Alarm - the windows mobile alarm simply doesnt ring if you recieve an email or notification before the scheduled time. Its useless and has failed to wake me on a many a occasion
Reminders - for some reason dont pop up on the screen. You have to manually tell it to via sounds/notifications in settings, and even once you have done that, the Diamond some how reverts back to default settings automatically and the reminders fail to display again!
Answering calls - If your phone is docked in the official cradle and you tap the answer button when reciving a call before you take the phone off the cradle, it will reject the call regardless.
Opera - no flash and no way to click on a youtube clip and watch it. Why cant it operate like iphone and launch the you tube app when you click on a link to a clip on the webpage??!!
Activesync/Push/MS Exchange - loses sync sometimes and you have to softreset or manually launch activesync and hit the sync button... why??!
A2DP - doesnt work at all, it should be REMOVED as a listed feature. Im listening to music on a tube train via A2DP - I hit overground, I recieve a call, I answer via my headset. I end call, music continues playing THROUGH MY PHONE SPEAKER! Its embarassing and happens all the time. Useless. My old HTC Touch never acted that way.
Camera - Absolutely useless. We have a 3 Megapixel autofocus camera, yet the iphone still produces better quality images. Diamonds photos are fussy, soft and undefined - they lack sharpness and clarity. some say its because of the plastic lens cover, I see it as poor design.
GPS - works fine... apart from the LAG, which defeats the purpose of turn by turn navigation.
Its these annoying problems that are seriously pissing me off and will probably tempt me to the dark side come next generation of phone.

oh dear
I'm using Duttys latest rom..
I like the phone but I can give you my view on your points.
Battery life lasts me a day with pretty heavy use .. I expect to charge it and I'm not normally that far from a charger.. charges quickly
Ive never had a bad experience with the alarm. I will try and emulate what you said though.
reminders.. they sound and I can see them.. in fact it speaks them at the moment too
Answering calls. I don't use the dock but sometimes it does drop calls when i go to answer them ..
Opera No flash.. so whats new there then? You tube.. I like the you tube app.. but to be honest if i wanted something to watch you tube on id probably have gotten an Iphone
Active sync. I have never had a problem with active sync with any phone.. All my mail for my phone is collected/sent via orange so mail is no issue for me.. as for synching files.. no problems at all.
A2DP .. sorry but its not even an issue I don't listen to music through it. I do use bluetooth devices though and have no problems.
Camera.. Now I do use that and I like it. Its a good practical camera.. that takes adequate pictures.. except in poor light when its rubbish..
GPS.. mine doesn't lag and works much better than my old M700 and looks miles better
Dont get me wrong.. I dont live in Diamond Utopia .. but for what I need and use it for.. (on the move office related stuff, phone calls and sat nav) Its great.. it cost me nothing and it looks good too. I think its very good.
Now if i'd wanted a phone to play music through and watch videos on Id have probably gone to something else.
For what I need/want this phone hits the nail on the head.
Ive also grown to quite like the rom development side too.. !

N1 user frustrated with issues???

Came across this http://phandroid.com/2010/04/08/nexus-one-users-are-getting-fed-up-with-issues/
1) Doesn't work if thrown against the wall at excess of 30 mph.
2) Doesn't respond to sexual advances from males.
3) Software is written by people, not Gods, and contains bugs.
4) When bathed in brake fluid or acid, teflon coating comes off.
5) When kept in back pocket of tight jeans, doesn't withhold breaking pressures of 100PSI when sitting down. Hence, flimsy.
6) Does not transform into a huge robot and doesn't save the planet from evil iPhone-transformed robots, leaving our planet defenseless.
7) I heard it faked its own birth certificate and will win 2012 elections and rule the world with communism.
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Is this some new trick by iPhoners or is it really true?

faraz1992 said:
Came across this http://phandroid.com/2010/04/08/nexus-one-users-are-getting-fed-up-with-issues/
Is this some new trick by iPhoners or is it really true?
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I dont have a single one of these issues. I guess it depends just how much of a complainer you want to be. It's like complaining about a laptop you have without keeping things in perspective such as 10 years ago DESKTOP's were the rage. The person should calm down with the complaining and enjoy the phone...

