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Pin out for the Mini-USB.

Does anyone know or have the pin out for the Mini-USB port on our kaisers? I'm looking to make a serial adapter(rs232). Thanks.

Here you go..

RemE said:
Here you go..
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Nice! Thanks!!!!

wow sorry dono how i did that wrong thread

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wow sorry dono how i did that wrong thread
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Did what? Just trying to get up to your senior membership?

That is actually for the TyTn, not the TyTnII (Kaiser). I think the audio is different on the Kaiser than it was on the TyTn(8525)

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That is actually for the TyTn, not the TyTnII (Kaiser). I think the audio is different on the Kaiser than it was on the TyTn(8525)
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I'm just looking for a way to put a rs232 adapter on it. I don't think I can.....

Pinout is the same for both TyTn and TyTn II mini-usb ports.
Serial adapters typically connect to a HOST USB port and provide serial services to a client. These phones only have a client port and can not provide serial port services to the best of my knowledge.

liquidsilver said:
Pinout is the same for both TyTn and TyTn II mini-usb ports.
Serial adapters typically connect to a HOST USB port and provide serial services to a client. These phones only have a client port and can not provide serial port services to the best of my knowledge.
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From what I've been able to find from many calls to HTC and internet searching, these phones have a serial port via the Mini-USB which has a host. The USB does not. It only has a client controller.

Macgyvec3 said:
From what I've been able to find from many calls to HTC and internet searching, these phones have a serial port via the Mini-USB which has a host. The USB does not. It only has a client controller.
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Wow. That makes my head a splode.
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There's a Serial Port via The Mini-USB connection? So like a Serial Bus Controller. I'm a little confused by that statement.

There is only one USB port on these phones. It is a mini-usb and is a client only. There are no host functions.
I'll go out on a limb here and say that somebody is confused. USB is an advanced Serial Port technology. I believe you are looking for an RS-232C compatible port. This can be emulated by using a port converter connected to a USB Host port. The USB port on the TYTN and TYTNII is not a Host port. It cannot control other devices. It's designed to be controlled by other devices and that's why is considered USB Client port.
I think HTC is telling you there's a serial port and they're correct. It's called a USB Client. You won't find an RS232C compliant port in there. Trust me, you don't want to go to the expense of converting a client port to an RS232C port. You'd have to create an host, provide the drivers for the service you're looking for, and then translate that to RS232 logic. Essentially, you'd be creating a small specialized upstream computer.

external cam
I want to attach an external, small camera to the 8525's usb port. Possible? Anyone know of an existing cam and software?

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I want to attach an external, small camera to the 8525's usb port. Possible? Anyone know of an existing cam and software?
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You can't. The usb on our phones is a client. Your camera, usb drive etc are also clients. Your computer is a host. You must connect a client to a host. Not a client to a client. If there was a bluetooth camera or something you could do that. So long as there is software for it.

[Q] USB accessories yes and no

Based on my experience, the following work:
generic USB keyboard
Logitech DiNovo Mini with included adapter
USB flash drive up to 32GB
some card readers except sandisk mobilemate (only takes one card at time)
The following doesn't work:
sandisk mobilemate (microsd/m2)
USB speaker (but you can supply power through USB host and connect through regular audio connection)
You can add your experience below.

USB Devices
plugged a CyberPower 4 port USB hub into usb port then plugged 2 Lexar 4gb drives in and it was able to see both drive and play movies from them.

USB Keyboard?
I have tried connecting a USB keyboard with no luck. Is this because of the type of port on the A7?

tested
No problem with Microsoft keyboards.
generic mouse half works.... since there is no pointer I can not tell if I'm pointing at something. The scroll wheel does work.
Gravies Gamepad Pro does not work.

I bought a off brand Wii remote to use as a controller for the a7 but it seems i need a Name brand remote... bummer huh? Anyone know of a fix for this?

