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Alright, check it out. I have seen allot of comments on here about how AT&T most likely lock the gps to their telenav service and many are upset. Well I shared your concerns until I found the update for the HTC Mogal, someone posted a few days ago. I have never tried tom tom and of course in a perfect world we could choose, however I must say I do not care anymore. The updated telenav is pretty sick IMO, as they changed the interface and added traffic support. What else is missing? I for one am content and just thought I would share so some can relax a bit.
*zero* chance of ATT locking the GPS to a particular service
RacerX10 said:
*zero* chance of ATT locking the GPS to a particular service
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Based on what? You speak as if this is the definitive answer. How do you know? I am all for it as I wouldnt be oppose to trying a different type of navi but there seems to be different opinions on this. Since you know everything, when is the tilt being released, also will it be in the morning or afternoon delivery truck?
wait 2 weeks and you will see
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Alright, check it out. I have seen allot of comments on here about how AT&T most likely lock the gps to their telenav service and many are upset. Well I shared your concerns until I found the update for the HTC Mogal, someone posted a few days ago. I have never tried tom tom and of course in a perfect world we could choose, however I must say I do not care anymore. The updated telenav is pretty sick IMO, as they changed the interface and added traffic support. What else is missing? I for one am content and just thought I would share so some can relax a bit.
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I, for one, am not going to pay for the Telenav service! I just want a GPS for those "detour" days and road trips. Stand-alone GPS devices out there do not need a paid subscription (except for traffic) so I would prefer 8925's GPS to be the same way. Even if AT&T locks the GPS to Telenav, I am pretty sure it will be a software lock and guess where do we hangout? xda-developers!!! After some time, we will have custom ROMs popping everywhere that will not only enable the "maybe-locked" GPS but also get rid of all the bloatware and make 8925 one snappy device.
it is nice to know that the tel nav is good. i have stepped inside 4 different AT&T stores to check on kaiser availability and each time I have also asked whether the GPS will be locked to tel nav and each time i was told you will be free to use whatever software you want.
1. Wont matter as XDA would un-do locking to TelNav.
2. While I might actually pay and use TeleNav...it would be a dealbreaker if for some dumb reason like XDA could not break it or if ATT removed GPS all together. Not saying either would happen, just that for me GPS is the only reason to upgrade at this point.
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1. Wont matter as XDA would un-do locking to TelNav.
2. While I might actually pay and use TeleNav...it would be a dealbreaker if for some dumb reason like XDA could not break it or if ATT removed GPS all together. Not saying either would happen, just that for me GPS is the only reason to upgrade at this point.
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WHAT! GPS IS THE ONLY REASON TO UPGRADE? How can you say that when the screen tilts up? LOL. Just kiddin brotha, but seriously dont the specs on this bad boy get your attention as well? Although I consider myself the dumbest smart person I know, I still notice it has double the rom/ram whatever the hell it is and has 3 mp camera, and is the newest htc for at&t. Come on dude, navi is the only reason?
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WHAT! GPS IS THE ONLY REASON TO UPGRADE? How can you say that when the screen tilts up? LOL. Just kiddin brotha, but seriously dont the specs on this bad boy get your attention as well? Although I consider myself the dumbest smart person I know, I still notice it has double the rom/ram whatever the hell it is and has 3 mp camera, and is the newest htc for at&t. Come on dude, navi is the only reason?
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For me yes it must be GPS. The Hermes was great for me, I just like the GPS, and a NEW toy. But a new toy for $400-$800 better have full GPS even if I need to run an HTC ROM, it at least better have the hardware and be hackable. The 3MP camera is nothing for me. I dont take pics with a phone and when I do once a year, I dont expect much.
I look at my current desktop PC that is a model year 2003, yes its old but I run XP PRO and do everything I need at fairly quick speeds after the RAM upgrade. So why buy a new PC.....people say faster processor and more Video RAM, etc....but for what the PC does it works great. So why upgrade.
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Based on what? You speak as if this is the definitive answer. How do you know? I am all for it as I wouldnt be oppose to trying a different type of navi but there seems to be different opinions on this. Since you know everything, when is the tilt being released, also will it be in the morning or afternoon delivery truck?
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Now that it's confirmed that GPS IS NOT LOCKED TO TELENAV, I thought I'd go ahead and point out that I was right.
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DLD
definitely a crap ?
well guys , many of you now have it and many of us are thinking to buy...but... there are some worst rumors....
give us a definitely judge , thanks
stesa said:
definitely a crap ?
well guys , many of you now have it and many of us are thinking to buy...but... there are some worst rumors....
give us a definitely judge , thanks
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i love it, works like a charm for me, but you need to take others opinions like a grain of salt until you actually try the device yourself..
I think the Diamond will have some issues as lots of other devices, but they'll be worked out with later ROMs.
