Ok Maybe there was another post on this before...
And I also had a quick look through the forums to see if theres already an area devoted to the Dream...
But I got to ask,
What the hell was the designer thinking as he or she was scribbling down sketches and design concepts for this phone?
Hardware great,
Android great [though missing fancy GUI like Touchflow3d and uses stranded android desktop],
Fanatic designs and aesthetically pleasing to look at. Oops missed that one.
What the hell where they thinking? It looks like a cheap third world country knock off. A design thats a throw back to the 80s of cream white and ugly buttons.
After the Touch series [diamond pro HD and 3G and Pearls or is it Pebble...] How on earth did they manage to get this one out of the design room?
Hardware wise its fairly similar to the touch pro, so they could of easily gone along the lines of the Touch pro design with Android implementation.
Also why didnt they change the default front end of android with a nicer one?
The whole phone and its development smells of being total rushed without any real thinking at every step.
[except the basic fundamentals like hardware support and driver support under android, everything else though is out the window]
Now I’m sure HTC engineers and designers occasionally look around this forum to test the water so to speak. I only wish they would come forward and explain themselves with this monstrosity, It had the potential to be something truly great. But now seems as if it would be brushed under the carpet.
Maybe im just mindlessly ranting. If thats the case just ignore me
Nutsy
NutsyUK said:
Ok Maybe there was another post on this before...
And I also had a quick look through the forums to see if theres already an area devoted to the Dream...
But I got to ask,
What the hell was the designer thinking as he or she was scribbling down sketches and design concepts for this phone?
Hardware great,
Android great [though missing fancy GUI like Touchflow3d and uses stranded android desktop],
Fanatic designs and aesthetically pleasing to look at. Oops missed that one.
What the hell where they thinking? It looks like a cheap third world country knock off. A design thats a throw back to the 80s of cream white and ugly buttons.
After the Touch series [diamond pro HD and 3G and Pearls or is it Pebble...] How on earth did they manage to get this one out of the design room?
Hardware wise its fairly similar to the touch pro, so they could of easily gone along the lines of the Touch pro design with Android implementation.
Also why didnt they change the default front end of android with a nicer one?
The whole phone and its development smells of being total rushed without any real thinking at every step.
[except the basic fundamentals like hardware support and driver support under android, everything else though is out the window]
Now I’m sure HTC engineers and designers occasionally look around this forum to test the water so to speak. I only wish they would come forward and explain themselves with this monstrosity, It had the potential to be something truly great. But now seems as if it would be brushed under the carpet.
Maybe im just mindlessly ranting. If thats the case just ignore me
Nutsy
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Mind your language dude......u might be upsetting readers here.....
Eh? saying something looks like a cheap knock off from a third world country is bad language? How?
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Mind your language dude......u might be upsetting readers here.....
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Agree, please mind your languaje
we are a lot of people form third world countries like me...
I wouldn't call Mexico a third world country.
And the term at least over hear doesnt brand a country at all... nor am i identifying a country.
Simply that this phone design has the quality of cheap knock offs.
Sorry if i have managed to offend anyone that wasnt the intension...
So please keep on topic.
The HTC Dream is ugly...
NutsyUK said:
Ok Maybe there was another post on this before...
And I also had a quick look through the forums to see if theres already an area devoted to the Dream...
But I got to ask,
What the hell was the designer thinking as he or she was scribbling down sketches and design concepts for this phone?
Hardware great,
Android great [though missing fancy GUI like Touchflow3d and uses stranded android desktop],
Fanatic designs and aesthetically pleasing to look at. Oops missed that one.
What the hell where they thinking? It looks like a cheap third world country knock off. A design thats a throw back to the 80s of cream white and ugly buttons.
After the Touch series [diamond pro HD and 3G and Pearls or is it Pebble...] How on earth did they manage to get this one out of the design room?
Hardware wise its fairly similar to the touch pro, so they could of easily gone along the lines of the Touch pro design with Android implementation.
Also why didnt they change the default front end of android with a nicer one?
The whole phone and its development smells of being total rushed without any real thinking at every step.
[except the basic fundamentals like hardware support and driver support under android, everything else though is out the window]
Now I’m sure HTC engineers and designers occasionally look around this forum to test the water so to speak. I only wish they would come forward and explain themselves with this monstrosity, It had the potential to be something truly great. But now seems as if it would be brushed under the carpet.
Maybe im just mindlessly ranting. If thats the case just ignore me
Nutsy
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I read part of your post but am now ignoring the rest.
