I was just wondering what the correct way to charge your phone is. I have an AT&T tilt. When the battery would get to like 3% I would just turn it off and then plug in my AC wall charger that came with it and leave it until it was fully charged. But I want to leave my phone on all the time so I dont miss calls, So when I leave it on while charging the phone gets pretty warm and the screen turns on by itself randomly. And when i plugged it in the other night before i went to bed (phone was still on whole night) in the morning I went to wake it up and it wouldnt. When i slid the keyboard out it lit up and everything so it was definitely on, but the screen wouldnt come on no matter what I did. Am i not suppose to be charging it while the phone is still on or leaving it plugged in for a long time after the battery has reached its full charge using the AC wall charger that came with it. Should I instead by one of those cradle chargers cuz dont they have a thing where once your battery is full, it will stop charging it? Any feedback would be really appreciated. Thank you.
hmm i dont really know bout u
but i've really never turned off my phone....the tytnII or any of my previous phones i would just leave it on day and nite and i go to bed i charge it or any time when i'm home if its low on battery
kinda wild how many people torture their batts on acount of that old myth
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=355318&highlight=batt+myth
How are you charging it? Supplied wall charger or USB port?
The supplied wall charger will turn it on initially and it should then turn back to standby as set by your power settings. Make sure you don't have it set to ramain on when on external power.
USB charge connection to PC or laptop will keep polling the phone if Activesync is enabled and turn it on continuosly.
Some external chargers, such as the ones for the previous TyTyn (not TyTynII) required two pins connected to enable charging and if you are using one of those the TyTynII thinks a data connection is being made and randomly powers up.
It's been my experience to keep the battery on a charger whenever possible. Those batteries "like" to be topped off. I have killed a couple of batteries by running them down all the way and trying to bring them back to life. Li Ion batteries are not like NiCads
When I'm driving, it's plugged in. At home, it's on my desk charging. While I sleep, it's charging on my night stand.
I found charging when every possible, and keeping it topped off as much as possible will enable the battery to last longer for those times you can't get to a charger. This has been the case for all the HTC phones I've used.
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hi
last night as usual i turned off my puter left the USB charger hooked up to my 8125 and then turned off my phone. (same process every night) this morning i came in to boot up the puter and turn on the phone, i noticed that the orange "Charging" light was NOT on on the phone. i tried to turn it on and NOTHING!!! i unplugged the USB cable still wont turn on, plugged the phone into the wall (AC) charger this time the orange light came on but the phone still will not come on. it is completely DEAD!!!! just to try something a little different i changed the USB port the cable was plugged into and tried to plug the phone into it again, nothing happend (no charge light, etc) went back to the AC charger and now it wont give the charge light with that charger either HELLP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i am running the 2.17 ROM with very few programs & plugins and the phone has been ROCK solid maybe a few freezes here and there but nothing to even concern me. phone was working perfect last night 10 ,minutes before i turned it off. at the very least i would like to hard reset it to get my personal info off it before the cingular exchange, but i would feel more comfortable dowwngrading the ROM before the exchange as well. if anybody has any suggestions i am ALL ears.
thanks in advance
Take a deep breath.
Now go get your original charger that came with your 8125 plug it in.
You might to try and hit the soft reset as well.
This is a known problem with the wizard family. If worse comes to worse youw will have to get a new battery.
Breath INNNNNNN breath OUTTTTTT
OK thanks for the reply. so just to be clear you are saying this is a battery issue??? i have tried the soft reset button but nothing happens. the phone is completely dead. how can i verify if it is the battery? the phone will not turn on without a battery?? any help is appreciated
thanks again
You will have to plug your phone into the original AC Charger that came with it for a little bit.
The phone (and even the charge led) won't work until there is a minimal charge to the battery.
