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Is it just me, or does "google maps" and WLS maps blow tomtom and iguidance out of the water.. imo, google maps has the best feel of all four apps and the satallite view is good.. Iguidance is even better with the street names overlaid onto the satallite view...
Tomtom is the worst of the four, with a clunky interface and iguidance's interface is not as quick as google or WLS.
am i worng?
my problem with google is that it doesnt follow you, and doesnt talk. havent tried m$s stuff
kireol said:
my problem with google is that it doesnt follow you, and doesnt talk. havent tried m$s stuff
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It follows me....
do you mean "follow you" as in the map scrolling automatically as you travel? if so, it does do that...
you might have a different version than me or a lot of other people have then. Ours doesnt follow us. it shows a blue blinking dot where you are at that dot moves, but the map doesnt, so soon your location is off the map. Also, if you are in an area with no cell, your maps wont work. IG/TT/etc will continue to work with no problems.
I have google maps, microsoft live search, and Tomtom 6 installed on my 8925 and although I love the features of live and google, I think tomtom is the preferred option to navigate to a specific location, because it navigates with voice and on screen info for the next turn. Google and Live will show you where you are and give you a route to follow, but without voice prompts both are a little dangerous to use while driving.
Here's a quick breakdown for you.
Google - has sat pics. is free. is from google! POIs are searchable via googles site. Problems. No voice. No T2S. Limited to 2d view
MS - same
TT - No T2S. Less accurate maps. More accurate pathing. Smoother FPS. Clunky or best interface depending on who you talk to. Sat maps and T2S rumored to be coming in the next billion years. has 2d and 3d.
IG - Has voice. has T2S. Has what in the U.S. is considered the most accurate mapping. Has commonly used features set to minimum buttons. Has the most 2d and 3d views. decent interface. slightly outdated graphics. Known comm problem with kaiser.
Which navigation software does travel with you when you want directions? I have google maps and it does not travel with you during directions.
I'm using Telenav and it seems to work well. It has not been fully integrated with PPC Outlook yet. Can't navigate to ppc contacts saved address. You must renter your contacts address in Telenav to navigate. You can however import your desktop Outlook contacts to an online service on their website. My favorite feature of Telenav is the ability to call a toll free number, speak your destination and after hanging up your destination is imported into Telenav and it automatically begins to speak you directions and check traffic.
I think Telenav is good but $10 a month or $100 a year is ridiculous. I am using the 30 day trial until my Garmin XT micro sd card comes.
I using iGO Plus
i use i guidance as well, it's very accurate and easy to use...what is the known comm problem with the kaiser, i have an ATT Tilt and i haven't ran into any issues...i hate that google or live has to connected to the internet all the time...
and i haven't tried tomtom but the fact that it doesn't come with US maps (at least the free version posted around these forums) and it doesn't do T2S made not even bother trying it...
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i use i guidance as well, it's very accurate and easy to use...what is the known comm problem with the kaiser, i have an ATT Tilt and i haven't ran into any issues...i hate that google or live has to connected to the internet all the time...
and i haven't tried tomtom but the fact that it doesn't come with US maps (at least the free version posted around these forums) and it doesn't do T2S made not even bother trying it...
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I have the tilt as well. Most people with the tilt or tytnii are having IG wait 1-5 minutes before it loads up if you dont shut down comm mgr first. IG says that they probably wont fix this.
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do you mean "follow you" as in the map scrolling automatically as you travel? if so, it does do that...
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I bet it does
It scrolls automatically as I move.
TomTom for the win!
mapking 3D 2007 for me.
kms
How to start?
Hi guys,
I am a newbie and havent been able to get the GPS function to work yet.
I got the handset from Orange, flashed it with the HTC ROM found on this forum, downloaded googlemap and ran the QuickGPS. Googlemap hasnt been able to detect where I am yet.
Any advice would be great.
I use iGO myway. It's by far the best i've used. and I've used them all. LONG LIVE PPCW
Wayfinder
I'm using Wayfinder 6 on my TyTN II. I use Wayfinder since 4 years now. Easy to use, fast enough and powerful!
Try this.....
phuocdh said:
Hi guys,
I am a newbie and havent been able to get the GPS function to work yet.
I got the handset from Orange, flashed it with the HTC ROM found on this forum, downloaded googlemap and ran the QuickGPS. Googlemap hasnt been able to detect where I am yet.
Any advice would be great.
