Hi amigos:
I been searching around and I cant find a solution for this annoying thing .
If I connect to my 3G usign my kaiser for more than 10 minutes, the phone is getting extremly warm. I try to put the back light low but doesnt help. I'm usign Dutty 29 apr. Rom and radio version is 1.58.21.23 and I'm in Denmark.
Is your battery draining fast?
Get a battery meter and test that because I had a TyTN that did that...
same here original rom wm6.1 NL
Noel M said:
Hi amigos:
I been searching around and I cant find a solution for this annoying thing .
If I connect to my 3G usign my kaiser for more than 10 minutes, the phone is getting extremly warm. I try to put the back light low but doesnt help. I'm usign Dutty 29 apr. Rom and radio version is 1.58.21.23 and I'm in Denmark.
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If I where you I would try a diffrent radio and check what aps you are running in background/prosseses. I often use my kaiser as an wifi router and I dont think you gets close to as warm as mine streaming and charging at the same time I abuse it so hard it resets itself, now thats hot hehe. Anyway, some radio are battery monsters for me, its just about to find the best one for youreself.
I have good experience with: 1.58.25.17 in Norway, havent tried it whit duttys.
If not you can try 1.65.14.06 and 1.65.17.10 wich dutty included whit the release.
To 2007HHR: Yes the baterry draining fast that is the worst part. what is the purpose for use a battery meter? Its going to solve my battery problem?
Raiisak I will try another radio, hope it will help me, I never experience a phone that will become warm after using it for a long time. Really annoying
Noel M said:
To 2007HHR: Yes the baterry draining fast that is the worst part. what is the purpose for use a battery meter? Its going to solve my battery problem?
Raiisak I will try another radio, hope it will help me, I never experience a phone that will become warm after using it for a long time. Really annoying
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i only experienced this one time when i had my gps turned on for half an hour and my phone turned into a hot potato and battery went from 95 to 15 percent.
u have to realize though that the tilt is sorta like a mini laptop and it will start getting warm after some time unless u give it some rest.
Well I never experience something like it in a windows mobile before, I will be really interesting to know if this is a hardware failure. Have you guys experience something like this in other htc phones?
Noel M said:
Well I never experience something like it in a windows mobile before, I will be really interesting to know if this is a hardware failure. Have you guys experience something like this in other htc phones?
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Unfortunately this is almost unavoidable with lithium batteries. My HTC TyTN II battery gets hot while charging, and even hotter if phone is being used (voice or data). It gets hot to the point that the battery stops charging (at least they have thermal control circuits, it could explode otherwise, lithium batteries do not like the heat).
The same happened with my previous phone, from e-ten. A battery got very hot and damaged while talking for a long time. I have used my devices mostly as a PDA, for reading or playing music, but as soon as phone radio is on, it starts getting very hot.
Hi Vcespon:
THis is horrible, I can't belive with a advance phone like kaiser something like this happen. Is there any firmware that might fix this, otherwise I will thinking to change this phone, this is unacceptable.
vcespon said:
It gets hot to the point that the battery stops charging.
The same happened with my previous phone, from e-ten. A battery got very hot and damaged while talking for a long time. I have used my devices mostly as a PDA, for reading or playing music, but as soon as phone radio is on, it starts getting very hot.
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That's not normal. If it is the case your most likely have a hardware problem. Same to the OP.
Mine also got warm and was emptying the battery in a couple of hours once the radio broke down.
Other than this, the only cases where the phone will get really hot is when using WMWifirouter to route the 3G connection to WLAN and downloading a lot. Both the 3G and WiFi radios being on and working hard, plus the processor doing the routing uses a tremendous amount of power. But the device wasn't meant to be used that way anyway.
The GPS also uses quite a bit of power so if you have that on on you might want to try turning it off.
When just talking on the phone the device should get a little warm but no more.
The battery meter would show how much of your battery is being drained when idle... mainly shut down all applications and see what the reading is and that would give you an idea if the device is defective.
I can tell ya, mine gets HOT. I sent the first one back because I thought it was defective. Also with a couple different roms it makes no difference. If your using 3G, BT, GPS, or any combination of those, that SOB will get hot. If I'm charging at the same time, it gets so hot it shuts the charging proccess down. I have to hold it over a AC vent to cool it back down.
