is it possible / room enough to use a dual sim ? - Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General

i like to know if there is room enough above the sim to use a duosim from duosim.xcom ?

Anyone an idea?

come on , is there any room to place a dual sim ?

Oh, wow. That stuff looks cool. Now I'm curious too.

Yes, there should be room enough.

So, I've tried it and yes it fits but it doesn't work.
The TD has 8 connections to the SIM card and the Magic Sim (www.dual-sim.nl, 16th cut version) has 6 connections. It is 16th gen card which they propose to use for smartphones....
It works on my old Nokia 6021. This phone has 6 connections to the SIM Card.
The cutted SIM Card doesn't work anymore on the TD so I have to purchase a new one. I have sent a mail to dual-sim.nl. I will post the outcome.

number of contacts is irrelevant. Only 6 contacts are used for sim cards, the last 2 are RFU (reserved for future use).
If i read you right, after you cut up your sim card it doesnt work anymore? even directly in the phone without the dual sim? If thats the case your broke your sim while cutting it. The dual sim may or may not work still.

The cutted SIM doesn't work in the TD but does work in the Nokia 6021.
The Magic Sim doesn't work in the TD but does work in the Nokia 6021.
So, my assumption was that the cut is the reason that the SIM card doesn't work anymore on the TD. Strange that it still works in the 6021??

No, there is an incompatability between the magic sim and the touch diamond it sounds like. Only 6 contacts on the sim are used, the last two do nothing.
So if it works fine in your 6021 and not the TD, then its the magic sim that has the problem.
What error do you receive? no sim/insert sim?

SIM card is seen, Magic Sim program is available in teh TD but it doesn't register to the network.

geraldkw said:
SIM card is seen, Magic Sim program is available in teh TD but it doesn't register to the network.
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Hmm thats really strange. What happens when you manually register?

It lists the available networks. KPN (my provider) in one of the them. If I try to connect to this netwerk the same thing occurs: can't register... I can try another network (roaming)?

Hmm that means the IMSI is not being passed corectly.
Sounds like a bug with the multisim itself. Another brand might work.

Not all new USIM cards works fine.
Put your phone on GSM mode instead of WCDMA or Auto.
Then the Dualsim works fine.

someone1234 said:
Hmm that means the IMSI is not being passed corectly.
Sounds like a bug with the multisim itself. Another brand might work.
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Due to your questions I tried it again and came to the conclusion that the cutted SIM card didn't work in the TD because it didn't contacted completely. I also saw a different kind of slide for the Magic Sim which leads to a better contact of the Magic Sim to the TD and now everythong works!!
Thanks someone1234 for taking the effort ask further

geraldkw said:
Thanks someone1234 for taking the effort ask further
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Thats great! no problem.

Does the Dual-sim 16th gen. non-cut version also fit into the TD?
I don't think my employer will appreciate it if I would cut my KPN sim-card of my company phone...

anyone tried the 20th gen dual sim adapters yet?

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Two sim cards ?

