Hi guys,
I have just bought my Tilt 8925. Everything is going fine except the Storage card, the PDA seems not able to read the storage card - Kingston 1G mircoSD.
I tried something like:
- Format the card with my PC and copy some file into the card but when I use File Explorer to find the card, nothing there.
- Check About: Expansion slot: In use
- Check Memory: Total storage card memory: Not installed.
What should I do to make the PDA recognize the card? Any help is much appreciated.
Hi there
Have you tried formatting the card with the PDA instead of the PC? I'm sure Windows Mobile has the setting somewhere (can't think off the top of my head!)
Or, could use 3rd party software like Pocket Mechanic to format it?
p.dixon0 said:
Hi there
Have you tried formatting the card with the PDA instead of the PC? I'm sure Windows Mobile has the setting somewhere (can't think off the top of my head!)
Or, could use 3rd party software like Pocket Mechanic to format it?
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I have used Pocket Mechanic but even this software can not find the storage card. I have also tried with a few other cards but the phone can not read either.
What should I do now?
I think you may have a bad storage card. Have you tried another one?
If you try another and it still fails to read the card then it is the Tilt, but try another card first.
Lagz0ne said:
I have used Pocket Mechanic but even this software can not find the storage card. I have also tried with a few other cards but the phone can not read either.
What should I do now?
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If you've tried other cards, then it seems like your phone has a hardware problem with the microSD slot. If you're still under the 1 year warranty, it should be covered.
Had a similar problem with my htc tytn ii (not tilt). Was a day away from booking it in for repairs when I downloaded the official WM6.1 rom. Flashed it and it worked.
Then it worked again. Hard reset didn't do the trick for me.
Thanks all guys
I have tried all solution that I could find from forum, google...But I have to convince myself that it is hardware problem.
I will flash another ROM as last hope.
I have the same problem for about 1month now.. It just stopped reading the mem card.. After a few days, I was able to see the card again in the device's file explorer, but after a few minutes it desappeared (lol)
I needed my tytnII, so I haven't send the device for repairs yet, but I will tomorrow..
I tried everything possible (tried to use other mem cards, flash offcial roms, cooked light roms, etc) but nothing worked.. And my mem card is read by other devices.. I'm also convinced it is a hardware prob..
Just be sure to revert to an official rom and revert the SPL as well, so you don't void the warranty.. You can find the instructions here
Cheers
Hi again
I know this doesn't really help but I had a similar problem with an SD card I bought for a digital camera a while ago (256MB card - biggest there was when I bought it )
I had bought 2 cameras and 2 cards (one for me, one for my dad). His memory card just refused to work in either of the cameras, but worked fine in my Nokia 6600 (told you it was a while ago!). Tried formatting with the PC, phone etc. but nothing worked - had to get a new SD card in the end to replace it
I'm having the same problem. Expansion slot says it's in use, but file explorer shows no card installed. Settings - Memory says no installation. Do you really think flashing a 6.1 rom might help?
nash_vegas said:
I'm having the same problem. Expansion slot says it's in use, but file explorer shows no card installed. Settings - Memory says no installation. Do you really think flashing a 6.1 rom might help?
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Who are you asking?
Does it not see other cards? Even after a hard reset? If you don't have 6.1 then I would say that you are behind the times.
ChumlyEX:
I've read plenty of posts saying that 6.0 is preferred for many situations, stability among them. I just moved to ppc and haven't flashed yet. Do you recommend a specific cooked version?
Very Similar Problem
Hey everyone, before anyone says anything, i researched this pretty good and havent seen an issue similar to mine and this thread is a bit old so i might start a new one.
My problem is that my at&t Tilt is only reading one of my microsd cards,
they are all sandisk, they range from 64mb, 128, 256, (3 different 1 gig) 2 gig and a 4gig sdhc
the tilt reads the 128 with no problems, the others, in About section it shows expansion slot in use, but under Memory it says not installed. does the same for all except the 128mb
i tried them on another tilt, they all work fine
i tried them on my htc wizard, they work fine (with the exception of the 4g sdhc) because wizard has no support for sdhc.
they are all formatted over and over, tried fat32, and fat16 using windows xp, also tried formatting using good old DOS
Scanned them for visruses, none found
I just got the phone so i dont knonw much about the history of the situation, however it had original ship rom, tried reflashing, upgrading to different at&t roms (3 total) tried custom roms.
anyway if anyone reads this and knows something it would be very helpful
Thanks
I had the same problem. My Tytn stopped seeing storage card. I tried another card, same problem. I've flashed the ROM, same problem again. So I guessed it's not the software problem, it is hardware. I gave my device to repair store and they realized that one pin from card reader slot was broken and unable to read card.