Over all though, the only complaint I have with the phone is the heat and battery drain issue.
dead phone or dead battery
Do not know if this where to post. But my TyTn stopped charging. The phone is completly dead. Right now I'm on vacation in a remote location with out any access to the local AT&T to get a battery quick. But the problem is that the battery is not taking a charge. The red charge light is not on or anything. I left the phone on the charger for two days and nights with no results. I ordered a battery but will not have it untill I get home in another week. I have Dutty's 6.1 5.2.19199 UC Compliant ROM on the phone and I've been using it for about 10 days now. Everything was working fine. The phone was getting warm during GPS useage and when charging. Right now I hope that its just the battery. But in case its not, I need to know what my options are. Is the phone dead? What other measures are there to bring it back to life? Thanks in advance.
I can say from my experience with a tytn and now a tytnII when you use them rigorously , they will get hot. I guess the real question is how hot is it really getting and what is running on the phone. Is it uncomfortable to hold?
On EDGE data with FlexMail and IM+ online, the phone stays ice cold. On HSDPA the same, it gets slightly warm. When talking on the phone with HSDPA, it gets a bit warmer.
When using GPS+iGO8 or TomTom, it gets rather warm. Add charging and it gets pretty hot. I've seen batterystatus show as high as 42C using internal GPS+iGO8+Charging.
Gets hot + doesn't charge from laptop
I've got a similar problem - Kaiser may get hot when being used as a modem and/or charging...., well I've actually had this going on from time to time and wasn't much concerned about it until now: the battery doesn't charge when connected to my laptop - ActiveSync or modem, the amber light doesn't come on, plus drains fast.
The Kaiser(so the battery) is only 3 mths old (although I use it heavily as a modem) and I guess it's unlikely that changing the battery will help here...
My kaiser gets warm too.. I guess it's because I'm hot.
Never mind
HR fixed it...
You also have to remember that these things have a 400mhz processor in them without any fan. Now when your using that processor to the fullest, it IS going to get warm. This is what your going to get from any high performance electronic item without a cooling fan. It's not unacceptable, it's the way it is. 3G, bluetooth, and WiFi can be very processor intensive depending on use, imagine all 3 on at the same time, not to mention the added heat from rapid battery discharge (which is unavoidable when using the radio).
The designers of the phone are no idiots, they designed systems that shut the phone off if it's going to get damaged. So if your worried about the heat cause it's uncomfortable, don't work the sucker so hard! ;-)
Hi to all and thanks for the replies;
My theory is that if you buy an expensive phone you need to exploit until the limit. I bought the kaiser because is a phone that can give me almost any kind of connection and I can be connect online almost everywhere. I can't stand that If I use the 3G connection for 10 minutes the phones gets so warm. I use battery status too and the temperature is like 42F after I use the phone for 10 minutes.
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Yesterday using my in built sat nav my xperia went crazy 4-5 miles into my journey, with tom tt7 flashing on and of so I pulled over and took it from the screen mount, it was hot enough to fry an egg on , i did have my heating on as it was cold, also after closing tt7 the phone was randomly flicking through menus. I had to remove the battery allow it to cool for 10 min put battery back turn on and leave my heating off, thank god all was well and continued on my way trouble free for the rest of my journey. All has been well since it normaly does get hot during use of sat nav, wifi but this was very hot.
I have the same thing, it really does get incredibly hot, Maybe it is the GPS?
Hmz i've been using tomtom for about 3 hours and deviece was just a bit warm.
normaly does only get slightly warm, but yesterday it got really hot.
i wonder if it will explode..
u know.. since the battery is made from sony
I noticed this problem... it heated up a lot due to the car heating was on and the heat was hitting the X1... I have used the GPS in the past and never had problems... Its most likely the fact had the heating on... which made it HOTTER...
Generally warm and that it...
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I supose the heat of the car's heater was causing it to overheat (it's imaginable considering the metal battery cover, that as all metals do, easily heats up). I haven't had any temperature issues to this point and as far as I have checked (Batti allows to see battery temp), the temperature on mine hasn't come any higher then about 35C.
I have a different issue. With my one, It will be fully charged, and then it will start to over heat. After a couplr of hours, say about 5 hours (at work) i check the battery of the X1, and its only got 2 bars left and needs to be charged again! This is the second time it has happened to me. The battery wont even last 10 hours!
andyboo said:
I have a different issue. With my one, It will be fully charged, and then it will start to over heat. After a couplr of hours, say about 5 hours (at work) i check the battery of the X1, and its only got 2 bars left and needs to be charged again! This is the second time it has happened to me. The battery wont even last 10 hours!
