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Hi there sorry if this is the wrong section, but I was hoping Pug would be able to tell me how to upgrade my ROM, etc because I'am still using the original.
Also could someone be so kind as to list a tap by tap guide to setting up my XDA IIi to connect to O2 Active, and Mobile Web, as I have a pay as you go SIM card in the XDA IIi?
Thanks alot peeps.

rmurph17 said:
Hi there sorry if this is the wrong section, but I was hoping Pug would be able to tell me how to upgrade my ROM, etc because I'am still using the original.
Also could someone be so kind as to list a tap by tap guide to setting up my XDA IIi to connect to O2 Active, and Mobile Web, as I have a pay as you go SIM card in the XDA IIi?
Thanks alot peeps.
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Hi, There is plenty in the Alpine sections about upgrading to the various ROM sections, just have a look or search. You will find the files here, ftp://xda:[email protected]/Uploads/Alpine/
You can see what PUG ROM version I use, which I have found to be very good.
Sometime ago I uploaded all the cab files for your Carrier Settings, just copy cab to XDA IIi and tap to run, after the cab has installed the settings, it will delete itself, so make sure you keep a copy for future use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=26463

rmurph17 said:
Hi there sorry if this is the wrong section, but I was hoping Pug would be able to tell me how to upgrade my ROM, etc because I'am still using the original.
Also could someone be so kind as to list a tap by tap guide to setting up my XDA IIi to connect to O2 Active, and Mobile Web, as I have a pay as you go SIM card in the XDA IIi?
Thanks alot peeps.
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The latest PUG upgrade is here, ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/Alpine/O2_Roms__Camera_Fixed_Pug
There are 2 files here, one has all the unneccessary 02 software outstripped and the other with all the 02 software included.
Once downloaded, extract to a folder on your desktop (or anywhere on your PC). Make sure your PDA is connected via the cradle and Activesync. Goto the folder you have extracted the files to on your PC, click to run MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe, just click OK, then you should see a message saying it is checking your Device, your devices screen should go blank (Although you will see some dark text including the word Serial on your PDA)
You should then get a screen saying what ROM version you have and the New version, press ok then a screen will pop up saying checking device, the common thing to happen here is it will stop in this screen, what 5 mins if it doesn't change then don't touch your PDA, CTRL-Alt-DEL on your PC keyboard to bring up Task Manager, select the Process Tab and look for the file name MaUpgradeUt_noID, highlight it with one click and then press End Process button, go back to the folder and run MaUpgradeUt_noID again follow the screen instructions again and then it will update this time, indicated by a install bar screen, it will take about 20mins to complete.
Once updated remove your PDA from its cradle and hold the Power Button down and at the same time press the softreset hole with your Stylus, this will Hard Reset (Factory Settings) your device, depending on the version you have installed follow instructions on the PDA, it will install some more files which take 5 to 10 mins to install. Thats it you device is now updated.
For your carrier settings goto http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=26463, there you will find the CAB files for your Phone Carrier (remember there is a file for PAYT and Contract for each Carrier, download the correct one for you), download the correct one for you and copy to your PDA, tap to run and your correct MMS/GPRS/WAP settings are then installed. Very Happy
**Please Note before you update your PDA. Please copy anything you want to keep on your PDA to your PC, don't worry about SD storage or the other Perminent Storage area as the update leaves these untouched. If you want to save your Contacts and or your Appointments and Tasks then goto Settings on your PDA select second Tab and then select Perminent Save, tick your selection and tap OK, then once you have carried out the update go back to Perminant Save and tick boxes you want restored and then tap OK, this function will dynamically keep your backup upto date, so you can use this anytime.
Phew, hope this helps.

