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I want my kaiser look like HTC TOUCH or I-PHONE

i wanna upgrade my kaiser like HTC Touch or I-phone all visual effects like scrolling explorer and contact search etc.
i find a video but i dont know how to do it can anybody help me?
i want exactly this one like on the video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzyTUVIerP8

I propose a ban
I propose banning people who post threads like these. Are you serious? Dude, if you don't know how to mod your phone perhaps you should read through the forum and figure it out, and if you have a specific question, then feel free to ask it. Don't just say I don't know how to do it. You obviously are too lazy to figure it out by doing some basic reading.

i searched but i dont know where will i start

Let me guess, you searched one time and gave up? Well, I did one search too: I searched the word "iphone" in thread titles and displayed the results with the most views first: TA DA!!!
First link - "iphone App for WM - LookALike"
EDIT: Link was dead, updated it.

That's a silly suggestion...
bigsmooth469 said:
I propose banning people who post threads like these.
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We all have a right to opinions even if we disagree. Banning for this sort of thing is silly.
However, I agree they need to do homework and figure out what path they really would like to take before the step off the curb. This one is stepping right into an oncomming bus.

@jayopa86
Welcome to XDA-Dev
Just for guidance:
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Given you are fairly new to this sort of thing, you will be better served if you post in the Kaiser Forum. (Not Kaiser Upgrading which is largely about ROM Flashing and the more advanced development stuff.)
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Marm0lade above has given you a page of links (See link in his post) I hope you see how easy it was for him to search and get that page of iphone threads.
3.
Soon we are going to have a new Forum for Members who are Beginners, this will be a good place to post this kind of question.
I am going to move this thread to the regular Kaiser forum.
I may also close the thread in the next day or so, because the answers are there if you care to hunt around. However, if anyone wants to give you helpful, constructive advice about how to go about finding suitable information they can do so in the next few hours.
Mike

Most of that doesnt look like an iPhone to me. And I really dont want the main screen of the iPhone, but the way he navigates through all of the menu's and stuff is nice. Is that done through the cube?

my95z34 said:
Most of that doesnt look like an iPhone to me. And I really dont want the main screen of the iPhone, but the way he navigates through all of the menu's and stuff is nice. Is that done through the cube?
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Well, to check out Cube info see here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Cube
Mike

for somewhat the same menu interface or some other shell than wm has to offer you can use spb shell 2 (google xda for it)
it gives a nice cube/touch interface wich can be customized also there are alot of programs out there that enhance your phone like camera album,long endkey,big startmeu,s2u2,fff,touch commander and many more i suggest start reading the forum and use the wiki/google search this forum for answers good luck...

jayopa86 said:
i wanna upgrade my kaiser like HTC Touch or I-phone all visual effects like scrolling explorer and contact search etc.
i find a video but i dont know how to do it can anybody help me?
i want exactly this one like on the video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzyTUVIerP8
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The hardest bit will be making a new case, and interfacing a new wide screen, then virtualising Apple OS to run under Windows, it would run like a dog.

mrg2003 said:
The hardest bit will be making a new case, and interfacing a new wide screen, then virtualising Apple OS to run under Windows, it would run like a dog.
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bigsmooth469 said:
I propose banning people who post threads like these. Are you serious? Dude, if you don't know how to mod your phone perhaps you should read through the forum and figure it out, and if you have a specific question, then feel free to ask it. Don't just say I don't know how to do it. You obviously are too lazy to figure it out by doing some basic reading.
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are u nuts!!! how wud u like if the table turns on u. i myn thats jus like kids fighting over a lollipop!!

i actually like what is in that video. i know what some of the apps are, like the cube which i have had, but some of the other stuff i havent even seen. that is one good rom if thats what it is. giving a few pointers to a newbie is not going to kill you ;-)

I concur, That video is one I haven't seen before. I noticed the HTC Cube on there. but before he pulled that up he had another screen he was flipping in the same manner. What the heck program is that?
My phones all modded up and such. But that proggy makes me jealous.

i know, ive been searching for the last 40 mins trying to find those applications, im no noob at installing or searching, but theres so much to go through can anyone tell me what progs have been added inc the ones from the today menu. any halp appreciated, all i want to knwo is the names. TIA

This may help...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1993679&postcount=1

Jay2TheRescue said:
This may help...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1993679&postcount=1
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hmmmm, thanks for that, should think about removing TheRescue part of your ID.

mrg2003 said:
The hardest bit will be making a new case, and interfacing a new wide screen, then virtualising Apple OS to run under Windows, it would run like a dog.
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LMAO!!! Classic response, thank you!

