Hi All,
I'm wanting to use my Diamond in the car to replace both my old iPod and sat-nav, while still having phone functions available. There are a few things I'm not happy with, so I thought I see what other people are doing.
I have a car head unit with a direct 3.5mm line-in, which used to have the iPod on the end. The Diamond works fine plugged into this through an ebay 3.5mm\USB adaptor.
If I plug the 12v>USB charger in, I get a whine over the audio - not a big problem, it's just a ground-loop, so I'll stick an isolating transformer in-line.
The main problem I have is switching between the internal speaker and the external output. If I want to have the radio on, rather than MP3, I have to unplug the adaptor, and plug the charging cable in direct, so that I can keep the battery charged - not ideal. This way I can hear the TomTom voices through the internal speaker, but it seems wrong to have to swap leads this way.
The other main problem is if I have MP3 and TomTom all through the stereo, and I get a call, I can hear the call over the stereo, but can't speak, as the Diamond is expecting an external microphone.
I guess what I need is a utility to force only the internal microphone to be used, and to allow me to force the internal speaker when I want to use the radio. It there such a thing?
I think one of these car holders has an option to plug in charger and usb-3.5mm jack adapter at the same time....
http://www.dsldevelopments.com/brodit/Holder/HTC+Touch Diamond-Brodit-Holder.asp
If i had the skills i'd try to figure out a hack to pause/mute the mp3 and mute satnav when in a call... but I don't.
That's not the problem - I can plug in the charger and 3.5mm audio at the some time, but that redirects all the audio to the car stereo, and disconnects the mic. Removing the adaptor and plugging in just the charger enables the microphone, but all my MP3s then are played through the internal speaker.
What I need is a utility to force the internal microphone to be used _all_ the time, and let me choose when to use the internal speaker when a headset is detected.
I don't suppose anyone knows how the Diamond recognises a headset? Is there a resistor link across a couple of the pins in the 11pin connnector? I'm just thinking I could make up a cable with a switch to break that contact, and 'virtually' disconnect the headset when I want the radio, or need the microphone active during a call.
You could try this program. It seems to be a virtual switch between the earpiece and external speaker. I use it a a solution for skype and other voip programs that only work through the external speaker, but the works the other way as well.
headset instaled but need phone mic allways enable
Hello,
Kaysee_sw said:
The other main problem is if I have MP3 and TomTom all through the stereo, and I get a call, I can hear the call over the stereo, but can't speak, as the Diamond is expecting an external microphone.
I guess what I need is a utility to force only the internal microphone to be used, and to allow me to force the internal speaker when I want to use the radio. It there such a thing?
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I have the same issue of kaisee.
I use the diamond as mp3 player in my car stereo (aux-in) and i need the mic allways available to use the phone without disconect the usb or audio plug.
In my old magician this worked just fine becouse the mic was allways available.
Is the .exe posted by dctech the answer(thanks man) ? has anybody tested ? is it reliable or there is another solution?
Thanks
You need a proper bluetooth car kit to allow this. Parrot ones are very good. If you want to listen to music as well as phone calls and sat nav i would suggest that you get one with both handset and A2DP bluetooth profiles. There is a workaround app you can use to get music through a car kit with just a handset or headset profile but the quality is mono and very poor
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I have recently accuired the TomTom Navagator 2 software and am extremely pleased with it.
I do not currently have any car kit for making handsfree phone calls.
I have installed tha loud voice prompts so that the tomtom voice commands can be heard through the xda's speakers and im happy with this.
However compared to the loud voice prompts by the navigator software the handsfree audio available through the xdas speaker during a phone call is almost inaudiable over the road noise.
I therefore think im going to have to buy or build some handsfree.
My question is primarilly if im to use the car_audio_r and car _audio_l pins to output audio does all audio output through these pins or only phone audio. ie will i also hear the navigator voice prompts through my hands free (this is what i want)
Also Im wondering if it is possible to use the output from these pins to send audio to a car speaker without connecting an external mic and continueing to use the microfone built in to the xda during phone calls as know one has ever complained about not hearing me - i just cant hear them.
Thanks in advance for any help anyone can give - im sure somebody out there has played with this allready.
roycruse said:
My question is primarilly if im to use the car_audio_r and car _audio_l pins to output audio does all audio output through these pins or only phone audio. ie will i also hear the navigator voice prompts through my hands free (this is what i want)
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All audio (phone and PDA) is output on these pins.
Also Im wondering if it is possible to use the output from these pins to send audio to a car speaker without connecting an external mic and continueing to use the microfone built in to the xda during phone calls as know one has ever complained about not hearing me - i just cant hear them.
