The following (long!) post was originally posted at the PointUI forum, but I thought it best to cross post it here. I've tried to organize it as best as I can and appreciate those with the patience to read it and the good will to offer help.
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My AT&T Tilt (HTC TyTN II) is basically out of commision right now, and I can only track the source of the problems back to the latest update of PointUI (v1.02b, Feb. 4th 2008), as I've done nothing else with the phone since. However, seeing as how I've uninstalled PointUI and the problems persist (and are getting worse), I suspect a virus is afoot, or some other lovely problem.
Since the update, I've experienced the same problems as everyone else on this PointUI thread (system hangs on "running apps" screen and randomly), but in addition to that, several other things. I am running the stock AT&T ROM without the bloatware. These have been my symptoms for the most part since then:
Periodically, animations between menus would slow down considerably and sometimes freeze for a moment, even when I had nothing else running in the background. This would happen for any menu: the cog, the bottom bar, favorites, etc.
The touchscreen would stop working (usually, only within PointUI). This usually happened when animations would slow down, but it would also occur alone, randomly. The hardware buttons would still work during touchscreen failure, usually, but sometimes they wouldn't, and I would have to soft reset.
Sometimes, the power button wouldn't work, and I would press it several times thinking I didn't do it hard enough the first few times. After ~20 seconds, the screen would turn itself off and on. When the screen was on, it would not responding to touches.
The PointUI top bar that appears when using any application would, at random, not work. By this I mean when I would tap it, it's like it wasn't even there -- the Start menu would come down, or the volume control, date/time, etc. depending on where I tapped it. Also, the top right button (red X, or the check mark) would not display correctly in programs or the today screen (a check mark when it should be an X, etc.), randomly, and would not be responsive.
Yesterday (Feb. 23rd), things took a turn for the worse. Here's what happened:
When I started up Tom Tom, the screen went completely non-responsive. Only buttons would work.
After exiting Tom Tom (in an attempt to restart it), the touchscreen would continue not to work, both in PointUI and regular old Windows.
Shortly following this, buttons would stop working, and the entire phone would freeze up. Couldn't turn the touchscreen on and off. I did a soft reset.
During startup, when it showed the AT&T logo, the screen dimmed itself to the lowest brightness setting (it never does this). It would remain this way all the way through the bootup process and into Windows as well, never getting any brighter. Even after going to the backlight settings and increasing the brightness, the screen would get brighter, but would never turn off.
Once in Windows, the touchscreen was completely non-responsive. Buttons would still work, but everything would move really slow.
The screen would never turn itself off. Also, when pressing buttons, the screen would never get any brighter.
After mashing the buttons a bit (in anger, yes, but lightly), the touchscreen alignment application came up, asking me to touch the screen in a few places. This worked.
Then, a call came in. The screen froze during the animation for the notification of an incoming call. Also, the phone started to ring, but within 1 second stopped. However, it would vibrate nonstop (my phone is setup to ring and vibrate at the same time) till the end of the earth!
At this point, none of the buttons would work, not even the power button. Did a soft reset.
This was followed by the same exact symptoms ~4 times (touch screen not working, never turning off and staying at the same brightness level, etc). Outgoing calls would work ok, but each time, a call would come in and freeze up my phone.
Eventually, after several resets, the touchscreen would work without having to mash the buttons to get the touchscreen alignment app running. However, it would still freeze on incoming calls (only).
Somewhere between all the resets, I realized that sliding out the keyboard would never switch the screen to landscape. I can still type and my text would show up on-screen, and screen taps still work properly (even touchflo), but all of this would occur while still in portrait mode.
Lastly, the power button would only work once. It can turn the screen off, but not back on, ever.
Somewhere, between the resets, I uninstalled PointUI, which did nothing. I also tried running Sprite Backup, which would never open (and still doesn't at time of writing)!
Before the PointUI update, none of these symptoms were present (earlier release was v1.01b, used since early January). After the update, they began creeping up, getting worse over time. I have installed nothing else since the update, and have only ever sync'd the phone with my computer to charge it.
Today (Feb. 24th), it started getting a little worse...
When I make calls, sometimes the microphone doesn't work at all. I can hear the person I'm calling, but they can't hear me.
Sometimes, the green phone button won't start the phone application.
Power button isn't turning off the screen anymore at all.
This is the current status of the phone. Weathered, battered and beaten, it marches on, still capable of opening the HTC Audio Manager and playing my MP3's in consolation.
Any help regarding the source of these issues is greatly appreciated.
Some additional notes/summary:
I am running the stock AT&T ROM without the bloatware.
I haven't dropped the phone or let it get wet.
I may hard reset sometime this coming week, probably Monday. The first thing I'll do is reinstall PointUI v1.02b, and maybe TomTom. We'll see how that goes.
You know, the more I read this post, the more it seems like a virus.
Man... just hard reset/flash a new rom and be done with it.
SH4YD33 said:
Man... just hard reset/flash a new rom and be done with it.