swazpurohit said:
hmmmm, thanks for that, should think about removing TheRescue part of your ID.
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ok, finally after about an hour of searching, think i got most of it. The beginning part is Slide2unlock, the minic ube thing looks like its ultimate launcher, the main cube - 4 sides - seems to be SCLPC. i will check on my stellar and report back. thanks to thos with the helpful advice as some people on XDA-Developers were born like geniuses to come 2therescue - whatever. this board is the best and will be the best. its all about helping out.

swazpurohit said:
hmmmm, thanks for that, should think about removing TheRescue part of your ID.
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Well, if you must know I have been using that user name, (and variations thereof) all over the internet for almost 20 years now. I used to drive an ambulance before I opened my own business. That's where it came from. Still, there is a lot to be learned from reading the stickies & the Wiki. I've seen the following link posted many times, and I feel its far more blunt than what I linked to... http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php At least I showed you that there is hope by reading the information available. Trust me, it could have been much worse. You can easily get flamed here if you ask without reading the Wiki first.
-Jay

I'm a noob!! HELP!!!!

I have an AT&T Tilt and i wanted to put some stuff on it so if you people have any programs that you would like for me to put on it that would be great. I also have been wondering what an "unlocked" device was. lol thanks.
I also have a 2G Micro SD card FYI

is this a joke?

Start with the GWENI link in my signature... others may not be so nice.

NotATreoFan said:
Start with the GWENI link in my signature... others may not be so nice.
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Scratch that.. Start by taking the initiative to open your eyes and read the threads around you. There is a software forum that maybe you need to look into, because it seems that is your interest. Don't come in here and expect to be spoon fed, I'm fresh out of baby food. The big thing is that there are other threads on the main page that are just like this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393181
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393627

I got the spoon, someone else provide the food.
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no im totally serious i got referred here by a friend and im not a computer teky so i was wondering if there is anything good that i should put on my phone. I dont understand all this stuff about new roms and stuf. i was just asking for help and if you dont want to give it to me then please dont reply

ah it's a normal forum troll who is having fun.
no im totally serious i got referred here by a friend and im not a computer teky so i was wondering if there is anything good that i should put on my phone. I dont understand all this stuff about new roms and stuf. i was just asking for help and if you dont want to give it to me then please dont reply
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And help was provided in the form of links.
Oh can someone make a cool icon of that spoon. You know, one that is a bit smaller that could be added to a sig.

I'm almost thinking we need to create a new forum section called Kaiser > N00bz...since there are so many self professed noobs who have recently been littering general (or worse) with posts like this.
It is one thing to ask a question that has been asked before...I admit sometimes it is very difficult to weed out the relevant information from a search (even if spending 4 hours reading). It is quite another to post something like this which isn't really even a question....more like a request for spoonfeeding.
I think posts like these need to be deleted upon creation.

this is my first time on this site okay? I dont know what to look for. I saw the general discussion about asking questions so i asked a question. should people who dont have knowledge about these things get pushed away because they arent as smart as some of you?

well...u dont need to be smart to know how to search and read the stickies...if u claim to be a noob...which u stated in the title...chances are that other noobs like u have already asked that question that u may have...so a simple search or read around the forum would give u the general basic knowledge u need

thank you mr. nice person i just dont know what exactly to search for and i didnt know that there were other posts like mine so my bad for "littering" your forums.

hapijuice said:
this is my first time on this site okay? I dont know what to look for. I saw the general discussion about asking questions so i asked a question. should people who dont have knowledge about these things get pushed away because they arent as smart as some of you?
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hapi... I am not wanting to bash you specifically. This is a problem that has been plaguing this site for quite a while.
First, you must realize that the name of this site is XDA-DEVELOPERS. It is meant for people who have an interest, and hopefully some skill in developing software for XDA devices. At the very least it would indicate some tweaking/hacking skills to existing software.
If you are clueless (and i don't mean that negatively) about any of these things it isn't exactly the place to be posting, even in the general forum.
This is like walking into an auto mechanics convention and screaming out "Hey can someone tell me what a car is and where I can get one?"
However, we are always open to new faces and if you took the time to look around on your own you would probably learn a few things and answer many of your own questions. After a short while you would probably be able to post with a more informed outlook.
In general, this is universal forum ettiquite, not specific to this site.
As a new user, perhaps you could tell us how we might better design this site to help this situation not happen?
Were things not clearly listed?
Were they listed but you just didn't read them?
Did you read them but not understand them?
Did you understand them and just not care?
Did you care and were just lazy?
These are honest questions to help the community understand how we can better server newcomers.

well i came here because i showed my friend my phone and he said here go to this site and look around. so i did and i just had a question and i needed help. i have a desire to learn about this stuff so i can get some nice stuff for my phone but right now i am kind of clueless. so all i wanted was maybe some programs that were on this site that i could download and that you super tekys think would be good for a starter. and some of the thread things were unclear... like i dont understand what they do and stuff..