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As long as leave the CAR_ON# pin open (i.e. not connect it to ground or 5V), the microphone of the device is used.
As long as leave the CAR_ON# pin open (i.e. not connect it to ground or 5V), the microphone of the device is used.
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Do you mean that internal microphone is used but all audio is still output to the car_audio_r and car _audio_l pins with the car_on# pin left open.
roycruse said:
Do you mean that internal microphone is used but all audio is still output to the car_audio_r and car _audio_l pins with the car_on# pin left open.
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correct.
The soldering iron is warming up allready.
The soldering iron is warming up allready.
That sounds like exactly what i need - ill modify my tomtom cable to include the 2 new connectors then run an extra cable out of the 3 way connector on the tomtom lead to go to either my car stereo or a speaker amp mounted under the seat or something.
I dont know if my stereo in my car will except car phone input as its in the shop at the moment getting repaired so i cant take it out - but how do these things usually work - does a pin on the stereo side have to go +5 or GND for the car phone audio to replace the music or does it detect audio and automatically cut in over the music... excuse my ignorance car stereos and car kits are not in my realm of expertise.
If there is a pin that has to be made +5 or GND on steroes to know when the audio needs to be output can the xda handle this at all...
Usually car radios have a mute input to turn off or down the music when the phone needs the speakers. The XDA does not have such an output. You could fabricate something that detects audio and then for a preset time presents the right mute signal to the radio.
Always questions ask you do... Try and fail you must to learn!
Thanks for all your help. I'll start hacking at all my new kit as soon as possible...
Hi all!
I have TomTom7 installed which is working fine (almost).
When I place my Diamond in the car holder (three way output w. USB-Charge/USB-Headphones/3,5mm Headphone) all sounds from my phone are muted (believed to be connected to a headphone I guess).
I could connect the phone to the car audio system via a 3,5 mm audio plug, but then I cannot listen to the radio at the same time as navigating with TomTom.
Is there any known way to solve this so the TomTom7 directions and warnings are always routed through the Diamond internal speaker?
groover71 said:
Hi all!
I have TomTom7 installed which is working fine (almost).
When I place my Diamond in the car holder (three way output w. USB-Charge/USB-Headphones/3,5mm Headphone) all sounds from my phone are muted (believed to be connected to a headphone I guess).
I could connect the phone to the car audio system via a 3,5 mm audio plug, but then I cannot listen to the radio at the same time as navigating with TomTom.
Is there any known way to solve this so the TomTom7 directions and warnings are always routed through the Diamond internal speaker?
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i have this carholder too, it's from brodit right? It's true, the moment you plug in the diamond it thinks it's connected to a headset, so no sound from internal speaker. Ideal for listening to music when connected to your car stereo ofcourse, but when receiving a call you have to take out the diamond, because the sound goes through the car speakers (if the output is connected to your car stereo ofcourse) but you can't talk back because diamonds mic is also muted! I hope there is a way to solve this. Maybe a little program that allows you to direct sound and mic settings?
It's also a similar problem with the little USB to 3.5mm audio adapters, they make the diamond think there is a mic plugged in when there isn't and when someone calls you while you're listening to music, they cant hear you unless you unplug the headphones.
I've also noticed that when the diamond is in my car and connected to my bluetooth kit, the calls come via bluetooth but TomTom does not, this particularly annoys me, as when I'm listening to loud music I miss the speed camera alerts and also obviously cant hear the voice directions.
There seem to be some fairly serious shortcomings in this area. A simple set of options that let the user choose what he/she likes would be best.
Yepp Glenner, it is a Brodit car holder!
A program to solve this as you mention would be great!
Anyone got the skills to solve this?
Yesterday driving home from my work I noticed that the ring tone on an incoming call was heard even when the phone was placed in the holder...
So there must be a way to have the sound re-directed to the internal speaker???
Solved!
Try this little program http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-btmusic.html It sends audio from you diamond to either BT headphone or speaker. Just tried it and seems to work fine, but does need .netCF 2.
Best of luck!
Hi, this BT music doesn't seem to work with my car kit... My car kit supports HFP profile (Handsfree profile)...
What did you do exactly to make it work?
eadon said:
Try this little program http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-btmusic.html It sends audio from you diamond to either BT headphone or speaker. Just tried it and seems to work fine, but does need .netCF 2.
Best of luck!
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if you rename btmusic.exe.config (not btmusic.exe!!) you can run it too with .NET CF 3.5
Trick i learned from the developer of BTMusic.
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if you rename btmusic.exe.config (not btmusic.exe!!) you can run it too with .NET CF 3.5
Trick i learned from the developer of BTMusic.
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Rename to what?