Are you in the USA? If so how can it work like a charm with NO 3G or 850Mhz support? So if you are an AT&T NO EDGE?????? I have the unit and use both SIMS and no better one or the other..
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i love it, works like a charm for me, but you need to take others opinions like a grain of salt until you actually try the device yourself..
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Are you in the USA? If so how can it work like a charm with NO 3G or 850Mhz support? So if you are an AT&T NO EDGE?????? I have the unit and use both SIMS and no better one or the other..
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Did i say i was in the US? if you look up the right on my profile you will see a flag, if you put your mouse over it you will see what country im from.
The only thing I dont like is the ring volume which is quite soft...
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Did i say i was in the US? if you look up the right on my profile you will see a flag, if you put your mouse over it you will see what country im from.
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Walshy, are you using it on Next G? I've got one coming (I'm using VF 3G) - it was posted from Sydney Monday evidently....
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Walshy, are you using it on Next G? I've got one coming (I'm using VF 3G) - it was posted from Sydney Monday evidently....
Kevin
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nah i bought a prepaid optus sim and testing it with that at the moment, $70 bucks gets you 300MB and some decent call time so thats cool with me, and whey optus roll out their 900Mhz 3G network it will work a treat...
this phone doesnt operate on NextG(850Mhz) it's 3G bands are 900/2100
telstra are a rip off. im on optus on a $70 prepaid turbocharge. gives u $650 worth of calls/txts/video calls and 300mb of data.
telstra soon enough will drop their prices when optus roll out their 900MHz HSPA network.
my advice: go for touch pro if kb and memory slot r important to u.
Hmm, just got mine and have that horrible sinking feeling that I've blown £400 on something that I'm not going to be very happy with.
First, it crashed when loading the customisations, so I hard reset and this time it went ok, but then another application (Touchflo) crashed soon afterwards. It's been ok since, but doesn't inspire confidence.
Second, Touchflo is quite laggy at times and also fiddly, these may be issues for me because I have big hands.
Third, the whole Touchflo thing seems a bit fiddly, I'm almost tempted to run with a standard HTC or Windows 6.1 homescreen to see if there's any improvement.
Fourth, the soft keyboard has keys that are very close together, even in portrait mode the keys are a bind to use.
Fifth, wifi not working very well with my router, keeps disconnecting, but my TyTn2, S730, S710, TyTn, E51 all work ok on it.
I've not had a chance yet to test battery, call quality etc.
Fingers crossed it's just a learning process and with time maybe the whole Touchflo thing will be refined a little more.
It certainly doesn't feel anything like as slick as my Ipod Touch for typing, browsing, music etc.
I have a bad feeling that I should have waited for the 3g iPhone.
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Did i say i was in the US? if you look up the right on my profile you will see a flag, if you put your mouse over it you will see what country im from.
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I know it's a bit off topic, but how do you get the flag and the mobile carrier's logo to display on your posts?
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Hmm, just got mine and have that horrible sinking feeling that I've blown £400 on something that I'm not going to be very happy with.
First, it crashed when loading the customisations, so I hard reset and this time it went ok, but then another application (Touchflo) crashed soon afterwards. It's been ok since, but doesn't inspire confidence.
Second, Touchflo is quite laggy at times and also fiddly, these may be issues for me because I have big hands.
Third, the whole Touchflo thing seems a bit fiddly, I'm almost tempted to run with a standard HTC or Windows 6.1 homescreen to see if there's any improvement.
Fourth, the soft keyboard has keys that are very close together, even in portrait mode the keys are a bind to use.
Fifth, wifi not working very well with my router, keeps disconnecting, but my TyTn2, S730, S710, TyTn, E51 all work ok on it.
I've not had a chance yet to test battery, call quality etc.
Fingers crossed it's just a learning process and with time maybe the whole Touchflo thing will be refined a little more.
It certainly doesn't feel anything like as slick as my Ipod Touch for typing, browsing, music etc.
I have a bad feeling that I should have waited for the 3g iPhone.
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Hey, don't get too down so soon...have a look for the Diamond tweaks - they'll speed up your device (especially TouchFlo) like you won't believe!
That's the difference between the Touch Diamond and the iPhone. It's much easier to fix problems with the Touch Diamond through registry edits and third party software, than it is to fix problems with the iPhone...
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That's the difference between the Touch Diamond and the iPhone. It's much easier to fix problems with the Touch Diamond through registry edits and third party software, than it is to fix problems with the iPhone...
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too right you are.
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That's the difference between the Touch Diamond and the iPhone. It's much easier to fix problems with the Touch Diamond through registry edits and third party software, than it is to fix problems with the iPhone...