Come on guys give the guy a break!
The attitude on here is very much RTFM etc. which is fair enough but I wouldn't object to a noob forum either. There is no comprehensive noob guides, its a discussion forum with about 50 peoples different opinions on what you need and inevitably going into too much detail... I specialise in seperating the wheat from the chaff and really for the average joe there's no harm in it being more accessible.
But as others have said in the current state of play all you can do is read. To flash your rom:
1. Install hardspl on your kaiser
2. Find a ROM you like in the rom development section (be aware: Roms with windows mobile 6.1 you need to install a 6.1 Radio ROM too, the process is the same as installing a ROM)
They all come with instructions pretty much, make sure to back everything up first. There are a lot of good applications out there but if you find a good ROM chef for example dutty (there are a lot, I only mention him because I use his roms) they will often have a full fat ROM with a lot of nice applications bundled in.
As for this being a 'pros only' forum, well how do you get new members? I spend plenty of time on hexus.net which is a tech enthusiast forum and there are tonnes of noobs who don't know a graphics card from a hard drive, but there's still plenty of helpful advice.
+1 For the newbie question section though.
And I think going to mediawiki would be beneficial too.

hapijuice said:
no im totally serious i got referred here by a friend and im not a computer teky so i was wondering if there is anything good that i should put on my phone. I dont understand all this stuff about new roms and stuf. i was just asking for help and if you dont want to give it to me then please dont reply
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The phrase "general discussion " doesn't mean walk in and ask anything. It means after you have done your reading and research if you have a question that doesn't fit into a specific catagory here , then post it in "general"
You have walked into a graduate physics class and said " teach me science people ." That being said , Check out the wiki here and at htcwiki.com go to the TILT Home page. Go over all your download options and information on those pages. Then come back with specific questions or problems.
You will then find that people here can be incredibly friendly and helpful. Well except for a few of you and you know who you are

hapijuice said:
well i came here because i showed my friend my phone and he said here go to this site and look around. so i did and i just had a question and i needed help. i have a desire to learn about this stuff so i can get some nice stuff for my phone but right now i am kind of clueless. so all i wanted was maybe some programs that were on this site that i could download and that you super tekys think would be good for a starter. and some of the thread things were unclear... like i dont understand what they do and stuff..
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The thing is the applications tend to be specific to what you want to do, ROMs are brilliant for improved performance but you really do need to read the bundled information first, it's not as hard as it first looks but if you mess up you could brick your phone.
Applications I frequently use:
- Google Maps (You can use your GPS for free effectively, and even if you can't get a satellite lock it's good at guesstimating your location)
- Quickmenu is start menu replacement that is better in a lot of ways
- Total commander is like windows explorer, (or file explorer) but much more robust and better, generally
- Battery status is a nice application that tells you how much battery you've got left and has some powersaving options
- Opera is better than internet explorer but it's still in beta and is not free
I've also got some games:
- kevtris
- ms pacman
That are good for burning time when I'm bored.

Septastrum said:
Come on guys give the guy a break!
The attitude on here is very much RTFM etc. which is fair enough but I wouldn't object to a noob forum either. There is no comprehensive noob guides, its a discussion forum with about 50 peoples different opinions on what you need and inevitably going into too much detail... I specialise in seperating the wheat from the chaff and really for the average joe there's no harm in it being more accessible.
....
As for this being a 'pros only' forum, well how do you get new members? I spend plenty of time on hexus.net which is a tech enthusiast forum and there are tonnes of noobs who don't know a graphics card from a hard drive, but there's still plenty of helpful advice.
+1 For the newbie question section though.
And I think going to mediawiki would be beneficial too.
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Yes I was serious about a noobz forum. The problem is that many people i think get here via google and just get into a section and don't bother to read anything.
We need to realize that the internet is so common now, it shouldn't be different than real life. You need to know where is the proper place to go for something, and how to ask for it.
As for new members, we welcome them, and after some investment in their own knowledge, they will become productive members.
Alas, there will always be people like you (no offense meant) that will spoonfeed baby yelps like these. However I suspect in a couple of months you too will get tired of it. I always try to help a new user when I can, but not when 0 effort has been made.
Again, I don't mean to bash the OP here, thus my genuine questions about what can be done to help make this more accessible without spoonfeeding. I really think the noobz forum might help and I can't see that trying it out would be a big deal.