Should I go into the Blue Angel forum and start saying how I think it's an ugly piece of poop too, and what was HTC thinking? Seriously.. just your aesthetic opinion.. like everyone else.. let's not try and make it more then what it really is.
I think the dream looks nice. The white one is ok but the black one looks sexy. Also how is it rushed the phone has been in developement for over a year. That doesn't sound rushed to me. I for one can't wait for the phone and I'm going to get it the first day.
why dnt u make a phone yourself... since ur complaining about it.. or dnt even wrry bout it
briggs81 said:
I read part of your post but am now ignoring the rest.
Should I go into the Blue Angel forum and start saying how I think it's an ugly piece of poop too, and what was HTC thinking? Seriously.. just your aesthetic opinion.. like everyone else.. let's not try and make it more then what it really is.
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Heh Heh You said poop.
Ok guys, lets not be so sensitive about his statement.
And lets not make careless offensive statements.
Let's have fun and talk about how pretty the Dream is. (or isn't)
For real...why is everyone jumping all over this guy for an opinion? It's not as if he posted in the wrong forum.
I don't think it's ugly, but hey I have been known to wear stripes with plaid on occasion.
Well, everyone is entitles to an opinion and although I agree it is importnant to be careful how you phrase things, you are always entitled to your opinion. I have many friends from Mexico and lived there myself for a while. They all say the same thing. It is not that great when it comes to looks but I can say that I have had many pretty things that were only so so when then came to performance. I do not look at the cosmetic side as much as I do the performance. I would use a brick if it gave me the best performance and reliability. I just hope they don't jack the price too much...
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Friends,
Is it possible to skin the AT&T WM6 ppc phone to look and behave like the Apple IPhone?
Tvos
Here's what you need
$400 and this
Do a search for "iphone skin" and programs like iFonz will help you.
Try to make it look unique and useful, instead of making it look like anothe 'me-too' product from Apple...
sell ur phone and get an iphone
bapssystupr3m3 said:
sell ur phone and get an iphone
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I agree... ebay
Jimmyy said:
I agree... ebay
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and lose all your 3rd party apps, 3.0mp camera, GPS, and kaiser greatness, lol.
BRILLIANT!
Or trade like I did, people are willing to trade.
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and lose all your 3rd party apps, 3.0mp camera, GPS, and kaiser greatness, lol.
BRILLIANT!
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Hahaha, I rather have the guy loose that than skin alive a Sexy Kaiser with nasty iphone mock-up skins and such. It's not the devices fault he's confused =(
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Friends,
Is it possible to skin the AT&T WM6 ppc phone to look and behave like the Apple IPhone?
Tvos
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You're asking Kaiser Owners how to do this?
That's like going to the dark side and asking if theres anyway to skin your Red saber to look like obi-wans shiny blue one...
iphone skins are like dragQueens == you are not fooling that many people in the end
Why does everybody want having his phone look like that gayPhone (or anything starting with i- )?
So you're saying the WM6 user interface is better looking than the iPhone?
Please, I wish you all would STFU with that elitist asshole garbage man. The iPhone interface IS slick and DOES look good. Sometimes people don't want to deal with the WM interface, it isn't pretty. It isn't slick. Period.
If you don't like the fact that he wants an iPhone skin,stay the hell out of his thread, especially if you aren't going to contribute. He apparently doesn't care about your opinion about HIS phone, leave him alone.
Back on topic: Sorry about just adding to the clutter of your thread man, best advice I can give you is to just search around. I haven't tried any iPhone skins, but I do want to try it just to see how it works out.
well said noyz. the chap came on here looking for an answer (which, admittedly if he had searched a little he would have found) and everyone jumps at the occasion to spout loads of 'LOLZ IPHONE IS **** LOLZ' rubbish. people can skin their wm phones however they want - and im sure some people want it to look like an iphone, whilst retaining the kaisers excellent features. i personally dont, but i do use s2u, which i find is an excellent app.
my advice is to search here, and also - if you find theres a bit too much - give youtube a try - most of the 'wm6 iphone' style videos will list somewhere how they've done it, or at least what programs were used - and you'll get a good idea of what sort of stuff you want and dont.
but jesus christ, in what way is it helpful to him to comment 'sell your phone and buy an iphone' :|
im affraid to say thats one of the thnigs i dislike about this site - the arrogance and elitism.
why
Jamiewalshe said:
but jesus christ, in what way is it helpful to him to comment 'sell your phone and buy an iphone' :|
im affraid to say thats one of the thnigs i dislike about this site - the arrogance and elitism.
