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First I need to say that I really liked Touchflo3D a lot and I didn't stopped using it because it looks bad or may slow down the Diamond a little bit.
I stopped using it because it reminds me too much of the iPhone...unfortunately minus the iPhone usability.
After I went back to the "classic" stylus and thumb operation, my lost happiness using the Diamond returned back. I also enjoy to be able again to easily read all my appointments and tasks which was almost impossible with Touchflo3D.
Tochflo3D looks great, in my opinion better than the iPhone GUI, kudos to HTC for that.
Unfortunately it doesn't offer the same comfort and usability of the iPhone GUI, so it is useless to me. Once HTC succeeds in integrating WM6.1 into Touchflo3D(or vice versa), I may give it another try but right now, it is just a fancy but pretty much useless GUI which reminds me too much of the iPhone comfort and usability and which of course starts to annoy me once I realize that it doesn't work even close to how good the iPhone GUI works with touch operations.
So if you're annoyed by Touchflo3D but still use it because it looks so nice...STOP using it, you will be much more happy with your Diamond, believe me. Once Touchflo3D is gone, you don't compare it to the iPhone anymore, reminding you of the "good old" stylus/thumb operation days and how good the Diamond can be used that way compared to older devices.
Try it, you may love it.
Good call.
I have done the same and only really miss the cute SMS graphics...
HTC obviously CAN do good interfaces as the old TouchFlo was excellent, but this one just isn't quite there yet, and also feels somewhat fiddly compared to the iPhone.
In the meantime the TD runs much better without TF3D, and you can start realising its full potential. Also you are not tempted to use their somewhat flaky audio player etc and can start to look at other alternatives.
If you want gestures and nice graphics, try SPB Shell 2. Works very well and looks great.
Otherwise, try using the device as the WM6 phone it so obviously is, and start to enjoy it...
from the first i didnt like the Touchflo3D its buggy so i disable it and use the normal mode
Yeah, I do fully agree to that!
The "classic" windows mobile interface looks very well on the diamond,
and without TF3D it's fast as hell!
Spb mobile shell is the best interface.
Touch Flo 3d was slow and killed the diamond.
Have to agree with most of the posts in here, TF3D is nice but its such a resourcce hog that after almost a day of using the Diamond...the phone becomes so sluggish even with the tweaks enabled.
Im seriously considering going to the normal non tf3d screen as it doesnt eat as much memory/resources as the tf3d does.
Seriously just try leaving the phone for most of the day and u will see that from 50% it goes up to 70% and makes the phone very sluggish.
Saying that i do hope HTC fix it with a future rom update or perhaps one of the guys in here can do it becuase its a nice interface when it works.
Registry switch for toiuchflow3d?
Does anyone have the registry switch details for touchflow 3d? Thanks.
windows mobile is one ugly thing and the stylus...no thanks...
when i get the touch pro..tf3d it is.
pilib said:
Does anyone have the registry switch details for touchflow 3d? Thanks.
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What do you mean? It's a Today plugin, just disable it...
pedmond said:
What do you mean? It's a Today plugin, just disable it...
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well, disabling it doesnt give us more ram, does it?
i hope that new rom cookers can find us a solution to freed up the ram so that we can use it for other applications
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well, disabling it doesnt give us more ram, does it?
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What do you mean? Won't give us more RAM, indeed, but will free quite a bit of the existing one...
Note to self: stop using the "what do you mean" expression...
The elusive obvious!
Pardon my earlier stupid question re a registry switch for touchflo. It is of course, as pointed out, simply a today plugin, easily disabled by a t(h)ick!
Well, apparantly some people haven't heard of flashing your phone. My TD with TF3D is fast as hell with my new rom.
Hi
I also disabled Touchflo3D. Is there another possibility to access the weather-application from Touchflo3D? Or does anybody know a similar programm running with WM 6.1?
after you install spb mobile shell, how do you disable/remove touchflo? and make spb shell the default one etc
Settings-today-items:check SPB and remove the check from tf3D ..DONE!
Yzord said:
Well, apparantly some people haven't heard of flashing your phone. My TD with TF3D is fast as hell with my new rom.
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Which ROM are you using?
Using TLR now, and I really can't stop using TFLO3D.
It's damn fast here, and really, getting the everyday things done (read sms, read mail, launch a navigator, make a picture) TFLO3D is really, really good.
