Making the Diamond work on the Verizon network - Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General

Hello everyone, as you can see this is my first post on xda-developers.com. The Diamond will also be my very first WM device. I found a great deal on the Diamond ($450 US for the phone without a contract with the upgraded 1350 battery), however it's currently for a carrier outside of the U.S. I currently have Verizon wireless, and I was hoping to be able to use this phone on their network. This phone is the CDMA version by the way.
So my question is: Is it possible to unlock the phone and flash it with a different ROM in order to get it to work on the VZW network?
I apologize if this seems like a silly question or if the info is somewhere else, I looked around a bit but couldn't find the info to answer my question about this particular phone. Thanks for taking the time to read this and I hope to have an answer soon!

Sorry for the bump, but I need an answer to this quickly and my thread was pushed off the front page. Is it currently possible to take the CDMA version of the Touch Diamond and get it to work on the Verizon network?

It will be possible but I you will have to wait for the Verizon version to launch before you can port another carriers Diamond over to Verizon as you will need a Verizon ROM.
The Verizon one will be crappy though so you will still want a Sprint or other CDMA carrier's version.
You then unlock it and install a Verizon ROM on it and you should be set.

Thank you very much for the reply! So basically I could go ahead and purchase the phone and just use it for a PDA for a little while, and then sign it up with VZW when the VZW ROM gets released?

Ya well, like I told my friend who I'm going to do the same thing for, I would wait until the Verizon one is released just in case something weird happens and you can't port. Then you aren't out the money. Wait until someone else does it first.
Up to you if you wanna take the risk. $450 is a pretty good deal.

That's true, being out $450 doesn't sound like a very good idea to me... I suppose I'll wait until I find out for sure if this is even possible.

Nevermind
Jeff

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Should I return my Diamond

Hi,
Just a quick one and looking for opinions.
Yesterday I managed to pickup a diamond from a shop. I was told it was direct purchase i.e. not sim locked to any provider. So I paid going retail price at 750 canadian for it. Get it home to discover the $#$#$ thing is linked to airtel and sim locked. I managed to get the network unlock code and it can now use my own sim card.
If I hard spl it I figure there should be no difference at this point between mine and the HTC released version.
Does anyone see any other reasons I should return this for a proper version that I requested.
Would you let it go and continue as above or return to the shop and rip the $#$#$ a new one.
I have to return home in a few days and need to make up my mind.
Thanks!
Well.. depends if you're a principals kind of guy. However, if unlocking it was a breeze and didn't cost u any real agony, why get yourself all worked up over it... Maybe you should send an e-mail to their headquarters if it's a big storechain...
Yes, I know what you mean. Perhaps what I meant to directly ask others if they see any technical reason this phone would now be any different then a standard unlocked version direct from HTC. I used a network unlock code from a specific website to do this.
If anyone sees a reason to be worked up ... i.e. the minute I flash a new ROM onto this it may not work because some providers ID is in there, then yes I will go back. But, if network unlocking provides the same benefit as just having a direct unlocked model then I dont really care and will just give him my email feedback.
thanks
Seeing as you paid Canadian dollars for it, I assume you are in Canada? If so, you might want to return it or at least keep the option open for the next week or so. It's looking like the official Canadian release version from Telus is going to have an extended battery and possibly more RAM. The word floating around is that it will be available first week or so of August.

Simple sim unlock question.