I have tried all teh CAB files, and all the individual settings, to get full GPRS working on my O2 PAYT SIM.
After 2 emails to o2's technical department (which at least they answered within 24 hours) I was assured that the reason I couldnt connect is the APN whould be set to mobile.o2.co.uk - but that ONLY worked on contract plans.
They categorically stated that PAYT O2 ONLY features WAP GPRS, i.e. those small WAP-sites suited to mobile phones, and not the 'full deal' (ie web browsing, irc, MSN MEssenger etc)
...so, after a LONG time with O2 PAYT, I am now a Vodafone customer with a Vodafone PAYT SIM!
I can surf the web, join my irc channels, use MSN Messenger, the works, and they emailled me the correct settings the very same day I emailled them to ask for them too.
Joe Pinball
now a happy Vodafone GPRS internet user!

Hi,
just got an 2nd hand xda IIi earlier on today and seem somewhat shafted as i only have macs and no pcs, been looking arround for the last few hours to find some form of sync software which doesnt cost
can anyone tell me how to update the rom from a mac?
cheers

Ok,
so im guessing from spending hours searching the forums here last night unless im willing to buy pocketmac or missing sync there is nothing.
think i will use a virtual pc *sigh*
roll on the x86 mac hardware.

Mac OS is based on BSD. I believe there are scripts floating around here in perl that any decent *nix flavour should run. Perhaps some of these might be able to help you.

if you can run a Virtual PC with access to USB ports on the Mac, I'd reckon that would be the easiest (!) approach to adding Activesync for syncing files etc & installing any applications, as all of the pocket PC apps' installers are also windows-based.
Joe

had a long look for perl stuff and didnt find much so got virtual pc installed now. just got pugs rom on the xda and the speed has incresed (it doesn't feel as slugish anymore) wifi signal is a lot better, but i still seem to have BT issues, wonder if thats something to do with my headset though.. sounds like bad reception sometimes even though the phone is only in my coat pocket.

TuMa v1.1 - ALPHA - WM5 ROM - Wizard Ported to BA

Ok everyone, the next "incantation" of the TuMa ROM is now available!
This ROM is a radical expansion and departure from mamaich's original. I've replaced a number of elements which were OMAP code, with XScale code - taken from the Himalaya, Jasjar, and various ROMs I have had access to. I've also upgraded some applications, and put duplicates of different versions in as well (to determine which is better), and have added other various features, tools, and widgets.
The ROM requires a fair amount of testing now, and the only way I believe this can be done would be to let "everyone" at it and see how it goes. There is a LOT of untested functionality in the ROM, as I don't have access to a number of devices or configurations. So, feedback is definately needed!
There have been a LOT of changes in this ROM, and because of this I'd like to term this ROM as being an ALPHA version. If you have the will and the way, give it a go. I'm finding the performance even better (so far) - but it's only been an hour of testing, and in truth ... I've only managed to test very little of it. 8)
Considerations for this ROM:
All core elements of WM5 are now in the ROM. This includes the previously removed Pocket Powerpoint, Excel, and other files. So, all of the CAB files which I've created specifically for this ROM can be OPTIONALLY installed!
There are now 3 CABs by default in the EXTROM folder:
1). Midlet Manager
2). Arcsoft MMS Composer
3). IA Camera
This means that the ROM should be directly usable in devices without a Camera. If you have such a device, then make sure that you don't install the CAB file (just cancel it)!
If you do have a Camera, you MUST install the Camera AFTER the MMS Installation, as I've chained the two installations together. MMS will install without Camera, and then the Camera CAB will enable the Camera in MMS Composer.
One thing - localization is set to "New Zealand" (since that's where I am), so some of you will need to change this back to your region. (Sorry - it's my ROM after all )
The ROM is in /Uploads/Blue Angel/wm5_test/WM5 BA - TuMa v1.1.zip
Contents: nk.nbf, and the EXTROM folder with CAB files - so, update the operator and Flash away ...
Explore the features, test all of the elements, and let me know if everything is working properly.
All the best of luck with it!
*** D-OH! First Bug ... The "Contacts" SoftKey is wrong ... just open up the SoftKey Control Panel Applet and reset it ... works fine then. Sorry Guys. :-(

Is it possible to put a direct link to the file? I can't really find it...

