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Charging Tytn II with alternative USB Wall Charger

Can the Tytn II be charged with other USB wall chargers other than what comes with the package? I have 4 alternative wall chargers:
(1) USB wall charger for Blackberry 8707g
(2) TravelPac world travel adapter with USB charger
(3) USB wall charger for Aliph Jawbone
(4) USB wall charger for O2 Atom Life
I do charge the Tytn II through USB cable connected to my PC. However, I was reading somewhere that this is ill advised, as from a device longevity perspective it is always better to charge using AC Adaptor chargers as opposed charging through the PC, not sure how true it is. I do see under the “Power” settings that there is an option to turn “When device is turned on, do not charge the battery when connected to the PC”, so maybe there is some truth to it.
In any case, my biggest concern is with the wall charger for my Blackberry. The Blackberry seems to be using somewhat different voltage from other USB chargers as I am not able to charge the Blackberry with any other charger other than its own wall charger or through the PC. For example, charging the Blackberry through the TravelPac adaptor more often than not does not work.
Question is, can I (safely) charge my Tytn II with other USB wall chargers? Any downside from using non-HTC chargers? Thanks

Unless someone has already tried one of those other chargers and can post their success here, I would not try it - there have been reports of generic car-chargers and the like frying circuitry on the Kaiser, as the USB power connection is wired differently to some (superficially similar) devices. It's not really worth risking it, when I'm sure you can pick up a spare HTC charger for not much.
I charge from USB everyday at the office (and the mains, when I'm away from work for more than a couple of days) and after three months my battery performance seems much the same as everyone else reports - in fact, better than some. I know opinions differ on whether these modern batteries have any kind of "memory effect" or benefit from a proper discharge cycle etc - personally I've seen no evidence of that. In any case, absolute worst case scenario is buying a new battery some way down the line - given that there are already higher capacity aftermarket versions of the stock battery on sale, that might not even be a bad thing.
With my old Sony Ericsson M600i I used to find that USB charging would never bring the phone to full charge (however long I left it), and the 90-odd % charge it did have would never last quite as long as a proper mains charge. No sign of either issue on the Kaiser.

As long as the charger in question is rated at no more than 5v/1A (as the original Kaiser charger) it should be safe. The Kaiser can probably take more than 1A safely tho, but I won't guarantee that. That said, most wall-chargers are rated somewhere around 5v/1A.

Using other chargers

Can I use chargers from other devices that also use mini USB such as my garmin GPS or will they damage my X1?

ive never actually used the charger that came with it(it came with the ugly European plug). if you are going to use a standard USB charger,dont go with one that has higher amps than the official one (i think its 700 miliamps if im not mistaken ) just to be sure
that said. i used the charger for the following devices to charge my x1 (some charge faster than others): Atom EXEC, samsung digital camera, htc wizard, motorolla dumbphone, usb pc cable, xbox360, g1

I charge mine via mini USB cable from PC, mains adaptors (2 different ones), 12V cig lighter adaptor.
BTW PC seems to be the slowest at charging.

THE GRIZZ said:
(it came with the ugly European plug)
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Thanks....
Back to OP:
Yes, but it is not advisable. Check if the other charger has the same specs first.

USB is a standard isn't it? I don't think your at risk frying your XPERIA. If it managed 220 in Europe it will manage 110 here. As for me, I've charged my phone with everything, a USB cable connected to my computer, a car ciggarette charger that came with my Tomtom, and my friends iPhone charer. All worked flawlessly.

yes usb is std
it give 5volts dc
and charger which provide
5volts in the correct usb connector
can charge the device
nothing else matter
amps don't matter as long as it's more then 0.5

Rudegar said:
amps don't matter as long as it's more then 0.5
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From my understanding, if the charger allows 1A, then that is the MAXIMUM it will provide, it won't be trying to supply that all the time.
So if the X1 wants, say, 0.6A, then a 1A charger will work. On the other hand, you wont want to use a 0.5A charger if it is trying to draw 0.6A or whatever higher.
This is just how you can have a massive 900W power supply. You can draw 200W, 300W, etc. but you can't have a 300W power supply and try and draw 500W (unless you like smoke, fire, explosions, etc.)