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Because its all about choices in life, He bought performance, how on earth can it behave like a iphone with WM, different touchscreen, different hardware etc. I think the interface of the iphone is beatifull, but it performs like nothing.
He decided performace, so he should accept that its not possible to make it a iphone, if he wants, sell the HTC and buy a iphone.
Why does everyone get mad when people suggest to sell the phone to get the iphone? If you want the iPhone UI and feel get an iPhone, plain and simple.
its obviously he doesnt want to magically turn it into an iphone! he just wants it to have a similar ui and look to it. hence the 'how can i skin my phone to look like an iphone'
my point about the 'sell the phone and buy an iphone' comment was that it wasnt constructive help in anyway. its like telling him he should have crapped in a toilet if he had announced that he crapped his pants, so to speak. it doesnt help at all.
what if you want the look and layout of an iphone but you want a wm device and all the features kaiser has? your way of thinking suggests your answer would be to buy nothing and wait, when an appropriate compromise can be made.
Jamiewalshe said:
your way of thinking suggests your answer would be to buy nothing and wait, when an appropriate compromise can be made.
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Yes, because itæs simply not possible to add an iphone UI to a WM6 device, I will not say het should sell his HTC and iphone, thats a little bit short thinking.
BUT, the poster should keep in mind that he does not have a iphone it is or-or, not both, a iphone iu will never be near realistic since the hardware is so different..
swiftgs said:
Yes, because itæs simply not possible to add an iphone UI to a WM6 device, I will not say het should sell his HTC and iphone, thats a little bit short thinking.
BUT, the poster should keep in mind that he does not have a iphone it is or-or, not both, a iphone iu will never be near realistic since the hardware is so different..
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i agree, and it would be very naive to believe that a wm6 device could have an exact iphone ui, but for the sake of arguing - what can be done (taking into account differences in hardware) its not a million miles off.
without making too many assumptions, i would imagine the majority of those that use an iphone style ui on their wm6 device do so purely for aesthetic reasons.
tvos said:
Friends,
Is it possible to skin the AT&T WM6 ppc phone to look and behave like the Apple IPhone?
Tvos
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Hello Tvos,
If you're not interested in the WinMo interface and wont something that feels like an iPhone, you may want to test out an application called Point UI. It is not an iPhone interface but it does similarities like a sliding interface.
Hope this helps.
visit http://www.v2r.ag
This is the company that produced the GUI for the iphone and it now also has similar ones available for the kaiser. These will appear on your today screen as a full user interface and runs very smooth.
Some of the products have to be purchased but the main ones are shareware
Hope you all enjoy
EDIT: Obviously the icons aren't the same as the iphone as apple owns the graphics
some comments on what you guys think about it would be nice lol
That is a powerfull homescreen plugin!!
Love it!!
I take it you are on about their product "X-Cube". Sadly, it's the product with the least amount of information. The O2 Active UI is also available on there (and seems to be free). Last time I used that was on my wizard where I removed it asap because it didn't appear able to cope.
I wonder if my Kaiser would manage it.
Good find!
yeah the active UI is the specific piece i was on about. It handles perfectly on a kaiser
fidly
can't really knock it as its be best i've seen bar htc's own. its not really clear enough fr me what each of the buttons do or mean. if its not intuitive then i can't recommend. it looks great and feels initially like you should love it however after5mins of working it i'm back to my htc home. sadly...
Love it, check this :
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yeah the active UI is the specific piece i was on about. It handles perfectly on a kaiser
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Which one? I tried the one labelled "V2R Active UI v1.0" and it was a bit crappy, I had a whole pile of free things already which were better.
The one labelled Active UI Multitouch (which is shown in the picture above) had issues (praise be for safe mode) on my Kaiser, but I am guessing it is something to do with the fact that I don't use WMP and I have Mobile Shell installed.
I was hoping for something similar to the O2 Active UI which they are showcasing here -
http://www.v2r.ag/showcase/
I probably ought to go yoink the cab off my Wizard when I see my Dad next.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=360941
well.....ummmm... i pointed out it was made by the iphone gui developers. lol. You beat me to that one damn oh well good find anyway
livefastdiefun87 said:
well.....ummmm... i pointed out it was made by the iphone gui developers. lol. You beat me to that one damn oh well good find anyway
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These guys had kinetic scrolling on the today screen before everybody else,they just never improved on the friction which made it too slow to make a splash.Then they sell you icons at this day and age.They obviously took a few tips from Apple.