That happen because the card I bought was just a slight wider than it should be, it's card manufacturers problem. And when I was putting that card in the slot, it broken one of the pins. It's unable to see it through slot, you need to open device.
They needed to replace whole slot and that cost me about 250 Euros.
****ty thing..
p.s. If you planing to return your phone to repair store and you still got warranty, be sure that you put back original ROM, if you have flashed now. They will not approve you warranty if you have custom ROM
Feedback changed flex cable
ok so this is intressting, and as i was saying in my previous post, there was no problem with the cards (that im aware of) and they worked on my friends tilt, so after some convincing, i got him to agree to let me take his phone apart this morning and swap up the cables so i dont go and buy a flex cable and it turns out its not it. well i took em both apart (without braking anything!!) and i power it up, and guess what, it did the exact same thing!!!!
so a working flex cable did not solve the problem, i tried my cable in his phone, and it worked, read about 7 different micro sd cards!
unless its the motherboard of the phone, or it has to be some software that a hard reset or oem rom wont fix.
there has to be something, i just wish i could find it!
well yesterday i was drunk and dropped my tilt into a toilet full of piss. I took it out to dry, took battery out and shut it off... i forgot to take out my microsd card though.
My tilt is working somewhat fine but its still clearly water damaged. same problem with all of u.. my phoen wont read the microSD card now and i cant load up android which is bull****. so it must be a hardware problem imo
that sux to hear, well i dont belive mine got wet, not that i know of and no signs of water intrusion on the little white water detectors. I am still trying different sdhc drivers but nothing yet
I solved my problem with a new front board and main ribbon. Swapped them out and everything reads perfectly. I paid around $30 or so on ebay for the part.
nash_vegas said:
I solved my problem with a new front board and main ribbon. Swapped them out and everything reads perfectly. I paid around $30 or so on ebay for the part.
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lucky you!! i did that and it didn't change anything
i even swaped boards, sim card reader, lcd screen, but it has to be something in the main board, i still belive it's a software issue or firmware maybe, something still stuck on that board, i tried it all from hard resets to different roms, spls, radios, reverting back to ship rom, other official roms and nothing. expension slot shows in use, but no storage card with the exception of a couple of different small ones that will show in file explorer, i can install cabs from them but cant really copy anything from device to card or card to device this is so annoying. I even went out and bought a new micro sd and ended up returning it cuz it did the same thing
Final Update
well i was sure that it had something to do with the board of the phone or at least a software or registry issue that was causing this problem, after being 100% sure that it wasnt the flex cable or anything I was lucky to find a motherboard for $26.50 (with shipping) on ebay, so i didn't even hesitate, baught it, swaped the camera (it was the only thing missing) and everything works! i dont know what i'm gona do with the board, but i doubt that im gona give up on figuring out what caused this problem and how to fix it, and i will keep on checking this thread on regular basics
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hi,
my titl, suddenly stop to detect any Sd i put inside...
i tried everything, h.Reset, reflashing..but nothing worked..
I don't if HTC coul service my tilt, since i'm located in italy and my phone (unlocked) is AT-T branded...
any hint for the repair????
Um.. try putting your SD into a card reader. Go to radioshack. They are dirt cheap. If the reader can detect the card. Move all items to your desktop and reformat the SD card. Slowly start putting back all the stuff into the SD card. It may be a corruption in the card. Expect to pay around 5-10 dollars for a card reader.. dirt cheap.
I had the same thing happen to me. It was a specific brand and got corrupted. I bought a new (different brand) SD card and it worked great. matter of fact its been working great ever since.
