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Poor voice clarity

I have been using the 8925 for about 3 weeks now. On occasion, my phone will act as if I have a weak signal. Choppy voice etc., on both ends even when connected to a landline. The signal strength will usually have at least 2bars, W/ 3G displayed. The phone will play audio & video W/ out chopping or skipping and this doesn’t always occur in the same area, so I'm unsure what would be causing this. Any comments or advice (pertaining to my issue ), would be greatly appreciated.
Tobe

what network are you on are u using a sim or a usim
how old is your sim
do you have a spare handset to try your sim in?
have u raised this with your carrier? any known site issues in your area
have you tried manually roaming to see if this fixes the problem?

yea mine is also kinda poor too.
i have a cingular 3g sim card, i can put it in my sda and get full bars, but with this i get 2 bars most of the time.

they say this happends when your phone is connected to 3g and phone at the sametime. try turning off the 3g and initiating a call again

Turn off 3G?
I appreciate the replies.
1. I am on the At&T network
2. Sim
3. No spare phones to sim swap
ChInEsE ChIcKeN said:
this happends when your phone is connected to 3g and phone at the sametime. try turning off the 3g and initiating a call again
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Since I am located in a major city, 3G is on all the time. Shouldn't the device automatically make voice a priority over data once a call is made or accepted W/ out the user having to shut it down? Let alone having to tell the person on the other end; "Let me call you back, I have to turn off the 3G so my calls won't sound like shizit."
Tobe

**Update**
At&T told me they performed an over the air sync to my device. So far, I have not sen any improvement. I've even tried to shutdown the data before talking on the phone. Now AT&T is telling me to return the phone, since I only purchased it on Nov. 14th and they now believe the device is faulty.
Tobe

Here we go again
This is my second 8925 now & still the same thing W/ chopped up conversations, even when I have full bars and am making calls to landlines.
I have tried to disable the 3G prior to calling etc. Also, this never seems happen in the same area, so I don't think it's a coverage issue.
Is anyone else having this problem on the at&t network?
Thanks,
Tobe

I was having alot of the same issue until I upgraded my tilt to xda live 1.2 is current version. The new radio in that rom made a big difference in my neighborhood.

xda live 1.2
sirooga said:
I was having alot of the same issue until I upgraded my tilt to xda live 1.2 is current version. The new radio in that rom made a big difference in my neighborhood.
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Umm ok, but did the xda live 1.2 rom improve the voice clarity as well?

Is this normal? Signal Loss

Hi:
I have a Tilt on AT&T's network. Today I was about an hour away from home, and noticed a complete loss of signal. My other phone, a Motorola Razr V3xx, had 3 bars of signal at the same time. I had this same problem in the same rural area before, and just assumed there was nothing I could do about it.
This time though I decided to turn off 3G on the Tilt (since I know it can sometimes interfere with reception), and still nothing. Then I did a soft reset (still had 3G off), and I finally found a signal, as well as the Roaming icon.
Is this normal behavior? The Razr also has 3G, but apparently must switch over to edge when it is in a non-3G area. Why would my Tilt need to be manually reset in order to find a signal?
Thanks!

Hi:
I'd really appreciate any reply
Even if it's to tell me that this is unheard of behavior. My warranty is about to expire, and need to have my phone replaced before it expires if this is a fault unique to my phone.
Thanks again!

cincy1020 said:
Hi:
I have a Tilt on AT&T's network. Today I was about an hour away from home, and noticed a complete loss of signal. My other phone, a Motorola Razr V3xx, had 3 bars of signal at the same time. I had this same problem in the same rural area before, and just assumed there was nothing I could do about it.
This time though I decided to turn off 3G on the Tilt (since I know it can sometimes interfere with reception), and still nothing. Then I did a soft reset (still had 3G off), and I finally found a signal, as well as the Roaming icon.
Is this normal behavior? The Razr also has 3G, but apparently must switch over to edge when it is in a non-3G area. Why would my Tilt need to be manually reset in order to find a signal?
Thanks!
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I'm not sure why but your phone should have switched automatically. For me, I have my band set to GSM manually.