I had this happen and simply freaked out for about 10 minutes. Man was I happy once that little LED lit up again!
i had my wizard (8125) battery die on me suddenly. but i let it charge until the light came on, then finally let me power the damned thing on. it only had 2% battery left.
thanks again. very strange it has been plugged in all day with no signs of life. all of a sudden i pressed the ON/OFF one more time and it turned on just like it is supposed to, i am going to leave it on the charger all night but i am a little gun shy on whether to keep it or take the replacement from cingular on monday??? i would like to know why this happened so i can avoid it again in the future.
Some chargers are not up to spec. They may provide enough juice so that the phone says it is getting power but the battery does not charge right.
I have my stock wall charger by my bed and each night it goes on that overnight. Just to be safe
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Some chargers are not up to spec. They may provide enough juice so that the phone says it is getting power but the battery does not charge right.
I have my stock wall charger by my bed and each night it goes on that overnight. Just to be safe
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I do the same and have not had a single problem since I started the "Overnight Conditioning".
I used to use a RAZR Moto charger but it is underpowered (only 500mAh).
If you are going to use an off branded charger it has to be a good one and provide 1000mAh. Costs more but worth the investment. I found some nice portable USB Ports (one for the Car and one or AC) that have never failed me and since they are basically just a powered USB port that pushes upto 1000mAh I can use and compatable USB Cable!
hi, new member here.
bought my tilt on 10/4/07. has been flawless since that time.
used the nav quite a bit during a road trip, used a cig lighter usb charger.
got home and my battery was at roughly 40%.
put it on the charger at night went to sleep. in morning disconnected it at 8 am. shortly after i arrived at work i got the critical battery low chime. checked and it had like 7% battery life.
figured i didnt plug it in right, or it got knocked loose some how and didnt get charged.
put it in flight mode to minimize battery usage. left work at 2 30 pm (4% battery life) and put it on the car charger. got home and put it on the HTC supplied wall charger. light turned amber, so i assumed it was charging.
checked an hour later and turned phone on, it said 0%, and immediately died. left it on the charger for a few hours and the light was still amber, turned it back on and again 0% and phone immediately died and did a soft reset on its own. i turned the phone off and left it on the ac charger, took out the sim card and put it in an old blackberry to use while the battery was charging.
its been on the ac wall charger for the last several hours, i checked and the phone is totally dead, cannot turn it on, and the LED at the top is now RED.
what is the problem here? why wont this thing charge?
thanks in advance, i have alot of critical info on this device and any help would be greatly appreciated.
i cannot hard reset because i cannot turn the flippign thing on....
Does it charge when you connect it to your computer? If it does, then your charger is toast. If not, then it's probably the phone itself.
I'd try a different charger first. If that makes no difference then a different battery. If that still does not make any difference then time to exchange it.
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Does it charge when you connect it to your computer? If it does, then your charger is toast. If not, then it's probably the phone itself.
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connected to either the computer or the wall charger, the LED thats normally amber when charging, and green when charged, remains red.
I had something very similar happen to my wizard.
And as weird as it sounds, the only fix was to charge the battery in a friends wizard on his charger. I'd check the battery if possible.
Could be the battery. Know any place or anyone that will let you try a charged battery? If not, you might have to go in to an AT&T store.
i think i got it working. did some reading/browsing...
took a usb wire and cut the mini usb head off. dissected it and found the the red and black charging wires. took out the battery and held the leads to teh battery while the other end was plugged into a USB/AC adapter wall charger from a old blackberry. after manually charging the battery for several minutes, i put the battery back in the phone and the phone started up. now it seems to be charging off the wall charger and the led is now amber from red.
thanks for all your help/suggestions.
well it worked briefly. the amber light has gone back to red and it seems that the battery is not charging.
dont know what happened to my perfectly functioning phone.
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well it worked briefly. the amber light has gone back to red and it seems that the battery is not charging.
dont know what happened to my perfectly functioning phone.
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Repeat this proceedure but this time do not turn the phone on, just plug it in to the wall charger once you have zapped the battery again.