(sorry not sure if i can mention brands)
i tried the micro Sd (i have 3 of them :1gb and 4gb from SXX Disk, 2gb from PXXK)and none worked.
inserted in my friend Tilt, they worked correctly.
..so i suppose 99% it's a tilt issue,how can i address it?
i supposse AT-t will never do some warranty on my device..
actually if you are still under warranty they will send you another one. It's a device defect.
alecxda said:
i tried the micro Sd (i have 3 of them :1gb and 4gb from SXX Disk, 2gb from PXXK)and none worked.
inserted in my friend Tilt, they worked correctly.
..so i suppose 99% it's a tilt issue,how can i address it?
i supposse AT-t will never do some warranty on my device..
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If thats the case, then Yes you may be under warranty. Explain your issue to them.
will be quite hard,since i'm not in the USa and i bought my phone off ebay...
the worst thing is that i need my tilt GPs function for tomorrow since i'll leave for holidays!!!
same problem
Hey I have the same exact problem! Did you ever find out how to fix it? If so please help!
One day my wizard decided to stop recognizing my 2gb Toshiba MiniSD card. I tried all the usual, formatting, etc... I even reflashed my wizard from TNT to Slim Edition, it still doesn't work (doesn't show up in file explorer, memory manager, nothing).
I'm confident this is not a hardware issue, the phone responds to the card being inserted/removed with the backlight.
Also, I have tried it with 2 other MiniSD cards (2gb Kingston and 16mb Kingston). All of these cards do work, recognized by both my laptop, other phone and digital camera.
Pls. help people! I need this to run TomTom
Thanks for any help!
RussianKid said:
One day my wizard decided to stop recognizing my 2gb Toshiba MiniSD card. I tried all the usual, formatting, etc... I even reflashed my wizard from TNT to Slim Edition, it still doesn't work (doesn't show up in file explorer, memory manager, nothing).
I'm confident this is not a hardware issue, the phone responds to the card being inserted/removed with the backlight.
Also, I have tried it with 2 other MiniSD cards (2gb Kingston and 16mb Kingston). All of these cards do work, recognized by both my laptop, other phone and digital camera.
Pls. help people! I need this to run TomTom
Thanks for any help!
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So are you saying that the toshiba card is recognized by other hardware? and is any other cards recognized by your phone?
amsatnetg said:
So are you saying that the toshiba card is recognized by other hardware? and is any other cards recognized by your phone?
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I believe he's saying all the cards are recognized by other hardware which obviously means that the problem is in the Wizard.
If warranty has expired i suggest dismantling the phone and clean all pieces carefully
EDIT:
found another post that might be of interest
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2157788&postcount=9
cheers
Just to clarify, yes all the cards are recognised by everything apart from phone.
Yes, the phone is indeed out of warranty, I'll disassemble it then.
Thanks
Any luck with this? I've just had the same issue, remember this thread and came for help. In the meantime, I removed my SD, shut down the wizard for a few seconds and turned on again with no SD card. I put the SD card in my reader and defragmented it in Windows and when I put it back in the phone, it was recognized. I don't know if it's anything of the above but my SD now works. Good luck
Still no luck. Took apart phone, ensured contacts were clean, tried everything.
Then I formatted/defragmented all of my test cards in every combination possible.
Still no luck, they're recognised by everything apart from phone
oh also, just remembered... Before the card went awry, I was having battery drainage, and amongst other things I tried, were some SD power management drivers... Could it be something to do with that? are there different drivers I could try?
RussianKid said:
oh also, just remembered... Before the card went awry, I was having battery drainage, and amongst other things I tried, were some SD power management drivers... Could it be something to do with that? are there different drivers I could try?
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Why not a Hard-reset? or a new ROM?
tried both (first post)... still no luck... i'm looking into smaller partitions, but no luck with finding a tool to do it...
Same Problem...
Any news? I'm having the same problem... using a AMPv.2 G4 Wizard. I notice that other people are having this issue with other pdas... but i found no deffinitive solution ... So, post your ideas and let's try everything that cam make it work!
Same problem
Hello guys,
I have same trouble with my Qtek A9100! The original SD Card 512MB that came with is broken, don't format, don't delete files and don't accept any new files... so i buy a 2GB kingston, brand new, but don't recognize at first time in a B.D 3.1, after install SD card high capacity it work's...