Are you using usually using 3G with no problem? There's a hardware fault in some devices that will appear about a few months of usage where 3G becomes inoperative. When connected on 3G calls will fail, and one needs to force GSM and reboot to be able to use the phone again. Return to service center needed for repair, mine is there now.

Hi:
Thanks so much for your replies!
I think I probably need a replacement phone, so I guess on Monday I'll call and spend the 15+ hours p) on the phone to AT&T to get a new one, lol.
Kilrah, yes my 3G usually works fine, but apparently when I go into a non 3G area it just loses signal. My phone never really gets great reception anyway, so hopefully the replacement will be an all around improvement.
Thanks again!!

my Kaiser do not work with 3G only works on GSM

Suddenly it had happened; NO 3G nor GPRS data transmission. I can see the 3G sign , but when I make calls the phone disconnects; when somebody call me, he received a message that my phone is off line. Only when 3G signal is on. But when normal GSM is on, everything will be OK. My phone can not get data from the internet, even though it shows that is is connected. I tried all of the above solutions to fix this problem but no helpand sometimes it shows 3g sign but as soon as i try to call some1 all the signals are gone.. I tried to hard reset and try it before installing any software, no help. I tried mostly all available ROMs and Radio ROMs; even the original, but not fixed. I do not what to do. Now, I am using the phone with GSM only, NO 3G. Please help!!!

nunu said:
Suddenly it had happened; NO 3G nor GPRS data transmission. I can see the 3G sign , but when I make calls the phone disconnects; when somebody call me, he received a message that my phone is off line. Only when 3G signal is on. But when normal GSM is on, everything will be OK. My phone can not get data from the internet, even though it shows that is is connected. I tried all of the above solutions to fix this problem but no helpand sometimes it shows 3g sign but as soon as i try to call some1 all the signals are gone.. I tried to hard reset and try it before installing any software, no help. I tried mostly all available ROMs and Radio ROMs; even the original, but not fixed. I do not what to do. Now, I am using the phone with GSM only, NO 3G. Please help!!!
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Might kinda help to tell folks where you live. Country? State/province?

UK,London
thnx for your reply i live in London,United Kingdom

Signal lost, this might help...
nunu said:
Suddenly it had happened; NO 3G nor GPRS data transmission. I can see the 3G sign , but when I make calls the phone disconnects; when somebody call me, he received a message that my phone is off line. Only when 3G signal is on. But when normal GSM is on, everything will be OK. My phone can not get data from the internet, even though it shows that is is connected. I tried all of the above solutions to fix this problem but no helpand sometimes it shows 3g sign but as soon as i try to call some1 all the signals are gone.. I tried to hard reset and try it before installing any software, no help. I tried mostly all available ROMs and Radio ROMs; even the original, but not fixed. I do not what to do. Now, I am using the phone with GSM only, NO 3G. Please help!!!
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Hi there nunu,
I had the same problem, went back to the store and nope not a known problem.... So I started to troubleshoot this
1. normal G connection
2. 3G appears or even H
3. signal lost and after 30 sec. the cycle starts again.
what worked for me was the changing the of the radio version. I am currently in the Netherlands and here the NEON_Radinly_1.65.24.36 works fine, I confirmed it by loading a rom with a different radio in it and the result was again the same.
hope this helped in any way...
Let me (us) know.
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life is good, but life get's much better with a Kaiser

are you trying to connect with [email protected] / cingular1 ?
this is the kinda information you should have put in your first post
I use the above and have zero problems in Philadelphia

My 3G went out for like a day here (Phone only worked on Edge), then it started working again. Cellular carriers do have outages from time to time. Has it been a long while since it stopped working?

nunu said:
Suddenly it had happened; NO 3G nor GPRS data transmission. I can see the 3G sign , but when I make calls the phone disconnects; when somebody call me, he received a message that my phone is off line. Only when 3G signal is on. But when normal GSM is on, everything will be OK. My phone can not get data from the internet, even though it shows that is is connected. I tried all of the above solutions to fix this problem but no helpand sometimes it shows 3g sign but as soon as i try to call some1 all the signals are gone.. I tried to hard reset and try it before installing any software, no help. I tried mostly all available ROMs and Radio ROMs; even the original, but not fixed. I do not what to do. Now, I am using the phone with GSM only, NO 3G. Please help!!!
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Flash to a different compatible radio. If you do not get 3G/H service back, then you have a hardware issue with your radio, and will need to have the phone serviced.

what newtwork are you on?
have you tried your sim in a different handset?
what happens when running in gsm only mode?
in settings phone network change selection to manual and tap find networks and reselect network (this is known as a manual roam) does this make a difference?

