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Is there anyway I can use Bluetooth to connect to my ps3 to use 3g internet? Thanks

If you are rooted you should be able to use wifi tethering.

Yeah,I'm rooted. But my ps3 doesn't have wireless internet connection.
Just wondering if I can do it through Bluetooth. If so, how can I get them to pair. Or is there a way to do it through wired tether. If so, where can I get the wired tether?

PDAnet supports both USB and BT tethering. I've never used it. It's in the Market, just search "tether" and there's a free version. The free version blocks secure sites.

As far as I know, the PS3 does not have any Bluetooth modem capabilities. With root, your options are WiFi tether, USB tether, and Bluetooth tether. As far as I know, there is no adapter for connecting your phone to an ethernet connection for wired tethering.
I was under the impression that all PS3s had WiFi. Am I mistaken? Or does yours just not work?
At any rate, what you can do is use a computer (desktop, laptop, any computer will do) as an intermediary between the phone and the PS3.
1. Tether the phone to the computer (with any of the three, pick your poison).
2. Setup Internet Connection Sharing on whatever connection the phone connects to the computer with.
3. Then all that is left is connecting the ethernet port on the computer to the ethernet port on your PS3 and setting up the connection.
As long as either both ethernet ports are auto-sensing or you use a cross-over cable, it should work.

suppliesidejesus said:
As far as I know, the PS3 does not have any Bluetooth modem capabilities. With root, your options are WiFi tether, USB tether, and Bluetooth tether. As far as I know, there is no adapter for connecting your phone to an ethernet connection for wired tethering.
I was under the impression that all PS3s had WiFi. Am I mistaken? Or does yours just not work?
At any rate, what you can do is use a computer (desktop, laptop, any computer will do) as an intermediary between the phone and the PS3.
1. Tether the phone to the computer (with any of the three, pick your poison).
2. Setup Internet Connection Sharing on whatever connection the phone connects to the computer with.
3. Then all that is left is connecting the ethernet port on the computer to the ethernet port on your PS3 and setting up the connection.
As long as either both ethernet ports are auto-sensing or you use a cross-over cable, it should work.
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Thanks a lot. I might have wifi on my ps3 I never tried it . But I will now.

Good luck with this, I can assure you that you will have a high bill with in the next few months! PS3 + Wireless Tether = High Bill and possible disconnection just a heads up!

I have unlimited data

Since we're on this topic, why do people keep saying you'll get disconnected or a higher bill if you tether? I've been told by a verizon store rep that Verizon doesn't even start "monitoring" your usage until you go beyond 5gigs/month. I've used at least 3-4gig consistently for the last 3 months with streaming music every day for a few hours each day, sometimes all day.
How does that differ from someone using it for tethering instead of streaming music, downloading apps, etc? Data is data right? Is there a way for Verizon to know you're tethered as apposed to just a heavy phone-only data user?
Has anyone ever really had a problem with this? I mean, it says "unlimited" on the data plan, and I've found no fine print limiting it anywhere so can they really legally do anything? (Thinking false advertising lawsuit if they did......)

suppliesidejesus said:
As far as I know, the PS3 does not have any Bluetooth modem capabilities. With root, your options are WiFi tether, USB tether, and Bluetooth tether. As far as I know, there is no adapter for connecting your phone to an ethernet connection for wired tethering.
I was under the impression that all PS3s had WiFi. Am I mistaken? Or does yours just not work?
At any rate, what you can do is use a computer (desktop, laptop, any computer will do) as an intermediary between the phone and the PS3.
1. Tether the phone to the computer (with any of the three, pick your poison).
2. Setup Internet Connection Sharing on whatever connection the phone connects to the computer with.
3. Then all that is left is connecting the ethernet port on the computer to the ethernet port on your PS3 and setting up the connection.
As long as either both ethernet ports are auto-sensing or you use a cross-over cable, it should work.
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I have done this before and use it to play MAG almost everyday for a couple of weeks. I never had any lag or disconnects and i never had a high phone bill and never disconnected from Verizon.