uu r not new to the web, r u? read the forum stickies they will answer all ur questions

ok thanks for the help but i gotta go so i appreciate the help and ill try not to be a loser and litter your forums anymore.
and no im not new to the web...

bengalih said:
Again, I don't mean to bash the OP here, thus my genuine questions about what can be done to help make this more accessible without spoonfeeding. I really think the noobz forum might help and I can't see that trying it out would be a big deal.
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Would also give mods the power to move noob questions to the noob forum i.e. keeping the kaiser general forum clean.
I tend to lurk most of the time anyway waiting for new roms so am not always going out of my way to help noobs but certainly whenever someone asks me a question directly I don't mind answering it.

you tube not workin on HTC handset

over the last few days youtube hasnt been working for me when i click on the video i want to view the program says connecting then after a few seconds it says 'unable to connect'
can anyone help please

**This is not intended as a flame**
A) This topic has been covered 9,999,999,999,999,999e10 times on the forum before
B) You need to provide more information. (ROM version, program being used for YouTube, etc...)

SEARCH and you will find the answer to you question. (See my sig for a link.) As NotATreoFan stated, this has been asked and answered.
It amazes me that people just drop into the forum and ask a question providing no information about their device or what they have done already to troubleshoot their issue. (In most cases this is because they have done nothing.) Rather conceited of you to think that YOUR configuration is the only one. There are thousands of device\Rom\radio\apps combinations out there. Even if we wanted to help you we couldn't since you have given us ZERO information about your device. All we know is it is an HTC Handset, which means it is one of a dozens of different possibilities.
Don't waste your time, and forum space, by posting generic questions like this. In fact, don't even respond to me. Just go search for your answer.

kimtyson said:
SEARCH and you will find the answer to you question. (See my sig for a link.) As NotATreoFan stated, this has been asked and answered.
It amazes me that people just drop into the forum and ask a question providing no information about their device or what they have done already to troubleshoot their issue. (In most cases this is because they have done nothing.) Rather conceited of you to think that YOUR configuration is the only one. There are thousands of device\Rom\radio\apps combinations out there. Even if we wanted to help you we couldn't since you have given us ZERO information about your device. All we know is it is an HTC Handset, which means it is one of a dozens of different possibilities.
Don't waste your time, and forum space, by posting generic questions like this. In fact, don't even respond to me. Just go search for your answer.
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Wow ! And I thought I had a problem with caffeine in the morning. Sounds like he may have meant is there a problem with you tube. But I could be wrong.

kimtyson said:
SEARCH and you will find the answer to you question. (See my sig for a link.) As NotATreoFan stated, this has been asked and answered.
It amazes me that people just drop into the forum and ask a question providing no information about their device or what they have done already to troubleshoot their issue. (In most cases this is because they have done nothing.) Rather conceited of you to think that YOUR configuration is the only one. There are thousands of device\Rom\radio\apps combinations out there. Even if we wanted to help you we couldn't since you have given us ZERO information about your device. All we know is it is an HTC Handset, which means it is one of a dozens of different possibilities.
Don't waste your time, and forum space, by posting generic questions like this. In fact, don't even respond to me. Just go search for your answer.
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well excuse me for asking a "mod edit" simple answer, jesus this is a good way to loose members "mod edit", jesus i wont "mod edit" bother in future

NotATreoFan said:
**This is not intended as a flame**
A) This topic has been covered 9,999,999,999,999,999e10 times on the forum before
B) You need to provide more information. (ROM version, program being used for YouTube, etc...)
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ok so my rom version is 1.56.405.5 radio version is 1.27.12.11 and the program is 'streaming media' by htc version 2.20, hope that helps

xero01uk said:
ok so my rom version is 1.56.405.5 radio version is 1.27.12.11 and the program is 'streaming media' by htc version 2.20, hope that helps
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The Kaiser does not have native support for YouTube. You should download and install a program called TCPMP, and also download the FlashVideoBundle plugin for it. I cannot point you to a specific link because there are several different versions of TCPMP/FlashVideoBundle, so you have to experiment and find which one works for the ROM you are running.

thanks for a quick reply, at least some people are decent on here, but after comments like that off other members in not coming back...
this community needs some decent members!!!!
denco7 go "mod edit" yourself