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I would suggest hard resetting you Tytn. You might have fooled with the external gps settings and I think it's been noted here that if you even look at the settings the internal gps gets hosed. I was having the same problem until I did a hard reset. I'm all good now.
what is yours? i was using destinator when i was in greece as tom tom didnt have the greek map.
what about google navigator? or should i stick with google maps ?
thanks in advance
what i didnt like about destinator...it was slow on picking up the gps signal, and i was running gps test first to get the signal, then destinator
VisualGPSce, TomTom, Google Maps
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VisualGPSce, TomTom, Google Maps
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ah yes visualgpsce, no maps, but great program for various info
I'd have to say TOMTOM all the way. I prefer it...
GPS Test, TomTom
GPSTuner for geocaching (now with realtime map download).
Tomtom for road.
and what about iGo my way
Just IMO
iGo looks nice but TomTom is better to operate
tomtom 6 & iGO (for eastern europe)
Tomtom by far in my opinion, however I do have a new favorite GPS program, not for navigation though.
It's called navizon, if you haven't heard of it check it out at navizon.com
it's similar to google maps, but the real use of this program in my opinion is that they pay for location information collected about wifi ap's and cell toweres.
What I do it start it up, then start up tomtom, so navizon runs in the background, in a week I made $40.
They also have a pretty good referral program, so if you do like it, I would appreciate it if you would use my number when signing up.
The program if free to use for this purpose by the way, so there is no catch
Sorry for sounding spammy, but I really do think this program is cool and I really did make $40 in a week.
Here's my referral number if you are so inclined: 5D56565E5A56
or a direct link to the sign up page:
http://my.navizon.com/Webapps/UserAdmin/register.aspx?referral_code=5D56565E5A56
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iGo looks nice but TomTom is better to operate
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but tomtom has weak maps for Slovakia
tomtom for turn-by-turn directions, windows live search for proximity searches, I need to try the geocaching app gpstuner.
Mapkings
I m using MAPKINGS
And i think its quite good for Malaysian user.
iGuidance 4.0
I prefer iGuidance 4.0 over TomTom. I find that the user interface is easier to use.
i like TrackMe for tracking, TomTom is best in usability but Garmin is also nice, but expensive
So many apps out there...
TrackMe for well tracking. What an excellent program!
Noni GPS Plot for when I just want to be a geek and look at satelite reception / have a GPS Speedo in the car.
MemoryMap, for its ability to read OS Maps (thats similar to Topo maps for the US members). Great for off-roading.
Google / Pocket Streets when I'm in an unknown area. Especially Google, gotta love that integration!
I did use TomTom years ago when it was v.2. It was good for Sat-Nav, then I got a real Garmin Sat-Nav and found TomTom was relegated to the cupboard. I have no need to change it since it meets my needs (don't think the Kaiser would like being used on a Motorcycle, least not in the open where I could see the screen...)
navizon group - ATT Tilt
navizon is cool. just made a public group so we can see each other (ATT Tilt)
Are you guys that are using TomTom using the $149 software available on their corporate website?
Garmin XT - Honestly, it dominates over TomTom.
Nudar
Nudar is by far better than TomTom or Garmin XT. You guys should all check it out:
http://nudar.nudar.com/
hey wats the best gps program to use for the AT&T TILT besides telenav & does anyone know what at&t navigator is & besides that program also lol.
TeleNav and AT&T Navigator appear to be the same program, just that the AT&T one has their splash page. Both are pretty much useless out of cell tower range as the software is server based. They do allow you to speak the address into them rather than looking at the screen and typing in the info which is neat.
TomTom and Garmin XT are the most popular two that can reside on your phone's microSD card and won't need to call out unless you want info like gas prices, etc. TomTom who used Europe's TelAtlas tends to be a bit more accurate in Europe. Garmin's XT uses NavTeq which was once a U.S. company so their maps are a bit more accurate than TeleAtlas if you are in the U.S.
Mack
Don't forget
MSN Live Search
Yahoo Go
Google Maps
Because they are
-free
-take up very little space on your device because the maps are downloaded as needed
-all have not only road maps, but aerial photo overlays
-free
Lots of threads already exist on this topic.
Google and MS dominate the free apps.
telenav works for me with unlimted routes,gps programs depend on what you need and willing to pay for,not everyone can squirt out a hefty amount for an external car gps device or software and/or maps and spend time learning to configure it to your preference without bugs.
I hate to be the new guy who asks the question that is repeated all over the forum, but I did a search and was unable to find a good answer to my question. I am mainly concerned with which has the best features that doesn't use any kind of data connection. Also which software can i buy and put on my 8gb micro sd? i know some come on 2gb cards and I would rather use my own card. Also is there any kind of chat for the forum? I feel terrible asking stupid questions on the forum.
There is no "the best" in the real world.
None of below GPS navigator application use data connection, unless you want some extra features like weather, traffic etc...
1. tomtom 6.