No buggs at all, and really fast. The first ones were a bit sluggish, but I can wipe my finger "left-right-left-right" in 1 second, and TFLO3d follows it perfectly.
In terms of usability for me, it gets at least 8 out of 10. There are some things I miss, like reordering my tabs and GETTING A DECENT CALENDAR but for the rest its great.
It brings back the simpleness of a mobile phone to the foreground, while still you have a suberb device at the background.
I quite like it too but I do miss the exact things you have just mentioned. I'm not looking for a replacement, but I do wonder can it be hacked so we can get more out of it? Or must we wait for HTC to listen to our cry for help. This is my first HTC device so I don't know, but from what I hear we should not be holding our breath. This surprised me, as I buy other HTC's for my staff at work, and HTC's reputation to me was exemplary, and they are the market leaders. Then I came here, and now I hear so much bad stuff about them.
Riel said:
Using TLR now, and I really can't stop using TFLO3D.
It's damn fast here, and really, getting the everyday things done (read sms, read mail, launch a navigator, make a picture) TFLO3D is really, really good.
No buggs at all, and really fast. The first ones were a bit sluggish, but I can wipe my finger "left-right-left-right" in 1 second, and TFLO3d follows it perfectly.
In terms of usability for me, it gets at least 8 out of 10. There are some things I miss, like reordering my tabs and GETTING A DECENT CALENDAR but for the rest its great.
It brings back the simpleness of a mobile phone to the foreground, while still you have a suberb device at the background.
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You never used an iPhone, did you?
I'm using the TLR ROM too but Touchflo3D is C.R.A.P..
I owned WM phones before(TyTN, TyTN II, i780, etc.) and I like Windows Mobile, version 6.1 is really a good step towards a finally very well working phone OS, I just can't wait to see WM7. Like I said before, Touchflo3D LOOKS great, much better than the iPhone GUI but operation SUCKS bigtime, not even close to iPhone. Don't forget that HTC started the whole "touch" series because of the iPhone, not because people really asked for it. That said, a comparison to the iPhone is mandatory and yes, I know, the display technology is completely different and WM6.1 lacks a proper finger touch operation API, right.
I removed Tochflo3D because I wanted to have an almost perfect "classic"(stylus, sometimes fingers) Windows Mobile phone, not a half-bread iPhone wannabee.
What can I say? I'm a happy camper now, especially since I can for example see five different calender events on the same page without having to touch the unit.
Regarding Touchflo3D improvements: I'm not sure we're going to see substantial improvements to the usability(speed isn't really the issue), unless some genius programmer finds a clever way to cope for the different display technology and missing "real" finger usage API of WM6.1. I also wish somebody here on xda-developers with brains and time on this hand could "integrate" WM6.1(icons, etc.) much more into Touchflo3D, so Touchflo3D doesn't look and feel sometimes like a simple GUI "cover" only.
I'm pretty sure that Windows Mobile 7 will be the answer to all our questions and hopes but til then...well...hello Touch Diamond II or whatever it's name will be.
Hi,
I've read a lot of pros to deactivate TF3D and install Mobile Shell because of the performance, and i was hoping to hear from people theirs pros and cons and i DON'T mean "i like TF3D bla bla" but an explanation too!!
I thinks it's a lot of storage to be used, or can it be installed on the internal memory?!
TF3D lasted about 20 minutes for me, it looks great but didnt really give me what I needed, when I needed it.
I found it dreadfully slow and fairly clumsy ...yes, I know you can tweak it to the N`th degree now, but still seems to be more cosmetic than funtional. Just a thin flash skin over WM6, and it resorts back to WM6 when you have to do more in depth things with the phone.
I guess I was biased towards SPB Mobile Shell though, as I`ve used it on my last 2 phones (Tytn and Tytn II) and love the way it simplifies and speeds up using the phones. It is not just an improvement over the TF3D but also Windows Mobile. Far more user friendly!! (finger friendly)
I have the latest version on my diamond and love the ability to thumb/finger scroll through the options/section just as well as the TF3D, it`s still layed out well, although I don`t like the way they`ve done the frequently used/favourite programs bits... I liked having the start square infact I prefer the layout of the previous version (9 squares rather than the 6 squares and the messy favourites bar at top.)
It doesnt look as lovely and unified as the TF3D but I realise that you can change the theme. It can look a bit garrish with the multicoloured icons .