John is correct. The USB standard 5V is the important bit. Doesn't matter if the device can supply 0.5A or 5A. Most PC USB ports are good for 500mA, the OEM charger is good for 750mA.
A few of my friends have Motorals RazR's that charge via a mini USB, I don't have to worry about packing a charger when staying overnight.
I already had a collection of USB style chargers and mini USB cables before I got the X1. Use my laptop or a Belkin charger (1A) I got for the iPod in the lounge room, a generic USB phone charger in the car (500mA), the OEM SE charger in my bedroom etc, etc.
At 1st I thought oh no, my 3rd SE phone, my 3rd type of memory card and 3rd tye of charger - but I was a winner with the mini USB

Charger HTC specifications

What are the specifications of the official HTC chargers ?
I mean not the voltage/amp, but the way the phone identifies that it is its genuine charger and it can draw max power (ie. up to 1A).
Since normally with a real dumb charger via usb it should not draw more than 100mA (or maybe 500mA but even that would not be USB specification compliant without a proper USB negociation).
I guess this is something like 2 pins shorted on the charger cable ? (or some phones use a specific resistance between 2 plugs as identification)
If I want to charge at max current with a usb car charger, what can I do (short pins) ? And what will be the max current it will try to draw ?
The charger and usb cable provided with my Magic both have standard shaped mini usb plug. Though my collegue's HTC Dream came with HTC shaped mini usb plug. Is there any difference exept in the shape of the plug ?

Current drain
Hi
I have charged my sapphire with a power statin and it indicates about 800 mA of maximum current drain.
I made the charging wire myself from a broken charger so i think you can use any car charger.
The htc shaped mini usb is only to indicate it has charging wires and audio wires.

sportster said:
I made the charging wire myself from a broken charger so i think you can use any car charger.
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Yes you should ba able to, I'm using a Blackberry charge for mine.
Clinton

HD2 killing car chargers??

My HD2 has just killed it's second car charger, grr! Has anyone else had this problem with generic micro USB chargers? Or genuine HTC ones?
The power light comes on in the charger but nothing happens on the phone. My car holder charger was in 2 sections, a mini USB cable to the cradle and then a converter to micro USB in the cradle. If you swap the mini USB cable the rest works, but with the broken cable, the cradle power indicator still lights up.
Thanks in advance if anyone's had the same problem or got some advice.

dizzi141 said:
My HD2 has just killed it's second car charger, grr! Has anyone else had this problem with generic micro USB chargers? Or genuine HTC ones?
The power light comes on in the charger but nothing happens on the phone. My car holder charger was in 2 sections, a mini USB cable to the cradle and then a converter to micro USB in the cradle. If you swap the mini USB cable the rest works, but with the broken cable, the cradle power indicator still lights up.
Thanks in advance if anyone's had the same problem or got some advice.
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How hot is the phone?
If it is too hot (usually from a car charger in a hot environment), the Leo will not charge. The HD2 will blink green and orange.

Hello dizzi141,
Same problem here, already one car charger down. I have a red led burning on the car charger but nothing happens on the device ...
Grtz

My charger is working but charger is getting very hot and it charging the phone very slowly like 7-10 min one percent (%1) any way to fix this problem?

It's not a heat thing as far as I can tell, it works one minute and then next time it's dead. The phone doesn't recognise it's plugged into a charger even.

So the led is not blinking at all? (when plugged in to charger)

Shure that its your htc hd2 killing and not the car ? Cheapass chargers suks bigtime

Power consumption
Could it be that your generic charger is rated at 500mA and the HD2 can draw somewhere between 1500 and 2000mA ?
That might blow a fuse (or burn up the voltage regulator if unfused) in the "el-cheapo" car charger..
Personally, I'm using a 1000mA USB adapter from dealextreme.com
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.34040
and a standard USB cable.
Works perfectly for me.
(Sure, I might get the orange/green LED, but that's because of heat. I get that with original charger too, if it's too hot when I charge.)
Just my two cents...

I used to have a lower power generic car charger but it blew after a couple of months of occasional use.
For 'peace of mind' I brought the official HTC one as advised in the accessories section of their website, it's still working fine now after about 3 months of occasional use (just have to wiggle it around a bit to make a good connection in the socket sometimes).
I do have to align the screen mount to an aircon vent on the dash to keep it cool though, it overheats in no time - and that's just uk heat!