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This is probably the problem of battery.
The times my X1 has got hot tends to be from a dodgy charger. It seems like the connector needs to be perfectly in.
My Xperia is getting really hot while using mobile data (GPRS/EDGE), found out that power draw with data connection on is about 500mA compared to usual 60-70mA. I think that battery just get hot thanks to this extreme power draw, but may be there is just some chip which heats up while sending data over 3G network.
hot vs crack
When I'm in the office the phone is permanently connected to my Notebook. It loads an stays in sync with my outlook...
Sometimes I thought that it feels a bit too warm. But usually I'm dropping it in my bag quite fast.
Last week I took it and It was really hot. It felt like the source of the heat was the Battery. The metal cover was nearly glowing.
The interesting thing is, that I also found what is called "THE CRACK" at the stylus holder.
I'm not sure if the crack was there before but if not...
I'm also having a Problem with a very short battery runtime. About 5-6 Hours on Standby. Batti also seems a bit confused. Shows violet loading color even if not loading from time to time. Iwas blaming the Touch-IT Manila shell I've installed, but I am not that sure any more. Going to test an write an Update...
Do the other heaters also have cracks in their cases?
Mine got quite warm today .. when I was running Skype and QIP, waiting for some people to send me IM. In 5 minutes it become very warm. Not really hot, but it was certain CPU is working 100%.
WIFI, BT, GPS was all off.
When I closed Skype and let QIP run, it seemed to go back to normal in few minutes. Next time I must check Task manager.
haha Im living in canada and its really cold here in Ontario so i dont think it would get that hot
I've observed for a few days that my x1 also heats up. but not to a point that it almost could boils an egg. if if you google "Lithium Polymer WIKI" the battery characteristics is that it heats up to a point that it can explode. that's a downside of the battery though it is better than li-ion in terms of life cycles, it is even said there that you can't leave a li-poly battery inside a car and it explodes while attempting to charge it in a zippo bag.
Mines usually at 40 deg C with wifi on
What week did your Xperias get produced?
I use my Xperia almost everyday for internetacces on my laptop. This means that it's constantly turned on, and intensively using the HSDPA connection for hours long.
When this happens, my phone heats up as well, sometimes more than on other moments.
Is it normal ?
29.8 °C at the moment, just take it out of my pocket.
After 5-6min bowering with opera 33.7 °C start to feels lilte warm.
Still 33.7 °C after installing and uninstalling simply .cab file.
After soft rest still 33.7 °C
Change to media panel play some music and watching videos 35.0°C, feels warm.
Sometimes I can get it 37-40°C in normal use, installing some .cab's and using some random programs etc. It's warm but I think it's normal.
I think it's battery what heats the phone and what voltage/electricityis it's using at the moment, more and longer using programs,
wifis, etc it uses more power and heats the battery, and when there is no any fans or etc cooling it only heats,
after u let it down in your hand and let it cool. Sounds logical to me.
Highest temperatur that I heve get to my xperia is 48°C, It was ****ing hot and it rly never can get that hot whit normal situation,
playing music, bowering, etc. It was in charge, never happened again,
normal charge temperatur in my x1 is 40°C or lilte higer.
Hope this gives some answers.
Sry for my english btw.
my fone is at 46C now... im chargin it from pc usb n talkin on da fone using BT the weather now is about 27C... sometimes i get like 48C 49C when in da car using tomtom 7 for about 1 to 2 hour... n da weather outside is only 50F...
is this normal?? will my fone explode??
Hello,
I´m from Germany, so sorry for my bad english.
As long as I´m sitting at home an my Diamond lies on my Desktop the Battery works good. In Standby there is enougth power for about 2-3 Days. But for example when I´m going shopping with my Diamond (not using it) the Battery goes empty very fast. After 3 hours it is nearly empty and this can´t be normal I think?
The phone is in standby in both cases? Any ideas?
Hm, maybe it's the temperature? Not sure how hot it is there, but it may be it being in your pocket and just getting very hot.
I'm not too good with ideas.
hehe thank you, but i don´t think so... it´s deep winter in germany i think it has to do with the sensor, if i´m moving my telephone in my bag? any iusses?