The now (today) screen is far more useful on SPB as you can add/remove options.. still not as customisable as real today screen (I probably haven`t found all the plugins tho ?)
I would download the trial as see what you think.
I give TF3D a big thumbs down and SPB Mobile Shell a big thumbs up
Hope this all makes some sense / is of some use, as am slightly sloshed *h*i*c* !
Where have you installed the progam files? In the internal storage or RAM (i guess it's called?!))
I installed it on the phone rather than the internal storage, seemed to be plenty of space. Never normally install to the phone area but feel (rightly or wrongly) that it helps running from phone memory ?? Still loads of room and phone flies along. Doesnt seem to as big an issue as it once was.
hi bro,
being an experience user with spb shell, can you kindly share with us with some skins that you are using?
I have the latest version of SPB Shell (though not installed at the moment as just flashed with a new ROM.
I prefer the SPB Shell as it is alot smoother and faster switching between the menus and the main today screen can be configured to give alot more info than the TF3D one.
For those that like to know the weather it gives you a breakdown of what the weather is going to be like at various times of the day rather than just now (I can look out of the window for that) and even the 5 day forecast can be viewed to see the expected weather at various times of the day.
As for skins the default ones that come with it are only different colours but having a choice of colours from scratch is better than the plain TF3D.
SPB Shell is very configurable compaired to TF3D but still not as configurable as some other Today screens unless like th eother poster said it comes in the form of other plugins.
I have it installed to normal phone memory and everythings fine. I haven't tried installing it to the internal memory but figure if I have to reinstall it if I flash a new ROM anyway I may as well make sure that it's cleared for a fresh reinstall.
Deffo one to give a try if you want something other than TF3D - smoother, more configurable, more skin options, ability to add more plugins.
I have to agree that TF3D is not something that is usable. As a matter of fact, I am very close to labeling it as a piece of crap. All the bad points of TF3D has been posted in this forums countless times and I do not want to repeat it. I am sticking with TF3D is because of one reason only. That is because it's the Diamond's identity. If I were to use other today plugins I would not have gotten the Diamond. Diamond and TF3D is like coffee and sugar/milk (depending on how you like it). Without it, the Diamond loses it's identity.
How about battery usage? Any difference there?
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I have to agree that TF3D is not something that is usable. As a matter of fact, I am very close to labeling it as a piece of crap. All the bad points of TF3D has been posted in this forums countless times and I do not want to repeat it. I am sticking with TF3D is because of one reason only. That is because it's the Diamond's identity. If I were to use other today plugins I would not have gotten the Diamond. Diamond and TF3D is like coffee and sugar/milk (depending on how you like it). Without it, the Diamond loses it's identity.
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I agree with you. But where can TF3d Themes be found?
I have found two .theme files that works and easy to set up. O2 Blue and Orange Lite. But it would be nice to get something like the White Diamond
I think its better explained this way:
SPB can house many more functions. If you need your phones apps the whole day long an need to navigate your small system every minute, TF3D is really not the thing. SPB is very good, and takes care of every single corner on your phone. Highly skinnable, and fast.
I tried it, but you know, it's too much for me.
I like a lot of apps, but I don't use em every day. So I want to fast check Email, SMS, or weather, or make a call. For those basic functions I think TF3D is the best. Just grab phone, Thumb-thingy to the right tab and off you go.
I don't need something TF3D cant do. Well, some minor things, like agenda and tasks, but I guess that'll be fixed in a few weeks
I'll vote for the Shell too: I tried Flo, really tried as it looks so good, but found it was just unworkable!
Shell is clean and simple, and fast. Also, I use a P3600i in some situations (such as when I really want to hear incoming call rings) - using Shell keeps me to a common interface.
These are the setting that I use:
TABS Home TODAY Date
Time SPB Shell
Weather Owner
Dial Tab Messaging
Calendar
Fring
SPB Menu Internet IE/Opera + Favorites
No Data
Fring
Internet Sharing
Comm Mgr
Multimedia Media Player
Camera
Pictures
Voice recorder
Album
Tools Task Mgr
File Browser
Rotate
Lock
Profiles
SPB Backup
MemMaid
App to Date
Programmes (auto)
My Menu 1Calc
TomTom
Ozi
Stock Mgr
Best Crypto
FM Radio
Settings (auto)
I run TLR v3 - clean and stable.