Hey everyone,
I've been searching on here and somehow I'm not finding ANY helpful info on how to unlock a G1 to work on AT&T. I want to buy one of craigslist and it seems most people aren't able to get customer service to unlock it for me.
Is there any way to unlock it, even if i need to flash the ADP1 firmware or something?
I really thought there would be a sticky for this, but so far all I've found is paid services.
I can borrow a friend's T-Mobile sim if i need one temporarily to access anything for the unlocking.
Thanks!
-Taylor
P.S. I'm hoping to buy one today, so the sooner someone answers my question the sooner i can get in on this new android love!
I believe as of now you have only one choice - buy unlock code on eBay or some other online shops.
get the phone and have a friend that has t-mo say that they are going out of the country and they need the unlock code for their phone. t-mo will ask for the IMEI and you give them that and they will email you an unlock code. but i am pretty sure that you will be stuck with edge network on at&t. not that i have any choice as t-mo STILL doesn't have 3G in stl
Hey, thanks for the help. I only have one friend with Tmobile and she probably could have helped me, but i was hoping there was a more guaranteed way, in case that didn't work. So flashing the ADP1 firmware and bootloader doesn't do it? I assume that the right people have looked at this and all that?
Well it would be cool if we could crack that, but lucky for me i finally found someone with an unlocked g1 at a great price - $250 for a barely used one with accessories and box, still with the original plastic on the screen, it's basically brand new! I was going to buy one that had been used for a few months, just had a charger, and was locked for the same price! I actually thought it might have been stolen till i met the kid, he was driving a brand new car and only looked to be about 18, so basically he was just rich and didn't care too much if he got the most he could get, heh.
So yeah, I have a G1 now and it's unlocked and works great. I of course don't get 3G on ATT but i had an old iphone before that didn't have 3G, so i'm at least not worse of. And somehow the G1 downloads pages much faster than the 2G iphone, interestingly enough, so I'm pretty happy.
Thanks for your help guys. is there a way we could maybe sticky this or something, maybe make a new post that is the official sim unlock thread and sticky that? I never found a place that specifically said you couldn't unlock it, except for a few posts from before the phone was even out with people speculating, so it was pretty tough for me to find out. Sure, i didn't find anything that said you COULD unlock it easily, but i didn't find a lot the other way either and i wasn't sure if I was just missing something.
Thanks,
-Taylor
I used this one to unlock my g1
http://www.unlock-tmobileg1.com/
within 20 min, I received my unlock codes. And it really worked
as t-mobile asked me 125 Euros for unlocking (the Netherlands)

Bell Tab unlocked to Rogers and phone?