piercedtiger said:
Since we're on this topic, why do people keep saying you'll get disconnected or a higher bill if you tether? I've been told by a verizon store rep that Verizon doesn't even start "monitoring" your usage until you go beyond 5gigs/month. I've used at least 3-4gig consistently for the last 3 months with streaming music every day for a few hours each day, sometimes all day.
How does that differ from someone using it for tethering instead of streaming music, downloading apps, etc? Data is data right? Is there a way for Verizon to know you're tethered as apposed to just a heavy phone-only data user?
Has anyone ever really had a problem with this? I mean, it says "unlimited" on the data plan, and I've found no fine print limiting it anywhere so can they really legally do anything? (Thinking false advertising lawsuit if they did......)
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I've heard that Verizon can and will monitor your usage and if you use huge amounts (probably like 10+ gigs a month) then they may shut you off or at least look into it. Also heard from Gizmodo I think it was, that some cell company's don't ACTUALLY mean unlimited when they say unlimited data. Some probably have caps at about 20+ gigs or something. Never heard which company's it was though. And this all may just be a bunch of crap so don't quote me on this

I know the wireless tether for what ever reason the ps3 will not pick it up atleast it wouldnt for me I tried it a couple times just to check and see if it would work but no luck.

edgeupgx said:
I know the wireless tether for what ever reason the ps3 will not pick it up atleast it wouldnt for me I tried it a couple times just to check and see if it would work but no luck.
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I too have this problem. Im using android tether and tried many different settings. I changed the channel, the ip, with and without a passcode, and got nothing. I think I do remember seeing in the bluetooth settings something about bluetooth modem. I hope someone can figure it out.

cwhite8883 said:
I too have this problem. Im using android tether and tried many different settings. I changed the channel, the ip, with and without a passcode, and got nothing. I think I do remember seeing in the bluetooth settings something about bluetooth modem. I hope someone can figure it out.
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the ps3, along with pretty much everything else except for actual computers, cant connect to Ad-Hoc networks as an internet connection.
you can though, if you have a Cat 5e crossover cable (radioshack has em), plug that into your network port, then go into network adapter settings and bridge your network cable port and USB connection port. the ps3 might be able to play off of that, it works on the 360 atleast

Ok well looks like I know what I am going to mess with when I get home. Thanks for the help.
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No, I just called Verizon and once you break 20 gig's of tethered data, they shut that **** down.

Netflix streaming quality

I seem to be having an issue with the streaming quality of nextflix when I am at home. I have a netgear WNDR3700-100NAS router and I cannot tell the difference in quality if I am on wifi or the 3g. When I am at work on our wifi the quality is much better. At home I have several computers and a google tv and they all stream very well. Any suggestions?
Thanks,
Scott

I have a feeling the wifi router at work is industrial and is capable of more bandwidth than your home. From what you stated the quality is better at work than at home. You also stated you had a lot of internet ready devices already plugged in.
Try this, powercycle your router (it may sound trivial and you've probably already done it). I had the same issue too but I use a D-Link DGL 4500.
Also try to do a speed test from your phone and another wireless device and compare speeds. Finally make sure your router is not close to your home phone(if you have a cordless)

alabij said:
I have a feeling the wifi router at work is industrial and is capable of more bandwidth than your home. From what you stated the quality is better at work than at home. You also stated you had a lot of internet ready devices already plugged in.
Try this, powercycle your router (it may sound trivial and you've probably already done it). I had the same issue too but I use a D-Link DGL 4500.
Also try to do a speed test from your phone and another wireless device and compare speeds. Finally make sure your router is not close to your home phone(if you have a cordless)
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I will power cycle the router as mentioned. What is the best way to perform the speed test?
No landline phone at all. Also the rest of the devices connect wirelessly and were not being utilized when I have tried to use netflix on my phone.

Well stangely enough it was not a real issue at all. It seems that when the streaming first starts that the quality is a little poor. Shortly after the movie starts streaming (15-30 seconds at the most) that the picture clears right up.