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I thought the above was the reason we DIDN'T have WM viruses?
Virus + Hard Reset = Problem solved?
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Man... just hard reset/flash a new rom and be done with it.
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I agree, at least that way you know if its hardware or software related and you stop fighting a losing battle
MM
tsadek said:
I thought the above was the reason we DIDN'T have WM viruses?
Virus + Hard Reset = Problem solved?
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That's why I haven't bothered with any of the anti-virus programs out there. Why bother having a constant drain on the system resources when you can do a hard reset, and restore all the cabs & hacks in under 30 minutes?
-Jay
Just an update here, my phone started acting up again ~5 days ago: freezing on incoming calls, not switching to landscape when sliding out the keyboard, never turning the screen off, etc. 3 days ago it got better, and I was able to run Sprite Backup and tried to restore the phone back to my pre-PointUI days. It had to reset, and on that same reset, Sprite didn't run -- the phone just booted into Windows, and all my problems came back.
Last night, I got a call that froze up my phone again. So I reset it, and by surprise, Sprite Backup ran and started restoring my phone. Now it's back to the way it was in January, and everything works perfectly! This backup was made before I ever installed PointUI.
Bottomline, no PointUI, no problem.
However, I should say that with v1.01b, I never experienced any of these issues. Because of my experience, I'm not giving any test versions a try, but I may install 1.03b, when it comes out. Definitely doing another backup before that too.
Thank you everyone.
Sounds to me more like a hardware issue, perhaps with your SD card.
I had the same issues you were havingh, but without ever having installed PointUi on my Kaiser.
I was using Dutty's Rom version 7 with radio 1.27.xx
only installed aps : TomTom and SPB brain training
So it would seem this is a WM or TomTom triggered issue....
My Kaiser just started doing this very same thing today. I'm running the standard AT&T WM6.1 ROM and have been successfully since December 07. I have a 6GB SD card with TomTom on it, also have had no issues until now. Today, the screen didn't switch into landscape upon sliding the keyboard out; the camera freezes and/or is unresponsive; power button doesn't work (on OR off; with or without SD card inserted); couldn't pick up a call earlier today; TomTom freezes when loading; WM player freezes while loading media.... I have not installed any apps on this thing since January. Seems to me like some memory corruption going on, possibly page file related.
I *did* notice that I had about 45MB worth of temp internet files cached and cleaned those up earlier today after these symptoms started. Didn't fix the problem though, but being low on main storage may have contributed to the corruption problem.
I had hoped I wouldn't need to hard reset my phone but here we go....
Hello guys!
I'm having some trouble with my HTC Touch Diamond. I am running the latest ROM, and the phone has worked perfectly since I've got it!
But one day it suddenly powered itself of during a phonecall and I was not able to power it on again. I removed the battery, put it in again, didn't work. Took out the battery and waited for almost 30 minutes, tried again and now it worked!
Since then the phone locks up in no systematical pattern (when I wake up in the morning it mybe locked itself, sometimes when I listen to the radio or typing an SMS..). Do you have any idea what the problem might be? Can't type in the serial number as I just have managed to turn it on.
What should be mentioned is the behavior when trying to start it. Either the phone gives no respons, or it "buzzez" and the display shows "touch diamond", but the rom version is not appearing down to the right. When it starts, it starts just as it should and no error messages is displayed.
I have not tried doing a hard reset yet, which I must say is considered the last option.
Have anyone experienced something like this? Or does anyone have a suggestion about what might be causing this?
Thanks on beforehand
Edit: have performed a hard reset now (did not format the 4gb). But the problem is not gone.. The phone just died while surfing. Now it locks at the green windows mobile-screen just before the homescreen loads (if it even boots at all...)
Please help anyone!
Happened this morning, I noticed that my diamond2 is not responding when pressing the power button as usual... black screen!
It wakes-up in two cases:
1. soft reset with the stylus.
2. removing the battery and putting it back then pressing the power button.
This happens after I leave it turned off for 5 minutes. It is working fine as long as I don't turn it off. When it is off 5 minutes then no response!
Note: I am using the latest htc rom.
Don't know if this is a software or hardware problem. Any help is much appreciated.
I have actually had a fairly similar problems with my TD2. Not regular and not at spercific times like after 5 minutes but there have been times when my screen doesn't want to turn back on, the device is still on because it still make some of the regular sounds, eg the ping on the home button but the screen is dead.
Like you it will only wake again after a battery out reset, sometimes after several attempts.
I'm pretty sure this is hardware related as like you i'm on an official rom. The first time this happened was after using the phone as a modem and it got quite hot so i think perhaps heat is loosening the connection to the screen, only a guess though so any other opinions welcome.
After trials for 8 hours, I figured out a work around.
I Forced the mobile to work in the GSM only band, from that moment, it is back to normal... 3G is important to me, but I think I will wait until the WinMobile 6.5 is out for our TD2... may be this will solve the issue!