I got some more to add.
16. Doesn't work if thrown against the wall at excess of 30 mph.
17. Doesn't respond to sexual advances from males.
18. Software is written by people, not Gods, and contains bugs.
19. When bathed in brake fluid or acid, teflon coating comes off.
20. When kept in back pocket of tight jeans, doesn't withhold breaking pressures of 100PSI when sitting down. Hence, flimsy.
21. Does not transform into a huge robot and doesn't save the planet from evil iPhone-transformed robots, leaving our planet defenseless.
22. I heard it faked its own birth certificate and will win 2012 elections and rule the world with communism.

DarkDvr said:
17. Doesn't respond to sexual advances from males.
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Talk about a deal breaker *sigh*

I got some more to add.
16. Doesn't work if thrown against the wall at excess of 30 mph.
17. Doesn't respond to sexual advances from males.
18. Software is written by people, not Gods, and contains bugs.
19. When bathed in brake fluid or acid, teflon coating comes off.
20. When kept in back pocket of tight jeans, doesn't withhold breaking pressures of 100PSI when sitting down. Hence, flimsy.
21. Does not transform into a huge robot and doesn't save the planet from evil iPhone-transformed robots, leaving our planet defenseless.
22. I heard it faked its own birth certificate and will win 2012 elections and rule the world with communism.
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You should totally add those to their comments.

DarkDvr said:
I got some more to add.
16. Doesn't work if thrown against the wall at excess of 30 mph.
17. Doesn't respond to sexual advances from males.
18. Software is written by people, not Gods, and contains bugs.
19. When bathed in brake fluid or acid, teflon coating comes off.
20. When kept in back pocket of tight jeans, doesn't withhold breaking pressures of 100PSI when sitting down. Hence, flimsy.
21. Does not transform into a huge robot and doesn't save the planet from evil iPhone-transformed robots, leaving our planet defenseless.
22. I heard it faked its own birth certificate and will win 2012 elections and rule the world with communism.
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My thoughts exactly! Especially number 17... that's a real disappointment.
Honestly, the only ones I can kinda agree with are the proximity/light sensor issues. It seems to be a bit slow when I pull it away from my ear when in direct sunlight. But, I know where the end button is so it's no big deal.

ryscar said:
My thoughts exactly! Especially number 17... that's a real disappointment.
Honestly, the only ones I can kinda agree with are the proximity/light sensor issues. It seems to be a bit slow when I pull it away from my ear when in direct sunlight. But, I know where the end button is so it's no big deal.
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Yep same here, that's the only 'Issue' I have. If that's the worst thing I've to deal with I'll be a happy man

DarkDvr said:
I got some more to add.
16. Doesn't work if thrown against the wall at excess of 30 mph.
17. Doesn't respond to sexual advances from males.
18. Software is written by people, not Gods, and contains bugs.
19. When bathed in brake fluid or acid, teflon coating comes off.
20. When kept in back pocket of tight jeans, doesn't withhold breaking pressures of 100PSI when sitting down. Hence, flimsy.
21. Does not transform into a huge robot and doesn't save the planet from evil iPhone-transformed robots, leaving our planet defenseless.
22. I heard it faked its own birth certificate and will win 2012 elections and rule the world with communism.
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LoL this made my day

23. Name doesn't begin with the letter "i".

1) 3G connectivity issue
It was patched with Update1
2) Touch Screen unresponsiveness/sensing incorrect input
It happens occasionally, but can be fixed by turning the screen off then back on
3) unresponsive trackball
Haven't had this at all
4) WIFI connectivity issue
Some times it doesn't reconnect to wifi automatically
5) Lock button response issue
Haven't had this.
6) Proximity sensor sensitivity issue
Haven't had issues with this
7) Ambient light sensor issue
Haven't had any issues
8)bluetooth issues: fails to operate; inadequate volume; intermittent failure to accept commands
Haven't had this at all. Working beautifully for me.
9) speaker: horrible sound quality
Ha. Compared to 5.1 speakers maybe
10) ringer: insufficient volume
Thats what the volume up button is for
11) earpiece: insufficient volume
See answer to number 10
12) headset connector: headphones cord activates pause or other functions
I've only seen this happen with Pandora, but recently stopped doing this.
13) manufacturer says phone cannot go in pocket
Every manufacturer says you shouldnt put your phone in your pocket. This doesn't stop people from doing it. I keep mine in my pocket, (Always comes out nice and shiny. Go go Pocket Cleaner)
14) Phone mutes when calling people and can only be unmuted by turning mute on then off!
WTF... Haven't heard of this.
15) missed call notification trackball does not flash
Works great for me.
Someone really doesn't like Android. When you don't understand something, just hate on it right?