Turning your phone on probably just caused the already recovering battery to die whiles it is trying to take on a charge.
It is mentioned quite a lot on the boards that Li-Ion Batteries do not like being over disscharged and there is usually a little protection circuit in the battery to provent complete disscharging although this circuit may be on board the phone. Completely disscharging a Li-Ion cell will kill it stone dead and it will need replacing.
When you took the battery out and so called jump started it with your flying leads, this possibly reset the little protection circuit in the battery so it can now take on a charge. I feel that once you turned on the phone, this was to much for the already depleted cell to take and possibly re-tripped its inbuilt circuit.
If you do manage to recover you cell, in future it is good practice not to let the battery go below about 25%. Li-ion cells are generally happy being top off regularly.
I hope this helps buddy
Do let us know!
Cheers
C.
thanks, that was very helpful.
ive tried defibrillating this battery out of the dead several more times to no avail.
ill try it one more time when i get home from work, if its a no go i will go to teh att core store. the phone is 6 weeks old, dont know what they can do for me if the battery is toast...
That Sucks! I hope they'll give you a new battery.
tiltyoself said:
thanks, that was very helpful.
ive tried defibrillating this battery out of the dead several more times to no avail.
ill try it one more time when i get home from work, if its a no go i will go to teh att core store. the phone is 6 weeks old, dont know what they can do for me if the battery is toast...
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I had exactly the same problem with my battery. It came on though after a day. Although the battery life after this happened went down to 10hrs max on standby. I sent the phone back and got a new one and now all is fine.
This is a problem that affects almost all makes of phone. There are three (main) causes of the problem:
1.
The battery charge drops too low to allow the charging circuit to recognise a battery is even in place (red no charge light stays lit)
possible solution:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...22&postcount=6
(in the end very similar in the end to the USB wire used in post above)
2.
A faulty battery (but if you can charge it using a cut usb cable or using a couple of AA batteries this may not be a faulty battery.
3.
A faulty charger OR a charger not delivering 5v at 1000mA as the OEM one does. Many chargers that are used for other phones or generic chargers only deliver 500mA. This is not enough when your battery drops very low. (these chargers are OK for occasional use but I do not advise using them regularly particularly if the no-charge syndrome has shown itself)
4.
A faulty USB connection on the phone. I have now seen a couple of reports where the fine wire connections in the phones USB port have become bent out of place.
Number 4 above is at least possible for the OP as it seems the battery will charge using a cut USB cable but not when either the PC USB cable or mains charger is connected. A USB port on the phone with a a bent internal contact would explain what's happening.
A previous poster was able with a needle or similar to bend the contact back into place.
Mike
i had the same problem with my phone.
put it in the charger overnight and woke up in the morning and couldnt turn on the phone with blinking red light. I don't know if my battery was over-drained though. I went to AT&T and was playing around with their charger and new battery and somehow the so-called dead battery started working again. They changed the SIM card on my phone there and then i haven't been able to use the phone since. I've changed the network to GSM instead of Auto setting under Phone Options which allows us to make calls; but now I can't connect to 3G network.
Charging thru mini usb
My phone started to exhibit similar problems...plugged in but no charging of the battery. I finally realized that my mini usb connection on the phone has been compromised (bent, distorted=not functioning properly) Now I have to prop the mini usb connection up at a slight angle to engage the charge. I think the plastic/metallic connector on the phone is somewhat fragile ...I had similar issues with my hermes.
called customer support.
they are sending me a new phone and battery.
how do i know its not a refurbished one? any clues?
before u send out your defect phone, have u check if your phone's mini-USB connector has bent or misaligned pins?
yeah all the connectors visually are fine.
My battery died last night and i charged the phone up and now the phone will not turn on anymore. Anyone have any ideas cause i'm completely out of them???
have you tried takin git out an putting in the phone again?