Unrelated to SPB Mobile Shell, my final 'make it perfect' was to get rid of the ring delay by:
Diamond Phonepad skin: HKLM -> Security -> Phone -> Skin -> Enable (set 1 to 0), then reset
It all depends on what you do with your phone. I tried SPB Mobile Shell and it worked nicely. Quite happy with it. It's faster and more user friendly compared to TF3D. The homescreen also looks nice and it has a nice feature where you can move your finger in a downward movement from the taskbar to choose between the 3 pages of the shell. Although the Now screen is not very customizable (maybe it is with correct plugins?), the other page u can change every shortcut to programs and such. It's nice, but I don't tweak my Diamond anymore as I used to. I saw the Orange Theme with TF3D and I liked it alot. The analog clock looks great. If you're new with the Diamond and ur tweaking and changing and everything, I suggest you get SPB Shell (or just disable TF3D). But TF3D still looks better (orange theme that is)..
I just need to find a white .tsk theme for wm6.1.. All I see is grey/red/purple/whatever... Goodluck with this..
So, I've decided to reflash my Xperia after I played with some of the settings and managed to make the whole thing really slow, choppy and buggy. There's nothing wrong with the device, I've just messed things up a bit. Nothing to worry, I'm not a newbie with stuff like this, just a bit over-enthusiastic and overconfident at times.
So, to the point, I'm looking for better alternatives to the ROM and software I already have. I'll give you a quick run-down of the stuff I have, the stuff I love and the stuff I never use with my Xperia.
The stuff I have:
-SEX1 R3.61 Barebone ROM (and all the apps et al that came with it) with SEX1cons F v3
-SPB Mobile Shell 3.x (the newest one ATM with the Weather widget)
-G-Alarm
-Opera Mobile (newest Beta)
-Opera Mini
-Pocket Player
-Google Maps
-VistaHide Battery Gauge
-Some YouTube stuff I would use if they worked properly (which they don't, partially thanks to me)
The stuff I love:
-The SPB Mobile Shell above all else. If someone would make a ROM based on the Shell alone, I would flash my Xperia with it immediately. It's got the most conventional interface in any operating system I've ever come across. I just love it.
-G-Alarm. Never has waking up been so easy. (OK, it's still not easy, but at least I do get up nowadays. )
-The conversation-style SMS
-The both Opera browsers (when they work, which is less often than I'd like)
-The tweaked camera of the SEX1 ROM
-Google Maps. I've lost count how many times I would have lost without it.
-The "notes" function.
-Messenger
-The music and video playing capabilities of the device (regardless of programs. I use Pocket Player out of habit and WMP for video playback because the PP can't handle videos all that well)
-VistaHide Battery Gauge & the fancy SEX1cons
The stuff I never use and would like to get rid off or at least hide/disable somehow:
-All the GPS garbage. QuickGPS etc. I have no GPS devices and I'm not about to buy any. Google Maps is more than enough for me.
-E-Mail. I use E-Mail so seldom anyway, I haven't even bothered to set up an account on my Xperia.
-Panels. They were fun in the beginning, but nowadays I prefer apps to panels. I don't even remember when was the last time I pressed the "X Panel"-button on purpose. Not useless, but unnecessary to me as I never use them anyway.
So, the thing I'm asking is what would be the best choices for a new ROM and whether there's some software I should consider adding or replacing some of my old apps with? For me, a ROM is just something to install SPB Mobile Shell over, so there's no need for a fancy interface or loads of apps or anything. Just the bare essentials; a fast and stable ROM plus some of the basic apps (calculator et al I seldom use, but couldn't live without). I'm not a conservatist, so I'm not afraid to abandon any of the stuff I have for something better if there is.
Also, as I obviously have to backup my PIM data, do most of the backup apps out there function correctly with the conversation-style SMS messaging?
Give me a hand here, guys, I know your collective brainpower and knowledge far exceeds mine, that's why I asked you in the first place. Thanks in advance of any tips, suggestions etc. you could give me.
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Hey, if I wouldn't need the help I wouldn't have asked. It's a sign of respect, you know? That I trust in your knowledge? You don't need to answer to anything. Even small opinions and pieces of information are more than welcome.
I recently flashed my X1i, tbh it was piss easy, just install hardspl and copy the image to ur SD card!