Does anyone know if there is a way to use two sim cards at the same time in the Kaiser ? I know that an adapter exist but I don't know if it would fit in the Kaiser ...
Thanks !
If you know more. Please share it with us.
Have you actually seen the sim card holder on a kaiser? its small and only room for one sim (even if you have ribbon cable from it to a 2 sim splitter) the lock mechanism stops any cable coming out so it would have to double back on the sim and come out the side and the side of the sim cover would need shaving to allow that and then on the back the form is moulded for the clearance of the keyboard so even if you stuck it to the back of the screen you will end up snagging it when opening and closing the keyboard.
if someone makes one that works then I will gladly take back what i said above however don't hold your breath.
Russ
I had a ghost Dual SIM adapter for my O2 XDA Exec & needed to cut each SIM down and place in a special Dual SIM holder which was the size of a single SIM. It worked fine, but I haven't had the nerve to cut up another couple of SIMs now that I've got a new T-Mobile VARIO III
weasel said:
I had a ghost Dual SIM adapter for my O2 XDA Exec & needed to cut each SIM down and place in a special Dual SIM holder which was the size of a single SIM. It worked fine, but I haven't had the nerve to cut up another couple of SIMs now that I've got a new T-Mobile VARIO III
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Did that really work? The Kaiser just doesn't support dual SIM(IMHO).
Do you have to switch, or can you be called on 2 SIM's at the same time?
And how do you define the SIM to make the outgoing call?
I'm interested!
Yes, the ghost Dual SIM adapter seems interesting ...
Dual sims
I use them for thre last two years and stopped as they are a battery drain on the phones.
-No you cannot use them at the same time, you need to flick one on and off.
-Handy but not worth battery drain
Network operators may create a service where two numbers (from the same operator) are active on one sim. Perhaps this is not the ideal solution but workable. I believe that TIM and/or Vodafone in Italy (although I'm not from there) provide such a service.
leon100 said:
Network operators may create a service where two numbers (from the same operator) are active on one sim. Perhaps this is not the ideal solution but workable. I believe that TIM and/or Vodafone in Italy (although I'm not from there) provide such a service.
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Orange in the UK provide this service. By pressing the # it switches froms one line to the other to make calls. Calls/SMS can be received on either line regardless of which line is selected for outgoing calls
I have a analogue dual-sim-adapter from http://www.hot-wire-telekom.de working in my Kaiser.
It's working fine with one problem: The operator names are not shown right. The problem was also known with the Artemis, but solvable by a registry change. This change is not working on the Kaiser, because the needed registry key is not present.
Does anyone have a solvation for that?
BiasX said:
I have a analogue dual-sim-adapter from http://www.hot-wire-telekom.de working in my Kaiser.
It's working fine with one problem: The operator names are not shown right. The problem was also known with the Artemis, but solvable by a registry change. This change is not working on the Kaiser, because the needed registry key is not present.
Does anyone have a solvation for that?
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I have the same problem, also using an ana
log daptor. The today plug cab in also does not work in order to change the network, was working fine on the Trinity.
pff , i dont like to cut in my sim cards...
They are from my work.. Is there no other solution?
dual sim card PDA phone
how about this for a change?
http://www.myphone.com.ph/
I'm just waiting for HTC to make a handset like the Kaiser with dual sim slots, its a complete pain when I'm in work carrying a work one. Might be worth suggesting it to them, don't know how much they keep an eye on these sort of forums.
BiasX said:
I have a analogue dual-sim-adapter from http://www.hot-wire-telekom.de working in my Kaiser.
It's working fine with one problem: The operator names are not shown right. The problem was also known with the Artemis, but solvable by a registry change. This change is not working on the Kaiser, because the needed registry key is not present.
Does anyone have a solvation for that?
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The todayplugin.cab doesnt work for me. How do you switch the network?
any updates on this?
how to stitch sims
yeah, I have an o2 flame, and I'm wondering how you choose which sim you want to make an outgoing call on? And can a incoming call come to either of the sims or do you have to switch something?
I recall seeing special tools out there allowing you to copy several sim cards onto one single one. Then when you turn on the phone, you can chose which "virtual" card gets powered up. Check it out on ebay.
do you have a name? for this tool/app ?
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i found something : http://www.duosim.com/supersim.html
will that work?
Look up SIMORE on the web. The adapters have not been fully tested for Kaiser yet (P4550) but as it works on most other HTC units it should be available soon. Also gives many other functions.
This is another snip ya sim system but comes with two adapters to turn them back to full size when needed.
Hope this helps.