Hard reset it at least once..... That may take care of the freezing issue.
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Hard reset it at least once..... That may take care of the freezing issue.
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did not solve the problem! could this be a network problem or the device's radio rom?
My phone did the same, i disabled the TouchFLO and it worked Fine
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My phone did the same, i disabled the TouchFLO and it worked Fine
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This one also did not solve the problem. Any other suggestions!
Problem solved
As I guessed, it was a network error and problem sovled after changing my Sim Card and getting a new updated one from the Service Provider!
Now my TD2 can sleep well and get back whenever called
6.5 is out, has been out for a while now for the TD2...What are you waiting for, might solve this issue...gogogo!
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6.5 is out, has been out for a while now for the TD2...What are you waiting for, might solve this issue...gogogo!
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I have the same problem and i notice that sleep everytime who i use Alarm(clock)...
Noticed that??????
Some times alarm clock sound doesn't work.... the audio level is high...
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6.5 is out, has been out for a while now for the TD2...What are you waiting for, might solve this issue...gogogo!
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I am afraid I have to bump the thread.. I received my device from the HTC service with a new 6.5 ROM installed, and I started having this problem. The deviced sleeps and does not react to pressing Power button, neither to pulling the stylus. The only way how to wake it is to remove the battery and switch it on again. Any idea how to solve this?
The same problem
cassper1 said:
I am afraid I have to bump the thread.. I received my device from the HTC service with a new 6.5 ROM installed, and I started having this problem. The deviced sleeps and does not react to pressing Power button, neither to pulling the stylus. The only way how to wake it is to remove the battery and switch it on again. Any idea how to solve this?
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My TD2 starts the same problem . After some standby time the power button stops working. I tryed to re-flash ROMs , Hard Reset, Change the battery, and nothing solve the problem. The Power Button not working! The only way is soft reset... Any idea?
This is referred to as the "Standby of Death"
The only fix I am aware of is to flash a custom ROM.
hello guys. there is no need to flash a new rom. i had same issue, but hard reset and backup restore helped me. try this on your phone. for back-up, use sk tools
http://www.s-k-tools.com/index.html?sktools/m_feat.html
Heya all,
So my Galaxy Mini started rebooting itself today.. Anybody knows what to do? I can't give much details only that I thought the problem could be the custom rom (CM7, New Experience). I flashed it back to stock, but it's still doing the same thing, sometimes it'll hold out for 30 minutes but sometimes it restarts and I can't even open Whatsapp before it reboots again.
All I can tell the on/off button for locking isn't always working as fast as it should. Could this button be stuck or something like that?
Also warranty is gone, got water damage from like 1.5 year ago.. Maybe that could still have something to do with it.
Thanks in advance,
Sanderth.
Update: I was just viewing a WhatsApp message and it rebooted itself again, please does somebody have any advice on how to fix this?
Bump: Please does anybody know what the problem could be? Today at school I wasn't even able to send a message via WhatsApp
Edit: I'm pretty sure it always happens a few seconds after I pressed the on/off button to lock. I just tried to lock it, got the prompt where you can enable airplane mode and turn the phone off and I clicked the back arrow, after ~5 secs it rebooted, could something be stuck behind this button or could my ROM be bugged?
Edit2: Well I disassembled my phone, probably something was stuck behind my button and fell out or something else was wrong with it.. But the most important thing is: It works like it should again, locking is going smooth now and it really feels as if my phone was better than before XD
Next time I'll open it first before opening a topic on xda, but well.. Hopefully somebody who will ever have the same problem will find this thread and fix it the same way I did
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Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda premium
Well to be honest, it'll stick to randomly rebooting itself once in a while, less than it was before disassembling and putting it back together again though (From 5 times in one hour to max. 3 on a day). But trying this could never mess something up (as long as you know what you are doing.) At least it's possible to use my phone normally again.
For the people that don't know how to disassemble, use this: http://www.formymobile.co.uk/s5570disassembly.php
Disassemble until you've got the battery compartment of, then just assemble again.
Hi there
I have a really annoying problem, that happens maybe 3-4 times a week.
Take the example that just happened today, I'll be using my phone writing through messenger, and then suddenly the flow function doesn't work in swiftkey, but I could still write messages and get responses.
Then when I hit the home button my screen goes black: *Don't know how to link to pictures on a new profile*
I can still pull down the notification bar, and pressing the recent apps let me see the title for the last app I used for a split second before it goes dark again.
I can even open my camera app, through the physical button, and when I returned it looked like this: *Can't post pictures*
I can always fix it by restarting my phone twice, the first time it doesn't register the sim card, and after the second time everything is working and back to normal.
I've considered factory resetting my phone to see if that would work, but I've so many apps and settings customized, that it would take a very long time to restore, and even then I'm not even sure it will fix it.
Could it maybe a hardware issue?
It happened on 5.0.2 and still occur after the 5.1.1 update
I really need your help guys.