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D-Day !!

My shiny new Diamond arrived today. Awesome
D-Day has come early !!!

Ermmm congrats...let us know how you get on with it...im still thinking about whether to get one or not...the fact that the Sony Xperia X1 is soon going to be released is one reason why im holding out plus trying to flog my nokia N95 8GB phone is another...going to need to sell it in order to fund my purchase of the Diamond or X1.

im thinking of selling my iphone 2. i dont know, im undecided

Hi gaz_az
Where did you buy it ?? I'm curious...

It's in stock now at On The Go Solutions: http://www.htcphonestore.com/product.asp?itemMDL=HTC_DIAMOND
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calvin4000 said:
Hi gaz_az
Where did you buy it ?? I'm curious...
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Bought it from someone in the UK on ebay. PM me if you want a link !

i wait 2 weeks, dont want the asian version.

Hornet331 said:
i wait 2 weeks, dont want the asian version.
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Mine says WWE version , seems ok to me

Should come to Switzerland in a couple of weeks... wait and see, then...

got mine in Australia on the 30th of May for AU$1097. Now you can pick one up for about AU$700 now that's the way it goes though

timn2087 said:
got mine in Australia on the 30th of May for AU$1097. Now you can pick one up for about AU$700 now that's the way it goes though
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You went from the Flame to the Diamond? Wow, culture shock.
Hows' it been?
Kevin

UK Orange Tytn II 6.1 question

Hi everyone
I have the above as a works phone and cannot really SPL the thing. I have read all new ones are pre-loaded with 6.1?
Does anyone know when Orange plan on releasing a 6.1 update, or if a copy has got out into the wild, or if the new phones have been copied and if there is a some way I could update?
Many thanks for any comments from you techno gods out there....

htc has some website that you can look on to see if your company has a rom update. I'm from the states and htc hates us so we don't have that option. (unless we actually bought a kaiser and not a tilt) So I am not versed in the HTC website format.

orange not released an updated yet but you could use the latest HTC rom and put that on your phone but you will need to hard spl it first, i recommend 3.28 as im using it and everythings fine.
The rom is ruu_Kaiser_htc_wwe_3.28.405.0_radio_sign_28.83.40.02_1.65.16.25_ship.exe you can download from this site
if new to changing roms then you need to do a bit of re search on this site and also you'll need to load SSPL-KAIS first on your phone before the Kaiser-HardSPL3.28 and then finally the rom above. all available on this site somewhere.
At first it seems complicated but after 20 or so flashes its a dodle....

ChumleyEX said:
htc has some website that you can look on to see if your company has a rom update. I'm from the states and htc hates us so we don't have that option. (unless we actually bought a kaiser and not a tilt) So I am not versed in the HTC website format.
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intrested in finding this website.... t-mobile staff didn't seem to know anything about a 6.1 update when i recently e-mailed them.

T-mobile maybe releasing the update in July or August is the official response to be timed with the release of the Vario 4

Bump!
If the phones that currently ship are coming with 6.1 is it possible to lift the rom and put it on my phone?
Thanks for any info....

My Kaiser that arrived on Friday has 6.0 on it not 6.1
It's on the Three network

Don't know about 3, but orange are I believe. I heard they took the phone out of sale for two weeks to make the change?
Surely on this doyen of PDA knowledge, someone can give me an answer. Aren't there any orange staff reading this?

Orange are rubbish - why would they give a ****?

Im disappointed in Orange. They are supposed to be releasing 6.1, but it never seems to happen... They say keep an eye on the download site, but the rom never arrives!
I wish they would sort this out... I love the phone, but a bit fed up that the vibrator never stops sometimes when I get an email!
S

actually if you compare orange to at&t orange is the better provider
for instance i broke my universal (spv m5000) and they deliver the next day. on 15 quid admin cost wereas at&t charge extortionat prices for this
they have a better 3g coverage great customer service
the only reason im dissappointed is because they **** about with there roms thats why its take a while to get them out i rang orange about a week ago and they said 5 months
but at least if it dies you can get a fast delivery of a new one

I wish they would hurry up!!
Do you know if they ship new ones with 6.1, or still 6.0??
S

They are shipping new ones with 6.1. There are several people on differant forums reporting how much quicker their replacement phones are to their old 6.0.
Can the new rom be lifted and put on to a version 6.0 without spl. ANYBODY??
Orange might never release the damn thing. I ask you, if its OK for new phones why not release it?