This is true but when they were the creators of the GUI for the iphone they know the company will now be reputable enough to start charging for additional icon packs
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This is true but when they were the creators of the GUI for the iphone they know the company will now be reputable enough to start charging for additional icon packs
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Stop lying and spreading this BS. These people had nothing to do with the iPhone's GUI. The iPhone's UI was wholly created in-house by Apple.
This whole topic is stupid.
HAHAHA considering I have spoken to members of this company in my job WORKING INTERNALLY FOR ORANGE I think youjust made a redundant comment there my good ol' chap
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Stop lying and spreading this BS. These people had nothing to do with the iPhone's GUI. The iPhone's UI was wholly created in-house by Apple.
This whole topic is stupid.
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Whoa Mr. Jobs Calm down.
pretty cool
livefastdiefun87 said:
visit http://www.v2r.ag
This is the company that produced the GUI for the iphone and it now also has similar ones available for the kaiser. These will appear on your today screen as a full user interface and runs very smooth.
Some of the products have to be purchased but the main ones are shareware
Hope you all enjoy
EDIT: Obviously the icons aren't the same as the iphone as apple owns the graphics
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Not sure what you're talking about, the iPhone GUI was produced by APPLE, not an external company. You must be dreaming...or maybe you just smoke some pot.
You just make a fool out of yourself by claiming this, just stop it.
P996 said:
Not sure what you're talking about, the iPhone GUI was produced by APPLE, not an external company. You must be dreaming...or maybe you just smoke some pot.
You just make a fool out of yourself by claiming this, just stop it.
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Remember though that Apple STOLE MacOS from Xerox. Just saying.
Oh and... Calm Down Mr. Jobs. No one is going to take your Apples.
Remember Pablo Picasso said: "Good artists copy; great artists steal."
livefastdiefun87 said:
visit http://www.v2r.ag
This is the company that produced the GUI for the iphone and it now also has similar ones available for the kaiser. These will appear on your today screen as a full user interface and runs very smooth.
Some of the products have to be purchased but the main ones are shareware
Hope you all enjoy
EDIT: Obviously the icons aren't the same as the iphone as apple owns the graphics
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This product is pretty crappy and slow compared to a lot others out there. I also had problems removing Point UI from my device... yuck.
It was slow to respond, setup was very frustrating and not very intuitive, programs are hard to find and difficult to sort through... No real improvements and it limits viewable area a lot with the "touch to open" feature taking up a big portion of the screen. If you want something like this I would go with Ultimate Launch or SPB Mobile Shell.
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Remember though that Apple STOLE MacOS from Xerox. Just saying.
Oh and... Calm Down Mr. Jobs. No one is going to take your Apples.
Remember Pablo Picasso said: "Good artists copy; great artists steal."
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I mainly use(and develop) Microsoft Windows products, even if I'm a registered member of the Apple Developer Network.
Not sure what you're trying to imply but following your twisted reality, Bill Gates stole Windows from Big Blue...well...he paid a couple of bucks for it.
Anyway, I'm still not sure what you're trying to say but one thing is for sure: Apple DID NOT outsource iPhone GUI development, this is a FACT and you can rant about it all day long, it doesn't change the truth.
As above - Chl 5 8pm tonight
i doubt this will be usefull or give you the result you hope for.
I doubt they will even know, let alone try, about flashing and the massive advantages this gives. I doubt they will touch on the various 3rd party apps that really make this phone and instead, will focus on a standard "factory fit" which, lets face it, is a bit crap. Will they cover the fact that this phone is an exellent business tool (oh how i miss TV/VGA out ... )
I also doubt they will mention the Iphones failings, its 2.0 software disaster, its "push" (yeerrr right!) email or the fact people are having there entire contacts and calendars being wiped out in front of them or again that they STILL can't change batteries
I see them going for the Iphone.
Who knows, Germans have choosen Diamond as a best phone on the world with iPhone as a 2nd with quite big adventage. Who knows, maybe those people will make some big review and will compare those phones in every aspect.
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Who knows, Germans have choosen Diamond as a best phone on the world with iPhone as a 2nd with quite big adventage. Who knows, maybe those people will make some big review and will compare those phones in every aspect.