I'll be doing more searching to be certain but since my Galaxy S is in for the 3rd repair and I'm sick of it there is a slight chance I can trade for a Tab. I have the Bell Galaxy unlocked running on Rogers so if I trade for a Tab it will be the Bell version.
So, is it reasonable to think that I can unlock it, flash it, and run a Rogers SIM and get 3G on it like I do the Galaxy? I can get 6+Mbs on the Galaxy. And can I get it to do phone duties? Of course this is only useful if I use a headset.
Any Bell Tab users running on Rogers around here?
Bell Tab user running on Telus. Same difference.
Just follow the unlock and flashing threads on the main forum for the AT&T version, it all applies to the Bell and Rogers tabs.
I have a Bell tab running on Sasktel but it is unlocked and could run on any north american provider. I also have the phone working. I found all the directions to do this on these forums.
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Thanks a lot. I wasn't sure if there are many versions like there are with the S which can cause trouble (A U.S. Vibrant rom an a Bell Vibrant == bad news).
There's only a slight chance I can get one but the shop has mentioned they'll discuss it since they know how bad the S corruption problem is.
So the bottom line is that there is little doubt that a Bell spec'd Tab (not yet sure if there are radio differences between the different offerings) can run full 3G speed on a Rogers network and can use standard voice? I have no doubt that VoIP is ok but if I can make it act like a bigger version of the Galaxy S then I'm good. I won't ask how to do it since I can research no problem. I just want to be prepared to tell the shop that yes I'll swap for a Tab.
3rdcoast said:
So the bottom line is that there is little doubt that a Bell spec'd Tab (not yet sure if there are radio differences between the different offerings) can run full 3G speed on a Rogers network and can use standard voice? I have no doubt that VoIP is ok but if I can make it act like a bigger version of the Galaxy S then I'm good. I won't ask how to do it since I can research no problem. I just want to be prepared to tell the shop that yes I'll swap for a Tab.
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No doubt whatsoever. None. Zilch. Nada.
It's a sure thing, a cinch, dead certain.
Follow the instructions for unlocking and the AT&T how-to-flash-voice in this forum.
You'll get full 3G on both bands, you'll be able to fall back on Roger's EDGE network if need be (great for saving battery life too), and you'll have world-wide GSM voice, via speakerphone, Bluetooth, or the included wired headset.
I want to know how you convinced them to swap the Galaxy S for a Tab. Mine is in repair right now and I'd love to do that
I didn't, it is just a possibility. Actually they brought it up after my successful campaign to convince them that I used the SGS as a tablet and is why I don't show up as a Bell customer. We're not supposed to be able to buy them without at least a PAYG plan but that was my other success when initially buying what is now my regret. You'd think that buying the full price no contract would allow that but the fine print says no. It took me 5 stores before I was able to outsell the salesman.
I'm pleased however with how nice people have been so far around here. I did see a brief spat over someone's claim to use their Tab as a primary phone. That's what I intend to do since voice is low usage for me but I'd still need voice at times. The Tab can stay tucked away and use a headset so I'm not too worried about the size. I'm old with fat fingers so the size is very useful for me.
I'm in the same boat. I've got the Captivate from Rogers, and I picked up the Tab from Bell. (Way cheaper from Bell buying it outright) I'm going to hack the phone into working and unlock it tonight.
Voice is the least used feature of my phone, but I still need to have it.
I've just got to figure out a way to carry it around easily come summer when the Jacket pockets go back into the closet.
Let us know how it goes. If I get the same defective hardware back from repair I'll be asking to trade for a Tab. So with you having a Bell Tab and making it work on Rogers with voice is something I want to hear about. Did you get one month PAYG SIM? It seems you have to activate it to get it at the best price.
3rdcoast said:
Let us know how it goes. If I get the same defective hardware back from repair I'll be asking to trade for a Tab. So with you having a Bell Tab and making it work on Rogers with voice is something I want to hear about. Did you get one month PAYG SIM? It seems you have to activate it to get it at the best price.
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I signed up for the Tablet Flex Plan, but then cancelled it. I'm going to be billed for an extra month, so I'll use it sparingly and just eat the cost...
I bought minbe from Future Shop out right without having to go month to month or anything. The Rogers one was $20 cheaper aswell when Buying out right. $629 on Rodgers vs. $649 on Bell. If you want to avoid having to pay for a month of service and another sim just get it from Best Buy or Future Shop. They also have open box ones for $609.
Hey guys got a tab today on rogers , does anyone now if canadian tabs have Media Hub? Cant find it anywhere?
Tetreaul said:
I have a Bell tab running on Sasktel but it is unlocked and could run on any north american provider. I also have the phone working. I found all the directions to do this on these forums.
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Will it also work on t-mobile 3g?
I am new to android devices, and I have a few questions:
#1. I got a tab with bell as the carrier.
#2. The bluetooth does not pick up headset or handsfree profile devices at all
I want to use a headset with this device
If I do the flashing and install new roms, will I be able to get the bluetooth to work?
Has anyone else had this problem and resolved it satisfactorally?
Rogers Stock Rom
Rogers tab stuck at samsung logo. I need to reflash to Rogers FW. Anyone has it ?
Thanks
Sorry for resurrecting an old thread, but could someone please let me know if there have been any changes to the flashing procedure?
I am a new owner of a Bell Canada Galaxy tab, and would love to have it unlocked, in order to use it freely...
Someone here noted that their Tab was already unlocked when bought - how would I go about to verify if mine is locked or not?
Thank you and sorry if my questions are too "noob"-ish...
AnitaPeterson said:
Sorry for resurrecting an old thread, but could someone please let me know if there have been any changes to the flashing procedure?
I am a new owner of a Bell Canada Galaxy tab, and would love to have it unlocked, in order to use it freely...
Someone here noted that their Tab was already unlocked when bought - how would I go about to verify if mine is locked or not?
Thank you and sorry if my questions are too "noob"-ish...
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Easiest way is to stick another carriers sim in the slot and see if you get signal. I unlocked my Bell Tab and use it on Telus as my main device (phone and all).
I used this for unlock. Then just follow the guide for the Overcome GB flash and you'll be set.
AnitaPeterson said:
Sorry for resurrecting an old thread, but could someone please let me know if there have been any changes to the flashing procedure?
I am a new owner of a Bell Canada Galaxy tab, and would love to have it unlocked, in order to use it freely...
Someone here noted that their Tab was already unlocked when bought - how would I go about to verify if mine is locked or not?
Thank you and sorry if my questions are too "noob"-ish...
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If you have phone capabilities you can go to the dial pad and type
*#7465625#
check the first value network lock and that will tell you if it's unlocked or not.
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[Q] Simple n00b Question About ROMs