I would suggest trying EnergyRom, or if u need Jack's 4.x full if u need asian language support
SPB Mobile shell 2.0 is was my favourite, but that was easily replaced by Touchflo3d!
The rest of the apps u listed u can easily install afterwards.
btw there's an entire forum section dedicated to X1 ROM's, so u're prob posting in the wrong place
As I told, I'm not a newbie with this stuff. It's pretty dang easy, it's just that as you guys've been here longer than I, you naturally know more about the different ROMs and software than I do. I'm not asking you how to flash or anything, I'm asking you which ROM would best suite my needs and whether or not I should replace some of the apps I've been using so far with something better.
I took a quick look at the EnergyRom and if the author knows his stuff (which it seems), it seems like a cool pile-o'-bytes. I'll take it into consideration.
The rest of the apps u listed u can easily install afterwards.
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Yup, I know. If you read my post through, I just asked you people for possible better alternatives for the apps I've been using so far. I know how to install stuff and anything.
btw there's an entire forum section dedicated to X1 ROM's, so u're prob posting in the wrong place
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I was thinking that, too, but then decided to post here as I'm not specifically talking about ROMs alone, but the whole device's software in general.
I agree with Mjollnir1983, jackleung's "Jack V4.x Lite" would most likely be a good choice for you. I also agree that Touch Flo 3D is better the SPB Mobile Shell, but that's your personal choice. If you wanted to try TF3D, "Jack V4.x Medium" would be a good combination of a clean rom and TF3D. I personally like agent_47's "Valkyrie v3.x FireStorm", because it is has TF3D and is a fast rom with some useful apps. However it may have to many apps for you. If you decide you like agent_47's roms, then "Xperio" might work out alright. It doesn't have TF3D, but still has some good HTC stuff that makes it look better and is a more clean rom than firestorm. Links are bellow. Also I thought I would mention that QuickGPS is something you might want to keep, because it helps Google Maps get a satellite lock quicker. It doesn't always work great, but their are some fixes if your having problems with it.
Jack V4.x Lite / Medium
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=543073
Valkyrie v3.x FireStorm / Xperio
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=512050
I tried the TouchFLO 3D on my friend's cell and it seemed okay after a short while of getting used to. Not that different from SPB Mobile Shell and no disadvantages whatsoever compared to it. I'll give it a shot. Thanks a million, guys.
Now, the biggest question is whether or not there's a PIM backup app available that works correctly with the conversation-style SMS. (At the moment every time I restore a backup, it only restores the messages I've sent, not received. It's the messaging app itself that is responsible, cos I've tried several backup apps.) Is there, or is it just the messaging app I've tried to tweak that is responsible?
About the other apps... Well, I'll do some research myself. I'll probably stick with at least some of them for a while.
Um... I don't know man, there are thousands of apps. I think ROMs are down to personal preference and you should just try many of them to find the best one for you. From the top of my head:
Pocket Music - best music player IMHO.
SkyFire - nice broswer for flash heavy sites.
HTC mp3 trimmer WVGA - perfect for making your own ringtones.
SKTools, advanced config and xperia tweak - best tune up software there is.
SPB Online - online games, radio and TV.
MyMobiler - lets you control the X1 from your PC.
Innobec Side Window - use the X1 as a secondary screen for your PC.
Resco Explorer and Photo Viewer.
SPB Weather
SPB Insight - RSS feeds.
HTorch - pocket flashlight.
WinMobileTorrent
Core Player - best player for every video file except mp4 (use WMP for that).
MS Reader - E-Book reader.
Skype mobile
MorphGear - perfecr emulator for every old game possible.
WK Task - best task manager/launcher/x button.
Homescreen ++ - lets you check your temp, cpu speed, ram usage and more, directly on your homescreen. You can havega taskbar launcher as well. This app is a must.
There are many more, but you have to be more specific about what you want.
Cheers
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The stuff I never use and would like to get rid off or at least hide/disable somehow:
-All the GPS garbage. QuickGPS etc. I have no GPS devices and I'm not about to buy any. Google Maps is more than enough for me.
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You have the internal GPS of the Xperia!!!
Google maps use A-GPS need data connection to work. The normal GPS is free (exception of software and maps).
@orelsi: Thanks, I'll take a look at those shortly.
kremlincrackers: The more you know...
Thanks a lot, I wasn't aware of that at all. That means I should keep the QuickGPS, then.