I haven't had any problems with heat or charging. I use this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882021129 , you can get them pretty cheap if you watch their email promos.

I'd agree with Bonzo.
I have tested few chargers (Samsung branded including ).
Everything what was not marked as 1A (1000mA) output was useless.

i use the origininale htc`s car chargers.
they work flawless.
CC-C200 for the hd2
i had a CC-C100 before.

Make non-motorola charger work?

So this is my first motorola and I had heard of the issues they have with non motorola chargers. Now I am experiencing it first hand. With the same ac charger I have charged many phones with and is capable of 1 amp output (D4 charger is only rated at 850 mA) my D4 struggles. With the device off it charged painfully slowly. While on it cannot even charge. It discharges while plugged in despite the charging indicator and reporting "charging (AC)" in status.
How does it know it is not a moto charger? Is it just about the resistance between the data pins? For most other phones shorting the data pins on the charger indicates to the phone that it is a high current charger and not a computer USB port. Is there a similar trick for motorola phones? I would rather not have to purchase an overpriced moto oem car charger. I have a perfectly fine 1.2 amp car charger soldered directly into my car's 12v system behind the dash. Can I make it work?
Thanks!

On a regular basis I successfully charge my D4 using both a charger from a Samsung Reality feature phone and from a B&N Nook Simple Touch, in addition to the one that came with it. I've also used a variety of car chargers.
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Actually, so far I have only one charger that had any trouble charging the phone (it was a $3 charger with 2 USB ports), but the $3 charger with ONE USB port works fine, as does the Nook Color charger, Blackberry charger, and Samsung charger I have tried it with, as well as both my old car charger and Lenovo's always-on charging port on their laptops.

JKingDev said:
So this is my first motorola and I had heard of the issues they have with non motorola chargers. Now I am experiencing it first hand. With the same ac charger I have charged many phones with and is capable of 1 amp output (D4 charger is only rated at 850 mA) my D4 struggles. With the device off it charged painfully slowly. While on it cannot even charge. It discharges while plugged in despite the charging indicator and reporting "charging (AC)" in status.
How does it know it is not a moto charger? Is it just about the resistance between the data pins? For most other phones shorting the data pins on the charger indicates to the phone that it is a high current charger and not a computer USB port. Is there a similar trick for motorola phones? I would rather not have to purchase an overpriced moto oem car charger. I have a perfectly fine 1.2 amp car charger soldered directly into my car's 12v system behind the dash. Can I make it work?
Thanks!
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Not sure how it knows one way or the other. I've successfully used a few LG chargers to charge my D4. The only really hickup I've ran into is the usb cables from those lg chargers won't sync data to the phones when plugged into a computer, they'll still charge off the usb port but won't read as a usb connection to the computer.

Heh, captcha is trynply.
Every charger I've used, including an old charger for an EN-V, kindle, supplied, and various other phone chargers works just fine with this phone. Probably have a bad charger, guy.

Thanks for the replies. I guess I was wrong. My modded car charger works just fine. I guess its just time to retire the old charger that I have been using. I think it might be my old nexus one charger.

A more important question would be does the thing charge over computer-bound USB ports?
When you're without a charger, but there's a USB cable that fits your phone, sometimes a regular USB data port is the only that is around... even though it might take a really long time.
Try a computer bound USB port, then try your actual charger, again. Or do the hard reset (vol down plus power, hold until it actually does it), which is just like pulling the battery.
See how that goes.
Chris

RueTheDayTrebek said:
A more important question would be does the thing charge over computer-bound USB ports?
When you're without a charger, but there's a USB cable that fits your phone, sometimes a regular USB data port is the only that is around... even though it might take a really long time.
Try a computer bound USB port, then try your actual charger, again. Or do the hard reset (vol down plus power, hold until it actually does it), which is just like pulling the battery.
See how that goes.
Chris
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It does in fact charge via USB port. In fact, it has a 'charge only' mode. Depending on how much juice your port puts out, and what you are doing with the phone, it will charge slowly/not at all, though.

from my experiences, the droid 4 will not accept lg microusb cables, the charging bricks work tho. i use a blackberry microusb on mine along with a Logitech and the stock moto ones. 1.2 amps is a bit high but not crazy sounding. personally, I charge at 1 amp.