Same here!, im in montreal, canada with Rogers, and in 3g doesnt work, it detects the 3G network, but as soon as i try to make a call or go on the internet it looses the signal and i have to go on GSM mode.
and i'm using LKDV12 but i still had the same problem on AT&T Original rom, and Dual V2.
Anyone?

Major problem --
I have been travelling round the world for a year and have the same problem, Have tried many radios, if I use 3G( wscdma) or auto band then the signal drops everytime i try to make a call, and no data is possible however if I use gsm only data and voice work fine, thease symptoms are on many networks, Chile, Easter Island,Tahiti, NZ, Fiji, Optus ( OZ ), and m1 ( singapore ),
Radios tried
EMO 1.71.09.01
Neon 1.65.24.36
1.65.21.18 ( att )
I even loaded the generic dopod rom + radio and it didnt seem to help.
Is it possible something low level has changed whilst doing all this flashing ?
Or could the Hard SPL affect something.
I always try to buy a 3G USIM in each country and test the sim in a backup G800 to ensure the carrier has enabled 3g data okay.
Phone is Kaiser ( HTC TytnII )
ROM is varied but and usually lorentis series roms -- L26 12 light atm
Symptoms, 3G icon shows but data wont connect, if you try to call radio strength bar drops to zero and cell communications are lost , sometimes reestablishes comms but often needs soft reset to band switch to work.
If 3G icon not showing all calls and GPRS data works Okay.
Personally I would not expect this to be a hardware failiure as many others are experiencing teh same fault and for working hardware to fail in use is more erratic in the failiure mode, but a low level register, or some other type of protocol corruption could easiliy be the cause......
The proven "high GPS current consumption in standby" issue is also present as it seems to be on all Kaisers but afaik the root cause of this was never resolved either .....

my Kaiser do not work with 3G only works on GSM NEED HELP
HI I´m from mexico telcel gsm band and the same problm works on my kaiser tried changing the rom put the htc rom again the radio too
settingsROM 1.62.502.0 WINDOWS MOBILE 6 BUILD 1828.0.4.4
RADIO 1.27.14.09
PROTOCOL 22.45.88.07H
by the way how can i make it work on gsm only or edge or other than 3g that doesn't work
tks for your assistance iñm getting frustrated
edge

nunu said:
Suddenly it had happened; NO 3G nor GPRS data transmission. I can see the 3G sign , but when I make calls the phone disconnects; when somebody call me, he received a message that my phone is off line. Only when 3G signal is on. But when normal GSM is on, everything will be OK. My phone can not get data from the internet, even though it shows that is is connected. I tried all of the above solutions to fix this problem but no helpand sometimes it shows 3g sign but as soon as i try to call some1 all the signals are gone.. I tried to hard reset and try it before installing any software, no help. I tried mostly all available ROMs and Radio ROMs; even the original, but not fixed. I do not what to do. Now, I am using the phone with GSM only, NO 3G. Please help!!!
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i have the same problem did you make it work how you set a gsm band instead of the 3g on the phone tks for your assis
dr.vogel

I have the same problem. Already had it with WM6.0 original HTC ROM (Finnish ROM, but language set to English). Then sent it to service. It came back, they said they "reapplied software or smth" and it worked after that. Then after 6.1 update again, the same problem (even with the latest updated Radio ROM).
When I set band selection to auto, it picks up 3G or even H but tends to loose it and definetly looses connection to network if I try to make a call. Can't take any incoming calls either.
It works ok when I force it to use GSM (EDGE for data) on Band selection tab, in phone properties.
I probably won't bother taking it to service anymore cause there is no local service here in Estonia, they ship it to Finland and it will take a minimum of 3 weeks...
... so I'm waiting for Xperia X1 and hope it's not as much HTC.

nunu said:
Suddenly it had happened; NO 3G nor GPRS data transmission. I can see the 3G sign , but when I make calls the phone disconnects; when somebody call me, he received a message that my phone is off line. Only when 3G signal is on. But when normal GSM is on, everything will be OK. My phone can not get data from the internet, even though it shows that is is connected. I tried all of the above solutions to fix this problem but no helpand sometimes it shows 3g sign but as soon as i try to call some1 all the signals are gone.. I tried to hard reset and try it before installing any software, no help. I tried mostly all available ROMs and Radio ROMs; even the original, but not fixed. I do not what to do. Now, I am using the phone with GSM only, NO 3G. Please help!!!
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Read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335074
Hardware problem, repair needed and unavoidable to get 3G functionality back.