2. Garmin XT, however, it locked to pre-installed included microsd. If you want to copy it to your card then you have to know some ways to generate the new key.
3. Destinator 6. Version 7 comes with text to speech, but it is not available for America.
4. CoPilot Live 7 comes with microSD, but I don't if it is locked or not.
5. iGuidance V4. Text to speech is included. The only one comes with 14 days trial, but the trial version doesn't work on PPC.
I'm running 1. and 2.
thanks for the reply. what i meant by the data connect comment was all the bells and whistles suck as real time traffic and all, but out of tom tom and garmin which do you use or like the most?
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...but out of tom tom and garmin which do you use or like the most?
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Well, it's hard to answer b/c I don't have hands-on experience on the others.
In America and countries which tomtom maps are available, tomtom is my choice. I run Garmin because it makes maps that tomtom doesn't.
I think I may try iGuidance v4 if tomtom won't launch a newer version for PDA. However, iGuidance v4 still has its problem, for example, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368373.
I've been using Route 66 on my Kaiser -- with full US maps, it takes just a bit more than 4GB, so it'll fit on a 6 or 8GB microSDHC. Its maps are pretty good, but probably getting to be a bit dated; when I bought it 2+ years ago, its maps were brand new, but they haven't been updated AFAIK.
Yeah, i travel to US often i see my friend using Telenav on his tilt. It sucks.
If you drive fast, you dont see the map getting updated, even with HSDPA on. [Ofcourse there is a disclaimer, do not use while driving].
In my opinion, TomTom is good. I have for both Europe and US.
For US, it takes a bit more than 1GB. Its quite good and user friendly as well!!
If I had a nickel for every time there was a thread like this I would be drinking a nice cold coke.
Golf software?
While we're on the topic of NA GPS sw, I haven't founf many suggestions for golf sw that's got plenty of US courses. Any suggestions?
I'm using TomTom 6, but I recently became concerned with the age of the maps. In Philadelphia, it cannot find Veteran's Stadium (demolished in 2004), which would indicate that that maps are from at least 2005. But at the same time, it can't find Lincoln Financial Field [Philadelphia Eagles] or Citizen's Bank Park [Philadelphia Phillies], both of which opened in 2004.
I paid for $70 for the latest maps through TomTom Home, but who knows, maybe they just didn't copy to the device right...
I dont think its necessarily TomTom's fault for the maps, except that they charged you for them. I use google maps and there are many things that aren't on the maps that have been there for at least 2 years. It seems that maps in general from all sources need updated.... Its why i like nautical charts... updated weekly... too bad i cant find a good cheap/ free nautical navigation program.
Nghiem said:
There is no "the best" in the real world.
None of below GPS navigator application use data connection, unless you want some extra features like weather, traffic etc...
1. tomtom 6.
2. Garmin XT, however, it locked to pre-installed included microsd. If you want to copy it to your card then you have to know some ways to generate the new key.
3. Destinator 6. Version 7 comes with text to speech, but it is not available for America.
4. CoPilot Live 7 comes with microSD, but I don't if it is locked or not.
5. iGuidance V4. Text to speech is included. The only one comes with 14 days trial, but the trial version doesn't work on PPC.
I'm running 1. and 2.
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Just a note to everyone looking for GPS software for the Kaiser. I know many of you don't like the menacing machine of google, but google maps combined with the built in GPS works great. It also gives you the ability to look at a map, satalite overview as well as traffic.
Google Maps is really good not disputing that, but they need to update the maps and imagery... There are places that are no longer around in my town that are listed on the maps. And some of these places have been gone for years.
irishmdc said:
Just a note to everyone looking for GPS software for the Kaiser. I know many of you don't like the menacing machine of google, but google maps combined with the built in GPS works great. It also gives you the ability to look at a map, satalite overview as well as traffic.
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I use googe maps combined with the built-in gps as well. It's extremely user friendly. It's almost dummy proof, lol, and has a nice gui too. Like in a previous post, it seems that many, if not all, gps programs have outdated maps ranging from 1 to 3 years, possibly more. I read somewhere that Google Maps' imagery (and Google Earth' s imagery) are 2 to 3 years ago due to National Security. I wouldnt be surprised if Tom Tom, Igo, Garmin, and other GPS programs used outdated maps as well.
If there were a system to supply updated maps for comm GPS programs like there is for nautical systems, that would be fricking sweet. Or a program that lets you use/ view nautical charts. I'm a mariner by trade so I love using GPS tools.
i have tried this http://gpsvp.garminmapsearch.com/ it works great
Apologies if this has been asked elsewhere, my internet is not great currently. Can you load tomtom on the HD7? I have read somewhere that it comes with tomtom maps and you pay a premium for turn by turn navigation.