EDIT: I started flashing the Jack V4.x Medium ROM. Let's see what this thing's capable of...
What you're looking for is a similar version of what I have,
You could have any light/fast ROM, I prefer to use a tweaked ROM with cache and memory enhancements. At present I am using WM 6.5 but it's even more stable with 6.1
Then SPB Shell 3, as for applications adn in addition:
- Removed X Panels and remapped panel key to Resco Explorer.
- TOMTOM this is essential, if you wish not to spend money on it there are some free alternatives, although not as good.
- Resco Explorer and Registry editor
- SBP Television, Insight, Snapshot and Imageer.
- My Mobiler
- Finger Keyboard
- World Card Mobile
- Rhodium Dialer
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Okay, fellas, thanks for the help!
I tried the ROMs mentioned above, but finally settled for the awesome Touch X ULTIMATE X-TREME 10.1 Original Green which was suggested to me by a friend of mine. I can't praise it enough. I've used 8-12 ROMs (including big names like Valkyrie, Touch-IT and SEX1 R3) in the past and it's ultimately the fastest and most stable of them. As long as it keeps running as well as it is ATM, I seriously doubt I'll ever change the ROM again. The only tweaks I had to make were adding a Programs-tab to the TF3D and removing all the Panel Manager stuff while rebinding the panel key to Pocket Player.
Give it a shot, guys. You might fall in love just like I did.
http://www.wcxxperia-nce.com/index.php
Register, participate and enjoy the most stable bug-free winmo 6.5 in my opinion.
Clean and ready to customize at owner's discretion.
I still can't understand why you people use and like Manila? It's old UI already ~ 2 years old.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cmj-Rv-U-tw
just look at this video, look what you can do with SPB + 6.1 mobile + Xperia. It's 10 times for usefull than any Manila. It's faster, no bugs! No sleep death and etc! I was using Manila for 4 month, and after 2.5 LEO i understood that this idea of interface is dead ( HTC understood it too, that's why the created Sense UI on Android )
i still prefer plain 6.5 (titanium) without manila for it's functionality.
i use manila just to show other people that my x1 can still go further with regards
to customization and eye candy (an overused phrase by the way )
same goes for spb.
what i dont like is too much scrolling and too much flips before you get to touch the app you're actually looking for.
but to each his own
btw, how old is spb?
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i still prefer plain 6.5 (titanium) without manila for it's functionality.
i use manila just to show other people that my x1 can still go further with regards
to customization and eye candy (an overused phrase by the way )
same goes for spb.
what i dont like is too much scrolling and too much flips before you get to touch the app you're actually looking for.
but to each his own
btw, how old is spb?
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lol truth...
can you please share a guide how you got it set up like that please.
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can you please share a guide how you got it set up like that please.
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+1... please i want it too
just for eye-candy only i guess ...
Seems like trolling to me...
I use manila since I can see all the info I want at a glance and it's easy to get to the data and apps I want with a single slide or tap or hardware keypress (two for less used apps, three for least used, which is good organisation since it matches how we function in real life). There are shortcuts on Leo today screen and the interface is very intuitive. You don't have to "learn" where things are or spend hours setting it up... Enough reasons?
I guess if I wasn't flashing my device so often I may use something that takes time to set up, but is very customisable like SPB, but... I flash a LOT.
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+1... please i want it too
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Μe too... Just for change!!
Oobly said:
Seems like trolling to me...
I use manila since I can see all the info I want at a glance and it's easy to get to the data and apps I want with a single slide or tap or hardware keypress (two for less used apps, three for least used, which is good organisation since it matches how we function in real life). There are shortcuts on Leo today screen and the interface is very intuitive. You don't have to "learn" where things are or spend hours setting it up... Enough reasons?
I guess if I wasn't flashing my device so often I may use something that takes time to set up, but is very customisable like SPB, but... I flash a LOT.
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What he said.
In my opinion titanium is terrible, SPB shell looks very nice but ater 2 weeks i back to manilla.
Why?
In my opinion newset manilla aka HTC sense not only looks better but also is much more intuitive. HTC also prepared many soft within which SPB simply doesnt'have at all forcing to instal elternative ones.
As i have Diamond also it gives more reasons to use. Main is that only manilla audio manager works without problems with orginal HTC headphones.
I know that SPB shell is fast, manilla slow but despite of it manilla is more complex, easier to configure, more popular with much better XDA support.