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What do you mean "Germans"? Do you mean the entire population voted on it or a selected "Gadget Show" like TV program?
http://www.inside-handy.de/news/12140.html
1500 of german inside-handy.de users choosen Diamond as most desirable phone of the year. I was wrong, not the best, but most desirable
The Gadget Show IMO is only of use to morons - the sort who go to Currys etc and believe the 'salesmen' when they say they need a £80 monster hdmi cable. They never set things up properly and i'll guarantee they haven't flashed the roms etc. I know you shouldn't really need to but thats my point, gadget show is for people who don't know nothing!
nutcracker2 said:
http://www.inside-handy.de/news/12140.html
1500 of german inside-handy.de users choosen Diamond as most desirable phone of the year. I was wrong, not the best, but most desirable
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... but the poll was done in 12.06.2008 with the old iPhone and not with 3G!
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The Gadget Show IMO is only of use to morons - the sort who go to Currys etc and believe the 'salesmen' when they say they need a £80 monster hdmi cable. They never set things up properly and i'll guarantee they haven't flashed the roms etc. I know you shouldn't really need to but thats my point, gadget show is for people who don't know nothing!
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I watch the gadget show because some of it well put together and you can tell the producers/presenters do know what they are talking about even if they do have to dumb it down for a maintream tv audience somewhat.
As regards the flashing issue, I doubt they will go into it in detail but why should they? Most users don't know about it and if you did tell them they probably wouldnt want to be bothered with it anyway. Its a big time sink just for a setting up a mobile, which should really have been done by HTC in the first place.
Check out this link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybaPS0NLwFQ
Most of the people they ask dont even realise about all the 3rd party apps or different roms,all they seem interested in is the way it looks.
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Check out this link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybaPS0NLwFQ
Most of the people they ask dont even realise about all the 3rd party apps or different roms,all they seem interested in is the way it looks.
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Thanks for the link, i hadn't realised before how crappy that show is, are they trying to be Top Gear or something! They're doing camera shots of the pavement that are so quick the phones blurred! And if the presenter emphasised his words anymore he'd explode.
In that video, that kind of test is always going to be about looks, if you even try to use the phone you wont know how because youve only had 5 seconds with it so all they can compare is looks, size, weight etc and go on what the presenters say.
Two things immediately spring to mind on watching the clip - Apple has spent a fortune on promoting the iphone, so that anyone who watches TV will have an idea how it works - if the touch screen from the Diamond had been given similar video tutorials on primetime TV, no doubt a lot of people would find the interface just as user friendly.
The other factor is the Apple effect - people feel that Apple has a brand value akin to Richard Branson's woolly jumpers - all cuddly and vaguely environmental/hippy chic. I prefer to be apart from the crowds, not queueing to buy on the basis of marketing hype.
Well I'm definitely sending my Diamond back. The one they had on the gadget show had a hardware keyboard and a Nokia label. Mine has neither.
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Well I'm definitely sending my Diamond back. The one they had on the gadget show had a hardware keyboard and a Nokia label. Mine has neither.
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LOL yeah i know i watched it too..... check out the youtube link for the web tv review (previous posts)
The review was crap anyway, people like the look of the iphone, but thats it.
None of the functionality of the Diamond was really talked about, very poor review. (if you could even call it that !)
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The Gadget Show IMO is only of use to morons - the sort who go to Currys etc and believe the 'salesmen' when they say they need a £80 monster hdmi cable. They never set things up properly and i'll guarantee they haven't flashed the roms etc. I know you shouldn't really need to but thats my point, gadget show is for people who don't know nothing!
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I disagree the Gadget Show is for people who don not know anything - I watch it over the internet and I find this a useful program indeed. But I do disagree with some of the shows findings on best products...
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Two things immediately spring to mind on watching the clip - Apple has spent a fortune on promoting the iphone, so that anyone who watches TV will have an idea how it works - if the touch screen from the Diamond had been given similar video tutorials on primetime TV, no doubt a lot of people would find the interface just as user friendly.
The other factor is the Apple effect - people feel that Apple has a brand value akin to Richard Branson's woolly jumpers - all cuddly and vaguely environmental/hippy chic. I prefer to be apart from the crowds, not queueing to buy on the basis of marketing hype.
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"marketing hype" something Apple Computers are very good at G
Of the bat:
-The show looks cheesy as ****, something apple users tend to like!
-The 60 year old host, talking bout technology? Not good! (no harm intended to any 60 year old member in the forum)
And Ill always do this on any thread that contains the words FruityPhone:
FruitPhone SUCKS!!!!