You QUIT Flaming other members. This only make you as bad as them.
The reason they told you to search it this. If you had used the Search function and entered "how to play youtube" you would have found a bunch of answers.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=385227
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=320962
So What have we learned here.
1. Youtube is not supported Native.
2. Search Will yield Results, I promise.
3. You catch more flys with honey versus vinegar.
4. Don't be rude, even if someone else "started it."
Follow these rules and you will have a happy forum life.

xero01uk said:
well excuse me for asking a "mod edit" simple answer, jesus this is a good way to loose members "mod edit", jesus i wont "mod edit" bother in future
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I understand your anger but in the future, please don't swear at other members unless you want to enjoy a vacation at BANville. Read the flashing red message in my signature or follow the link to the forum rules to understand why I edited your post.
Thank you for understanding.

I love mods...
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denco7 go "mod edit" yourself
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Lol, I can't stop laughing at this.... I think I'll go "mod edit" myself now...

ah I remember the days when I flamed newbs for incomplete or unsearched threads. Sigh. Sniffle I miss them.

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denco7 go "mod edit" yourself
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Excuse me ? You little ass wipe .... I was defending you and telling kimtyson to relax a little.
Now you can take your 50 IQ and inability to figure out a simple electronic device and your " membership " and shove it up your ass. Asshole!
Sorry, I needed to make a point. Edit away P1
Edit 2 : If I considered someone like that a " member " then it would be swearing at another member.

ROFL, too bad there is not a way for nub cakes to unregister so as to not muddy up the nice clean waters of XDA w/ 'how do i play youtuube on me locked phone frum da AT and T's pluz! HALP MAI!' f'n nub cakes never use search...

I'm sure someone is getting banned or something. REGARDLESS>>>
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Or spread the word and start using the Search Plug in in my Sig.
Yes i don't put my device type and rom in my sig.
But i used to have it, made my life easier not needing to retype the device type and rom i was running when reporting issues.

wow
i see you people still reserve your passionate hatred for anybody who is just asking for some help
i would like to point out that:
A) youtube is supported natively using the mobile youtube service
B) occasionally, maybe its just a bit better to respond by suggesting or asking for more information, as opposed to just shouting back "You need to provide more information"...way to help

HHeee yyaawww HHEEEEYYYAAAWWW
i had to

try installing flash player
i once had a cooked rom that was playing youtube i (think) and i am pretty sure it was released by Hyperdragon look at his roms
xero01uk said:
over the last few days youtube hasnt been working for me when i click on the video i want to view the program says connecting then after a few seconds it says 'unable to connect'
can anyone help please
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andrewkeith5 said:
wow
i see you people still reserve your passionate hatred for anybody who is just asking for some help
i would like to point out that:
A) youtube is supported natively using the mobile youtube service
B) occasionally, maybe its just a bit better to respond by suggesting or asking for more information, as opposed to just shouting back "You need to provide more information"...way to help
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Dude. Seriously?
This thread had died a spectacular death. And you, being a troll, dig it up and open old wounds.
You win first prize in silliness today

Iphone suggestions

After my third Hermes breaking on me (although this last one was actually my fault) I have decided to switch over to an Iphone for awhile. Does anyone know of any good websites for information on Iphone mods? Thanks for any help.

why phone
oops bad word on this forum matey iphone? whats one of those?
Phones: Orange HTC Touch Diamond
Rom: 1.93.405.1 WWE
Rom Date : 21/09/08.
Radio: 1.20 OliNex.
Ext Rom :SwiftBL Diamond V7.0 Full (16 mb Pagepool)
HSPL : 1.40 OliNex.
Diamond SIM/CID/Security Unlocker.
Orange SPV M3100 ( Hermes 100 )
Rom : S64_WM_6.1_TouchFlo2D
Rom Date : 22/09/08.
Radio : 1.56.70.11
HSPL : 1.40 Olipro.
Hermes SIM/CID/Security Unlocker.

I'm actually enjoying it so far. I'm not quite as tech savy as some of you out there so it works just fine for me. Has most of the options I want and i didnt have to throw a bunch of tweaks at it to get them (yet anyway). As long as it doesn't break like my other three hermes' i'll be fine with it (even though i sorta broke the last one, it was already on it's way out with keys not responding). I'll give HTC a year or two to work out some of their issues and try an HTC phone out again then.

bump
no advice?

branden7 said:
no advice?
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Check this www.iphonetopsites.com or alternatively google for "Iphone Sites"
EDIT: -On reflection maybe i should have ignored this post this is after all a WM site lol

hackint0sh.org, in my mind, is the equivalent to iPhone's XDA-Developers. I haven't spent a ton of time on the site, but there's a lot of good info there.