Do you get full signal when at home?
Maybe there is very little signal at some of the places you go to. That can also cause the battery to drain.
well moving around would mean it change gsm connection a lot more
which would use more power but 3 hours sounds kinda wild
unless it's running gps when ever you move around
do you have the device in your pocket? if so it might be getting buttons pressed and keeps switching the screen on and off. Try carrying it in a bag and see if that helps.
Thats it... i think my GPS is turned off, how can i see, it´s really turned off?
Yes i carry it in my pocket, but its in standby mode, display off and locked...
the signal @ home is okay... same thing everywhere else... for example @ work... while my diamond lies on my desktop, everything is okay... but if a carry it around, the battery goes empty very fast.
my diamond is about 3 weeks old and i have tested 3 or 4 different roms... always the same.
(sorry for my bad englisch again, i´m german)
Don't you have any apps using the G-sensor all the time? That would explain it, because it could do something when the position changes, which happen a lot while you are walking.
I think the only Programm which uses GPS is the TomTom Navigator... But it´s always closed...
First post for me so sorry if it makes no sense,
I read on a dutch forum that cold weather drains the battery far more then warmer weather.
Don't know if it's true or not?
Cold weather does indeed drain the battery faster.
Cold makes electrical components operate more effiicently. This isnt a good thing as it means battery power drains faster. If your phone is cold, especially outside you can expect your battery to drain twice as fast. Your 10 hours standby are suddenly only 5.
dannyoneill said:
Cold weather does indeed drain the battery faster.
Cold makes electrical components operate more effiicently. This isnt a good thing as it means battery power drains faster. If your phone is cold, especially outside you can expect your battery to drain twice as fast. Your 10 hours standby are suddenly only 5.
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but why the sudden increase? I mean I'm not having problems yet.
But I can imagine when you're working outside you're going to get issues.
And my older phones didn't make any noticable difference outside, I know the diamond has more electronics inside then my k800i from sony but when the phones in standbye all wireless apps off it shouldn't make that much difference should it?
Sry if my english isn't flawless I'm dutch and school was a long time ago
Hm, this may seem like a really really silly idea, but you could try something as like wrapping a cloth around your phone to keep it warm in your pocket/bag/etc and see how the battery life is.
Just an idea.
put it in the fridge and wait....
.... put your Diamond in the fridge and see if it drains your battery
then take your fridge outside and walk around and see if it gets worse
Without kidding: i went ice skating the last few days, took several foto's and video's and did not notice faster drain.
Hi,
just a proposal:
Have you tried f.e. with a programm like TaskManager (fdcsoft) to check whether there is some miscellanous cpu-usage?
Or maybe you can try to use the application 'nodata!' (see this forum) to first disable all not used connections and check your battery consumption afterwards with only the phone activated
Or - if its a gps problem - try to get the 'htc gps tool' (see this forum too) and check whether you gps is activated always
Hope s.th. helps (sorry for my bad english, but I'm from Germany too) - let us know
bye
Ralf
I have exactly the same problem!
I charge my diamond over night and its empty before the day is over!
I only make a few calls else its laying in my pocket locked with the ipod-like S2U2 slide thingy.
Frikin annoying
I use Nodata mms and 3g is disconected and i just bought a new bigger battery, same issue
Same problem here
I also have exactly the same problem as described by SaTanSJupp. Did somebody find a solution already?
I think if the battery life is so small, all the spacial functions like WiFi, GPS, video, movies are useless for example for a person that are not carrying an extra battery like me....
I have turned off wifi, 3g and so on to preserve mu battery...
So every time I want to wifi-ing, or GPS-ing like 20-30min I'm scared that I will got in the middle of the day with battery down and phone off....
So like that I'm avoiding to use all the nice features of the Tilt
What you think about it?
I think you're bored with killing kittens in the dark.
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I think you're bored with killing kittens in the dark.
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I'm not bored, I have it for a month, and I realized it!
Hi There...