Remeber, second best they are.
the show is usually quite good, but after watching this they did not give the htc a proper review. I mean come on if you put a iphone in front of everyone they know what it is straight away! Seems like the Apple advertising is really sucessful.
I dont mind if our Diamond isnt as big as iphone to be honest.
After all do you want everyone to have the same phone as you! I call it a small prestige club and I am honored to have be in it.
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Of the bat:
-The show looks cheesy as ****, something apple users tend to like!
-The 60 year old host, talking bout technology? Not good! (no harm intended to any 60 year old member in the forum)
And Ill always do this on any thread that contains the words FruityPhone:
FruitPhone SUCKS!!!!
Remeber, second best they are.
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Could you possibly be any more offensive with your outdated and ageist remark?
He's not even 60.
Idiot.
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the show is usually quite good, but after watching this they did not give the htc a proper review. ......
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Did you watch the same show as me? I only saw the IPhone versus a Nokia....
I suppose you are right in a sense, they didn't give the HTC a proper review ... as they didnt have one!
I stopped watching the gadget show a few years ago because i get the feeling that they really dont know what they are talking about, the reveiws and tests that they do are completley stupid and of course they are given more money to say good things about certain products.
There was an episode i flicked onto the other month, and they had picked out a bunch of HD TV's an said they were gonna get the best experts in the country to give them a thouogh testing to see which one was the best! So they took them to the tech guys (pc worlds attempt at making ppl think that their getting good advice!) who stood about 2 foot away from the screens an said that none of them were particaully good and then said the most expencive one wa no good because it was a Plasma set and could suffer from screen burn!
In short the show is biased to whoever pays them the most money to give the best review!!!1!!!
Devs and droid lovers alike, I have just been informed that the iphone has an automatic. Start for your car app. I was doing one of my regular "android is taking oover the world" text messages to all my friends and someone responded with that... now of course I went to into the android os and the fact that its an open os and all that but needless to say, I was rocked. This will be the iphones trump if we don't do something fast. So dev, the android community is depending on you guys to study the application in question and then crush it! I know you guys can do it! Charge just as much as they do and put it on the market.. everyone will buy!
Long live ANDROID!
im not sure if its the same one but if you look in the best buy flyer it shows the viper alarm system can be bought on the iphone for $500 instead of buying the piece for your keys
I'm just gonna go ahead and say it.
This is a stupid ****ing idea.
The Android OS isn't as clean or as slick as the Iphone or as responsive, and who cares.
I saw the commercial showcasing this, and it looks good, ON THE IPHONE.
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I'm just gonna go ahead and say it.
This is a stupid ****ing idea.
The Android OS isn't as clean or as slick as the Iphone or as responsive, and who cares.
I saw the commercial showcasing this, and it looks good, ON THE IPHONE.
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Haha I agree. Who gives a **** what the iPhone can do. We may not all like
the iPhone, but since when is this a competition?
First off you have to have something in your car for your phone to talk with. I don't plan on installing a Blue tooth gizmo so I can start my car when my car keys work just fine. Oh I do have remote start on my keys so it kinda defeats the need for an iPhone or Android version. Heck I don't even use the remote start half the time unless its really really cold outside.
As for the competition between iPhone and Android. I made my decision the day I bought my G1.
I wanna use my g1's poor accelerometer to steer my car!
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I wanna use my g1's poor accelerometer to steer my car!
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Yeah...and use the barcode scanner to scan the QR code on the cop's ticket so I don't need the paper copy. The ticket I got for mowing down the guy standing on the sidewalk, starting his car with his iPhone. Applesauce all over my metal-alloy valve stem caps.
wow
For all those who say when did this become a competition I ask this question.... when you bought your g1 did you do any research at all or did you just get the coolest looking new phone you could buy, or did you let some t-mobile rep who barely know what they're talking about sucker you into buying the newest phone so they could get a cut. For the somewhat smart people out there who do research before they make a large investment or sign 2 years of a portion of their income away, when you bought the G1 you (in some way,shape, or form) said I'm smarter that everyone who has the iphone. You said "I don't care about at&t's superior network, I don't care about the iphone's superior hardware, the android OS is the best thing since slice bread and it trumps any of those other things. At the point you engaged in this competition. This is why cyanogen made this amazing ROM and one of his screen shots was of him talking to a buddy on gtalk telling him something like"the iphone will never be able do what we can do."..... now that we made that clear... if your a real dev out there and you know what I'm talking about I just want to let you know I appreciate you, even if nobody else does, I do! I mean that! Keep showing the world why the Android (open) OS is the best!