had my tytn II now for a couple of weeks and can say its 6.1. afaik all tytns now shipped by orange should be flashed with 6.1 but be wary in dealerships as they may still be clearing old stock running on 6

Mine has a small fault... I was just going to ignore it, but if the Orange Care replacement will be 6.1, then I might report it after all...
Anyone had an Orange Care replacement of a 6.0 for a 6.1??
Thanks

captainsensible2002 said:
Orange are rubbish - why would they give a ****?
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Behave. You will get bad experiences with all networks, your infinitely superior network included.
As for 6.1, not in Orange stores yet. I work in Orange retail, theres certainly been no recall to update them. The website is listing them as out of stock when the retail allocation is still OK, so its possible the business website has pulled them to update them to 6.1 - even though on the spec sheet its still showing as ver 6.

hhmmm sound promising. the only ****er with replacing is the fact i have to keep the back cover which has started to deteriorate. and some of the clips have snapped of the back

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hhmmm sound promising. the only ****er with replacing is the fact i have to keep the back cover which has started to deteriorate. and some of the clips have snapped of the back
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Tell them the covers broken, you'll have to pay the admin fee regardless, a broken backdoor impedes normal function of the phone if say...the battery keeps falling out. Or something.
Generally though, handset replacements are refurbed kit which will obv be reflashed, so its feasible that it'll have 6.1 but I wouldnt hold out for it.

ill wait until the phone kicks it. at least the admins so low. atnt charge eq 200 quid for replacements and orange uk pay 15
lovin it

just had to have a replacement phone off orange care last week my replacement still as only got version 6 on it

uk orange diamond....i am suprised

got the phone yesterday
had spvs from orange from day one
and orange always messed with the phone with all there added crap...but
with the diamond, they have a little logo on the back.....and thats it
orange...thank you for not buggering up the U.K diamond!

Yes True No Orange related stuff in OS. It is direct from HTC.

Got mine also yesterday and very pleased they have not screwed anything up.
Like the case they have thrown in also.
Hey guy's have you had any probs with 3g or hsdpa with orange.
The fastest internet connection i get is only around 22kps ?

I only get 3G and with two bars . Looks like this needs Radio Upgrade or is it Orange Network Issue.

guys, i too got my phone yesterday and no branding, but this is only temporary; to only beat the iPhone to market. Give it a few weeks and the phone will have Orange branding.
Oh and i've also been told that Orange are now out of stock, so if you have ordered your going to get it, but new peeps, you have to wait for the next 'batch'; (possibly from Orange)

This is very interesting as my phone had no orange customization on either. BUT!
If you look through the handbook ( ON the CD )
Check out the themes and wallpaper shown there?
Also look through the programs that are listed there..
ORANGE downloads
ORANGE tv
ORANGE music.
None of these are on your phone.
Now i`ve spoken to orange on 4 occasions about this. I thought i was a one of and some how they had managed to forget to install said items. But like the man at orange said there should be at least an orange logo when starting up.
So now i`m confused. i`ve just got back from the post office as i`ve sent mine back.
Please can any body tell me if they have an orange diamond with the above items on.

irdawood said:
guys, i too got my phone yesterday and no branding, but this is only temporary; to only beat the iPhone to market. Give it a few weeks and the phone will have Orange branding.
Oh and i've also been told that Orange are now out of stock, so if you have ordered your going to get it, but new peeps, you have to wait for the next 'batch'; (possibly from Orange)
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How is it going to get Orange Branding later ?

Mmm spoke to Orange again after seeing the comments on here. Now they are telling me its a generic phone and comes with no orange customization on it. The lady said that the missing stuff could be activated with a pin number from the data and fax team!! This i doubt but who knows?

ukmdb said:
Got mine also yesterday and very pleased they have not screwed anything up.
Like the case they have thrown in also.
Hey guy's have you had any probs with 3g or hsdpa with orange.
The fastest internet connection i get is only around 22kps ?
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welcome to Orange!
Their HSDPA network is vastly inferior to the likes of, say T Mobile.
Just a shortcoming you are going to haveto live with until they improve things..

I Thought I Was Blind....
yes i was looking for orange tv...and nothing
can't belive they left MSN messenger on

you can access there tv and video section and others by going to http://orangeworld.co.uk from your mobile
Scroll down the page.

chand4u76 said:
How is it going to get Orange Branding later ?
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we all send them back so they can feck them up

Spoke to someone in an orange shop and they say theres are all branded with the orange menus etc!!