I have the same problem.
I bought an O2 Stellar (Kaiser) from a work colleague and it worked fine on 3G/Auto on the day I bought it.
The next morning, when I switched on the phone, it had exactly the symptoms described (i.e. it would only work if forced into GSM mode).
My colleague took it back to O2 under warranty.
1 week later, it was returned as 'fixed', but it actually still had the problem, so my colleague returned it again to O2.
Another week later, O2 provided a replacement unit under warranty.
The replacement worked fine, until the next morning when I turned on the phone and had to force it into GSM mode again because it wouldn't work in 3G/Auto mode.
I'm on 3 in the UK and I suspect the problem is something to do with the roaming onto Orange GSM which happens when there is no 3G signal from 3UK. However, on the day each of the units worked, it was switching between 3G and GSM repeatedly because the 3G signal is fairly poor in my office.
I'm now waiting for my colleague to return from his holiday so that he can return this unit to O2 and we'll see if we get another replacement. If we do, I'm very reluctant to actually use it - I think I'll probably just sell it on and get something different. Shame because I really like the Kaiser.

as mentioned before, another thing that you should've tried is to call the helpline and see if there's an outage in your area. I've been experiencing the same problem in a very particular area (3G hand-off to EDGE problem only happens on campus). Tried different radios and problem still exist, so I gave them a call today and turned out that there is an outage here.

In my case, it's not caused by a network outage - 3G works fine on my Hermes in the same locations.
Good thought though.

Relax boys...I have'd the same problem... The only solution is to go with your phone for warranty return. There they will change your TyTN II mother board and all will be ok. IT IS THE ONLY WAY.
PS do the same thing I did http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=418375

i post this thead and the solution
i post this tread an the solution came on tha answer of various of you great ideas i get the solution changing the rom and the wm to 6.1 and the rom is the dutty's it has worked almost perfectly in any wy itested only some install on the gps progrms but no mayor problem tks all you friens for a great support

The same thing has happened to me as well (Orange UK).
Initially I thought that it was an outage in my area as my friends had problems connecting to 3G as well, but their problem has been fixed but I still cannot.
I'll be contacting their tech support dept. later today and I'll post back.

3G Connectivity

I have an Orange branded TyTn II, and it never connects up to 3G even though the area i live in is well covered by 3G.
It mostly stays on G. It has changed to E (EDGE) on occasions but thats it.
I am from the UK and live in the yorkshire area.
Anybody got any ideas, or do i need to speak to Orange?
Thanks

ahanson said:
I have an Orange branded TyTn II, and it never connects up to 3G even though the area i live in is well covered by 3G.
It mostly stays on G. It has changed to E (EDGE) on occasions but thats it.
I am from the UK and live in the yorkshire area.
Anybody got any ideas, or do i need to speak to Orange?
Thanks
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Did u check the band settings in settings/personal/phone?

I went into the settings and it says it is set to Auto.
So i would presume it would pick upthe best signal?

ahanson said:
I went into the settings and it says it is set to Auto.
So i would presume it would pick upthe best signal?
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Yes, at least that is doing in my case.

If that is the case any other ideas as to what it could be, and why the phone does not detect 3G?
Thanks

ahanson said:
If that is the case any other ideas as to what it could be, and why the phone does not detect 3G?
Thanks
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Where are u from?
Go to commanager and check if there is 3g turned on.
Did u try to search this forum?

Check my first post for location.
In comm manager there is no option for 3G, the only other choice i can see is data connection, and i cannot turn this on.