I get a checksum error using BAUpgrade; MaUpgradeUt doesnt show any rom info. This is what i have always used to fix my roms previously
xda3nbftool -x nk.nbf nk.nba 0x20040521
xda3nbftool -sd PH20B -so O2___001 -sl WWE nk.nba
xda3nbftool -c -u NK.nba
xda3nbftool -x nk.nba nk.nbf 0x20040521
Anything wrong here?
Edit: I was in bootloader mode

Hello efjay, could you help me here? I can't really find the file to download

raymondu999 are you using an FTP client? Thats probably the best way to get it.
Edit: try this link ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/Blueangel/wm5_test/WM5 BA - TuMa v1.1.zip

No actually, I'm only going the ftp://xd[email protected] whatever thing...

Does it work for you? Or is it my computer that's acting funny and not letting me download it?
Actually, nevermind, efjay, it's working for me now. THANKS A LOT!!!! I owe you one!

No problem, pls post if you are able to flash ok. I seem to be stuck.

No problem, willdo. However, don't expect anything too soon... My internet is slow as hell, so I'll be downloading for a looooooooooooong time....

Hi All
First post so please be gentle LOL
Flashed rom ok but have doubled up on programs (exel x2 word x2 etc)? tried reflashing /hard reseting but with no luck this rom is faster than any other i have tried and some nice additions too...
will let ya all know how i get on
any ideas on the double programs would be most greatful
cheers for now
Nic
Oh thanks for all your time and work on these roms u guys are somthing else

nks said:
Flashed rom ok but have doubled up on programs (exel x2 word x2 etc)? tried reflashing /hard reseting but with no luck this rom is faster than any other i have tried and some nice additions too...
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Hmmm ... I had this as well when I was building this ROM myself. I think it's because some folders have been specified as "PermDir()", and the shortcuts are being kept.
For anyone experiencing the same problem try this:
(NOTE: This will require a HARD RESET & REBUILD)
1). Run "File Explorer" and goto "My Device"
2). Tap and Hold "My Documents", then select "Delete" and delete everything
3). Tap and Hold "Program Files", then select "Delete" and delete everything
4). goto "Windows"
5). Tap and Hold "Start Menu", then select "Delete" and delete everything
6). Tap and Hold "Startup", then select "Delete" and delete everything
Then HARD RESET your device, select "Format Storage", and "Clear Registry", and the duplicates should be gone.
I think I may have messed something up in the formatting specifications for the Flash Storage device ... i.e. it checks the existing format, and if it's still ok, it keeps all permament items around. This is probably BUG #2. *sigh*
Let me know how you get on ...
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Oh thanks for all your time and work on these roms u guys are somthing else
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Just hoping that this will solve my issues with the device, and be useful for other people too. 8)

Cheers Tuatara
Followed steps 1-6 and it looks ok now :lol: will do some more testing tomorrow with gps,phone,sms etc and let you know...
nearly 3am here in uk so time for bed
thanks again
Nic

Tuatara said:
For anyone experiencing the same problem try this:
(NOTE: This will require a HARD RESET & REBUILD)
1). Run "File Explorer" and goto "My Device"
2). Tap and Hold "My Documents", then select "Delete" and delete everything
3). Tap and Hold "Program Files", then select "Delete" and delete everything
4). goto "Windows"
5). Tap and Hold "Start Menu", then select "Delete" and delete everything
6). Tap and Hold "Startup", then select "Delete" and delete everything
Then HARD RESET your device, select "Format Storage", and "Clear Registry", and the duplicates should be gone.
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Installed the upgrade, did note the above problem. In step 2) and 5) files exist that prohibit the folder deletion, like PIE in step 5. Not sure why I get a different response than nks. Ended up deleting the duplicate entries in the Start Menu.
This version is much faster, great work.