Hi all, i too got my Diamond yesterday. What ROM are you running ? I'm finding mine quite sluggish at the moment.
My ROM is 1.37.405.1 WWE ROM date 06/12/08
I tried to register the device on the HTC club but doesn't recognise the serial number. Anyone updated the ROM on an Orange Diamond yet ?

richhaywood said:
Hi all, i too got my Diamond yesterday. What ROM are you running ? I'm finding mine quite sluggish at the moment.
My ROM is 1.37.405.1 WWE ROM date 06/12/08
I tried to register the device on the HTC club but doesn't recognise the serial number. Anyone updated the ROM on an Orange Diamond yet ?
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Mine was a little sluggish until I updated it to the TLR 2 rom and not flies!

yeah the standard rom was slow but TLR is amazing!
but after reading this thread you'd think some of you guys actually wanted the Orange ROM!?

irdawood said:
yeah the standard rom was slow but TLR is amazing!
but after reading this thread you'd think some of you guys actually wanted the Orange ROM!?
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Yep, now I have the TLR ROM the performance is great. The phone now does everything I want it to and all without lag. Very happy.

What is TLR rom ?

Yodajr said:
What is TLR rom ?
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One of many
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=404626

i am still running the default rom and after doing the tweaks and installing the various config files all is running smooth, can you say if the difference in performance with the TLR rom is far superior?

ORANGE owners. Is Yours Orangised??

This is very interesting as my phone had no orange customization on either. BUT!
If you look through the handbook ( ON the CD )
Check out the themes and wallpaper shown there?
Also look through the programs that are listed there..
ORANGE downloads
ORANGE tv
ORANGE music.
None of these are on your phone.
Now i`ve spoken to orange on 4 occasions about this. I thought i was a one of and some how they had managed to forget to install said items. But like the man at orange said there should be at least an orange logo when starting up.
So now i`m confused. i`ve just got back from the post office as i`ve sent mine back.
Please can any body tell me if they have an orange diamond with the above items on.

I suspect Orange rushed it out ahead of the iphone 3g and probably didnt manage to get there customisations ready.

I only have the orange logo on the back. Nothing more but is that a great loss?

Mmm spoke to Orange again after seeing the comments on here. Now they are telling me its a generic phone and comes with no orange customization on it. The lady said that the missing stuff could be activated with a pin number from the data and fax team!! This i doubt but who knows?

Spoke to someone in an orange shop and they say theres are all branded with the orange menus etc!!

Mine was Orange packaging but that was it. The phone seems pretty much stock HTC

Mine too is orange-peeled, so to speak.
The interesting thing is that the pdf guide that comes with it, details all the orange customisation and programs. So Orange must be planning to put their stuff on it.
Mine was from phones4u if it helpls

I would advise those thinking about getting this phone on Orange to do so ASAP. Clearly it was supposed to be branded, but was rushed out to combat the iPhone launch.

Mine has no Orange branding except the logo on the back of the case. I'm not too worried though as I would only have had to get rid of all the branding!!

darthbane2k said:
I would advise those thinking about getting this phone on Orange to do so ASAP. Clearly it was supposed to be branded, but was rushed out to combat the iPhone launch.
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I'm hoping that they forget to brand the Touch Pro when they eventually release it. I'm really tempted by the Diamond but the lack of SD card expansion is putting me off.

Ever since Orange were constantly accused have having no handset selection they have released key models with no branding quickly and then followed up later. It's clearly a tactic to compete with the iPhone. What are the French handsets from Orange like?

Same here - no branding apart from the logo on the back cover.

johnboywilson said:
This is very interesting as my phone had no orange customization on either. BUT!
If you look through the handbook ( ON the CD )
Check out the themes and wallpaper shown there?
Also look through the programs that are listed there..
ORANGE downloads
ORANGE tv
ORANGE music.
None of these are on your phone.
Now i`ve spoken to orange on 4 occasions about this. I thought i was a one of and some how they had managed to forget to install said items. But like the man at orange said there should be at least an orange logo when starting up.
So now i`m confused. i`ve just got back from the post office as i`ve sent mine back.
Please can any body tell me if they have an orange diamond with the above items on.
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Stupid question, but why would you want Orange branding on it, other than to access Orange downloads, TV and Music (and these will ony be links to the various sites and would probably be easily obtainable from elsewhere)? As an Orange TyTN II owner I can tell you that their customization slows the phone down. The best thing I ever did was flash the stock HTC ROM to it.
I was toying with the idea of getting the Diamond, especially after reading the comments about it being unbranded except for the logo on the battery case, but the lack of SD card slot is a deal breaker for me, so I'm holding out for the Touch Pro, especially if they again release it unbranded.
Personally I think you might have made a mistake sending the phone back in order to get one with Orange Bloatware on it...