Dual Sim is compatible with Kaiser

http://www.simore.ch/en/mobile_phone_accessory/HTC/P4550.html
any1 tested?
I want too, but i want to be sure the today plugin is working correctly
Also if you are roaming, will it switch automaticly ? Or do you need to manually switch provider?
wow that looks pretty good...
i am really interested too....
i think it switches automaticly.
anybody?? this sound really good
Word of advice, while I've been investigating various dual/multi-SIM solutions available on the net, it's become apparant that many of these are quite "fishy". I.e. they don't work as advertised. A lot of issues especially with the newer 3G-SIMs. When it comes down to Simone, they are incredibly expensive and also get quite some pepper on various forums. Don't be fooled by a fancy website
If you absolutely do want to test out a dual-sim solution its probably better to risk a way cheaper solution from e-bay as it seems its mostly the same one or two producers behind most of these products, just sold by many different people/resellers.
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i have used the dual sim adapter without succes. it seems that cutting the original sims has to be done very acurate which i did but no results. Also a lot of pressure has to be aplied on the sims/apapter for good contact otherwise it would work.
may be in near futere i would like to try a non-cut version.
cheers, Steven
There is another way to do this : instead of inserting two, cut, sim cards, you just insert one sim card but programmed with two different sim cards.
I made a thread about this, I just wanted to know if anyone had experience in that : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=349410
This sim card programmer can be found here :
http://www.duosim.com/supersim.html
As it's not very expensive, it could be interesting to test it.
dizzy33 said:
There is another way to do this : instead of inserting two, cut, sim cards, you just insert one sim card but programmed with two different sim cards.
I made a thread about this, I just wanted to know if anyone had experience in that : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=349410
This sim card programmer can be found here :
http://www.duosim.com/supersim.html
As it's not very expensive, it could be interesting to test it.
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The problem with this thing is that it cannot backup the newer SIMs. I tried this with my Cingular 3GSM SIM and it would not work. It only works with older SIMS. So if you have two older SIMs you could be in business.
Steven13 said:
i have used the dual sim adapter without succes. it seems that cutting the original sims has to be done very acurate which i did but no results. Also a lot of pressure has to be aplied on the sims/apapter for good contact otherwise it would work.
may be in near futere i would like to try a non-cut version.
cheers, Steven
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so you have used the one advertised above?
I am using Simore card in my Kaiser for 2 months now...
FYI, Simore cards do not support 3G protocols: I had problems with it (freezes, no access to 3G or 3G+) and phoned Simore company and they confirmed it. I can only use Edge as the best protocol available for data.
For avoiding any problem of freezing, you need to set in the "band" index of the phone parameter menu the type of network you use (GSM or CDMA) instead of leaving the default "automatic" choice. You can leave "auto" for "GSM /UMTS" Band parameter (even though Simore told me to set the first choice: "GSM (900+1800)+UMTS (2100)"...)
moderateinny said:
The problem with this thing is that it cannot backup the newer SIMs. I tried this with my Cingular 3GSM SIM and it would not work. It only works with older SIMS. So if you have two older SIMs you could be in business.
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This is true. It is not yet possible to copy a 3g sim. Someday the code in the sim will be cracked though.
laubet said:
I am using Simore card in my Kaiser for 2 months now...
FYI, Simore cards do not support 3G protocols: I had problems with it (freezes, no access to 3G or 3G+) and phoned Simore company and they confirmed it. I can only use Edge as the best protocol available for data.
For avoiding any problem of freezing, you need to set in the "band" index of the phone parameter menu the type of network you use (GSM or CDMA) instead of leaving the default "automatic" choice. You can leave "auto" for "GSM /UMTS" Band parameter (even though Simore told me to set the first choice: "GSM (900+1800)+UMTS (2100)"...)
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Hi there,
would like to ask you several quick questions:
1. are you mounting two GSM SIM-cards on your SIMore?
2. are you using "SIMore Gold #1" model for the adapter?
please advise (laubet / anyone that has tried it before).
thanks for the reply.
kaiser wrking with gold simore 1
I finall figured out how to get this dual sim card to work. You need to first manually switch the network. For me its T-mobile and AT+T. Once you manually choose the network, then use the sim program to choose the appropriate sim card. For some reason automatic selection of network does not work. Any other way hangs card, or makes network unavailable.

dual sim

hello all. this question may be stupid, but esentially for me: can i made 2 sim cards to work both on my diamond in the same time? I mean to can receive a call on the orange sim card and to receive also to vodafone sim card without to be need to change the sims, or to change the operator? to function both.
I guess there are a couple of mobiles (with two antennas) able to do that (seen one, can't remember the brand and model). With only one antenna what you can do is clone both SIM cards into just one and with a reboot you have the option of starting up with one network or the other (I reckon you can have more than 2). I don't know if it's possible with current SIM cards and can't remember the hardware and software needed to do that.
Oh.. And it's illegal The best option is to have more than one mobile
yes i know about that devices that have 2 antenna's. i was wondering if i can do it on diamond. i know also about that method with 2 sim and after restart to choose the network operator. thx for the answer.

Optimus 4X HD not recognising my sim card (three)