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For all those who say when did this become a competition I ask this question.... when you bought your g1 did you do any research at all or did you just get the coolest looking new phone you could buy, or did you let some t-mobile rep who barely know what they're talking about sucker you into buying the newest phone so they could get a cut. For the somewhat smart people out there who do research before they make a large investment or sign 2 years of a portion of their income away, when you bought the G1 you (in some way,shape, or form) said I'm smarter that everyone who has the iphone. You said "I don't care about at&t's superior network, I don't care about the iphone's superior hardware, the android OS is the best thing since slice bread and it trumps any of those other things. At the point you engaged in this competition. This is why cyanogen made this amazing ROM and one of his screen shots was of him talking to a buddy on gtalk telling him something like"the iphone will never be able do what we can do."..... now that we made that clear... if your a real dev out there and you know what I'm talking about I just want to let you know I appreciate you, even if nobody else does, I do! I mean that! Keep showing the world why the Android (open) OS is the best!
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I thought our trump was the source code, let's see them come back at you with that. At&t's superior network?! All of my friends iPhones drop calls every day!
The point is that its a competition...not what the trump is...i just want to provoke anyone who up for the comp to step up!
I personally would never want to use my phone for this.. it provides too many possibilities of disaster. If you have a Bluetooth device in your car running someone will hack it sooner or later.
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I personally would never want to use my phone for this.. it provides too many possibilities of disaster. If you have a Bluetooth device in your car running someone will hack it sooner or later.
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totally it will be like the ability to crack WEP haha
This does NOT run off bluetooth for one. There is essentially another cellular phone in the vehicle that receives a handshake through the SMS system.
This is OLD OLD OLD OLD news and has been done before
http://www.sentinelcaralarms.com/
Go put that system in and you can control it from your Cell, your house, your aunt's brother's cousin's boyfriend's sister.
Seeing as that is run off DTMF, I am sure someone could toss an app together with a macro to do certain functions automatically through a GUI
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Yeah...and use the barcode scanner to scan the QR code on the cop's ticket so I don't need the paper copy. The ticket I got for mowing down the guy standing on the sidewalk, starting his car with his iPhone. Applesauce all over my metal-alloy valve stem caps.
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Ahahahahaha nice!
XP
Could you imagine
My g1 auto starting my 91 Toyota AWD 5 speed? hahahaha
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For all those who say when did this become a competition I ask this question.... when you bought your g1 did you do any research at all or did you just get the coolest looking new phone you could buy, or did you let some t-mobile rep who barely know what they're talking about sucker you into buying the newest phone so they could get a cut. For the somewhat smart people out there who do research before they make a large investment or sign 2 years of a portion of their income away, when you bought the G1 you (in some way,shape, or form) said I'm smarter that everyone who has the iphone. You said "I don't care about at&t's superior network, I don't care about the iphone's superior hardware, the android OS is the best thing since slice bread and it trumps any of those other things. At the point you engaged in this competition. This is why cyanogen made this amazing ROM and one of his screen shots was of him talking to a buddy on gtalk telling him something like"the iphone will never be able do what we can do."..... now that we made that clear... if your a real dev out there and you know what I'm talking about I just want to let you know I appreciate you, even if nobody else does, I do! I mean that! Keep showing the world why the Android (open) OS is the best!
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Sorry to be off topic but this post is slightly ridiculous. Yes, I knew what I was getting into when I bought a G1. And I would say my decision was also slightly based on the fact that I was already in a contract with T-Mobile. BUT the reason I chose android was not because it was BETTER than the iPhone. In fact, I never even compared it to the iPhone. But that's kind of irrelevant.
The point I want to make is that devs aren't cooking ROMs to compete with the iPhone. In fact, I would go as far as to say that there's not a single dev on this forum that is trying to compete with iPhone. Sure, maybe some of them think android is superior in some way, and maybe they think android will triumph in the smartphone market eventually, but they aren't android devs because they want to be iPhone killers
Is it just me, or is this new windows 7 ugly as hell? With all the fuss being made about it, how they kept pushing back the release date, I expected MS to change the game. Basically all theyre giving us is a glorified integrated Mortscripts on a basic looking interface. Just because they spin a couple menus around when you press them doesnt make it high tech.
I presume you mean windows phone 7 based on the content.
I'm pretty certain, call me crazy, that windows phone 7 contains more then just a set of ui changes uses the tiles. I'm counting on a lot of features, and stable integration against my other Microsoft products?