I'm definitely a noob here, but I've been lurking for over a year, researching, and finally made an account.
I'm stuck with AT&T for awhile. Like most other sensible people on the planet, I want a Droid 3. I thought all hope was lost until I just recently heard that someone finally cracked (rooted) the thing and there are already several custom ROMs out, to my understanding..? Like the Steel Droid ROM at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1278056
Does the Steel ROM allow a Droid 3 to work on AT&T networks?
I also read that Negri Electronics is selling custom Droid 3's that work on AT&T's 3G networks, but it's $600.
Is there any hope of getting a D3 with AT&T, or do I have to stick with my beat-up (but still functional) old Tilt 2?
And Yes I searched, but the Droid 3 Root thing is so new there's not much info on it yet.
I have heard of people successfully using a D3 on AT&T, I think you need to unlock the SIM for US networks somehow. Loading a rom like Steel Droid won't make any changes that will allow you to use it on AT&T though.
Androidsims said:
I have heard of people successfully using a D3 on AT&T, I think you need to unlock the SIM for US networks somehow. Loading a rom like Steel Droid won't make any changes that will allow you to use it on AT&T though.
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Hrm... Crap. So currently the only way to get one for AT&T is via Negri Electronics? No one has heard of any other way? 0.o
I don't suppose there's any other phone that can compete with the D3 as far as specs and a full QWERTY keyboard, huh? Bummer, big time
I'm coming from a VZW TP2 and i know people used it on Tmobile and other GSM networks by unlocking the SIM. The way I did it was by calling Verizon and telling them I was going out of the country and they did it for free on the phone, I'm not sure how to do it if you're already on another network or don't activate it with Verizon first (For free). But that's definitely what you should look for, once the SIM is unlocked it should work anywhere as long as you enable roaming.
kern417 said:
I'm coming from a VZW TP2 and i know people used it on Tmobile and other GSM networks by unlocking the SIM. The way I did it was by calling Verizon and telling them I was going out of the country and they did it for free on the phone, I'm not sure how to do it if you're already on another network or don't activate it with Verizon first (For free). But that's definitely what you should look for, once the SIM is unlocked it should work anywhere as long as you enable roaming.
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Simlock or not you can use the droid 3 anywhere in the world but not in the us.
No matter if you use the verizon sim or any other sim.
To do it you need the so called band unlocking which is currently unavailable for the droid 3 and when and if will be, will require a good amount of money.
In short if you need the phone buy a milestone 3/Xt860
...but keep in mind, that while root and recovery are a go for the XT860, there's no custom ROMs working as of yet.
It'll come though.
The Solutor said:
Simlock or not you can use the droid 3 anywhere in the world but not in the us.
No matter if you use the verizon sim or any other sim.
To do it you need the so called band unlocking which is currently unavailable for the droid 3 and when and if will be, will require a good amount of money.
In short if you need the phone buy a milestone 3/Xt860
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Did a little research, but just to be clear, the Milestone 3 (aka the XT860) is the Canadian version of the D3, released by Bell, correct?
And since it already works in North America, could I simply buy one and use it on AT&T as-is? Or would it also need some sort of unlocking?
Correct
Given the price should be an unlocked phone, ready to be used anywhere in the world US included.
Thanks, I almost bought an XT883 a few days ago, that would have been terrible. Stupid Verizon and their locked-down phones.
[UPDATE]
Alright. Thanks to you guys' help and support, I averted a financial disaster and a raft of headaches/psychological meltdowns. I just ordered:
Brand new, unlocked with 2-year warranty:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/180734574619?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
Genuine Motorola 1930mAh Extended Battery w/Cover:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/290617184513?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
Can't wait to get my hands on a D3! My first truly new phone since I bought my Motorola SLVR 5 years ago, with its amazing, first-of-its-kind ability to play up to a whopping 100 iTunes songs on its giant 512mb MicroSD card.
I'm in Hawaii, waiting on a phone being shipped from Canada though, so it'll be a couple days
Thanks again for your patience guys, especially Solutor, your advice really made a difference. I clicked the Thanks button for you.
Savior
You are welcome.