I have just bought an LG P880 and to my horror found that it does not work with my sim card.
Here are the details:
Three Sim card (GA6047) monthly contract
LG P880 unlocked
I have tried the following sim cards and they do work
O2
Orange
I have tried a factory reset and a hard reset with the Three sim card in and out, each time it fails to detect it.
I have tried the Three sim card in the following phones and it does work
HTC 7Pro
Nokia N900
Samsung Galaxy Europa (The phone it came with)
While waiting for Three customer services I tried the Three sim card out of my mobile broadband GA6029 and was shocked to find that it did work.
So here i am with two three sims, one works with the phone, the other doesnt not.
All three said was to go to a shop so they can see it for themselves.
Do any of you have any ideas?
3G is activated? :silly:
Get a new SIM-card ... But it's best if you go to a three store and try one of their sim cards first. Pretty sure it will work. Maybe the sim card batch you got is faulty somehow and just not recognized by the phone. Exchanging the simcard shouldn't cost you anything if there's a technical problem.
Strange. My three sim works. It's a micro sim in an adapter. Maybe there is an alignment problem?
lt100ka said:
I have just bought an LG P880 and to my horror found that it does not work with my sim card.
Here are the details:
Three Sim card (GA6047) monthly contract
LG P880 unlocked
I have tried the following sim cards and they do work
O2
Orange
I have tried a factory reset and a hard reset with the Three sim card in and out, each time it fails to detect it.
I have tried the Three sim card in the following phones and it does work
HTC 7Pro
Nokia N900
Samsung Galaxy Europa (The phone it came with)
While waiting for Three customer services I tried the Three sim card out of my mobile broadband GA6029 and was shocked to find that it did work.
So here i am with two three sims, one works with the phone, the other doesnt not.
All three said was to go to a shop so they can see it for themselves.
Do any of you have any ideas?
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With android I don't know...
With the old K990 I just had to flash with an open firmware.
I have full size three sim works fine, but make sure data is enabled or you won't get a signal...
Sent from my LG-P880 using xda app-developers app
Ok, so an update.
I went to the three store yesterday. They let me try one of their demo sims and that worked. So they gave me a new sim. But once the sim activated, it yet again didnt work. Same as before though. The sim works in several other phones.
Does anyone know about different sim types?
The sim is a normal mini sim. But i am guessing that their are diferent sims for different phones?
Try microSIM from three. Maybe it helps.
lt100ka said:
Do any of you have any ideas?
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I had the same problem with italian sim. I discovered that pulling the sim 1mm over the battery solve the problem. Maybe the contacts of the reader and the ones of the sim are not at the same distance when the sim is full inside the reader.
Hope will help
Wombat said:
I have full size three sim works fine, but make sure data is enabled or you won't get a signal...
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i am not sure its FULL size, since that includes the sim tray which in early 90s and forward was a complete card with simchip you could push out
the regulars or todays sim are mini-sim cards.see more here

No sim card, comes and goes..

My devices sometimes cannot read the sim card, and some times it can. No matter what sim I use, what ROM I use, and I've even tried another sim card reader, but the problem seem to be something else.
Anyone experienced this?
I've been looking for a way to emulate a sim card, like a soft sim solution, but it seem this is not easy..
Maybe it's time to let the old m7 retire...
Anyway, thanks to all contributors in this community, it's been awesome. Merry Christmas and a happy new year.
rbrandser said:
My devices sometimes cannot read the sim card, and some times it can. No matter what sim I use, what ROM I use, and I've even tried another sim card reader, but the problem seem to be something else.
Anyone experienced this?
I've been looking for a way to emulate a sim card, like a soft sim solution, but it seem this is not easy..
Maybe it's time to let the old m7 retire...
Anyway, thanks to all contributors in this community, it's been awesome. Merry Christmas and a happy new year.
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Maybe the sim card isn't making a good contact when inserted in the tray, A few ppl got a similar issue and used paper to shim the sim card (not recommended since your sim tray can get stuck). I would try another sim first...
alray said:
Maybe the sim card isn't making a good contact when inserted in the tray, A few ppl got a similar issue and used paper to shim the sim card (not recommended since your sim tray can get stuck). I would try another sim first...
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Yes, that's a common issue. The first steps was to use a little tape on the sim, second step was to try another sim, third step was to open the device and take out the sim reader, clean it with ethanol, check every pin and so on, then I tried another sim reader, but the problem still remains.
I too have the same problem, of signal on and off. I think the device detected the SIM card as it asked for PIN to unlock. I tried the *#*#4636#*#* to choose WCDMA only / preferred, but still same problem. So, did you retire the beautiful phone of yours?
cryptosporidium said:
I too have the same problem, of signal on and off. I think the device detected the SIM card as it asked for PIN to unlock. I tried the *#*#4636#*#* to choose WCDMA only / preferred, but still same problem. So, did you retire the beautiful phone of yours?
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Since not even replacing the sim reader solved the problem, it can no longer be used as a phone.
And anyway, the battery is getting seriously old, so when my dogs destroyed my remote control, the good old HTC one m7 now have a new life, filled with joy and happiness.
Anymote app is nice, and m7 are now a media control hub in my living room.
Since April 29 2013 this device have improved my life quality, with the good help from this great community on XDA.

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