Using The Nexus S 4G As A Dedicated Router

First before people ask...no I can't get a decent ISP in my new apartment complex. They have a "deal" with some horrible small-time cable company that I've never heard of, and all the neighbors hate it. On top of that I have talked my work into paying for the account I plan on using for this since it's "required" so that I can work from home as needed.
That being said, I've done some initial speed tests at my new place and I get a consistent 11Mbps/3Mbps over Sprint's 4G/WiMAX, which is more than enough for my needs. I know that will fluctuate, but even so I'm excited about this project!
So sure I could just dump WiFi Tether on a rooted NS4G and leave it be, but I want to try taking it to the next level. What I'm thinking is a full-time router, much like a pfSense/SmoothWall/Vyatta distro, using the WiMAX (And 3G as a backup) for the WAN and the WiFi for the network connectivity. Unless I can figure out a better solution I would probably use a WRT54GL with dd-wrt to act as the wireless bridge for my wired clients.
It'll always be plugged into power, so battery isn't an issue (But a nice bonus for when the power does go out). I would like to have an always running bandwidth monitoring screen that I can just glance at. Of course there would be remote monitoring/configuration, as well as some built-in "apps".
I know this is a big task to take on, but I need something to focus on in regards to getting into the development side of things and I think this would be a great place to start. However I've got some questions that I think ya'll could help me figure out:
1 - What should I do for providing services like DHCP, DNS, Port Forwarding, NAT, etc? I know it would require some heavy lifting but I could cross-compile standard linux based apps like dhcpd right?
Or does anyone know of that perfect app that might help me get a head start? I don't mind using different apps/services and then focusing on making them all work together, but if there is a "simple" solution already that would be fine by me!
2 - Since it's not going to be a multimedia demon, is there a particular light-weight, almost console-only ROM that might serve to be the best base to build from? I would think something that is more geared towards running desktop-based applications versus the standard apps.
3 - WiMAX needs to work of course, how would that play into it?
4 - Is that anything that might allow me to plugin a standard ethernet cable? I don't think I've seen a mini-usb to ethernet yet...do they have a mini-usb to regular usb at least?
I know these are very basic questions, but I just want to get a pulse on if this is just an unobtainable idea or not. I don't think it is, it's basically a different way of getting to a MiFi. Also if anyone knows of anyone elses past attempts at this I would love to know where I can read up on it in. Thanx in advance!!!

My phone overheats if it tethers for hours upon hours. Gets kind of annoying. I suggest you buy a external charger and another battery so you don't have to play " let the battery cool down" game.
I had the same issue on my other 2 smartphones while tethering (Samsung instinct with ported 1.6. And optimus s)
I would say try finding a loophole or move. Slow internet is a whore. I use hot sport off my phone to my ps3. And I can only play from 11pm-6am lag-free.
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Are you oc'ed or something I tether my phone for hours a day and havent had it over heat except for when I was oc'ed above 1.2ghz.

There are a few issues with this.
1.Restrictive firewalling policies on the ISP side. Blocked ports/ throttling.
2.Added latency from wireless > wireless bridge. With wireless you will need to tether to a wireless bridge with ethernet ports for your computers. wrt54g and the like with dd-wrt work fine for this. A linux computer with a wireless card would also work. Tethering with USB to a linux computer that you can edit the iptables rules would be best.
3.Double NAT. This is something you must avoid to have a proper connection. With wireless your tethering program is going to use NAT, but then your bridge will probably also use NAT. This will leave you with a very convoluted connection. Tethering with USB would probably also be best here. In the past when I have used USB tethering (motor razr) the host PC gets assigned the true WAN address of the phone via a virtual adapter. Thus this would only require setting up NAT/ iptables once on the host PC.
My suggestion would be to exchange the phone/plan for a 3g/4g data card that works with GNU/Linux and setup NAT that way of course along with an ethernet switch. Good luck with it.

Jason_25 said:
There are a few issues with this.
1.Restrictive firewalling policies on the ISP side. Blocked ports/ throttling.
2.Added latency from wireless > wireless bridge. With wireless you will need to tether to a wireless bridge with ethernet ports for your computers. wrt54g and the like with dd-wrt work fine for this. A linux computer with a wireless card would also work. Tethering with USB to a linux computer that you can edit the iptables rules would be best.
3.Double NAT. This is something you must avoid to have a proper connection. With wireless your tethering program is going to use NAT, but then your bridge will probably also use NAT. This will leave you with a very convoluted connection. Tethering with USB would probably also be best here. In the past when I have used USB tethering (motor razr) the host PC gets assigned the true WAN address of the phone via a virtual adapter. Thus this would only require setting up NAT/ iptables once on the host PC.
My suggestion would be to exchange the phone/plan for a 3g/4g data card that works with GNU/Linux and setup NAT that way of course along with an ethernet switch. Good luck with it.
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But he would then be giving up unlimited data as a result of leaving the phone plans.
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[Q]Bionic + Router + External PS

Hello Bionic Community,
I pay for the mobile hotspot feature from Verizon and use it as my dedicated internet for my home. I have the phone connected to a sapido router and use USB tethering to distribute internet to everything at my house.
The connection is great!! The only problem that I notice is, is that if I stream a movie or video chat with someone, the battery on the phone takes a hit.
Is there a way to USB tether the phone and connect the phone to the wall power supply so that the battery does not drain so fast? I've investigated using a USB y-cable, but am scared to do this as I don't want to fry my phone or router.
What do you guys think? Can this even be done?