Teppic24 said:
Stupid question, but why would you want Orange branding on it, other than to access Orange downloads, TV and Music (and these will ony be links to the various sites and would probably be easily obtainable from elsewhere)? As an Orange TyTN II owner I can tell you that their customization slows the phone down. The best thing I ever did was flash the stock HTC ROM to it.
I was toying with the idea of getting the Diamond, especially after reading the comments about it being unbranded except for the logo on the battery case, but the lack of SD card slot is a deal breaker for me, so I'm holding out for the Touch Pro, especially if they again release it unbranded.
Personally I think you might have made a mistake sending the phone back in order to get one with Orange Bloatware on it...
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Mmmm me too i thought it was a fault but now looking at the posts i wish i`d have kept it.
Oh well i`ll see what my replacement one is like when i get it...

mine doesnt have any orange software on it either and thank god. orange software has always slowed the system down.
mine doesnt have the remote desktop mobile application that the manual detail - iv also seen a youtube vid showing it. anyone else got this?

No branding? Here's hoping mine doesn't have it either when it comes tomorrow.

Better not do any firmware updates by entering you Orange Serial Number too, as im sure those will be branded.
Stick to ROM updates from this forum.

TheBrit said:
No branding? Here's hoping mine doesn't have it either when it comes tomorrow.
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Would appreciate that you let the gang here know, considering yours is part of the second allocation of stock.

just spoke to Orange CS who said they are getting stock in today, i'll be ordering mine later so i'll let everyone know what it comes with (hope there's no bloatware on it!)

a fast "search" for "orange" could give you this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=407474&highlight=orange
and 2-3 more, orange related. please use search,
thank you for keeping it (the forum) clean of clutter!

Have Orange UK shelved the HTC Touch Diamond?

Hi All,
I got my Touch Diamond from Orange 2 weeks ago and a mate at work liked it so much he wanted one. His contract with orange was due for renewal yesterday so he asked for the touch diamond as a upgrade. They told him the Touch Diamond was not available has it has been shelved or put into quaratine were the words they used because of software issues.
I've just rung orange myself if its true and customer care could not answer the question or if it was getting recalled, nobody had heard about it in the call centre.
I told them HTC had released a new ROM for it but i could not download it because my phone was bought from orange and i must wait for the orange update. I asked if it would affect my warrenty if i downloaded the official HTC ROM update they said it may affect the 6 month orange warrenty but not the 12 month HTC warrenty you have.
Has anyone else heard if orange have shelved the phone?
Thanks,
Mick.

Its still on their web site!!

samsungq1 said:
Hi All,
I got my Touch Diamond from Orange 2 weeks ago and a mate at work liked it so much he wanted one. His contract with orange was due for renewal yesterday so he asked for the touch diamond as a upgrade. They told him the Touch Diamond was not available has it has been shelved or put into quaratine were the words they used because of software issues.
I've just rung orange myself if its true and customer care could not answer the question or if it was getting recalled, nobody had heard about it in the call centre.
I told them HTC had released a new ROM for it but i could not download it because my phone was bought from orange and i must wait for the orange update. I asked if it would affect my warrenty if i downloaded the official HTC ROM update they said it may affect the 6 month orange warrenty but not the 12 month HTC warrenty you have.
Has anyone else heard if orange have shelved the phone?
Thanks,
Mick.
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Sounds like the opeerative has mis-understood the situation to me.
They are having problems putting the Orange Bastardware on it. It sounds like it is this process that has been shelved, rather than the phone itself. Orange would love the phone to be branded to buggery, but as they can't they are having to release them with a stock HTC ROM on them. Get your friend to try again - if necessary speak speak to someone higher in authority.
Alternatively get him to upgrade via their website.
If the phone has been shelved then it shouldn't be available on their website, yet it is.

Thanks Teppic i'll tell him to try that.
I still don't know what ROM to try or if i should wait for orange ROM. If i tried one of the ROMS on this site and something went wrong with the phone in the future, would i still be able to put the original ROM back on?

A email from a friend that works for Orange retail, suggested that he has 30 for sale in his store.
With regards to Flashing back to orange ROM and SPL (this is possible) but in past experiance, if you have ornage care, then I would not bother... I returned many a Orange branded Nokia or HTC with no comeback