You can do what I do... Whenever I use the GPS, I have it plugged in my car charger (I have one of those USB adaptor things and just use a retractable data cable).. I bought my Tilt used, had it well over a year now, and still have the original battery.. I typicalyl get 2 to 3 days use before I have to recharge... and I use Wifi quite a bit (my carriers internet services are great for TomTom and such.. but too slow for streaming or anything that needs broadband)... I dont; charge it though unless it is udner 5% usually.. if it is close, I will play some graphic intensive games liek Worms World Party for a while to get the battery down where I like to charge it at... When in the car, I always use the charger because I don;t think it really charges it while TomTom is running.. Usually I still have WiFi on.. when that kicks off the Wireless GPRS interent kicks in... and then with the GPS chip... and got the screen on BRIGHT when it is in the car... It uses the power at about the same rate I am using it (atleast thats my logic) The battery always seems to be at about hte same point it was when I first plugged it in give or take a few perfect if I have been using it for hours on a road trip...
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Hi There...
You can do what I do... Whenever I use the GPS, I have it plugged in my car charger (I have one of those USB adaptor things and just use a retractable data cable).. I bought my Tilt used, had it well over a year now, and still have the original battery.. I typicalyl get 2 to 3 days use before I have to recharge... and I use Wifi quite a bit (my carriers internet services are great for TomTom and such.. but too slow for streaming or anything that needs broadband)... I dont; charge it though unless it is udner 5% usually.. if it is close, I will play some graphic intensive games liek Worms World Party for a while to get the battery down where I like to charge it at... When in the car, I always use the charger because I don;t think it really charges it while TomTom is running.. Usually I still have WiFi on.. when that kicks off the Wireless GPRS interent kicks in... and then with the GPS chip... and got the screen on BRIGHT when it is in the car... It uses the power at about the same rate I am using it (atleast thats my logic) The battery always seems to be at about hte same point it was when I first plugged it in give or take a few perfect if I have been using it for hours on a road trip...
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Good, but I walk in mountains w/o a car , or wifi-ing on the street so..
What radio are you using? You may need to change to a less energy-intensive radio to preserve battery life. Keep the screen only as bright as you need it, as a really bright screen will drain the battery. Also, put the phone on lock and then turn it off to keep it from coming back on when you're not using it. I'm easily able to get a day or two from my battery by doing all of this, and I use the phone a lot.
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What radio are you using? You may need to change to a less energy-intensive radio to preserve battery life. Keep the screen only as bright as you need it, as a really bright screen will drain the battery. Also, put the phone on lock and then turn it off to keep it from coming back on when you're not using it. I'm easily able to get a day or two from my battery by doing all of this, and I use the phone a lot.
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I'm with:
PC ultimate v 11
radio 1.65.16.25
when I'm with turn off mode (push the off button to turn off monitor) it can last 3-4 days, but when I use it, like, call-5min or music-5min or gps-10min it goes down like 15% and simething like this (beem a bicture to PC - down 3-4%, and so on)...
Check your battery, ROM version,...
With heavy use I can last a whole day (3G connected all the time, maybe 30mins of browsing, 1-2 calls, 3 hours of music, 30mins GPS), with light use 2-3 days.
Maybe try flashing a different radio, to see if a different one improves your battery life. I recently went to a new ROM, and have tried five different radios to find the one that gives me great reception, but doesn't drain my battery in a few hours. Three of the radios drained my battery so fast that I was running out of power in the middle of the day. Another radio had poor reception. My current radio seems to be giving me good reception without draining the battery so quickly. It all depends on what works for your ROM, device and location, so it's trial and error until you find what works best for you.
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Maybe try flashing a different radio, to see if a different one improves your battery life. I recently went to a new ROM, and have tried five different radios to find the one that gives me great reception, but doesn't drain my battery in a few hours. Three of the radios drained my battery so fast that I was running out of power in the middle of the day. Another radio had poor reception. My current radio seems to be giving me good reception without draining the battery so quickly. It all depends on what works for your ROM, device and location, so it's trial and error until you find what works best for you.
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I have start a battery logging so after wile using/sleep time I can post a mA data to suggest me if it is ok
here you can see my battery log:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/11729584/Battery-log
I used the phone like 2min-video klip, then suspend 10min, then 5min-gpd and 5min-wifi and the result is ~17% down
is it normal?
Redo the same, but starting with a fully charged battery, and run the battery down completely until the phone turns off. It's the only way of judging how your battery performs, not just drain it a few percent as it means nothing at all. Percentage is not of absolute precision, especially if you rarely do full cycles to your battery, it's common to have the meter go down fast the first bit, then stay at 10 or 20% for several hours. Posting the same kind of log would be good.