In theory you can ditch the whole cable to phone. What you could do is take the phone and wirelessly tether it to the router so that the router becomes a repeater then just plug whatever Ethernet cables you want into the router to give it a hard line connection. To do this you need a Lynksis (Cisco) router that has the option of becoming a wireless repeater, if yours does great. Google how to set up a wireless repeater.
What you can also do is what my friends and I do on the road. If you have an old laptop that has xp-or up ( i havent tested 8 yet) you could tether you phone to computer then in the wireless connections settings set it to where the computer is used to access the internet. Then send that connection out to a router. Also remember whenever you are using a 3g connection AND charging at the same time your phone will get extremely hot. Use an app to keep an eye on the temp. Good luck and happy tethering

I feel your pain, I think the best option would be, as waffleb051 described, usb tether to pc then share internet connection from that pc, windows ICS, so that you are charging the phone & also tethering 3g/4g from your phone. But beware of the battery temp.
I wish a smartphone would function like a laptop while charger is connected, it would draw the power directly from charger instead of drawing through the battery.
Just out of curiosity, how much data you are using per month for the whole house, on average?

I have been doing this for years except that my phone is rooted so I don't have to pay the rip-off fee of $30/mo for tethering.
I use an old Vista PC with a wifi usb adapter and then use ICS to share the Internet connection to my entire network (7 users). Then I just plug the phone into the phone's charger and let it rip. There have been no problems even when I leave it all connected for five days straight. Using the wifi option keeps the phone from getting too hot. Be sure to turn off features like GPS because if too many things are running, you may end up pulling more power than the charger can keep up with.
I run 20-30 gigs per month with no problem at all. And no slow downs or calls from big red.
I did try to set up my Belkin router as a repeater but it did not see the phone and thus, did not work. Not all repeaters will work.

.....I forgot the mention that android as of now cannot connect to and ad-hoc network so the router idea might be out, I will test it tonight and post results
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I am currently on day 22 of 29 on my cycle and I'm currently at 45 gigs. Sometimes I hit 80 if I watch a lot of movies / justin.tv. I use more data because I chose to cut the cable cord... this is how I justify to myself spending the extra $30 per month for the mobile hotspot feature.
I would have gone with the wireless tether feature, but for some reason, this is not stable for me. My copy of the bionic will reboot every hour or so when in wifi tether mode. I've used both the built in wifi tether option, as well as the wireless tether for root users. Any ideas to increase stability?
I agree that a better option would be to tether through a computer, but the sapido router is cheaper, lower power usage and has a pretty powerful wifi radio. I also understand that they make a portable version of the router. Maybe this portable version would be better to tether compared to a laptop?
The phone does get hot when I tether, but not that hot; even when I'm video conferencing. I'm thinking if the phone can get enough juice from the usb connection somehow, then the battery can be removed during extended need of the internet. Maybe someone knows of a battery AC adapter or something??
Thanks!

calimansi said:
I am currently on day 22 of 29 on my cycle and I'm currently at 45 gigs. Sometimes I hit 80 if I watch a lot of movies / justin.tv. I use more data because I chose to cut the cable cord... this is how I justify to myself spending the extra $30 per month for the mobile hotspot feature.
I would have gone with the wireless tether feature, but for some reason, this is not stable for me. My copy of the bionic will reboot every hour or so when in wifi tether mode. I've used both the built in wifi tether option, as well as the wireless tether for root users. Any ideas to increase stability?
I agree that a better option would be to tether through a computer, but the sapido router is cheaper, lower power usage and has a pretty powerful wifi radio. I also understand that they make a portable version of the router. Maybe this portable version would be better to tether compared to a laptop?
The phone does get hot when I tether, but not that hot; even when I'm video conferencing. I'm thinking if the phone can get enough juice from the usb connection somehow, then the battery can be removed during extended need of the internet. Maybe someone knows of a battery AC adapter or something??
Thanks!
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Are you in a 4G area? I am not but wish I were. You do know that you can root your phone and then drop the $30 free from big red yet still tether? Its what I a m doing for more than 2 years with no problems at all.
I have no stability problems doing it via wifi. I was getting data drops before the .902 update. I would take your phone back or call tech support and get it fixed before you root it. You paid good money and should expect good service from both the phone and big red.

USB

Does anyone understand why Android Auto actually requires USB to be plugged in (at least in the Sonata)?