Of course not everyone like it, so U can always change it for another ;-)
I don't understand the hype about Manila / Sense, also.
Well i looks nice, but thats all, imho it ist not very usefull for quick accessing Contacts, SMS or System Information.
I'm a great fan of PointUI Home2, which runs very smooth and offers a lot of the functionality i need.
Just my 2 cent.
I installed it but the only thing that changed, is the bottom bar... The clock??
vladimired said:
I still can't understand why you people use and like Manila? It's old UI already ~ 2 years old.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cmj-Rv-U-tw
just look at this video, look what you can do with SPB + 6.1 mobile + Xperia. It's 10 times for usefull than any Manila. It's faster, no bugs! No sleep death and etc! I was using Manila for 4 month, and after 2.5 LEO i understood that this idea of interface is dead ( HTC understood it too, that's why the created Sense UI on Android )
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what noob shot this video?
ever heard about macro mode?
this video only causes headache.
besides is there still the bug with the buttons' alignment of "sence ui" in landscape mode (you can't see that in the video!)?
ps: I don't like manila either.
besides, you can have sense with titanium as well (http://www.modaco.com/content/i9x0-...o-com/294091/wm6-5-skin-wqvga-titanium-sense/)!
AndiCP said:
what noob shot this video?
ever heard about macro mode?
this video only causes headache.
besides is there still the bug with the buttons' alignment of "sence ui" in landscape mode (you can't see that in the video!)?
ps: I don't like manila either.
besides, you can have sense with titanium as well (http://www.modaco.com/content/i9x0-...o-com/294091/wm6-5-skin-wqvga-titanium-sense/)!
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thanks and sorry that i made a video and didn't asked you, and sorry that i don't have a good camera. Sense on titanium can't compare anyhow with sense on SPB IMHO. Yes there is bug with button align but...i myself use landscape only wile typing and win mob sms app works in landscape - you knew that?
I use manilla because I can't buy Pointui 2 pro. I'm from Germany and don't have a mastercard, paypal or everything else. Thats the fact.
cemetry
I only use Leo for the twitter integration. I love my news on the go right there with no reason to open an app.
Coming to think of it, that is the only reason why I use Leo but lately im thinking about going back to the default xperia rom.
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I use manilla because I can't buy Pointui 2 pro. I'm from Germany and don't have a mastercard, paypal or everything else. Thats the fact.
cemetry
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i only use pointui home free 2.1.0.4 since it doesn't have this nasty activation screen every startup and imo it is good enough. i do not really miss any 'pro' features. if you have any questions do not hesitate to contact me.
Hello everyone,
I just bought a Omnia 2 and I'm planning to get an ultra-ultra-lite 6.5.5 ROM as I really don't like most of the Samsung stuff.
My intention is to get a "off the shelf" UI manager. I've been looking into PointUI and SPB Mobile Shell mainly. I also have seen Vito Winterface and some custom stuff like xda Touch Flo 3D.
Can someone provide a short review on those?
My concerns:
1) Don't get a laggy device because of the UI
2) Do not loose all the memory on the UI management.
3) Not to have a battery eater UI (read bad things about Spb MS)
4) Have a solution that handles not only the home screen but has additional managers for contacts, calendar, media, weather etc..
5) Have a nice applications panel, a home screen with weather, appointments and messages.
Any help is greatly appreciated!
I guess that the UI is a personal choice. I liked SPB MS very much, but unfortunately it is not a free app.
Thanks Junal... I agree and I don't mind to pay. My biggest concern is to use almost all the RAM only for the UI.
Unfortunately there is still 100MB from 256 reserver by samsung:/
Bu according to SPB Mobile Shell it is the best for me too
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Hello everyone,
I just bought a Omnia 2 and I'm planning to get an ultra-ultra-lite 6.5.5 ROM as I really don't like most of the Samsung stuff.
My intention is to get a "off the shelf" UI manager. I've been looking into PointUI and SPB Mobile Shell mainly. I also have seen Vito Winterface and some custom stuff like xda Touch Flo 3D.
Can someone provide a short review on those?
My concerns:
1) Don't get a laggy device because of the UI
2) Do not loose all the memory on the UI management.
3) Not to have a battery eater UI (read bad things about Spb MS)
4) Have a solution that handles not only the home screen but has additional managers for contacts, calendar, media, weather etc..