[Q] Questions about Sprint Unlocking

So I see there is a thread about unlocking your phone in these forums but that says its a GSM unlock. I have no idea what I'm doing when it comes to unlocking phones but I know I want to use my sprint M8 on Verizon since I'm switching services.
So my question is, is there any way to unlock my phone to work on the Verizon network? Is that unlocking method make it work on Verizon or just ATT?
Sorry but I am extremely ignorant on the subject and am looking for some info, rather not rebuy my one.
Knnox said:
So I see there is a thread about unlocking your phone in these forums but that says its a GSM unlock. I have no idea what I'm doing when it comes to unlocking phones but I know I want to use my sprint M8 on Verizon since I'm switching services.
So my question is, is there any way to unlock my phone to work on the Verizon network? Is that unlocking method make it work on Verizon or just ATT?
Sorry but I am extremely ignorant on the subject and am looking for some info, rather not rebuy my one.
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Hi, extremely sorry that no one took the time to respond to this sooner. I believe there is 2 methods to do this, one being a SIM unlock and another being the GSM unlock you mentioned above. To my knowledge GSM unlock is what you want but sadly I don't think there is any 'free' way of doing this. I've never personally GSM unlocked one of my own phones but I have helped a friend do so. Anyways in order to GSM unlock a phone you need a special 'generated' (i think generated) code to input in your phone which will unlock it and allow it to use other carriers besides the one it was made for.
Here is a presumably valid tutorial on how to do this on an HTC One M8.
I would recommend trying freeunlocks.com first, only because I have a coupon from there which i'll gladly give you if you plan on using it. Only reason I have one and or am giving it away is because previously I bought one from there and they didn't have a code at the time so they refunded me and gave me a coupon code to enter if I ever purchased from them again which I most likely won't as I have no need for GSM unlocking, i.e why i'm giving it away. If by some chance freeunlocks does not work then you can try the one in the video or you can look for others.
If you would like to try this and want the coupon for freeunlocks.com then just say so in your response and I'll PM you it. I think its for either a discount or a free code, I don't really remember as this was quite a while ago when I was given it. (around a year)
Goodluck!
I'm just not sure if this would work because I'm trying to go from sprint to verizon, both being CDMA. If I did this would it mean I have to go to ATT?
Knnox said:
I'm just not sure if this would work because I'm trying to go from sprint to verizon, both being CDMA. If I did this would it mean I have to go to ATT?
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I don't think so, according to this it should have all the proper bands to support both Sprint & Verizon. On the off hand there is always the chance that this link I just sent is ONLY for the International model and I am wrong which I very well could be. I've had trouble truly understanding if all versions of phones have support for the same bands or if they don't. I'd recommend researching this a bit or waiting until someone else comes along with the proper knowledge to assist you in your question on the radio bands comes along.
Anyways LS;DR, It should work but I may be wrong so do your own research or wait for someone else with the proper knowledge to assist you to come along.

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