After some time, my phone become locked in that 3 colored screen, only way to solve my problem is a change for a new one.
Now it's in a original rom, brand new, but don't recognize 2GB SD Card and don't accept SD card high capacity installation.
i don't like to update my rom again, but could this be the only way?
(sorry! my english is a little bit rusted!)
Brazillian grettings!
Jason Storm
Hi guys, this happend today. My vario III suddenly can't find the memory card and my pc won't open it when I use card reader as well. All I can think of is I was using the card to transfer data between PCs yesterday several times and my PC won't read it at alst, but it worked ok with my Vario II(kaiser).
Help Please! How can I bring my card back??
Sorry, forget to mention that it a 8G Sandisk card.
I just posted the same problem and I also have a 8 GB from sandisk.
try to use the original SD card, see what happens..
My kaiser couldn't find it either..
I already contacted HTC customer service (an hour ago)
..
Edit:
I have a dutch T-Mobile MDA Vario with the original firmware.
Also a hard-reset doesnt help.
thanks a lot. I am waiting for your reply.
Hi
I had encountered similar problem before. My 8GB card was not detectable in my TytnII and shows empty in my laptop.
What I did is use the freeware program ""PC Inspector File Recovery" to recover all the loss files. What I believe is that the file table or something like that is corrupt but all files are still in card. DO NOT copy new files to the card if you intend to recover files from your card.
Thanks very much, I will give it a try now. keep finger crossed.
How does that happen? any ideas?
I have made a poll to see how many Kaisers have the same problem.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=390086
Cheap 8GB microSD cards usually are not true SDHC. They are a 4GB card reformatted to 8GB so the directory shows up that capacity but no data can be loaded to the extent of its capacity.
Buy another one, this time from a trusted seller and move on.
For the record, the card I got is original sandisk card.
Actually it happened once before for my 2GB sandisk card on hw6515. Am not sure if the corruption got anything to do with activesync as there there is no way to remove the sync other than directly unpluging the set from the laptop.
Unlike thumbdrive where we can select the option of removing thumbdrive.
svcglobal said:
Cheap 8GB microSD cards usually are not true SDHC. They are a 4GB card reformatted to 8GB so the directory shows up that capacity but no data can be loaded to the extent of its capacity.
Buy another one, this time from a trusted seller and move on.
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How do you explain that my Kaiser also didn't read the original SD card? What do you advise as being a 'trusted seller'? The Sd card was cheap indeed..
Ps http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=390086
Peran said:
How do you explain that my Kaiser also didn't read the original SD card? What do you advise as being a 'trusted seller'? The Sd card was cheap indeed..
Ps http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=390086
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I was not replying to you but for the member en0u222f that started the thread and he knows what is a trusted seller...
pdaPhone_TM said:
Hi
I had encountered similar problem before. My 8GB card was not detectable in my TytnII and shows empty in my laptop.
What I did is use the freeware program ""PC Inspector File Recovery" to recover all the loss files. What I believe is that the file table or something like that is corrupt but all files are still in card. DO NOT copy new files to the card if you intend to recover files from your card.
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Hi guys, I tried PC Inspector File Recovery and got the data I wanted back(there was 5~6 G on it but I only needed 2 M). My card come with N95 old version from O2 in UK, so I think it is a genuine branded sandisk card. After retrieving the data I tried to format my card and my PC allowed me to do that(it was impossible before I use PC Inspector), but after 5 mins it told me that windows can not format the card.
Anyway, I got the data back although the card is still dead.
Thanks a lot guys!
My 8G card would cost 50 pounds+ in the high street shops, don't understand why you guys say it's cheap....
en0u222f said:
My 8G card would cost 50 pounds+ in the high street shops, don't understand why you guys say it's cheap....
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Worst yet, you got a fake 8GB with the cost of a good one.
Why did you not try to get a replacement? High street shops will exchange it easily.
en0u222f said:
Hi guys, I tried PC Inspector File Recovery and got the data I wanted back(there was 5~6 G on it but I only needed 2 M). My card come with N95 old version from O2 in UK, so I think it is a genuine branded sandisk card. After retrieving the data I tried to format my card and my PC allowed me to do that(it was impossible before I use PC Inspector), but after 5 mins it told me that windows can not format the card.