archangelugp said:
10) ringer: insufficient volume
Thats what the volume up button is for
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hahahahha
I noticed that people with android phones in general are far more happy and optimistic than any WM owners I've seen so far.. Maybe I'm just imagining thou =)

Wow Ill be the first one to say the nexus software has enough issues to push me to Apple but even I think that list is finicky. I think users need to at least wait for a couple of updates before giving up on the device. I guess it can't hurt to point out the issues but several of those listed really aren't even worth mentioning.
Edit: I just read the article, pretty harsh! While I've only had a couple of the issues listed I've had many other issues that aren't listed. My main frustration though, and I don't care how the iPhone compares here, is that almost all of the issues I have can be fixed ota but I've heard nothing from Google. The main problems on my end are that the touchscreen is jittery and the images lose quality when I touch the screen and the RAM isn't utilized properly. I have various other minor annoyances -(vkb, boring widgets, etc) and bugs -(random reboot, browser issues, lower effective resolution than advertised, etc) but they are almost all software related, which is a great thing. And if Google would just indicate a willingness or plan to fix my issues I could really relax. I really love all of the integration and Google apps so I'm going to wait and see what happens but at the very least Android needs to share some sort of plan of action. If they did this a lot if not all of the software complaints would cease.
P.S.- considering the iPhone's unimpressive though overdue software upgrades, unless the new iPhone has better resolution, dual mics, hd recording, and front facing camera, I'm not impressed.

faraz1992 said:
Came across this http://phandroid.com/2010/04/08/nexus-one-users-are-getting-fed-up-with-issues/
Is this some new trick by iPhoners or is it really true?
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Bull**t
#teamAndroid

Totally agree with others who say they have none of the described issues.

Bad batch? REALLY?
DMaverick50 said:
Wow Ill be the first one to say the nexus software has enough issues to push me to Apple but even I think that list is finicky. I think users need to at least wait for a couple of updates before giving up on the device. I guess it can't hurt to point out the issues but several of those listed really aren't even worth mentioning.
Edit: I just read the article, pretty harsh! While I've only had a couple of the issues listed I've had many other issues that aren't listed. My main frustration though, and I don't care how the iPhone compares here, is that almost all of the issues I have can be fixed ota but I've heard nothing from Google. The main problems on my end are that the touchscreen is jittery and the images lose quality when I touch the screen and the RAM isn't utilized properly. I have various other minor annoyances -(vkb, boring widgets, etc) and bugs -(random reboot, browser issues, lower effective resolution than advertised, etc) but they are almost all software related, which is a great thing. And if Google would just indicate a willingness or plan to fix my issues I could really relax. I really love all of the integration and Google apps so I'm going to wait and see what happens but at the very least Android needs to share some sort of plan of action. If they did this a lot if not all of the software complaints would cease.
P.S.- considering the iPhone's unimpressive though overdue software upgrades, unless the new iPhone has better resolution, dual mics, hd recording, and front facing camera, I'm not impressed.
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I agree...