Yup. I dunno what is going on. I was using sony's cable to charge the thing and the power button was lit up red and now i switched to a different cable and the power button doesn't turn red anymore but the indicator lights are flashing like it doesn't have enough power to start. It may just be dead and sony's cable just stopped working and never charged the thing
Nope that isn't it... it just won't power on for some reason. i hope someone has an idea as to what is going on because i don't
I had a similar problem and had to leave it plugged in for at least 10 mins before the LEDs indicated it was charging.
THANK THE LORD THANK THE LORD. I was right. The crap cable sony uses just didn't charge the phone at all. Now that i switched i was able to turn the phone on again.
Try hard reseting the device while it is powered, might do something if its a software issue.
battery stone dead~won't recharge
I have the same problem. I don't believe ti has anything to do with the cable. The first time it suddenly came to life after a day or two fo being dead, but this time so far it is still in a coma. It did briefly awaken when connected to the pc, but it kept blacking out, and now it's completely gone again.
Could it be that it is not set to power off until the battery is completely stone dead, and therefore it won't recharge?
I think you are absolutely right. I don't believe it allows you to charge it until it is turned on. So try and plug it for like 15mins and try and power it on. Let us know if it works
This sounds like what I have seen on more than one device. If you let the battery go completely dead it will not take a charge from a USB cable to a PC or hub, even if it was a powered hub. We had some old HTCs that would only take a charge from a transformer when the battery had been fully depleted. It was like the USB to PC or hub did not give it enough amps or watts to turn it on and start charging.
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This sounds like what I have seen on more than one device. If you let the battery go completely dead it will not take a charge from a USB cable to a PC or hub, even if it was a powered hub. We had some old HTCs that would only take a charge from a transformer when the battery had been fully depleted. It was like the USB to PC or hub did not give it enough amps or watts to turn it on and start charging.
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Came accross this also in the Kaiser forums - think it has something to do with the battery being absolutely drained, so much that there isn't enough power to switch the current to the battery again.
Never happened to me, so never quite figured it out. But the Kaiser forum had a lot of discussion (and solutions I think) on this. (Xperia has HTC involvement..or so it's rumoured).
Tanquen said:
This sounds like what I have seen on more than one device. If you let the battery go completely dead it will not take a charge from a USB cable to a PC or hub, even if it was a powered hub. We had some old HTCs that would only take a charge from a transformer when the battery had been fully depleted. It was like the USB to PC or hub did not give it enough amps or watts to turn it on and start charging.
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yep... I have had that happened to my blackjack 2 a couple times too. everytime I had to connect it to the charger for like 10 15mins before it can turn on again... plugging it to the pc/hub never work.... also happened once to my iphone as well
Hey I just ran into this problem today.
Turns out it was activesync messing with the phone
Ended the mobile device center process in task manager and phone went back to normal.
EDIT: Ok maybe its not back to normal. But it was definitely caused by activesync...
EDIT2: Back to normal now... Had to plug in the wall charger. After a minute the charging lights flashed and i was able to turn it on.
Checking battery status, and its in the red.. I guess the activesync was just a coincidence.
But wow, I left the thing plugged into my computer overnight to charge, and apparently it drained more than it charged?
There is defiantly something extra going on with the Xperia. While other devices I’ve seen fully drained refuse to start charging again from a USB to PC cable and even some power outlet charges. My Xperia is also doing as Nipperos. With an almost full charge I plugged it into the USB to PC cable and the icon went to the little plug and when I clicked on it the status said that it is was charging but when I got ready to leave for the day it had drained down one red bar. It was also very warm. With this, the $800 price tag and the random crashing made worse by the incredibly poor location of the reset button and made even worse by the incredibly poor design of the battery cover. Really, what is the proper way to get the thing off without breaking it? I’m fighting the urge to return it.
Any word on a new firmware?
Nippero said:
Hey I just ran into this problem today.
Turns out it was activesync messing with the phone
Ended the mobile device center process in task manager and phone went back to normal.