I am also interested in this. But I read somewhere (take it with a grain of salt) it will only use WiFi in the future. But here is my question - When I use WiFi, data connection goes off. So how would data requiring apps such as Maps or Google Music work?

WiFi tethering would be a battery killer.
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km8j said:
WiFi tethering would be a battery killer.
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Your car doesn't have a power outlet?

mike.s said:
Your car doesn't have a power outlet?
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Doing that puts you right back to the issue of needing the phone plugged in...

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Doing that puts you right back to the issue of needing the phone plugged in...
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Exactly, and that's the main reason why USB is the primary method for Android Auto <> HU connections.
Many HUs do not contain GPS, so the phone GPS is used, and that eats a lot of power, particularly for navigation, Waze or any app that uses regular GPS updates.
Bluetooth does not have the bandwidth needed for video, never mind adding high quality audio too.
Wifi Direct is the secondary method for Android Auto <> HU connections and it works right now using my HU app. Google may have issues to try and fix before they make it official; they haven't even announced it yet, and if there are too many problems they may never announce or ship it.
Apple Carplay is expected to add Wifi support in the coming iOS update. It was supposed to be out earlier but likely it had problems.
It remains to be seen how (un)reliable AA and CP are over Wifi, in noisy RF environments in traffic. If your phone is in your pocket while Wifi tethering and doing navigation, it may get uncomfortably hot while draining pretty fast.
I think that for many people, the "inconvenience" of plugging and unplugging will be outweighed by the inconveniences of hot pockets/purses and drained batteries.
The story would be different if most of the "smarts" were inside the HU and the phone simply shared/synced some info (though just Wifi tethering alone can create heat and battery drain issues). The current model is that most processing occurs inside of the phone. This helps keep "ecosystem advantages" in the hands of Google and Apple, instead of the car and HU OEMs.

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Doing that puts you right back to the issue of needing the phone plugged in...
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The comment was about what happens if AA only works with WiFi. And you wouldn't always need to plug in (e.g. drive to the corner store), just for extended use.
Even when plugging in it's far preferable to USB networking - when using a USB (2.x) data connection, the phone is limited to drawing 500 mA by the USB specification. For many (most?) phones, that means the battery will drain if doing tether/GPS/cell data, and even if a phone can keep up with all of that, it will charge slowly. If doing a WiFi data connection, the USB charging spec can be used, and the phone can draw up to 1.5 A, enough to do WiFi tether, GPS, cell data and charge simultaneously.

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The comment was about what happens if AA only works with WiFi. And you wouldn't always need to plug in (e.g. drive to the corner store), just for extended use.
Even when plugging in it's far preferable to USB networking - when using a USB (2.x) data connection, the phone is limited to drawing 500 mA by the USB specification. For many (most?) phones, that means the battery will drain if doing tether/GPS/cell data, and even if a phone can keep up with all of that, it will charge slowly. If doing a WiFi data connection, the USB charging spec can be used, and the phone can draw up to 1.5 A, enough to do WiFi tether, GPS, cell data and charge simultaneously.
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If AA ever officially supports Wifi, it will be in addition to USB, as it is now. And other connection methods may be added in future, like Ethernet, but that will be more needed for "Android in the car" that runs Android on the HU.
You are correct.
The USB charging/powering limit also arises when people use USB Host mode or regular USB device mode for various reasons. Some devices have custom kernels that can bypass these limits, but that can create some issues as well.

Didn't see anyone mention the fact that media streaming is done digitally over USB - providing much higher audio fidelity than over Bluetooth. This could also be done over WiFi if/when that option comes to AA.

Pedrore said:
Didn't see anyone mention the fact that media streaming is done digitally over USB - providing much higher audio fidelity than over Bluetooth. This could also be done over WiFi if/when that option comes to AA.
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Not always.
My Pioneer 4100NEX is VERY insistent on putting audio over Bluetooth, and it won't even fail over to USB when the maximum of 3 BT devices are paired; just endless error message popups.
And there are at least 2 possible ways to put audio over USB:
- One is via Androids audio for accessory mode protocol, which only supports output (not mic input) and only 44.1K, 16 bits, 2 channels.
- The other is Android Auto's method which tends to use 48K, or 16K for voice.

My 4100 only connects to voice over Bluetooth when android auto is active. Media goes through usb

The 2.4 GHZ ISM band is *so* overcrowded already and is getting worse each year. Bluetooth, wifi and now the MNO carriers want on on that spectrum. A wired connection has *got* to be better in long run.

USB C which has native support for video, seems like the answer.