Wrong forum to ask mate
Here is an HTC only devices forum
And a lot of users have no good opinions about iphoney....
Anyway good luck

orb3000 said:
Wrong forum to ask mate
Here is an HTC only devices forum
And a lot of users have no good opinions about iphoney....
Anyway good luck
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That's why it's in the off-topic forum... Right place to ask, as lots of people on here are interested in pocket PC's and not just HTC devices. I don't JUST like HTC products, but in generalized forums you don't find nearly as much information about each device.

Thank you for the replies. Sorry to cause such a commotion, I really liked the support and friendliness (up until now anyway) of these boards and I was hoping to find that for my Iphone somewhere...

branden7 said:
Thank you for the replies. Sorry to cause such a commotion, I really liked the support and friendliness (up until now anyway) of these boards and I was hoping to find that for my Iphone somewhere...
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The issue is, about 99% of the users here don't care about the iPhone, which I'm sure you already know, but you can't tell me you expected anything different.

TheChampJT said:
The issue is, about 99% of the users here don't care about the iPhone, which I'm sure you already know, but you can't tell me you expected anything different.
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Yeah, I mean, why would he ever expect people on this forum to try to help him out even if it's not something they love? The issue is that the people who don't like the iPhone feel the need to force their opinions down others' throats, even when a simple question is asked in the correct forum. The original poster was 0% in the wrong here, all he wanted was the same support for his new phone. It's like everyone has told me since I've come here, if your post doesn't contribute to the forum, why are you posting? Do I love the iPhone? No. Would I ever buy one for myself? Hell no. Am I going to bash a kid for asking where to get support for his? No, I'll share what information I have and move on. I feel like your post is just condoning flaming people that have a different view than yours and saying it's okay to do... It's not.
Edit: Realized mod needed to move the thread, so the OP was 5% in the wrong... Now he's all set.

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Yeah, I mean, why would he ever expect people on this forum to try to help him out even if it's not something they love? The issue is that the people who don't like the iPhone feel the need to force their opinions down others' throats, even when a simple question is asked in the correct forum. The original poster was 0% in the wrong here, all he wanted was the same support for his new phone. It's like everyone has told me since I've come here, if your post doesn't contribute to the forum, why are you posting? Do I love the iPhone? No. Would I ever buy one for myself? Hell no. Am I going to bash a kid for asking where to get support for his? No, I'll share what information I have and move on. I feel like your post is just condoning flaming people that have a different view than yours and saying it's okay to do... It's not.
Edit: Realized mod needed to move the thread, so the OP was 5% in the wrong... Now he's all set.
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My first part was going to mention the moving of the thread, but I see you've noticed it. The point of the statement is, there are randomly iPhone threads that pop up here and there, and nobody wants to help with them, since it's the competition. My reply was not an open invitation for rude comments, just simply putting, if you ask a WM community about an iPhone, don't expect 100% help and participation like the rest of the WM threads.

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..........it just doesn't look right.
the same way this post doesn't look right on this website.

joel2009 said:
..........it just doesn't look right.
the same way this post doesn't look right on this website.
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The Samsung Omnia thread doesn't look right in an HTC forum, nor do the many threads of off-topic discussing the bible, or even the thread the guy made for his 2 year old daughter who's going through a really rough time... That's why it's the off-topic section, where you can find help for things other than HTC phones. Am I losing my mind, or is that the entire reason the creators of XDA-Dev came up with this section? I don't know about you, but I wanted to help the guy regardless of him owning an Apple product over HTC, that's why I posted relevant and useful information. Apparently people aren't here "just to help" like I originally thought this forum was about, they're here "just to help those who like our brand"... I missed the fine print.

i think you guys are blowing this out of proportion its really not a big deal...the OP got the info he wanted (along with some joshing) and thats about it...

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i think you guys are blowing this out of proportion its really not a big deal...the OP got the info he wanted (along with some joshing) and thats about it...
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I just don't like the selective discrimination here, it's okay to not help someone because it's an iPhone, but if someone comes asking for help with a Fuze unhelpful posts are frowned upon? The attitude of "you can't expect better" is one that holds the forum down, let's just try to be more helpful no matter what the topic.