Any ideas?
Thats for the Desire HD, Not HD7, since the TomTom for HTC is using the HTCSense Android navigation app
So there currently isn't a turn by turn navigation app for wp7? Bugger.
There seems to be one: Navigon select
(it's delivered with the HTC Mozart (T-Mobile Germany) on November 3.)
http://translate.google.de/translat...1828,25199-_,00.html&sl=de&tl=en&hl=&ie=UTF-8
No current GPS works so it's encouraging to see that Germany will have something in November, meaning the companies ARE working on it. Won't be long now.
Well I read at Pocket Now that turn by turn navigation may appear in the January update...
http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/windows-phone-7-update-in-january-may-bring-turn-by-turn-gps
Of course, at the moment this is just a rumour, but it would seem foolish for Microsoft to ignore an opportunity like that considering Google are pushing it for free on Android...
adrian-polglase said:
Well I read at Pocket Now that turn by turn navigation may appear in the January update...
http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/windows-phone-7-update-in-january-may-bring-turn-by-turn-gps
Of course, at the moment this is just a rumour, but it would seem foolish for Microsoft to ignore an opportunity like that considering Google are pushing it for free on Android...
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That probably true as most other smart phone OS have this feature and so they will probably add it soon to catch up with other OS like Android.
Bing Maps for WM6.5 supports turn-by-turn navigation. The questions is not IF rather WHEN Microsoft gonna add it for WP7 as well.
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Bing Maps for WM6.5 supports turn-by-turn navigation. The questions is not IF rather WHEN Microsoft gonna add it for WP7 as well.
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Neither Google or Bing Maps support turn by turn in the UK on WM6.5 so I'm not holding my breath for the WP7 version. Would be good if it did.
Copilot is also being very tight lipped about WP7
Well, I am not sure about Bing, however Google Maps Navigation (on Android) works perfectly in UK and it is quite good. Actually I've never tried Bing, since for WM there are plenty of really good third-party offline navigation software. I do not think we will see the same quality for WP7 soon.
martoto said:
Well, I am not sure about Bing, however Google Maps Navigation (on Android) works perfectly in UK and it is quite good. Actually I've never tried Bing, since for WM there are plenty of really good third-party offline navigation software. I do not think we will see the same quality for WP7 soon.
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Neither worked on WM 6.5 using the Energy ROMs, but it is good to hear that they made it to the Android version in the UK so there is hope if Google release Google Maps for WP7.
I emailed co-pilot asking them about their product on Windows Mobile 7, this was their reply:
Thank you for contacting CoPilot Technical Support.
Unfortunately we have not tested the latest Windows Phone 7 as yet, We are planning to test it in the near future, but unable to tell you exactly when it will be released.
If you have any further questions, or feel that this incident has not been resolved to your satisfaction, please do not hesitate to bring this to our attention.
Regards,
CoPilot Technical Support
lol. The CoPilot answer really cheered me up. How pathetic
GPS should be free, MS needs to step up. Android, nokia etc offers free voice navigation. This is the only one I hate about my phone.
give it some time, bing worked well for wm 6.x, let's give them an update or two to get Bing for wp7 to have a chance to get updated.
I was riding home today and thought of a few reasons I could see why it wouldn't work as launched, I didn't write any down because I was driving, but many had to do with power management, and the way the interface is currently setup, minor things that may have taken extra time to get tweaked so they just work, rather than feeling hacked-together
I'm just slightly worried that if Microsoft do bring Bing GPS Navigation, whether it will be restricted only to the US again as in the UK, we were unable to use the Bing GPS Turn by Turn Navigation on Windows Mobile 6.x!
Because if that's the case, us Brits will still be left with NOTHING and no alternative!!
The Navigon product proves it is possible, I guess other firms may wait to see how much take up there is of WP7 before they commit development resources, or maybe they have something in the pipe now, or maybe Microsoft will release a Bing Maps turn by turn product
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GPS should be free, MS needs to step up. Android, nokia etc offers free voice navigation. This is the only one I hate about my phone.
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I agree. Not ALL parts of the world have superb internet access specially when you're off the city. I mean GPS and internet shouldn't be packaged.
Even if Bing maps and google maps ARE for free. With slow data connection and you're on the road, you will 100% miss your turn before your map appears on the phone. That's just silly.
I miss my GMXT on 6.1
Surely you guys are just using the Satnav solution you used before you purchased your WP7 phone? I still use Tomtom on my HD2 in the car, and bing maps on the HD7 on foot.
It's not that hard, and will do until Satnav eventually makes it onto WP7.
If the lack of satnav is a dealbreaker for you, you shouldn't really have bought an HD7.