Other than that, current consumption looks normal.
it's all about tradeoffs i suppose. i don't know of any other device of the same size that does all the things the kaiser does, that has a significantly improved/better battery life. the GPS my nokia 6210 navigator which i use as a backup phone/GPS does last slightly longer, but not all that much.
if you need something that lasts a whole day or whatever on battery, then the best bet apart from getting another battery is probably a dedicated device for that particular activity (GPS unit/netbook/whatever). but then it may not do some of the other things.
Hi all,
over the last 2 weeks i have noticed my diamond getting pretty damn hot on random occasions and really chewing through the battery, i have run task manager when this occurs but no process is shown using alot of CPU.
I have read alot of threads on here descibing similar symptoms, some are just people who have wifi on or using CPU intensive applications, this i expect. But a few other users have described symptoms similar to mine where they are not using the phone and nothing appears to be running.
I am getting the problem with both my original HTC battery and the 3rd party spare i brought.
From reading the board the only definite cure seems to be a hard reset.
What im really after is any suggestions you people may have that can help me determin the actual cause of the problem, for example is their any software that will log CPU usuage over time or other diagnostic ideas.
thanks for your time
checking email regularly?
rumpleforeskin said:
Hi all,
over the last 2 weeks i have noticed my diamond getting pretty damn hot on random occasions and really chewing through the battery, i have run task manager when this occurs but no process is shown using alot of CPU.
I have read alot of threads on here descibing similar symptoms, some are just people who have wifi on or using CPU intensive applications, this i expect. But a few other users have described symptoms similar to mine where they are not using the phone and nothing appears to be running.
I am getting the problem with both my original HTC battery and the 3rd party spare i brought.
From reading the board the only definite cure seems to be a hard reset.
What im really after is any suggestions you people may have that can help me determin the actual cause of the problem, for example is their any software that will log CPU usuage over time or other diagnostic ideas.
thanks for your time
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Maybe you might wanna check if you have the automatic mail checking feature on? Because I noticed that whenever I let my phone automatically look for email quite regularly (i.e. every 5 or 10 mins) it drains more battery then when you set it to check email every 2 hours for instance. Well that's what has helped in my case...hope this helps...
I have looked at my mail settings and my mail checks every 2 hours, i have had it set to 2 hours since i had the device (6 months) but this rapid battery drain has only started occuring in the last 2 weeks.
In that time i have not installed any new software, so am at a loose end as to the cause of the trouble
Hello,
I did had the same symptom : worked really good for 6 months (battery lasted for 30h +-) and in one time, battery was sucked out in 8 ! I did buy a new one (900mah) and it did the same. The only solution I find was to buy the 1350mah (htc) one and from this moment it last more than 2 days without any problem.
Also, I use G-light in place of the standard windows function and from this moment I really had a difference (from BatLog I went from 142mah to 123mah).
Hope it help (yeah I know: buying a bigger battery is not fun but for a device at this price, it's not so much...)
costp said:
Hello,
I did had the same symptom : worked really good for 6 months (battery lasted for 30h +-) and in one time, battery was sucked out in 8 ! I did buy a new one (900mah) and it did the same. The only solution I find was to buy the 1350mah (htc) one and from this moment it last more than 2 days without any problem.
Also, I use G-light in place of the standard windows function and from this moment I really had a difference (from BatLog I went from 142mah to 123mah).
Hope it help (yeah I know: buying a bigger battery is not fun but for a device at this price, it's not so much...)
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thanks for the feedback, i will order a new battery and give it a try, at the least it will prove if the problem is hardware or software related.
today my phone still has 63% battery since i removed it from charge at 11pm last night. The fact that the problem is intermittent is making it very dificult to diagnose.
Today I noticed my wi-fi drains battery as hell, it was lie 60%+ of battery down in less than 40 minutes. In the past it was like 40% max. The PowerGuard's current meter did not show anything alarming. So the problem seems to be hardware.
Already backed up and hard resetted. The phone is under warranty and so is battery; sending it to service to get it fixed.
Or, I missed something and I can fix it?