Well don't be so quick to dismiss the frustrated users. Some of the things on that list is petty although somewhat accurate i guess, speaker could be louder. I've also had an issue with cradling the phone against my shoulder as that seems to affect the quality of my voice and people complain i sound like i'm "in a tunnel" or far away. I'm guessing something with the noise canceling mic.
I've had the data connection issues which seems to just be a cell radio issue, probably hardware based with my replacement phone at least. I had my old phone replaced because it just did not want to connect via data or whatever for 5-20 seconds all the way up to 2 or 3 minutes. The up arrow on the 3g without any data coming back down issue. Whenever I did a speed test.. upload sometimes would be horrible and it would be really choppy (doing the speedtest.net one) compared to the download. By choppy i mean the meter would jump to different values (it wasn't smooth and consistent like the download) and sometimes it would just stop as would the data indicator lights. It was always around 100-500 kbps averaging around 300. Same behavior for both the original and the RMA.
With the replacement one that i've had for a couple of weeks that issue turned into a much larger one. It started when I wasn't able to make outbound calls so i turned off my phone and turned it back on again to get the x with four blank bars at the top. Re-registered on the network... seemed to work ok for awhile. Then the same thing but started getting a "sim card isn't valid for this network" error when trying to re-register my phone after again starting to randomly show me an x with 4 blank bars at the top. Hard resetting and soft resetting didn't fix it. Sometimes it'd give me an error even searching for them. When i first got the problem it was brief.. but i figured i should get my sim card replaced. So i did. 3-4 days later I wasn't able to get it to work for almost 3 hours.. on my way to the tmobile store it just went from x with 4 bars to 4 full bars and then finally the 3g indicator to the left of that came on. Turned around cause I really didn't have the time to figure out what it was about at that moment. Data worked, could make a phone call. Next day it just got worse to the point now where it wont' search for a network sometimes.. gives me an error after sometime.. and definitely won't register on the network. I also had airplane mode turned on automatically after a soft reset (despite it showing an x and 4 bars and not an airplane)wasn't able to turn it off via the android menu settings. Had to go into the service menu and press turn radio on button.
WIFI still works however.. but that's a separate chip from the cell radio chip and its has just wifi/bluetooth on it so that makes sense.
I've had tmobile double and tripple check everything, network cancellation, sim replacement, check the towers nearby, make sure my plan is setup correctly for my phone. I'm going with poor build quality on some of these and bad quality checking... I guess time will tell. Getting my swap on monday... car dock arrived today and is just sitting on my desk.

3G connection
I have had my Nexus One for a week now...... My area has only had T-Mobile 3G coverage for about a month... At the T-Mobile store all their phones have full 3G service and my Nexus was on Edge only... The HD2 Demo in the store had full bars of 3G and my phone was just pushing out Edge... It flipped to 1 and 2 bars of 3G a couple of times but reverted back to Edge... At home I can set it on my desk or coffee table and set up the screen to stay on for 30 minutes and with out moving the phone watch it flip between 3 bars of 3G to 4 bars of Edge and it does this constantly... Even if I go outside and in my yard set it down and just watch it switch back and forth between Edge and 3G.... The girl next door has the My Touch 3G and she has full 3G service on her phone it never flips between Edge and 3G but the Nexus One does... The day I got it and hooked it up the phone rebooted and loaded the latest firmware and it did this twice.. if I look for manual updates for the phone it says it has the latest software. have not had any of the other issues being posted on here. I have followed some suggestions to go to the settings, networks, mobile networks, network operators and then select automatically (Which was a fix I read about from another post) still no help.. Still flips back and forth between edge and 3G.... How can another phone (The HD2 which I purchased and returned after a week... Windows Mobile is horrible even with sense layered over it) have no problem keeping a 3G signal but the Nexus one continues to drop the signal? Not sure if maybe I got a bad unit and it needs to be exchanged???? Any suggestions on the 3G problem? other than that the phone has been amazing.. I love the stock android 2.1 OS.... the Camera is pretty awesome for a phone...

@Robbie317 Post on the nexus one forums and call them up as well and tell them exactly what you posted here. Personally I'd recommend against an RMA until another update comes back cause who knows what issues the next one can give you if you do a swap... and unless you can wait 1-2 weeks for the same phone to come back to you from a repair I'd wait it out for and update and just ***** on the nexus one tech support forums and calling them. Say what you said here. Hell call them in the store at t-mobile. Take a picture of your bars on your phone next to an HD2. I think its important to get the point across to them as clearly as possible. I'm sure they're aware of most of these issues though.
Also it seems my phone is working again now.. weird and annoying stuff. I filed an FTC complain. Might seem excessive but I looked over those support forums alot today. This is not an isolated issue that is just affecting a small minority of phones that slipped passed quality control. It's also not an issue with t-mobile because they are people who are complaining about the same issues I've had (that got worse over the last 2 weeks) and have AT&T. RYGUY asked for more info in one post to look into the issues being reported so I'm glad they're doing *something* but its definitely not enough. I'm just hoping its not a hardware or design defect in the phone.

pink/red tint in photos is fixed in Cyanogen's 5.0.6

DarkDvr said:
I got some more to add.
21) Does not transform into a huge robot and doesn't save the planet from evil iPhone-transformed robots, leaving our planet defenseless.
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This is the main reason I'm returning mine.