rschell said:
1) Noticed the Double menu items, can delete some directories.
2) Noticed that the activesync connection does not remain connected. I have to disconnect and reconnect
3) Sound issues with WM Player playing off a SD card remain until the buffer is full (about 1 min into the song)
Will keeping probing for other issues.
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Thanks heaps for the feedback!
Right ... I think my reworking of the Flash Storage specification - while improving the performance, has had a few other 'odd' side effects. Probably the SD Card buffering/paging has been affected, and similarly resulting in the double menu items.
As for the ActiveSync disconnect issue - I did have that happen to me just now as well. Very strange though, I simply opened another "explorer" window, and everything came back immediately. Maybe I've changed the timeouts/timing for the usb driver too much.
One really BIG question though - since you're using a SX66, did everything work flawlessly for you with respect to the NON-Camera installation (i.e. just cancelling the CAB install?). Is MMS fully operational and everything else working?
I'll try to have a look into this sometime (very late) tonight after I get my "real" work done now.
Oh ... and on the "bad news" front ... I'm going to be away again for another 2 weeks now - this time in Germany, going to be exhibiting at Cebit - leaving Sunday. *sigh* a bit last minute and unexpected all this.
Hopefully though, I'll have time enough to do some patches or an upgrade to the ROM for anything which is found before that time. So keep testing and letting me know!

Hello Mr. T Great work by the way !!! it really works great, much faster and responsive!! you will be a saint for all us geeks !!!
I have my first bug to report! in hopes of furthering the development.
there is no support (at least for me) for MIDI as ring tone, it does not play. also I get the following error when trying to play in WM "The source filter for this file could not be loaded."
well just happy to report! cheers!!
Great Work!!

another thing, I really believe that the problem with WM5 for BA is the phone side of the ROM I really think that there is an incompatibility issue here. because when I use the device with Radio off, it works perfect! on every issue.

Tuatara said:
One really BIG question though - since you're using a SX66, did everything work flawlessly for you with respect to the NON-Camera installation (i.e. just cancelling the CAB install?). Is MMS fully operational and everything else working?
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I deleted the Camera CAB and modified the cfg.txt file before copying the files to the EXTROM directory and flashing, same effect as cancelling the CAB install. It installed without error. I tried installing the camera cab on an earlier version with no adverse effects on the SX66, but I prefer not to have it around in the PDA. I like the option to pick and choose what to install.
I'm not a user of MMS right now, so I can't tell there. Pocket MSN works. The activesync connection dropping out does have something to do internet access, connection stays active until an attempt to connect to the internet. MSN and FTP don't appear to use the activesync connection when it is available.
Wifi works, but I can't thru the portal at the hotel I'm at tonight, so I can't do a full test. Don't have my bluetooth adapter with me to check it.
Removed the screen rotate tool from the tray, I prefer the special button 9 on the keyboard for that function.

SysCrasher13 said:
I have my first bug to report! in hopes of furthering the development.
there is no support (at least for me) for MIDI as ring tone, it does not play. also I get the following error when trying to play in WM "The source filter for this file could not be loaded."
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Move the desired ringtone to the \windows\rings folder and it should work, it does for me.

rschell said:
Tuatara said:
... SX66 ... NON-Camera installation ...
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I deleted the Camera CAB and modified the cfg.txt file before copying the files to the EXTROM directory and flashing, same effect as cancelling the CAB install. It installed without error.
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That's great to hear ... and no slowdowns either I presume, which is very good news for SX66 users now.
rschell said:
I like the option to pick and choose what to install.
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Yeah ... I think a lot of people are like that - so having the choice to add MMS, Camera, or Midlets lets everyone decide to keep just what they want.
rschell said:
Pocket MSN works.
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Oh ... forgot to mention in my first post ... Pocket MSN was also updated to the latest version I could find/merge into the ROM.
rschell said:
Removed the screen rotate tool from the tray, I prefer the special button 9 on the keyboard for that function.
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NOTE: This is very easy to do for anyone else. All 'accessories' are simply loaded in the /Windows/Startup folder, so if you don't want something (like Cyberon Voice Dial, or Screen Rotate, or psShutXP, etc.) you can simply remove it from this directory, or disable it, and it'll no longer run. Similarly, all buttons are now configured as configurable buttons (not hard coded through registry, etc.) This way you can easily customize the device how you like it.
Remember, it's also not using any of your Storage memory for these 'extra' applications - so there's no cost in having or deleting them.
I'll check the board again in a little while ... must get back to work! I might be able to make a v1.1a later tonight, which will hopefully correct some of these initial problems which have been found. (If I find the time ... )