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Yeah, but why the heck do we have to!? Can't HTC build a quality device that just works out of the box?! Then leave it to us mostly to customize it and somehow improve its usability!? Man, everyday I read about newer and bigger bugs and flaws. May be most of them will be overcomed thanks to this comunity, but were is HTC with its support for its high-priced devices!?
I'm a tech geek alright, and I love having all the newest tech gadgets around. I've wanted to get a WM phone so many times throughout the last few years but they were always behind in lots of aspects compared to the Symbian ones. Then HTC released its TyTNII with its holy specs, great design and somewhat compact size. This was my phone! Yeah, right! Then I found out about this huge issue with the video performance and followed it for about three monts waiting for a solution either from HTC or XDA. And OK - HTC had some problems with Qualcomm support for its stolen from Broadcomm chipsets whatever. So they announced Touch Diamond with a new chipset and "3D GPU" which "processor enhances the user interface". And then again it needs tweaks to make it - not better, but just usable. Then all the other bugs and flaws users say about in this forum.
Well damn you HTC, I'm about to leave the idea of having WM phone again. And that from a fan of yours that followed you back from the era of Qtek devices.
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I know it's a bit off topic, but how do you get the flag and the mobile carrier's logo to display on your posts?
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go to user CP
So wht is the verdict guys... is it worth buying it or wht i was planning on buying it but i heard a lot rumours tht is it really not worth it... cause the main problem is it is really slow!!!! even after applying the tweak to speed up the phone cause after tht it seems u'll need to soft reset a couple of time and even hard reset....
So the million dollar question is buy or not to buy???
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Did i say i was in the US? if you look up the right on my profile you will see a flag, if you put your mouse over it you will see what country im from.
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g day mate...hows it going down under!
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Yeah, but why the heck do we have to!? Can't HTC build a quality device that just works out of the box?! Then leave it to us mostly to customize it and somehow improve its usability!?
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Maybe a WM device just isn't for you. I wouldn't be happy if I wasn't constantly fiddling anyway, so it's better for me to get a device that needs improving than to get a device that works fine (because fiddling will break it).
Is there any way to configure automatic sms resend?
I've found that if the message is not send due to coverage conditions or simply by failure, then it stays that way until you manually resend it.
If windows mobile does not include this, then, is there any app that will help me out with this?
Thanks!
this is my problem too..
It's a great point. I would also love to see a fix for this. Nokia N95 and others work well by rescheduling unsent messages for 5 minutes later.
I've been searching for ages but haven't found a way to do this yet.
Would be really handy if this was possible.
Agreed, I'm used to this on every single phone I've had and was shocked when I discovered a whole folder full of unsent when I got this phone - particularly after insisting to people I had sent the messages!
So we all agree the diamonds signal is crap? lol
i have just got my diamond and not yet been to my place of work with it looks like i am going to get this problem as the signal is already crap
gary
One thing I have found with the diamond is that holding your hand over the ariel (the top rear of the phone) really does make a difference!
Hope this helps you a little
You guys should try and test out some different radios. Check the Radio thread in ROM Development.
I tried them all and .07 is best for me, but that might not be best for you depending on your carrier, etc. Some radios give better reception but might chew your battery more, I guess it's a tradeoff (maybe).
I think once you find the best one for you it will be all good. I think the Diamond reception is fine!! I don't really have any problems with it.
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You guys should try and test out some different radios. Check the Radio thread in ROM Development.
I tried them all and .07 is best for me, but that might not be best for you depending on your carrier, etc. Some radios give better reception but might chew your battery more, I guess it's a tradeoff (maybe).
I think once you find the best one for you it will be all good. I think the Diamond reception is fine!! I don't really have any problems with it.
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Actually you're quite right, I remember someone giving me that advice before, just too lazy to get round to doing it
I agree it would be nice to have the resend SMS feature, I've had a good look around, and it seems it's only solved with 3rd party products..
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I agree it would be nice to have the resend SMS feature, I've had a good look around, and it seems it's only solved with 3rd party products..
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what products solve this? i looked for apps for this issue but didnt come up with anything.
thanks
I would love to have such a program. even a 10 year old nokia phon has this very useful feature.
I have been messing around with GPS for the last 3weeks...got some problem at 1st but i think the problem is solved with htc GPS tools.im currently using .08 as i heard some good things about it.but then again some ppl have been advising me to use .05 and .07.im quite confused now.i try the 2 radio before but it was during the time im having issues with getting a fix,now im tempted to flash back to .05 or .07...any suggestion guys?
hi anyone???
Please refer to this thread
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Please refer to this thread
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yup i know there is a thread on radio but mine will focus on GPS performance bro
IMO 08 is the best for GPS.
I do agree : 1.25.00.08 for me too
.08 is certainly the fastest cold start. but i dont know if that makes it the best. i do use it tho.