Black93300ZX said:
That's why it's in the off-topic forum... Right place to ask, as lots of people on here are interested in pocket PC's and not just HTC devices. I don't JUST like HTC products, but in generalized forums you don't find nearly as much information about each device.
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In that case please go to this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=314455

orb3000 said:
In that case please go to this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=314455
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Yeah I saw that, I think it's pretty sad... 6th graders have nothing better to do than try to put down things they feel threatened by. As I said I'm not a fan of the iPhone myself, but it's a good phone, and once some bugs are worked out (HTC never has bugs, right?) it'll definitely compete with the best. Also, when an iPhone has a problem you take it to an Apple store and they replace it at the Genius Bar with no problems if it's something they can't fix. If your Touch Pro has a problem? Get ready to ship it out and wait 2 weeks. Yellow spots on screens, fuzziness, not nearly as crisp as the Euro version's screen... Those are problems we've seen out of the box in the first week of the US version, and luckily they show up quick so they can be returned to the retailer. If you have problems with it in a month? Well, I hope you have a backup.

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Yeah I saw that, I think it's pretty sad... 6th graders have nothing better to do than try to put down things they feel threatened by. As I said I'm not a fan of the iPhone myself, but it's a good phone, and once some bugs are worked out (HTC never has bugs, right?) it'll definitely compete with the best. Also, when an iPhone has a problem you take it to an Apple store and they replace it at the Genius Bar with no problems if it's something they can't fix. If your Touch Pro has a problem? Get ready to ship it out and wait 2 weeks. Yellow spots on screens, fuzziness, not nearly as crisp as the Euro version's screen... Those are problems we've seen out of the box in the first week of the US version, and luckily they show up quick so they can be returned to the retailer. If you have problems with it in a month? Well, I hope you have a backup.
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Ok I understand your point now mate
So you will understand mine also, it´s no matter of how good or bad is the iphone, it´s the fact that we are on an HTC devices forum.
Is like if I go to the Toyota forum and post how wonderfull is my Ford or if someone can recommend me a part.
HTC has a lot of bugs also but thanks to this fantastic HTC forum we can have and share so many ROM´s software and knowledge!
By the way HTC HD would really beat Iphone
Cheers

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Ok I understand your point now mate
So you will understand mine also, it´s no matter of how good or bad is the iphone, it´s the fact that we are on an HTC devices forum.
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I'm so glad to know you became moderator! Because, as far as I've seen, the mods let discussions continue about other phones. They say they won't make a sub-forum for them, which makes sense, but discussion in off-topic about other phones (as you can see there are many threads about the Omnia in off-topic) are permitted. So until you get a little badge that says "moderator" or "administrator", I don't see why you feel you have the final say on others asking about different phones. In EVERY SINGLE THREAD that isn't about an HTC device you have to jump in and say why the thread shouldn't be there, yet the moderators who make the decisions allow it to be. Let them run the forum.

Which ROM to use???

Alright, before some people get started, I have read the noob's sticky and have done the HardSPL and such. I am just having SO MANY problem's with everything (just the AT&T Tilt, I need to get rid of the AT&T crap) so I just want to know what ROM people would recomend for person who doens't need crazy special program's. All I use is the internet and text msging and some GPS. What is the fastest ROM with pretty much the most basic program's on it?
I had the AT&T Rom which I unlocked by getting the unlock code and then I did the hard reset and configured the phone and then a soft reset before the AT&T crap got loaded onto my phone but now I can't set up the internet???? (I think's it's because I don't have the AT&T program to turn off the proxy?)
I know you guy's get a lot of these question's that seem stupid but I am new to the Kaiser so help would be very much appreciatted.

1. Wrong forum.
2. Everybody has their own taste.
3. Test them all out and see which you like best.
4. Thread's going to probably get closed.

haha search? it's all good just search a lot before posting personally i spend atleast two days searching threads and trying things before i post up my problem.

You should start trying the last Official Rom, look for them in the wiki
Good Luck!

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Well, I don't think this is the wrong forum to ask - it has nothing to do with ROM DEVELOPMENT, it is just a general question!
I too would say: try the latest offical HTC ROM - it has no user customization / user preferred application integrated and is almost clean. In addition, it has everything to get you started, from AUTO NETWORK / INTERNET CONFIGURATION to STREAMING MEDIA PLAYER.