The Connection button is only used to disconnect active data connections.
I ,along with some friends, have also been having problems with Orange's 3G the last few days (I just came back to the UK so I'm not sure how far back the problem started - my friends say its been like this for at least a week). Not sure if it is related though. Oh, I live in Essex.

ahanson said:
Check my first post for location.
In comm manager there is no option for 3G, the only other choice i can see is data connection, and i cannot turn this on.
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U can install advanced config tool, and there under menu u can choose the layout of the commanager(there u can put the 3G button on the screen). But it could be the above mention reason.

My problem just got more complicated.
Have a look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2606166

Hi alt236,
The strange thing is my unit has recently come back from repair, and the main board has been replaced, under warranty, because of a dodgy ROM flash, and the 3G still does not work.

Weird.
Have you tried with a different SIM card?

Ok, I just had a chat with Orange support. Thankfully I got a pretty helpful guy
Anyway, according to him, Orange does not fully support 3G yet (at least not officially) as only about 50% of their masts are 3G enabled. This means that they get network congestion problems causing devices not to connect or drop connections unexpectedly.
His advice was to try to connect at different times of the day, and to force the connection on the Kaiser (not to set it to auto).
As I live in an area with 4-5 3G masts immediately around me (yes, I know I will die from cancer ) its a bit weird for me to be unable to connect, but I'll give it another go, at a unsociable hour (4 in the morning for example) and see what happens then.
He did ask me if I wanted to get my phone tested though, so if it doesn't work tonight, I'll send it off and hope for the best.

Nice One alt236, that would explain the lack of 3G.
I will give it a go at different times of the day and see what happens.
Thnx

No luck with my overnight test.
I passed by an Orange shop in town this morning and I spoke with one of the staff members there.
He proposed that before I ship it out, I should call 156 which is technical support for data enquiries (MMS/WAP & WEB/Email) and PDA's as they can see what my phone is actually trying to do when connecting and push updated settings to it.
I've tried calling a couple of times today, but the queue is too long. I'll post back when I have news.

i have the exact same problem, please let me know what orange have to say!

Help

My city just got 3g yesterday and I am having a big problem. I cannot connect
to the network at all when 3g is turned on. Shows 3g is connected..but I can't make any calls, or get on the web or even text message. After a min or so, it shows I am not connected to anything then it will do it all again. If I turn on only use 2g, I have no problems and I connect with Edge. I have 3 other friends who have g1's, one is rooted liked myself and no one has any problems. Any Ideas? I was originally using dwang 1.14 rom, but changed to cyanogen 4.2.8.1 and it doesn't make a difference.

spankymclovin said:
My city just got 3g yesterday and I am having a big problem. I cannot connect
to the network at all when 3g is turned on. Shows 3g is connected..but I can't make any calls, or get on the web or even text message. After a min or so, it shows I am not connected to anything then it will do it all again. If I turn on only use 2g, I have no problems and I connect with Edge. I have 3 other friends who have g1's, one is rooted liked myself and no one has any problems. Any Ideas? I was originally using dwang 1.14 rom, but changed to cyanogen 4.2.8.1 and it doesn't make a difference.
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i had a problem like urs when 3g was first introduced in my city..the problem was just the area i was in and the young 3g network.. 3g worked other place but not around my house, eventhough i got reception.. so i suggest, first try the 3g somewhere closer to downtown or something and see if problem still presists.

Yea, I tried that. I was at work with the three other guys who have a g1 and they all had no problem with 3g. But, me on the other hand just couldn't connect for anything. It would show connected to 3g, but I couldn't place a call..send a text or get on the web...that after a few seconds would show no service at all...strange.

I just tried reinstalling the radio, but still didn't fix it.

it might be the sim i had the same problem they just gave me a new one at the tmobile store

Ok, got a different sim card and I am having the same problem. Any other ideas.

contact your carrier say 3g is not registering to your phone, and the may tell you how to set the network back up.. my friend had the same problem with his rooted g1, he called tmobile they said its not set right.. all he said his phone came with special optional capabilites.. and the tellar said.. "can you do that to my phone"

spankymclovin said:
Ok, got a different sim card and I am having the same problem. Any other ideas.
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try putting ur sim in another g1 i dunno if you have to register it or not though and see if you can make calls that way with 3g it might be just some setting on the phone or something