hello all ...
im not try this new ROM but 1 question... ist work to use BA as modem with this ROM ???
thanks in advanced...

Restoring app (QuickGPS) from Windows directory?

During the hunt for a fix for the hopeless GPS in the new 6.1 Rom, I stupidly uninstalled QuickGPS, and now - since I've found no other fix and it's patently something that HTC need to sort out - I'd like to reinstall it, in the dim hope it will be useful again some day.
Although there are various QuickGPS cab files floating around, none of the ones I've found are the peculiar 6.1 version (marked "Version 1.0" but copyright 2008, and with a higher build number starting 220.821). The only ones I've managed to download from anywhere are the original versions from 6.0 Roms, which - while they don't work any worse than the newer one - aren't any better either, and may well prove to have some other problem under 6.1. They must have changed it for a reason right?
Now it turns out, from reading up elsewhere, that my QuickGPS is still there on the device, sort of - if I set File Explorer to "show all files" and browse the \Windows folder, QuickGPS.exe is there, and it's the right version - I can even run it and download data. But it's no longer an installed program, so doesn't run automatically, and (since I deleted it's registry entries before) it's not setup properly there either.
Without a CAB to re-install it properly, is there any way I can persuade my phone to accept it back as an installed application, short of a hard reset? Or, does anyone perchance have it as a CAB?

I do not know why people are using the newest QuickGPS. THe only difference the program has is cosmetic. THe only purpose of QuickGPS is to have your phone read the GPS signal quick if you are using AGPS. Hence why it needs to connect to the internet to work.
True GPS signal is one from the GPS receiver built into the phone. First are you using AGPS??? Secondly if not, I do not see the reason for having it on your phone unless your using AGPS.

Ok, firstly, there is no "cosmetic" difference between the different builds of QuickGPS, so I'm kind of doubting your authority there straight from the off. The lack of any obvious difference is exactly what makes me think there probably is a more significant change under the hood. Secondly I was using the latest QuickGPS because that's what came with the latest 6.1 ROM update (which I'm also using). It wasn't some crazy whim of mine; HTC put it there, presumably for a reason.
You're confusing QuickGPS with A-GPS; in the context of the Tytn II they're two different things. QuickGPS is an app which downloads ephemeris data when online (during Activesync sessions etc) for use later offline. In theory, the GPS should be able to use this data later to speed up fixes, since it already has the empheris data and doesn't need to download this from the satellite. At the point at which you're out and about using the GPS, no internet connection is needed, because QuickGPS has already stored the data locally. This worked well (for me at least) on the old 6.0 ROM, but is sadly broken in the 6.1 update (and no, reverting to the original QuickGPS doesn't fix it - the problem is most likely in the radio).
A-GPS is different, it's using live data from the network to help triangulate position and speed up the fix - meaning a live connection is needed whenever you use GPS. It's only active if you have it switched on in the registry, and AFAIK only certain networks support it - on HTC branded devices it's always switched off by default.