Sony liveview

Anyone got the Sony liveview? I ordered it from play.com but its not arrived yet will post my comments here
Sent from my Dell Streak using Tapatalk

No not yet i will get one after crimbo
What i do have is a Sony bluetooth watch same as a liveview as such and it works very well on the streak
Give us a few pics and a write up when it arrives if you don't mind

I have one
I got mine from Expansys, and how shall I say it?
So far, I am incredibly underwhelmed with it. It is not a finished product, in my opinion. The software you load on your android device is a resource HOG, and the performance is poor. It causes freezes for me, and the design is terrible.
For example, with the wrist strap they include, which makes it only marginally passable as a watch, you have to remove the pin for the band just to charge it. Just minor things like that which make it annoying.
I haven't found a way to get alerts in real-time on the screen like I could with my Sony MBW-150 watch. You have to activate the screen on the liveview to see text messages, etc.
Unless I am missing something, I think you would do well to avoid this. I was really excited for it to arrive, now I find myself wishing I could return it. My only hope now is that SE gets their act together and finished a product that wasn't even ready for release. However, I am not holding my breath...
Hope that helps!
-Rob

Some question:
1. Does the watch alert me instantly if gmail email, sms, call arrives?
2. Can I read my gmail emails on the watch?
if yes, this email marks as read after reading on the PDA?
3. When more emails come, is there any repeated aalert functon?
4. What about the battery usage of the app?
5. Is there any widget?

robroy90 said:
I got mine from Expansys, and how shall I say it?
So far, I am incredibly underwhelmed with it. It is not a finished product, in my opinion. The software you load on your android device is a resource HOG, and the performance is poor. It causes freezes for me, and the design is terrible.
For example, with the wrist strap they include, which makes it only marginally passable as a watch, you have to remove the pin for the band just to charge it. Just minor things like that which make it annoying.
I haven't found a way to get alerts in real-time on the screen like I could with my Sony MBW-150 watch. You have to activate the screen on the liveview to see text messages, etc.
Unless I am missing something, I think you would do well to avoid this. I was really excited for it to arrive, now I find myself wishing I could return it. My only hope now is that SE gets their act together and finished a product that wasn't even ready for release. However, I am not holding my breath...
Hope that helps!
-Rob
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Thanks for that think i will stick to my MBW-150 With Open Watch great program for the watch

lufc said:
Thanks for that think i will stick to my MBW-150 With Open Watch great program for the watch
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Hey does ur watch show whos calling? or just that you had a missed call? does it beep or vibrate on incoming notifications?

deekdeek said:
Hey does ur watch show whos calling? or just that you had a missed call? does it beep or vibrate on incoming notifications?
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It shows who is calling.
it vibrates not beeps.

deekdeek said:
Hey does ur watch show whos calling? or just that you had a missed call? does it beep or vibrate on incoming notifications?
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It Does
- Start on boot
- Call notification (name or number)
- Silent/reject incoming call
- SMS notification (name or number and text preview)
- MMS notification
- Media player control (play/pause, next/previous track, volume up/down)
- Music info (track and artist)
- Gmail notification (sender and subject)
- K-9 mail notification (sender and subject)
- Calendar notification (time and event name)
- Alarm notification
- IM notification (Mundu IM - sender and text preview, Hi AIM/MSN/Yahoo)
- Display number of unread SMS+MMS, Gmail, missed calls, battery
- Ability to Silence ringer on incoming call
- English, Russian, Greek, German, Swedish, Norwegian, French, Czech fonts
- Slovak, Polish accents stripping
- Any language support for mail/sms/music/appointment (Chinese, Japanese, Korean...)
- English, German and Czech localization (contact me if you want to translate the text or improve it)
- Notification bar icon
If you use Openwatch great program for the mbw-150

Sounds awsome i might grab one.
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I have received the LiveView via an Australian online reseller, and although it can pair with my Archos 70 running Android 2.2, I can't find the LiveView application in Market. I have searched for about a week using different versions of the name -- it doesn't show up at all. I have found and downloaded the plugins for Gmail, etc. but all useless unless I have the main app. Even when I use the LiveWare Manager and it asks me to download LiveView from Market it still can't find it. I live is Australia, so is this a location issue? Can someone help me out here? Can this app be sideloaded from somewhere else? The LiveView is pretty useless without it...