Hey,
Yeah I'm currently experiencing the same problem.. I tired just about everything from battery fix cab, radios, to roms. I even got the orginal extended battery. The battery worked really well for like 2 weeks and then it started to drain really fast as well.. My cousin have the same phone as me HTC Diamond, and his battery is verry good.. It can last a whole day with heavy usage no problem. Where as my 1340MAH battery would only lask for 14hrs max with heavy usage, and when we switch the battery same stuff happens... His battery on my phone drains quickly and mine last long on his phone...
So I came to the conclusion that it's definitely a hardware issue.
For those without battery problem, how much usage do you get out of a battery and what kind of things do you do with the phone? I'm just trying to gauge how bad my batter is. It will last about 8-9 hours, but that's with hald of that time spent on the internet on either 3g or edge. I've only had the phone for about a week so it's hard for me to compare it to anything else.
other little things like disabling autobacklight and disabling 3G will help as well.
rgds
One of the things you might want to check is if your phone is constantly trying to switch from 2g to 3g or HSPDA. This constant searching for a "faster" signal can make the phone quite hot and drain the battery quite quickly.
I had it on my diamond when I used to live at my old place as it was right on the edge of a 2g/HSPDA and the phone was constantly trying to get a decent HSPDA signal. The battery would last maybe half a day if I was lucky. Since moving to a decent 3g area, the battery now lasts me a good 2 days on nomal usage. This is with the original battery.
jfran said:
other little things like disabling autobacklight and disabling 3G will help as well.
rgds
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a good tip to save battery power which is something we all have to do, but i do not think its the cause of my new found rapid battery drain.
The last 6 moths i have been getting around a day to day and a half rom the the phone. now on random occasions ot will get real hot (like the gps/wifi is on or like the cpu is flat out) and the power goes in a few hours.
this is fine if its daytime and catch it but a few times its gone from 100% to 0% overnight and i have woken late for work.
Graffen said:
One of the things you might want to check is if your phone is constantly trying to switch from 2g to 3g or HSPDA. This constant searching for a "faster" signal can make the phone quite hot and drain the battery quite quickly.
I had it on my diamond when I used to live at my old place as it was right on the edge of a 2g/HSPDA and the phone was constantly trying to get a decent HSPDA signal. The battery would last maybe half a day if I was lucky. Since moving to a decent 3g area, the battery now lasts me a good 2 days on nomal usage. This is with the original battery.
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interesting, i will leave the phone on 2G for the next few weeks and see if i experiance the rapid drain, maybe i am on the edge of a 2G 3G nexus, as i do get a fairly weak signal here (2 bars 3G and full bars 2G)
thanks for the suggestion
rumpleforeskin said:
interesting, i will leave the phone on 2G for the next few weeks and see if i experiance the rapid drain, maybe i am on the edge of a 2G 3G nexus, as i do get a fairly weak signal here (2 bars 3G and full bars 2G)
thanks for the suggestion
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From you last sentance it does sound like it the 2g/3g switching that is cauing your problems.
i have this issue too.
my phone will drain ~5-7% every hour in standby. and when wifi is on it drains 2% every minute even staying on the home screen and me not doing anything on the phone.
from reading this thread, i can see that this is definitely not normal. looks like i'm headed for a dreaded hard reset...
Good day to all. At first sorry form my eanglish/
I have a same problem with diamond. It is overheating while charging at standby (battery temp. is about 50 C), and if it charges by USB, the battery temp is about 46 - 47 C. The phone's fly mode is switch on. HTC service couldn't answer me smth. But it says that same problem have 2 diamond from 1000, and only way to resolve problem is a change of mother board. in Russia it's about 250 euro.
And one more notice, which battery temp is 46 or 47 C, charging automaticaly switched off... Phone heating, but battery is not charging !!!
i've resolve problem...but don't know how i did it. I try to recharging stock acc. while 4 or 5 cicles, and today i have workable Diamond.
not discharge
not overheating
it's so strange, but it works
I've had my Galaxy S for a week and of all the reported problems the worst for me is the phone gets hot sometimes in use and while charging. I checked in the application system I downloaded from the android market and it showed temperatures up to 53 degrees celsius. This makes the phone impossible to hold to the ear for a phone call and even internet browsing difficult as it gets too hot to touch.
As a side note unless the carphonewarehouse offer you a 7/14 day return policy don't buy from them. I'm having problems now because of it.
I can't post links to the pictures I took showing this as my account is still new, but it's on picasa web album under galaxy s temperatures and I can send you the link in a message if you want.
