So I'm going to buy a Diamond. I have 2 options. One is Tri-band and the other is Quad, but it will cost me $200 more.
So if I'm not mistaken, the hardware is all the same so all I would need to do is flash it to unlock the 850?
Thanks.
Actually they are not the same. The European Diamond does not have the hardware for US 3G. If you need 850, go for the quad band.
the indian diamond is not 3G at all...it's got a different processor MSM7206A for 2G (the default diamond processor is 7201) with the same 528 mhz speed
except for that, all other hardware is identical to the others
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except for that, all other hardware is identical to the others
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That is 100% untrue. The DIAM100 does not have a WCDMA 850 radio in it, and the DIAM110 does. Aside from that, there are also other hardware differences among the different iterations.
oh ok, so not all diamonds are the same?
That's no good. Is it written in the back of the phone exactly which model of the diamond it is?
So which is the model where I can unlock the 3G?
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I read that the official release of the S730 for the US will be 3G quad band.
I have a S730 thats is only for 2100. Will be the implementation of the other frequencies be software or hardware based ?
If it's SW would it be possible for my phone to work in quad band ?
Any ideas ?
If they included the radio for the other frequencies than a software flash should make it work, but I doubt they put the radios in for our frequencies here. I would be interested in knowing as well, but we shall see as the time gets closer
This was linked in another post. So their choices are clear, hopefully they chose to use the chip that supports all the freqs; but I doubt it, since the model IDs are different: WING220 (the EU version we all have) and the WING200 (the North American model).
Now let's see someone get the TV out working.
Seriously, we will see if writing NV item 0148 can also fix this issue.
As many of you may have already noticed, many of the Diamond's spec sheets say that the device's radio is capable of operating in all bands. Official word is that the device is tri-band (America or Europe). Is this limitation based on the settings for the rom or radio.
In other words, is it try or quad physicaly? And if it is, is somebody going to release a cab to enable it?
Regards,
OB
The chipset is capable of using other bands, but there is no antenna for these other bands. I am about 80% sure that in that case calibration data for the other bands will be missing in the Radio, and those bands will therefore be disabled.
I am dreaming of getting the one which supports UMTS 850/1900/2100 bands.
Any news?
Nobody know it? So sad...
There is no such thing as a tri-band UMTS Diamond, all are just dual band. 850/1900 for the US Version, 850/2100 for the Australia version, and 900/2100 for the European version.
I thought I read somewhere that there is an Australian version of the Touch Diamond 120 (100 for Europe/Asia, 110 for NAM) that supports dual-band UMTS 850/2100, which should let 3G work on any continent. If someone actually has this model or can confirm, that would be great.
EDIT: Whoops, guess the guy above me posted a little faster Anyone know if an online retailer has the AUS model on sale?
Well it wouldn't work in any place that requires 900, it also wouldn't work on AT&T in certain 1900-only 3G zones. I don't know what market uses what frequency for AT&T, so I really couldn't tell you if your area will work with the 850/2100 Diamond or not.
Edit: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/HTC-Touch-Di...yZ161651QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Go to ebay.com.au and search... 650 AUD = 544 USD, for perspective
I'm assuming that's the Australian version... But PM every seller before buying to confirm
in my diam100 with italian official rom I have this:
is it normal?
Yessuh, all Diamonds have it, but it doesn't work. It doesn't reflect the hardware in the device at all, standard to all devices.
My understanding is that there are people who have the TP2 activated here in the US...
but 3g doesn't work since it uses a different band in EU
so...the million dollar question...
is this hardware or software issue and eventually fixable with a rom upgrade in the future?
thanks for your input
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My understanding is that there are people who have the TP2 activated here in the US...
but 3g doesn't work since it uses a different band in EU
so...the million dollar question...
is this hardware or software issue and eventually fixable with a rom upgrade in the future?
thanks for your input
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Since the hardware is very much like the Raphael hardware I would guess that the correct hardware needs to be in place for US 3G. I hope I am wrong since I have a euro version TP2 here in the states.
yeah...its looking like hardware...
It is a hardware thing. They are on different bands (Quad band and tri-band).