Is there really no way to reinstall an app, when all the files are apparently just sitting there?

in the first place.....how did you install the app? did you lose the cab file that you used to install it?
secondly.......how did you uninstall it, but not manage to remove the file

The only answer i know will work for sure is a hard reset. (Not the answer you were after I'm sure).
After messing with various quickgps cabs trying to fix this problem i managed to stop my gps switching on at all. (Didn't go near the Windows Intermediate Driver settings).
The only positive is it gave me the opportunity to try a new 6.1 rom (Dutty's Diamond) and i'm really happy with the rom but sadly we still have the quickgps issue.
For a test i compared to a friends Artemis and after a Quickgps update his tomtom had all the sats in view within a few seconds. My posh Vario 3 didn't have anything.
pjam

XtreMe_G said:
in the first place.....how did you install the app? did you lose the cab file that you used to install it?
secondly.......how did you uninstall it, but not manage to remove the file
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QuickGPS gets installed automatically after a hard reset - it's in ROM as one of HTC's customisations. The surprising thing is that I was able to uninstall it, through the remove programs screen.
The files are still there because, apparently, they never left - they just got hidden. "Show all files" in explorer reveals them though. What isn't there is an installation cab - just the app files themselves, doing nothing.
That said, since I ran one of those files it now *is* doing something, happilly - after I messed with the options it re-established it's registry settings and is now running again as a service in the background, surviving soft resets. I manually recreated the shortcut in "programs" and basically all is well again, although since the option to uninstall hasn't returned it presumably still considers itself uninstalled somehow...

About the cosmetic difference I was referring to the QuickGPS in the newest DIamond Roms that are being ported over. I appologize for not reading your first post more clearly. Sorry about that

Accessing a local share via file manger..

I have a local file server accessble via wifi (or should be) its "\\server"
WHEN Wifi is on and connected and I put that in File Manager "\\server", it says cant connect, but if I put that in PIE it goes there.
Anyone have any ideas how I can get this to work? It used to work in WM6.0.

You should try Resco File Explorer; a LOT better for that purpose. I have been in a similar situation in mapping the drive and it works flawlessly. There's a 15 day trial to check it out; think you'll be pretty impressed.

Try "\\servername\sharename"...
try to access a particular share instead of getting the shares list by using the "\\servername" convention...
try something like "\\servername\sharename" and see what happens...
alternately, i highly recommend schap's rip of the HTC Network Plugin v1.0 Build 30468...it will make the steps of accessing commonly used local shares a whole lot easier by allowing you to map the drive into the "\Network" folder on your device...see 4th post in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=359458
enjoy!!!

I dont want to buy Resco, but it does work nicely.
\\servername\sharename fails as well and \\servername\sharename\ etc..
I will try the plugin and see. (Update) I instlled it and cant find it anywhere.. How do I "use" it?
Thanks!
ASCIIker said:
try to access a particular share instead of getting the shares list by using the "\\servername" convention...
try something like "\\servername\sharename" and see what happens...
alternately, i highly recommend schap's rip of the HTC Network Plugin v1.0 Build 30468...it will make the steps of accessing commonly used local shares a whole lot easier by allowing you to map the drive into the "\Network" folder on your device...see 4th post in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=359458
enjoy!!!
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Total Commander is free and does this well.
It also has a registry editor, text editor.
Did I mention it is free.

Another thing to check...
maybe your wifi connection is set up in "Internet" mode as opposed to "Work" mode...might explain why it works via PIE...
i think i remember experiencing total failures accessing local shares if my wifi connection was set up as "Internet"
on Settings->Connections->Wifi, edit the particular wifi connection you use and on the first page in the second combo box labeled "Connects to:", make sure the value is "Work"
give that a shot and let us know!!!