I figured it out. Renaming btmusic.exe.config to btmusic.exe.configx does it.
I bought a connection for my diamond to connect to the aux input of my car stereo sort of hoping that it would work by allowing me to use the car speakers to speak & listen from phone, listening was not a problem, crystal clear but the person on the other end could not hear me. Is there an easy way to get this sorted? My stereo does not have bluetooth.
Depends on what sort of "connection" you have bought and how it works. Is it meant to be a handsfree unit, in which case it should come with its own microphone?
Or is it a USB type headset lead unit that is only meant to be used as a means of playing music via the car stereo, in which case you probably can't attach a microphone and can't use it as a handfree unit.
The way to sort it is to buy a bluetooth handsfree unit complete with microphone. These communicate with your phone using bluetooth and can either have their own amp and speaker or be wired into your car audio (usually via the phone facility in the DIN connector on the back of the car unit).
If you want to use for both phone calls and listening music it is best to get one that supports multiple Bluetooth profiles, including handsfree and A2DP.
When using a stereo headphone adapter in the ADP1, when the headphones are plugged in, despite the lack of any external microphone, the internal microphone is deactivated.
This prevents the phone from being used as a car phone; I have my ADP1 on a windshield mount with audio routed via headphone adapter to double-male cable to car stereo input. If the internal mike was still operational, it would allow the phone to be used as a hands free car phone.
Is there any app that can be used to prevent the microphone from auto switching off?
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I have a similar problem, I have a great car holder for my TP2 which charges and transmits music/sound over fm to my stereo. It is not bluetooth the holder has USB. The phone shows the headphone symbol but the holder has no mic. So if i could tell the phone to not use the non-existent usb mic and use the internal one it would be a carphone. If anyone can help it would be great.
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When using a stereo headphone adapter in the ADP1, when the headphones are plugged in, despite the lack of any external microphone, the internal microphone is deactivated...
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Exactly the same problem here. Wanna use my G1 in the car, but if I connect the phone->adapter->car audio, the mic switches off. Does anyone can think about any way to avoid it? May be by using some sort of special adapter or some kind of software hack?
Thank you for your ideas!
+ 1 on this
Should be a simple hack (something like 1 value changed in the code) for more-experienced dev (certainly not me )
I have searched everywhere and can't seem to find a answer to this...
I use a phone cradle in the car, using my topaz as my music player, connecting my phone to my car stereo with a male-male 3.5mm audio jack.
I want to be able to steam music via bluetooth from any other compatible phone / device to my phone, meaning I don't have to trail cables everywhere when a passenger wants to play something.
I would have thought this to be a simple-ish thing to setup but cannot find any information on how to do it. Is it even possible, and where would I start if it is?
I also want to use my on-board mic when the headset is plugged so I can have call audio over car speakers, although iv been led to believe this isn't possible because of hardware reasons, can anybody clarify that?
Apologies if this is in the wrong forum, not really sure where it should have gone.
If I understand you correctly, you want to stream music TO your phone over BT from another device? Not possible.
For hearing call over speakers and using mic, you need to get the M-F w/built in mic.
I too don't think it will be possible to stream music from another device to your phone except if you transfer the entire music mp3 file via bluetooth to your device and then play it from there.
Regarding the possibility of using the device's microphone whilst using the car speakers for sound, again I'm afraid I don't think this is possible. I have a similar set-up to you in that my TD2 is connected to an FM transmitter which also charges my TD2 at the same time in a nice cradle. The TD2 thinks it is connected to a headset when cradled. The microphone is inactive in this state which is a shame as it would have made a good hands free system if it were to be active....
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I too don't think it will be possible to stream music from another device to your phone except if you transfer the entire music mp3 file via bluetooth to your device and then play it from there.
Regarding the possibility of using the device's microphone whilst using the car speakers for sound, again I'm afraid I don't think this is possible. I have a similar set-up to you in that my TD2 is connected to an FM transmitter which also charges my TD2 at the same time in a nice cradle. The TD2 thinks it is connected to a headset when cradled. The microphone is inactive in this state which is a shame as it would have made a good hands free system if it were to be active....
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I use this set up as well. You just need the cable with the built in mic.
My RF Transmitter has a male plug, So I found the HTC cable that has the HTC USB to Female with built in mic. This is my basic set up.
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I use this set up as well. You just need the cable with the built in mic.
My RF Transmitter has a male plug, So I found the HTC cable that has the HTC USB to Female with built in mic. This is my basic set up.
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That set up looks great Bruce, but I don't want to be fiddling about plugging in so many cables with so many wires visible. Brodit does something similar too, all in a cradle with an extended wire so you would be able to hide all the cables....