EDIT: Ok maybe its not back to normal. But it was definitely caused by activesync...
EDIT2: Back to normal now... Had to plug in the wall charger. After a minute the charging lights flashed and i was able to turn it on.
Checking battery status, and its in the red.. I guess the activesync was just a coincidence.
But wow, I left the thing plugged into my computer overnight to charge, and apparently it drained more than it charged?
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I've noticed this too... My phone will be on full charge, i connect it to my PC to install a software, then i check one bar's gone... it drains more than it charges...
my x1 did this today. my buddy has a verizon htc phone and let me use hus htc wall charger and it did the trick...
my x1 is a x1i so i dont know if the US. plugs or what dont agree with the phone. but out of 6 cables and chargers only 2 will charge the phone from a dead battery the other 4 would only charge after it was on.
so my best solution for you all is to find yourself a htc wall charger and let it charger for 20 mins before trying to turn it on.
and of course theres htc involvment on the x1. look in the windows folder. all drivers are HTCxxx.dll the comm manager is htc. theres a forum here the htc developers site. this isnt a site for samsungs and other makers. this is a site for htc devices. if it wasnt a htc device it wouldnt be here.
My experience
I had a similar experience while on a trip to Korea. I didn't foresee that a 200mA difference in the current output of a wall socket charger will cause me so much pain.
I had always been able to charge the X1 with my Jabra headset's wall socket charger, hence I brought it on my trip. Not being mindful of the ratings, it can only supply 500mA, which is different from the X1's charger, 700mA. I was using it happily on a bus, happily keeping it alive with a solar USB charger (till it ran out of juice too). A while later, playing with the GPS I noticed my battery power dropped to 20% (2 bar) so I pressed the power button to conserve energy.
Unknowingly, the battery kept draining and the next time I wanted to turn it on I couldn't. The top 2 LEDs gave me 3 red blinks. I thought, "ok, so I just go back to the hotel to charge it with my Jabra charger."
When I tried that, I noticed that the power button gave a constant red LED and the battery did not charge. Taking out the battery and putting it back, I noticed the power LED went off (which indicates it was going to charge) but came back out again. It never charged.
Back home, after using the supplied SE charger, the power LED went off and never came back. I tried to turn on the X1 after 15mins and it powered up, showing the usual charging LED cycles.
Lesson Learnt. Always use original accessories.
Same problem here....
I knew about problem charging totally dead battery with wall plug-in (from previous HTC). Totally dead battery was not possible to charge via USB (from PC). But I have bought xperia via ebay and didn't know the wall charger is not original SE charger... Hope to work with previous HTC charger
Tx for coming to the idea
Just happened to me :S
I had used it all day and Wifi was turned on so obviously battery was almost dead. To save battery I turned off the Xperia.
When I tried to turn it on again it wouldnt and so I connected it to the pc.
That didnt work out so I connected it to the standard charger but that also didnt work. Right now my Xperia X1 is lying unplugged on the table because someone said you should leave it unplugged for a couple of minutes.
Hopefully it will work, I only have had it for 3 days :´(
Also hope this doesnt happen everytime your battery is drained because that would be annoying as hell.
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Ok so what I did was I removed the battery and plugged it back in. This worked and I managed to turn it on and right now its charging.
Though when I try to go to sleep mode it turns the display on again after about 3 seconds and does what I am guessing is a low battery beep (Sorry windowsmobile noob here) but then stops instantly, which is pretty stange.
ok anyone know a way to increase the power wattage from your pc to the usb device? (sounds dangerous i know), but there must be someone who has had a similar prob and was able to fix with a bit of tweaking....ill google and come back with any results
okay...i had similar problem today morning..it wudnt start.
so i left it charging for ten minutes...and now it has turned on finally.
i think the battery goes completely dead.