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It is a hardware thing. They are on different bands (Quad band and tri-band).
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I dont think it is even bands...my TP2 is quad band I believe and can not get 3G with AT&T.
Bands for my phone Quad Band 850/900/1800/1900
yah plenty of US ppl have them but the euro models only have 3g on 2100mhz (basically wifi???)
usa 3g is on different band...
the quad bands are for phone use (i think...but i'm a noob)
att 3g is 850.1900 tibble is 1700 and telstra is 850/1900
so if i understand it right...to gain 3g on different band besides 2100 (wifi/eu) you are looking at hardware
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but the euro models only have 3g on 2100mhz (basically wifi???)
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what does wifi have anything to do with this?
cmonex said:
what does wifi have anything to do with this?
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uh...lol...dont mind me
im just a nub
i should have said wcdma
astain hellbinger (im sure i mispelled that) has been home schooling me...
and he represents any knowlede i have tried to represent here...
forgive my crude interpretation
some of it is sticking though...lol
If you purchased a quadband unlocked TP2, you will never be able to get US 3G on it unless you can get the hardware modified (which in all likelihood, you can't).
If you have a TP2 with triband then it will either support AT&T (850/1900/2100) or T-mobile USA (850/1700/2100). A phone model will probably not come out that supports both T-mobile and AT&T 3G frequencies. This would require a quadband phone with (850/1700/1900/2100). A phone with all four of those frequencies has never been made.
EDGE will work on almost all carriers, world-wide, on a quadband phone EDGE will work on most carriers world-wide on a triband phone.
850 is mostly used for EDGE (both up and downlink). 1700/1900 are commonly used for uplink 3G. 2100 is commonly used for downlink 3G.
I hope that this clears things up.
As mentioned above, internal hardware is almost identical as the Raphael.
This thread gathered the most information for 3G Raphael in the US.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=420865&page=40
So probably hardware and no go although LTxda mentioned bricking his Raphael trying to get 3G working with Elite's team and cmonex, so maybe she as something to add !? =Þ
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If you purchased a quadband unlocked TP2, you will never be able to get US 3G on it unless you can get the hardware modified (which in all likelihood, you can't).
If you have a TP2 with triband then it will either support AT&T (850/1900/2100) or T-mobile USA (850/1700/2100). A phone model will probably not come out that supports both T-mobile and AT&T 3G frequencies. This would require a quadband phone with (850/1700/1900/2100). A phone with all four of those frequencies has never been made.
EDGE will work on almost all carriers, world-wide, on a quadband phone EDGE will work on most carriers world-wide on a triband phone.
850 is mostly used for EDGE (both up and downlink). 1700/1900 are commonly used for uplink 3G. 2100 is commonly used for downlink 3G.
I hope that this clears things up.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands
Hi!
I was looking foward to replace my X1a for a X2a.
My question: Is this a X2a or X2i?
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Smartpho...1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1265734518&sr=8-1
Cheers.
"Supports GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900"
I think the 850Mhz band support would mean it's X2a as only USA use that band as far as I know
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"Supports GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900"
I think the 850Mhz band support would mean it's X2a as only USA use that band as far as I know
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it could be an x2i as well. these are just the gsm-bands, which almost every phone supports. (it's called "quadband")
they differ in the supported 3g-bands: i-version = 900+2100, the a-version would support 1700 for 3g (and i think 900 as 3g as well).
another thing:
the X1a was somehow limited in video-recording compared to the X1i, the reason being some patent-restrictions in the US. i think it had something to do with limited video-framerate. but that's not stated either. (using the same qualcomm-cpu it should be the same for the X2)
so, you can't tell from the info on amazon. ask the shop to be sure?
Jolo_ said:
Hi!
I was looking foward to replace my X1a for a X2a.
My question: Is this a X2a or X2i?
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Smartpho...1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1265734518&sr=8-1
Cheers.
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I'm pretty sure the X2a has been released yet, so my guess is X2i. The bands are the gsm bands as mentioned above, so they don't tell you which it is. Additionally, like with the X1, I wouldn't be suprised if most just called the european version the X2, and only differentiated when actually mentioning the american "a" version.