Anyway, I got the data back although the card is still dead.
Thanks a lot guys!
My 8G card would cost 50 pounds+ in the high street shops, don't understand why you guys say it's cheap....
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Sorry, but as I mentioned before it came with N95 from a big phone company in UK called 'O2' . I don't think they will sell fake Micro SD cards.....
Have a card that is readable/writable/formattable on PC but does not even show up on the HTC. Any ideas?
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bumping thread because I am having the same issue. Few days ago my card slot died, tried many cards which all work on pc but dont come up on my tilt. I noticed theres a change in ram .03mb when I insert the card but if i go to storage memory in settings it will state not installed. Also inserting the card would bring the phone out of standby. I am guessing its a hardware issue and that theres a different switch or something that tells the phone that a card is in which is why it comes out of standby but the part that actually reads the card doesnt work, probably a loose wire or something. Can anyone post who has experience taking the kaiser apart, I am a hands on guy who wouldn't mind taking it apart to see what could be the problem.
p.s I also flashed roms/radios since this issue and that did not resolve it.
Wow. I'm also bumping because I have this same problem! Borys hit the nail on the head.
I've discovered the Kaiser is very intolerant of FAT filesystems with issues. I've had mine twice see the card, but no contents, even though it looked fine on my laptop.
I ran a filesystem check on it and both times it found some minor errors, and then it was fine.
No need for any special utilities, just run a disk check in Windows, fsck.vfat in Linux, etc..
khaytsus said:
I've discovered the Kaiser is very intolerant of FAT filesystems with issues. I've had mine twice see the card, but no contents, even though it looked fine on my laptop.
I ran a filesystem check on it and both times it found some minor errors, and then it was fine.
No need for any special utilities, just run a disk check in Windows, fsck.vfat in Linux, etc..
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Ah! Same here. I'm going to revive this thread since I'm having the same problem. I ran disk check, but it still wont work I'm trying to do a recovery for the files right now.
Something went wrong with my Tilt this weekend. The phone still works fine, but it won't read *any* memory card I put into it.
if I go to the Memory control panel, it shows no storage card.
However, if I go to the "About" control panel, it does properly show "expansion slot" in use or not in use as I insert or remove the memory cards.
I have reformatted one card, made no difference, run scandisk on the file systems on the cards, and all is fine. Tried a card from a friend's winmo phone and it doesnt work, and my card works fine in his phone.
Also tried re-flashing the rom (standard winMo 6.1) to no avail.
It definitely seems to be a hardware problem.
Any suggestions before I go out and buy a new phone?
And since I'm looking for a new phone, any suggestions where I can pick up a Tilt 2/Touch Pro 2 for a reasonable price (other than AT&T?)
Sorry to bring this dead post out again, but this weekend, I've had the same issue occur.
I have a 16GB Geniune Kingston SDHC, which has been used now since Xmas, with no problems!
Saturday night, I went to play some music off it, and Audio Manager reported no music, going into File Manager shows no SD Card.
So Sunday Morning, I checked the card in my PC, which is fine, copied the files off for safe measure, Formatted to Fat32, and reinserted the card > Nothing.
Tried another card (2 Gb Sandisk) also nothing.
Having used the above, I've only just gone into "About" and displays the Expansion slot as In Use.
Does anyone have any ideas? I can't live without my music!!!
Oh, and I have performed a Master Reset.
I'm using the Stock HTC Rom, which is wwe (should be in my sig).
i ended up ordering a new flex cable from a vendor on ebay - $22.
It is the cable that connects the display, to the lower half of the tilt, includes the nav button board, memory card board, etc.
Takes a bit of time to disassemble and install, but that solved the problem. The old cable was wearing out and breaking.
Damn. Shame I can't afford the cable, or have the confidence to do that to my phone!
Think I'd be best selling it as partially faulty now then...
Either that, or if someone's willing to repair it for me cheaply?
I'm about to start saving for a blackberry though, so may simply sell the HTC, which'll be a shame, as I love my phone.