Within the last few days I've notice that my phone is charging at unbelievable slow rate via the wall charge that was supplied. I usually get a full charge in maybe 1-2 hr depending on what percentage the battery is at. Once it is fully charge it hold the charge, but when it drains then it would take like 6 hrs to do a full charge. I've tried to soft reset it to see if the percentage goes up, but it stay the same. I turn off the phone to let it charge, but it still charge at a slow rate. I'm wondering is it time to purchase a new battery.
What do you think? And is there any other test I can do?
The slow charge could be one of a few things... One could be the battery as you suspect (and probally most likely).. Also, are you chargign the phone in a diffrent place? If the battery gets too warm from lack of circulation, it will not charge (or just charge much mroe slowly).. It also could be that your USB port is starting to go... IF you have a stand alogn abattery charger available for it (like one on a docking station) try to charge it on there and see if it still charges as slowly.. Another though could be if you are charging it in your car while using GPS or Wifi.. IF those are left on, they suck down the battery a lot faster and thus it uses the electricity as fast as it can pull it in.. I woudl suggest powering the phone down while charging.. that could also help...
i always charge it in the same spot since i got the phone. i dont have a dock charger. its weird last night i was at 49 and i turn off the phone completely and plug it in. woke up today the orange light indicating that it was charging still was on. turn on the phone and it was at 55 percent. WTF!!!!!!!!!!
I guess that touch pro 2 better come out soon.
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i always charge it in the same spot since i got the phone. i dont have a dock charger. its weird last night i was at 49 and i turn off the phone completely and plug it in. woke up today the orange light indicating that it was charging still was on. turn on the phone and it was at 55 percent. WTF!!!!!!!!!!
I guess that touch pro 2 better come out soon.
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i have the same problem. Its either your USB port or the charger, so simply go buy a new charger and if it still does it the port is bad....if not, problem solved
or put it in your computer to charge, that avoids buying a new charger.
usb charging is always slower then wallplug charging as usb can only provide
5v * 0.5Amps == 2.5Watt
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wall charger can provide as much watt
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For some reason after a couple days of using the iphone wall plug to charge my phone, my phone will no longer charge any more.
When charging with the iphone wall plug it would take forever to charge and im wondering if this may have damaged the battery.
a couple of nights ago when i had my phone on the iphone charger over night I woke up to my phone still being on 20%, the same as when i plugged it in.
since then the battery has been acting very weird and i can't even get it to charge over 20%
right now the orange light does not even blink when i plug in my phone and i have not been able to turn it on since yesterday morning
i have the phone under warranty but i have viper rom running on my phone\\\\How can I get my phone back under warranty if it wont turn on?
Dont have a PC, just my macbook
milesjohnson said:
For some reason after a couple days of using the iphone wall plug to charge my phone, my phone will no longer charge any more.
When charging with the iphone wall plug it would take forever to charge and im wondering if this may have damaged the battery.
a couple of nights ago when i had my phone on the iphone charger over night I woke up to my phone still being on 20%, the same as when i plugged it in.
since then the battery has been acting very weird and i can't even get it to charge over 20%
right now the orange light does not even blink when i plug in my phone and i have not been able to turn it on since yesterday morning
i have the phone under warranty but i have viper rom running on my phone\\\\How can I get my phone back under warranty if it wont turn on?
Dont have a PC, just my macbook
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I don't get it correctly.. did you also try some different connection cables? And with iPhone charger what do you exactly mean... can you send a photo?
If you send it in they'll most likely throw it away and give you a new phone if they are not able to turn it on. Replacing the battery costs way too much for them. But this information describes just a probability.. and that's useless..
He used the wall plug that came with his iPhone. Its also rated at 5V 1000mA output.
It should work just fine.
What i would reccomend is using a different data cable and wall plug. If you dont have one try to borrow one or go into a store.
Its possible that the data cable and / or the wall plug your using is bad.
Those are easy to rule out. If you do get different cable and wall plug and still have a problem then you have ruled out those and its your phone.
Till you do this it is a phone, cable, or wall plug issue.