I'm sure if you post this thread in the Windows Phone Section you may get a better reply for that.
And to answer your question - It is different, I am undecided if I am one for the tiles or not, but I can see it as something I would get used to and be able to quickly utilise. I mean, why else would people have made an app made to look like it for android, or why else would there be a winmo app out for the home screen. I'm sure some people like it, alot! I personally am looking forward to see what Microsoft have done for Windows Phone 7.
And if you mean windows 7, pc, I think that it kicks ass.....
Dont get me wrong,I'll always be a windows man,but Ive been coming here since 2004,yet nothing had our geeky mouths watering like the prospect of a completely revamped OS.Even if WM7 makes its official entrance,I think I'll stick around for an HTC mod like TouchFlo or something.
Also,I posted it on this forum so I wouldnt come across as one of those kiljoys that ruin perfectly good threads.
LOL, yeah, i do not what you mean, After I posted I did wonder if there would be a fair bit of flaming/arguing! I only suggested it for more a detailed response to the theming and stuff microsoft are throwing on, but then again, I do not doubt that you have already been watching that section.
I'm not sure how much HTC are allowed to skin the tiles/remove the tiles. At one point it was only meant to be a certain number of tiles allowed to be changed by the operator (I think, I concede I may be wrong though).
But then from reading pocket lint, it looks as though HTC have come up with this which to me looks pretty sweet to be honest. Nice simple and basic.
I am seriously thinking of getting one of the new HTC devices when it comes to contract renewal and seeing how I go with it for the first few days and see what my carrier will be willing to do for me.
I like WP7, but not the home screen. That title thing is ugly and whats with the wasted space on the top and right side? Just doesn't make sense.
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LOL, yeah, i do not what you mean, After I posted I did wonder if there would be a fair bit of flaming/arguing! I only suggested it for more a detailed response to the theming and stuff microsoft are throwing on, but then again, I do not doubt that you have already been watching that section.
I'm not sure how much HTC are allowed to skin the tiles/remove the tiles. At one point it was only meant to be a certain number of tiles allowed to be changed by the operator (I think, I concede I may be wrong though).
But then from reading pocket lint, it looks as though HTC have come up with this which to me looks pretty sweet to be honest. Nice simple and basic.
I am seriously thinking of getting one of the new HTC devices when it comes to contract renewal and seeing how I go with it for the first few days and see what my carrier will be willing to do for me.
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Now thats what Im talking about.HTC has rescued windows a lot of times from being obliterated by prettyfied devices like iPhone(HTC Cube,HTC Home,Manila,etc). Apple has proven many times that people care more about looks than functionality.
It does look a bit boring but 1+ would be that it is able to daulboot opensource os's Anyone know if bada is open source
MacaronyMax said:
It does look a bit boring but 1+ would be that it is able to daulboot opensource os's Anyone know if bada is open source
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lol i don't know anything about bada but its probably a lot better than WP7 will be.
flyboyovyick said:
lol i don't know anything about bada but its probably a lot better than WP7 will be.
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Checked out the bada(bing) screenshots.Dont hear any talk about business functionality. Sad. But on that dualboot tip,Ive been toying with the idea of Linux for a while...
Vukile said:
Checked out the bada(bing) screenshots.Dont hear any talk about business functionality. Sad. But on that dualboot tip,Ive been toying with the idea of Linux for a while...
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Oh i hate it. Android FTW!!!
flyboyovyick said:
Oh i hate it. Android FTW!!!
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its no wonder android is taking up so much real estate in the OS market. what's up with this TouchXperience? Looks like it's setting up to monetise. Would have been nice to have... It looks like we'll be paying for everything soon, even themes. How nostalgic.
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its no wonder android is taking up so much real estate in the OS market. what's up with this TouchXperience? Looks like it's setting up to monetise. Would have been nice to have... It looks like we'll be paying for everything soon, even themes. How nostalgic.
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Makes you sad, doesn't it.
I remember the days when I used to develop themes for SE phones. ahhh those were the days
Hey apple realeased a phone with an ugly boring disorganised interface and people lapped it up. Cant blame microsoft for wanting to dip their bucket into this well of stupidity.
hungry81 said:
Hey apple realeased a phone with an ugly boring disorganised interface and people lapped it up. Cant blame microsoft for wanting to dip their bucket into this well of stupidity.
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It's like that old fairytale about the Emperor's Clothes. Always wondered what that was about...