My unbranded htc hd7 has been working perfectly for a couple of weeks now, but recently started to have problems. I switched it on after changing sim cards (which i believe i did perfectly, didnt drop or do anything wrong) and it then says..."storage card cannot be read", not allowing me to go any further. I then try to hard reset the phone, which gets the phone to start up with no problem, but now says it only has 12.5mb of storage available (my sd is 16GB, and is the same one issued with the phone).
I've already counted my losses with the stuff i had on it and i'm willing to format the SD card if it means fixing this issue. But Is there a way to fix this via bootloader or something else that will not void my warranty by me having to physically dissasemble it. Your input is very very much appreciated...
There is an option in Zune which lets you wipe all your data on the sd card:
Settings\Phone\Synchronization Options
Nah that didnt seem to work. When i click on erase, it erases the 12.5mb doesnt seem to find the sd card
Sounds like the SD card has become unseated or corrupt somehow
Let me know if you find a way of formatting the SD card without removing it.
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Markmutai said:
My unbranded htc hd7 has been working perfectly for a couple of weeks now, but recently started to have problems. I switched it on after changing sim cards (which i believe i did perfectly, didnt drop or do anything wrong) and it then says..."storage card cannot be read", not allowing me to go any further. I then try to hard reset the phone, which gets the phone to start up with no problem, but now says it only has 12.5mb of storage available (my sd is 16GB, and is the same one issued with the phone).
I've already counted my losses with the stuff i had on it and i'm willing to format the SD card if it means fixing this issue. But Is there a way to fix this via bootloader or something else that will not void my warranty by me having to physically dissasemble it. Your input is very very much appreciated...
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even im facing similar problem with an additional issue of sim error. i have gone ahead with replacing the sd card but still the problem exist.... i will be great full if any one in this forum could help me in fixing this issue......
Phone HTC HD7 - Tmobile
loomx said:
Sounds like the SD card has become unseated or corrupt somehow
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Thanks for your input.
I suspected the same thing, so i removed the back cover and the battery, then used a "caveman fixing tactic" of banging the bottom part of my phone with my hand (didnt want to damage it by hitting it with something harder and again didnt want to open it), and its working. Tried banging it again after that to see if it will stop working again but seems to be fine now.
I know this is just a minor (silly) fix and will go to htc to complain about this fault and see if its loose in there because i've never hit the phone hard before this (besides hitting on my hand of course, which is the first and last time i'm doing it) and nor have i ever dropped it. I still havent ruled out the possibility of a faulty sd card, or an error that seems to be appearing with others after the recent NoDo Update.
hd7 sd card issue
I have exactly same issue, the first time (from new) i turned on it did see the sd card and then i inserted a SIM and did a reset and now it just reports 12.5Mb memory always. I have opened it, voiding warranty to remove the 16gig sandisk card and re-insert it many times but still doesn't see it and yet never reports any error like 'cannot detect sd card'. Next i flashed from O2 to a unbranded ROM (from this forum) and still the same and now doesn't even detects the SIM! Next i tried a new 1gig sandisk card.. still does see it (not sure format is required for wp7).. the orignal 16gig card cannot be read or formated on a PC tried using a pc dos format, low level format, sd format programs but pc never assigns drive letter to it.. so hd7 is scrap unless someone can suggest something to resolve.. i suspect the SD card interface from phone is faulty.. gona try the banging on table method next and hope is smashes to bits put it out of its misery!
Had the same issue with my phone. now stuck in bootloader mode. now have given up and using lg optimus one.
Mine is doing the same thing only showing 12mb even with the stock sd card. Did anyone ever get this fixed?
What version of WP do you guys are on? I noticed after each update, the system seems to grab more space on the card. That said, there is a option in Zune settings to change the available storage via slider, may be you have got that set to 12gb somehow... May be try to change it and c what happens then. I personally don't have this problem, even after modifying my hd7 so I can swap sd cards as needed (hard reset required but kind of useful)
Sent from my HD7 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
I modded my hd7, too. But I never had this problem.
Did you mod with goldcard method or hspal/rspal???
the sdcard has password on it and can only be read through the phone unless you somehow did something to file system and lost the password than you can fix it.
Fix 12 MB
it fix my sd
enjoy your HD7
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