5) Have a nice applications panel, a home screen with weather, appointments and messages.
Any help is greatly appreciated!
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I have the same concerns regarding SPB shell..!! I used PointUI Demo version ( or the Lite version if you prefer..) and it was simply zippy.. The UI is good and the shell doesn't lag.. All in all, i would definitely recommend it over SPB as i found the UI and memory management better..!!..
In case you *don't* want any extra shell running on your WinMo ( and eating precious RAM ) , i prefer using Resco File Explorer and its Today plugin.. It is easy to use with minimum RAM/CPU needed.. And you can see the RAM, CPU,Battery and Storage space info from the Home screen.. Plus you can also add any number of shortcuts to the plugin to suit your needs.. I use it in conjuction with SPB weather ( which also uses a Today plugin..) and my phone stays zippy throughout the day.. Yet to see any lag due to it's use..!!
Attached a screenshot for the same..
Samsung Today...
I use Samsung Today, which is just a better all round experience than the rubbish TouchWiz widget thingy (in my opinion!). You need one of the newer ROM's though as it wasn't included in the last ROM release from Samsung... by last, I mean official release. Secany, over at MoDaCo has the latest JA5 available, which does include this - just check 'Samsung Today' in the 'Items on Today' option screen
PointUI w/Pointsens v2 for me.
Samsung today rules. It is not as fancy as SPB, but extremely useful and fast.
Used SPB Mobile Shell for several weeks. I admit, it looks good. I don't like the contact manager, it looks awfull. My main issue with it it slows down the Omnia a lot. It consumes a lot of MB's and lags your phone.
I now run Titanium. Put a nice looking, glossy black skin with nice icons on it. I also run PhonEx. Maybe it's not the very best contact system, but it adds a lot of functionality and eye candy. My phone is faster then ever. No issue with loosing memory or closing apps in the background. I enjoy my Omnia more then ever before. No freezes or any issue.
Curious? Try SPB MS for a while. It is a nice UI. But at some point I'm sure you will revert back to Titanium. At that point you will enjoy your Omnia as if it is new
WM 6.5 Rules
Hi everyone....
It's just funny but the best UI was always there! TITANIUM from WM 6.5!
Lightweight
Calendar / Messaging / Weather* / Contacts* / AppLauncher* Plugins
* Additional Plug ins from xda
Straightforward
For the first time Microsoft Mobile is going the right direction!
Maybe they hired some xda fellows?
You can try this ROM ie HD2 Sense UI
I not sure why no one has mentioed yet. Maybe I'm the only one who likes it. But I'm diggin iphonetoday 1.3. I don't use the today plugin. I have actually idsabled the Today, then assign the side button to luacnh the iphotoday exe. I have 80MB of ram on boot. about 76 Once iphonetoday is launched. With this my skyfire browsing experience became mch better as I can multitask
definitely the titanium... add panels and whatever to make it to your liking
JML Panex + JML today rules...
SPB
Only tried Samsung native and SPB MS and prefer MS. Cleaned it some to free around 47mb on bootup. Satisfied with features but would love more free RAM. Less lag than native UI.
Very open to try lighter UIs so i'll keep reading your inputs
47mb is very little. do u have other things booting as well? because i use PhoneEX and MS, and i can boot at 70mb even on stock rom (j6)
i tired pointUI like it very much. but too expensive =p
SPB Mobile Shell, albeit a little slow and paid
Samsung Today (new UI from JA5 ROM) is also excellent, free and customizable
OK.. I am confused with so many diff UI
1. Which is the best UI for Omnia i8000, I need one which is a eye candy and can help show off your OMLed display
2. I am planning to update my Omnia to WinMo 6.5 to get Titanium and TellMe Voice command.. is it worth..?
Titanium plugins are light and become really attractive.
Take a look.
And here are the links if anyone interested.
http://www.modaco.com/content/i8000-verizon-sch-i920-omnia-ii-http-i8000-modaco-com/301662/wm-6-5-titanium-gchris-titanium-skin-wvga-wqvga/
Another one!
Although when I first used Titanium I was not impressed now I love them.
They light, practical and beautiful.
http://www.modaco.com/content/i8000...ntable-skins-mods-plugins-for-omnia-ii-i8000/
I'm actually using SPB Shell around 64-70 MB free on start up, not that bad. Would like to start titanium but I tried everything and cannot get the interface to show -.-;