That was it!! Thanks! Odd setting really.
ASCIIker said:
maybe your wifi connection is set up in "Internet" mode as opposed to "Work" mode...might explain why it works via PIE...
i think i remember experiencing total failures accessing local shares if my wifi connection was set up as "Internet"
on Settings->Connections->Wifi, edit the particular wifi connection you use and on the first page in the second combo box labeled "Connects to:", make sure the value is "Work"
give that a shot and let us know!!!
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woohoo!!! i'm a noob WinMo user as of May 2008 with my Tytn2...coming from 5 years of using something from motorolla that was equivalent to a nokia 3310...totally basic PHONE in the truest sense...no color screen, no camera, big and clunky, pathetic interface...useful ONLY for voice and sms
but my point is that coming from decades of using Windows, somehow WinMo makes sense in a microsoft kind of way with all its occassionally cryptic features and inexplicable odd behaviors...i'm a geek and i'm lovin' it
before this thread is closed, the network plugin is HIGHLY RECOMMENDED...i used to use resco for mapping drives but found its behavior to be erratic when my wifi signal was weak...sometimes taking ages to try to open a share just before the wifi icon would show that the connection had dropped
network plugin, IMHO, seems to work a bit better...YMMV

dealwagon said:
...(Update) I instlled it and cant find it anywhere.. How do I "use" it?
Thanks!
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check in Settings->Connections->Network Plugin
while resco's network drive mapping configuration is accessible only from within resco (even though the shares resco mounts are accessible system-wide in any application whether resco is running or not), the network plugin gives a better "integrated" feeling with WinMo even though it is not much different from resco's capabilities

Got the HTC network plugin working. Now I have 2 ways to access the share.

GPSOneApp (powerful internal GPS configuration tool)

Hi! Check this out, it comes from the LG Incite.. explains a ton of the variables involved with the GPSOne chipset.. part of it is passworded, i'll dig the password out in a bit
This lets you tweak pretty much any variable involved with the GPSOne chipset internal to qualcomm msm7xxx devices.
Copy the .dll and .exe to the device in any folder you like, and run the .exe (it's hidden so make sure you have show all files on)
http://rapidshare.com/files/192175960/GPSOneApp.rar

Dood...YOU ARE THE MAN!
In helping people out in the threads on GPS issues, I was JUST THINKING I WISH I HAD THIS! I'm running tools from from other chipset vendors with so-so NMEA parsers and no access to binary or advanced chipset commands.
Installing...
*EDIT: This little app has a lot of potential. I'll need sometime to test and play with this.

Da_G said:
Hi! Check this out, it comes from the LG Incite.. explains a ton of the variables involved with the GPSOne chipset.. part of it is passworded, i'll dig the password out in a bit
This lets you tweak pretty much any variable involved with the GPSOne chipset internal to qualcomm msm7xxx devices.
Copy the .dll and .exe to the device in any folder you like, and run the .exe (it's hidden so make sure you have show all files on)
http://rapidshare.com/files/192175960/GPSOneApp.rar
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LOL I gotta try this...
EDIT:: Threw together a quick cab file to install this. It creates a shortcut in Start Menu\Programs\Tools

can't launch it (i yet know it is hidden, but i've made a custom shorcut pointing to the hidden .exe).
it gives an error:
the file gpsoneapp cannot be opened. either it is not signed with atrusted certificate or one of its components cannot be found. if the problem persists, try reinstallling or restoring the file.

Did you copy the .dll to the same folder as the .exe or in your system path? (\Windows)
Thanks for the .cab dharvey4651 Although it's not HTC soft so i duno about the \HTC folder..

fourcc said:
can't launch it (i yet know it is hidden, but i've made a custom shorcut pointing to the hidden .exe).
it gives an error:
the file gpsoneapp cannot be opened. either it is not signed with atrusted certificate or one of its components cannot be found. if the problem persists, try reinstallling or restoring the file.
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Try the cab file I posted right above your post.