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I do agree : 1.25.00.08 for me too
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+1
seems most accurate too (South UK)
how about anyone from asia?or even singapore?
i'm on 07 and i get a fix wthin 5-7 seconds with gpscycle 2
although at times gpscycle fails to get a fix, but that can be dealt with by soft resetting the fone....i think its some s/w problem....seems like the s/w cant get to open the com port
so far i have test .05,.07 and.08....05 seems the most accurate but fixing takes up to 1min sometime longer...
Radio v1.00.25.BS14 is supposed to be the best atm, reports of instant fixing, and spot on accuracy!
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Radio v1.00.25.BS14 is supposed to be the best atm, reports of instant fixing, and spot on accuracy!
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Yes please - where from? mine has 1.00.25.05, wouldn't mind trying some different ones.
EDIT: Sorry, found it, search *is* my friend
I confirm... I come from 2 whole months of 07 + 08, now I'm testing bs14 version from some days and it seems very impressive. Just some doubts about battery draining... let's see next days
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to be honest, if you use your phone more than a couple of times a day (like most people), then the battery is ****e no matter which radio! oooo and extra 10 mins!
i'm getting the 3000 mAh battery when its out at the end of the month...
over 3x the capacity
mugglesquop said:
to be honest, if you use your phone more than a couple of times a day (like most people), then the battery is ****e no matter which radio! oooo and extra 10 mins!
i'm getting the 3000 mAh battery when its out at the end of the month...
over 3x the capacity
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I have the 85,000 mAh battery, over 85* the capacity Okay well really I have it plugged into my cigar lighter
On a serious note tho', You say your GPS is no problem and the battery life is ****e, mine has reasonable battery life (although if I'm using GPS it's either plugged into the car or I'm using GPS Cycle Computer which turns off the backlight) and GPS isn't anything like as good as the Artemis?
This device seems much more variable in quality than my previous O2/HTC ones, even the camera quality varies - weeiiirrdd
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yeh, it depends on if you have a original HTC, a T-Mobile... etc etc...
i think a lot depends on ROMs/Radios as well.
Different radios work better/worse for differing regions and providors.....I am using 25.07 (and have tried a few!) as its best for Scotland.....would suggest that you follow what your regional collegues are using as a starting point, and then flash and change (very easy!!) for comparison
Of course then post back to share your results
the latest radio b14 from dutty is amazing!!!i get a fix from cold start in less than 15sec!!!Anyone else have good things to say about tis radio??
My out-of-the-box radio version is 1.02.25.19.
Is this any good? I'm getting fast fixes but lag after 5mins of use (feels like a memory problem with TT7 version 7.450 b9030). Igo8 is just always off by 20M (version 5400).
I can't use my phone for 5-10mins as it gets too hot. I am oblige to use speaker or ears phones as my face gets fried. The culprit seems to be a component on the left side of the sim card (transmiter?). The phone is working perfectly, no lockups so far. Currently using AZTOR X2 ULTIMATE.
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I can't use my phone for 5-10mins as it gets too hot. I am oblige to use speaker or ears phones as my face gets fried. The culprit seems to be a component on the left side of the sim card (transmiter?). The phone is working perfectly, no lockups so far. Currently using AZTOR X2 ULTIMATE.
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Try changing radio versions. You might have to try several different radios to see which one works best for you. This thread has plenty to try.
joe mboule said:
I can't use my phone for 5-10mins as it gets too hot. I am oblige to use speaker or ears phones as my face gets fried. The culprit seems to be a component on the left side of the sim card (transmiter?). The phone is working perfectly, no lockups so far. Currently using AZTOR X2 ULTIMATE.
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weird that, im using exactly the same rom, with the same issue.
mine gets real hot after 5 minutes of use
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Try changing radio versions. You might have to try several different radios to see which one works best for you. This thread has plenty to try.
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gizmolisa2006 said:
weird that, im using exactly the same rom, with the same issue.
mine gets real hot after 5 minutes of use
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It's definetely a good idea to try the different Radios. Make sure you do your testing in the same location as signal strength plays a role here.
If changing the Radio does do it. Which in few cases, like myself include, it did nothing a switched Roms as a test and that did it. Keep in mind, there may be other varialbes at play here but the big 2 are Radio and ROMs. Sometimes the chef recommends a radio for there rom but even then, the heat may still come. Keep trying different combo's.
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It's definetely a good idea to try the different Radios. Make sure you do your testing in the same location as signal strength plays a role here.
If changing the Radio does do it. Which in few cases, like myself include, it did nothing a switched Roms as a test and that did it. Keep in mind, there may be other varialbes at play here but the big 2 are Radio and ROMs. Sometimes the chef recommends a radio for there rom but even then, the heat may still come. Keep trying different combo's.
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okies, ive just swapped to shaks new rom, so il get back to ya after a play about with it
change Radio