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robroy90 said:
I got mine from Expansys, and how shall I say it?
So far, I am incredibly underwhelmed with it. It is not a finished product, in my opinion. The software you load on your android device is a resource HOG, and the performance is poor. It causes freezes for me, and the design is terrible.
For example, with the wrist strap they include, which makes it only marginally passable as a watch, you have to remove the pin for the band just to charge it. Just minor things like that which make it annoying.
I haven't found a way to get alerts in real-time on the screen like I could with my Sony MBW-150 watch. You have to activate the screen on the liveview to see text messages, etc.
Unless I am missing something, I think you would do well to avoid this. I was really excited for it to arrive, now I find myself wishing I could return it. My only hope now is that SE gets their act together and finished a product that wasn't even ready for release. However, I am not holding my breath...
Hope that helps!
-Rob
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New firmware update in January might help you out?
http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/22/sony-ericsson-liveview-getting-much-needed-january-update/

Crikey maybe mine getting lost in the post was a god send. Might tryagain if they are in the sale
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it's easy to get.

Andrew de Quincey has some technical details on the LiveView (You'll have to Google his name as I'm too new to post links).
According to him, the protocol is pretty simple, so tossing the original Sony implementation into the garbage and starting over shouldn't be too hard. Then again, this is a guy who figured out how to write Kindlets without the KDK

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i currently own a liveview with the update they did back in January. so far works perfectly no disconnect issues and real time updates very handy gadget has saved me from fumbling for my phone so many times

Well I got one.......eventually!....damn you play.com
Well its not too bad....some details
@Size - its quite thick and would be better if it was thinner. But not so thick its a problem/eyesore.
@strap - is an elasticated black Velcro affair. Not that sturdy but ok. Ibam looking to replace the strap with something wider and more robust/stylish. Negative is that the liveview can pop out of its holder if bashed hard enough. It doesnt need to be that hard. The problem is thst you can lose it this way. Mist times I dropped it it stayed in the sleave of my coat Alternatively there is a clip.
@operation - pretty simple.
Turn it on. Pair with phone. Then connect with liveview app on phone. Go into settings to connect twitter/facebook/plugins etc.
Notifications vibrate on your wrist.
To look at notifications then press button twice (First press gives you the time). To scroll press the outer part of the display. Not great way to navigate but it works. Buttons would prob be better.
@connectivity - the update has improved connectivity significantly. Before it was pretty much unusable. It still loses connection every now and again but at a managabke level.(although I have noticed djsteve rom 1.7 onwards has made it worse.
@battery life - since the update I get a days life, often more. It depends on how many disconnects you get. However the battery level indicator needs some work, it shows full when it isn't and the only time it doesn't show full is when it shows 3/4 which indicate its almost out of charge.
@screen and menu - this is not so great. The icons don't fill out the screen. They look washed out in appearance.
@general - i bought this not expecting too much, but as an investment in something that will improve on the next generation. In its current incarnation is ok, and I certainly don't regret buying it and when its connected I find its notifications very useful. I also use it as a watch, so for £50 its not a bad accessory.
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robroy90 said:
For example, with the wrist strap they include, which makes it only marginally passable as a watch, you have to remove the pin for the band just to charge it. Just minor things like that which make it annoying
-Rob
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Thus isn't true. To charge you just pop the watch out of the strap then plug in the charger. However this is the one design fault that means many of these will get lost.
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I broke down and ordered one using a some Amazon gift card $$$ I had. The TL;DR is: Cool concept, so-so implementation, wouldn't buy it again at more than $40.
What really ticked me off was that the official LiveView Facebook plugin asks for a boatload more rights to your account than it really needs. IIRC, it wants the ability to write to your wall and read your data any time. There's a Gmail plugin, but it's third party and I'm not sure I really want to put my Gmail credentials into something provided by an unknown third party.

I must say.. trust SE to come up with such crap.. don't get me wrong.. I think their devices are good to decent.. however Liveview is just HORRIBLE.. bluetooth dc almost every few hours and doesn't get reconnected back.. Make is kinda plasticky and the frame holder is not tight enough. I believe a normal knock on a busy subway would detach the device. I only used it for less then 2 weeks and I gave up on it.. its still in my drawer rotting away coz i dun even think its right to sell it off to anyone.
If you want a good watch for ID or alert purposes, I would say SE MBW-150 is the best.. only thing now is if you can find it.. I wouldn't recommend any second hand for this unless you can check on it physically prior to purchase.. make sure the LCD is still bright.. I'm on the second MBW-150.. LCD on the first one already dimed out till unreadable after more than a year.
I'm currently also on another inPulse watch. Got it for few weeks now. Its not great but I'd say it has potential.. they just gotta make the battery life better and have better QC.. my first set was way faulty but at least support was prompt and they got me a good replacement.