Da_G said:
Did you copy the .dll to the same folder as the .exe or in your system path? (\Windows)
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yes i did. dll and hidden exe is in its own folder. Custom made shortcut is rechecked for a typo. but everything seems fine.
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...now trying the cab.
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cab works! don't know why but now it works

Da_G said:
Thanks for the .cab dharvey4651 Although it's not HTC soft so i duno about the \HTC folder..
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Yeah I didn't know who really made it so I just guessed. Ha oh well the cab file works. I tested it personally

Aside from the dll I included, all dependancies are on windows system files, so unless your system is missing something..?

with the cab, it works.
thanks to all

So now that we have established that I'm the man, let's get that password

lol
I won't have time to check that out for a while, i'm working on porting other drivers etc. from lg incite to raphael.. whee

I almost feel dumb for spending the time to look... I guess I just like doing things the hard way
The password is all 0's

Da_G said:
I almost feel dumb for spending the time to look... I guess I just like doing things the hard way
The password is all 0's
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what part needs password? I played a little this morning, I wonder if we can disable the static nav like w/the sirf tools. Or can this tool only read stuff? Any luck yet Da_G?

it definitely writes, it doesn't write directly to NVRAM though, only through IOCTL's.. nothing to disable the 'static nav' like behavior though, that'll be in NVRAM. Gotta find the memory address for it so we can use RegisterEditor.. or get access to the radio ROM..
The passworded part(s) are the system settings menus.. the first "user setting" menu is tied to the LG's gpsid (it stores the registry entries in a different part) so you can't toggle the menu options there and have them take effect.. but it at least explains what the options do and you can find the corresponding registry entries in HKLM\Software\HTC\SUPL AGPS.. but the system settings.. in particular UMTS PDE IP, port, url are persistant through a hard reset.. stored in MFG partition probably.. using this you can change the AGPS PDE server you're talking to.. i have good results with supl.nokia.com 66.35.236.25 port 7275..

Oh wow, this is a great little app. Thanks to Da_G and dharvey for getting this to us. I bet now we can get our GPS to funtion like its supposed to.

Da_G said:
using this you can change the AGPS PDE server you're talking to.. i have good results with nokia.supl.com 66.35.236.25 port 7275..
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What do you mean DA-G? that if we use these settings we will get a working AGPS service in our devices in any part of the world and with any operator?

I won't say that (as I cannot test to verify)
But you will certainly have a better chance, as supl.nokia.com is open to worldwide use, whereas the default AT&T servers may not be.
It might be placebo, but when I have gpsoneapp open a gps connection, with my system settings set to what i mentioned above, it seems to be using the assistance servers (as I get a sub-30 sec fix on cold start)
I don't see the same behavior with htc gps tool or any other gps program, so i'm tempted to think gpsoneapp issues an assistance IOCTL that kicks things into gear..
But again, i'm gonna call placebo effect on that until I do many more tests

Da_G said:
I won't say that (as I cannot test to verify)
But you will certainly have a better chance, as supl.nokia.com is open to worldwide use, whereas the default AT&T servers may not be.
It might be placebo, but when I have gpsoneapp open a gps connection, with my system settings set to what i mentioned above, it seems to be using the assistance servers (as I get a sub-30 sec fix on cold start)
I don't see the same behavior with htc gps tool or any other gps program, so i'm tempted to think gpsoneapp issues an assistance IOCTL that kicks things into gear..
But again, i'm gonna call placebo effect on that until I do many more tests
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I have to concur with this. Completely. I am a US T-Mobile Customer and I'm using an AT&T Fuze. When I got the phone nothing worked(data, GPS, etc...). Since then it seems I've gotten everything figured out. Data works with a simple registry change. GPS works AWESOME now. I can now lock from a cold start(right after a reset) in less than 20 seconds(a minute in my bedroom with no visibility) and I'm a very happy man.
I just want to say thanks to everyone here at XDA!!! Especially Da_G for this post here. I used nokia's servers just now and changed my AGPS connection to T-Mobile Data and now my GPS is super fast!
Thanks again!!!

dharvey4651 said:
...now my GPS is super fast!
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I'm also a USA T-Mobile customer (on an unbranded phone). Would you mind sharing what settings changes you made? I'd love to have the same GPS performance you're seeing.
If your changes are the same as what you put into the .cab you posted here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=478199
then I've done that, and thanks already. Non-technical types like myself definitely appreciate the hard work of yourself and everyone else here.