Alright, before some people get started, I have read the noob's sticky and have done the HardSPL and such. I am just having SO MANY problem's with everything (just the AT&T Tilt, I need to get rid of the AT&T crap) so I just want to know what ROM people would recomend for person who doens't need crazy special program's. All I use is the internet and text msging and some GPS. What is the fastest ROM with pretty much the most basic program's on it?
I had the AT&T Rom which I unlocked by getting the unlock code and then I did the hard reset and configured the phone and then a soft reset before the AT&T crap got loaded onto my phone but now I can't set up the internet???? (I think's it's because I don't have the AT&T program to turn off the proxy?)
I know you guy's get a lot of these question's that seem stupid but I am new to the Kaiser so help would be very much appreciatted.
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I would prefer the newest firmware from Zelmer Iron.
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I think it is hilarious how people just LOVE to get on other's ass's about simple question's. I am asking for people OPINION'S!!!!!!!!! If you don't feel like giving one well hell, THEN DON'T!!!!!! Also the wrong forum thing, that's strange because I don't think that I am developing any rom's am I? I thought this was a "general" question? It's funny because when I have talked to people on other site's, this is EXACTLY what they said about some people here, instead of just helping you the love to chirp about nothing.
Well thank's to the one person to recomended the HTC ROM. I appreciatte 1 decent person.

carltmac said:
I think it is hilarious how people just LOVE to get on other's ass's about simple question's. I am asking for people OPINION'S!!!!!!!!! If you don't feel like giving one well hell, THEN DON'T!!!!!! Also the wrong forum thing, that's strange because I don't think that I am developing any rom's am I? I thought this was a "general" question? It's funny because when I have talked to people on other site's, this is EXACTLY what they said about some people here, instead of just helping you the love to chirp about nothing.
Well thank's to the one person to recomended the HTC ROM. I appreciatte 1 decent person.
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You know, it's not even that, but when you get ongoing threads about the same idea, it gets extremely annoying.
The ROM i like wont necessarily be the ROM that you like; it's a matter of taste and content.
Anyhow, to answer your question, i'm on my own Kareem's RevROM v4.44.

I understand what your saying 100%, the only thing is what do I search? Like I went to the "built in forum search" and when I type in what I am looking for (under Kaiser obviously) I get like 100 thread's that each have 100 page's? I am not trying to be that lazy guy that want's everything done, I am just that new guy that want's to learn how to make a good phone freaking awesome.
Thank's for the help, I'll give that ROM a shot.
Also this will clear 100% everything off of my phone and just let me start new correct?????
I want to get this internet going since I am paying for 6GB's a month haha.

For me some of the best Kaiser Roms are ROMeOS 4.6 (no manilla) and Solace 1.5 or 2.0 Beta (manilla 2D).
Unfortunately both Chefs have moved on from cooking Kaiser roms, so those are probably the last versions of each.
Anyway, those Roms are fast, and use the minimalistic mentality. They do not come with anything extra, however there are extra applications in the extended ROM if you want to install them.

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I understand what your saying 100%, the only thing is what do I search? Like I went to the "built in forum search" and when I type in what I am looking for (under Kaiser obviously) I get like 100 thread's that each have 100 page's? I am not trying to be that lazy guy that want's everything done, I am just that new guy that want's to learn how to make a good phone freaking awesome.
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That is exactly the point. The reason you get 100 different threads when you search is because of threads like this one. Now the next guy will get 101 different threads.
This place is a great database of knowledge, but these threads don't add anything to that. Nothing new will be learned in this thread - no new problem solved. Threads like this just make the informative posts and knowledge gaining threads less likely to be found.
People aren't getting on you because they don't want to help or they just want to yell, it's because they see the big picture. They see that in trying to help yourself, you are hurting everyone else.
My Tilt is the first phone I've ever had that could do more than call someone, yet using only information that I've gleaned from this site, I've been able to unlock my phone, flash dozens of different ROMs, flash dozens of different radios, write my own scripts, and develop my own small apps to accomplish what I wanted to do. The key part here is that I did all of this without starting a single thread. I'm sure there are hundreds of others who can say the same thing....and it's probably why they seem annoyed. They know it's possible to find the information because they've done it....but they also know that it's now becoming increasingly more difficult to find it again.
If you don't know what to search for, just start browsing the ROM development forum and look for the threads that are the hottest and that have the most posts. That will tell you which ROMs people are using. Find a handful of them and read the details. See which ones look the cleanest and don't have the apps that you don't want (or have the ones that you do).....and then try a few. Kareem's right - my answer is going to be different than his or anybody else's. There will be just as many answers as there are ROMs, so looking through the ROMs themselves seems like the obvious way to get the information you seek.
You can be a great contributor to this place by taking the time to find the information that is already present, and in doing so, making it easier for the next user to do the same.

As noted in the link below, all "best roms" threads will be closed/deleted. I am going to close this one and then will delete it later.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=377http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=443265