just bought an incredible s. questions?

hi there. i bought this phone yesterday and it's great. i love it. best phone i've ever owned.
however i have a few niggling questions;
i find the touch buttons to be very difficult to see in sunlight. is there a way to brighten them? or are all the phones like this. my mother has a galaxy s and i feel her touch buttons are brighter.
is the power button meant to be so slim to the phone? i can find it hard to press sometimes.
secondly, how come my LED notification light only stays on for a short time when i receive a text? i would have thought it stayed on until the text was read, but when i get a text and don't notice for half an hour to an hour the LED isn't flashing. if i receive a text (and i'm there to notice it) the LED flashes. again, is this just my phone or everyones?
also, how safe is it to install the swype beta on your phone? and how safe is it downloading pdf's (accidentally, opened a link on a reputable train website) on to my phone over the 3G network?
and finally, not as important, but the standard version of angry birds seems to always lag/crash at startup. i don't know whether it's due to the ads, but i have to hit home before i am able to click 'start', and then the same again when the level loads up before i can move the birds. i've played rio and that seems fine.
OH, and one more thing. if i go from an area with good 3g reception to an area with poor 3g, and then back again, my phone takes a while to catch up, so i have to turn off mobile networks and then back on again to get 3g back. normal?
sorry for all the questions.
thanks. peace.

Hi there martyfly1990,
Congratulations on your purchase and I hope you'll enjoy your phone as much as everyone here!
I won't be able to answer all of your questions but I'll try to help you out the best I can:
i find the touch buttons to be very difficult to see in sunlight. is there a way to brighten them? or are all the phones like this. my mother has a galaxy s and i feel her touch buttons are brighter.
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The Incredible S's capacitive buttons have a unique feature compared to other devices, they get to turn when you put your phone in landscape mode (only in one direction). In order to achieve this, they use a different method of illumination. What you may also notice is a kind of ghost of the buttons secondary positions beneath what is displayed in a round border if looked at at the right angle. However, it also gives the possibility to have nothing at all showing up when the lights are off giving it a cool look (I find ). Compared to other phones I've seen, I'd say that it's normal for the IS to have slightly less bright touch buttons.
is the power button meant to be so slim to the phone? i can find it hard to press sometimes.
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The IS was given what some people call a very industrial look. Aside from the back cover, the phone is very minimal in the sense that nothing extrudes from it. The power as well as the volume rocker buttons are even the same colour as the body. All to give it that slab look. The volume rocker sticks close to the body too, and I'm sure your phone is perfectly fine. You'll get used to it
and how safe is it downloading pdf's (accidentally, opened a link on a reputable train website) on to my phone over the 3G network?
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If you trust the source (and are sure that the file is indeed a pdf, there is no problem at all.
and finally, not as important, but the standard version of angry birds seems to always lag/crash at startup. i don't know whether it's due to the ads, but i have to hit home before i am able to click 'start', and then the same again when the level loads up before i can move the birds. i've played rio and that seems fine.
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I will presume that your phone is still stock? I haven't had that problem with Angry Birds, but did you try uninstalling it and installing it back on? Worth giving a try.
OH, and one more thing. if i go from an area with good 3g reception to an area with poor 3g, and then back again, my phone takes a while to catch up, so i have to turn off mobile networks and then back on again to get 3g back. normal?
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The reaction time not being immediate is normal, but how long do mean by "a while"? 10 seconds or 10minutes? I could only think of a radio problem if it's really bad. Could you share what version of android and what's your baseband version on your phone?

martyfly1990 said:
secondly, how come my LED notification light only stays on for a short time when i receive a text? i would have thought it stayed on until the text was read, but when i get a text and don't notice for half an hour to an hour the LED isn't flashing. if i receive a text (and i'm there to notice it) the LED flashes. again, is this just my phone or everyones?
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I think that other question has been answered so i will skip it.
LED notification i will only last for 5 minutes, so far i haven found out any ways to stretch up the time until we read the message or any other notification.
I think they set it to only 5 minutes properly of the battery drain?
Hope its help.