Has anyone else experience this problem?
I did notice that the phone can get quite warm at times. But for me even after 1hour in the sun outside the phone wasn't uncomfortable to touch. Much less to hot to hold to the ear.
My phone is charging right now and temp is 44 degrees centigrade. But considering the room-temp is almost 35, its not that bad. I'd rather have my phone becoming a bit warm than it taking forever to charge.
Ive only noticed this when gaming and charging from AC, its not that big a problem for me really, all smartphones suffer from this to some degree. My old Touch HD would get really hot if just wifi was active which is more annoying than this.
Well I have the desire as well and had many smart phones in the past that got warm but never as hot as the galaxy s, nor as frequently when used. It doesn't stay hot, but when it gets hot I can't put it to my ear to phone people. It happens mid call after I've use the phone for awhile.
Well that doesnt sound right, mine doesnt get hot like that, so perhaps yours is faulty?
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Same here (USB also)
but other than that the phone remains colder than my HTC Magic.
It does get hot sometimes during calling but not that much.
I just got a new one (old one replaced) and I'm disappointed I'm suffering from this problem also. Mine also reaches up to 53 degrees.
have same problem but....
I downloaded a app "Advanced Task Killer" and killed all the apps that were working in background and i use from time to time, like YMessenger, Mail....
now the phone even if its charging the temp is between 35C and 40C. and maybe the battery will not discharge that fast
well it gets warm here 2 . but i had the same with my iphone 3g .i think its the working of the processor that makes it hot .its the same as with a pc when you run it to its high performance it gets hot 2
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Well I have the desire as well and had many smart phones in the past that got warm but never as hot as the galaxy s, nor as frequently when used. It doesn't stay hot, but when it gets hot I can't put it to my ear to phone people. It happens mid call after I've use the phone for awhile.
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that sounds like normal
my old HTC Athena, gets really hot after long sessions of WiFi, 3G, or GPS, and in the SGS i get similar temperature when using the same stuff.
no heat from Bluetooth, or at least it's not noticeable
but ALL cell phones gets hot after long voice conversations.
Some times
Allways when im playing games my SGS gets pretty hot but not in AC .
From the troubleshootig section of the manual -
Your device is hot to the touch
When you use applications that require more power or use
applications on your device for an extended period of time,
your device may feel hot to the touch. This is normal and
should not affect your device's lifespan or performance.
It gets quite hot sometimes. Battery might rise from 33C in idle to around 45C on load.
I think it is the GPS chipset doing really weird calculations. That happened to me in the hardest math classes in college. Whenever I was totally lost and clueless about something during a calculus test I'd always get nervous and hot and sweaty.
Never killed me tho. I think the SGS will be fine even while hot.
I had the VIbrant for a week now.. i can't really say its gotten hot... maybe once.. but its not something severe, because i can't really remember how hot it was...
but from my research... iPhone4 is doing it, people complained they couldn't hold it close to their face while talking..... All the 1ghz SnapDragon's been doing it...there has been reports of the device too hot to even charge....even the underlcocked Acer Liquid E....
I've actually overused it the first few days...i can't really recall this happening to my phone...
Charging with screen on made my SGS rather hot. So now I try to leave the screen off when charging. Come winter that might change, not always a disadvantage to have something hot in a cold car
Seems to get hot in a location around the SIM card area on the phone when charging from USB or AC.
Not worried about it though.
Today try out the Fancy Widget, but later uninstalled it, I already disabled auto refresh everything, but my SGS get overheated and battery down by 50% just in 5 hours.. ......Anyone know why?
charging time
How long does your phone takes to charge ?
Mine takes about 3-4 hour hours on pc usb and about 3 hours on power adapter come with the phone.
My HTC tytn2 with extended battery 2800 only takes 2.5 hours to charge over the pc usb charge.
Mine's getting a little bit hot after trying some 3d games (asphalt i.e, i don't play too much) or clips (few minutes). it seems to have a particular "hot spot" at the portion of the sim card/sd card, the rest of the phone feels quite cool, and i can hold it without any hassle.
Charging the phone at the moment. 42 celcius.
Are you using setcpu? 10 mins ago I was using setcpu and noticed my phone gotten hot suddenly - I didnt do any sort of ocing. Checked the temperature and was shocked to see 53c Uninstalled it and the temperatre returns to a more acceptable level