USB Keyboard
I connected a wireless keyboard and was able to type in appropriate areas, however when I was navigating I could change the focused item but could not find a way to select a given item without actually touching the screen.
Has anyone discovered a way to accomplish this function?

Case with keyboard not working
I bought a case off Ebay. When I plug it into the Elocity A7, nothing happens. When I plug it into a WinXP PC, it detects the keyboard and it functions fine. Could this be a driver issue and if so where is a good place to find Android Drivers? I'm new to Android so please go easy on me

My favorite keyboard the happy hacking pro 2 works just fine
Sent from my Elocity A7 using Tapatalk

HP Photosmart camera works fine. In the cameras options set USB mode to disk and it will read as a standard thumb drive.

This tablet is on sale right now
Does anyone know if I can connect my Western Digital 1TB Passport USB HDD to it? Or will I need to get a powered USB hub? I'm trying not to spend money on getting an Archos 101 (which apparently has the juice to power up a WD 1TB HDD). I primarily need a tablet for a media player in my vehicle, nothing else.. maybe have a shopping list on it for when I go grocery shopping?
So ya... can A7 handle 1TB external usb hard drive specifically: Western Digital My passport.
Edit: The A7 would be powered via cigarette lighter by the way.. it's not going to power my external hdd through battery, that's just silly.

Generc dell keybard works. Pelican afterglow ps3 controller does not.
Sandisk cruzer 4 gb usb drive works. Verbatim 2tb hdd causes reboot and white screen
Running Elocitymod 1.3

A7 accepts USB up to 64 GB. Maybe you can partition off 64 GB on your Passport??

Has anyone come across a bluetooth gamepad that works well with this tablet? I'm hoping to purchase something small and reasonably priced and use it to play a few old school classics via different emulators. Will a Wii remote work?

Connected a mini bluetooth keyboard without any problem,and im using a leather keyboard case without problems as well.
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Wii remotes do not work on the A7, sadly. I've tried all the pairing apps, they all either force close or immediately unpair when attempting to pair. I don't know enough about the issue to say if the problem is hardware (or lack thereof) related or software related so someone smarter than me will have to let us know if it will ever be possible.
On a side note to contribute to this conversation, I tried an HP USB keyboard and it works fine.
pejker said:
Has anyone come across a bluetooth gamepad that works well with this tablet? I'm hoping to purchase something small and reasonably priced and use it to play a few old school classics via different emulators. Will a Wii remote work?
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Thanks for the info...i just tried to pair the Wiimote and got the same results you did; I'm currently using Dexter's latest ROM. Using the touchscreen is horrendous even if elocity had multi-touch.

rwood56847 said:
I bought a case off Ebay. When I plug it into the Elocity A7, nothing happens. When I plug it into a WinXP PC, it detects the keyboard and it functions fine. Could this be a driver issue and if so where is a good place to find Android Drivers? I'm new to Android so please go easy on me
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Good news - bad news. I also bought a keyboard on ebay and got it to work. I had a hunch that the power supplied by the USB port on the elocity was marginal. I connected the keyboard through a powered USB hub and...it works. If the power supplied by the A7 is marginal, that would explain why some devices work and others don't and why the ebay keyboard worked for one but wouldn't work for others.
This could be confirmed by cutting up a USB cable and measuring the voltage and current supplied to the keyboard from the A7 and comparing it with a PC or powered hub. I didn't have the time or inclination to do that.
Unfortunately, this makes the case with keyboard a kludge, because you will need a powered hub to get it to work.

Not all the cases with keyboard have required something else in order for them to work sounds like a roll of the device to me lol.

Yeah, mine works fine.

USB Keyboard Works Great on the A7
I found this to USB Keyboard to work great with the elocity A7

[Q] USB Keyboard and mouse

Besides a usb a to micro b adapter what else is needed to use a usb keyboard & mouse with the NC? I am running Cyanogen nightly build. Do you need a specific keyboard/mouse, or a powered hub?

I've used both a standard USB keyboard and mouse separately using just a microUSB mail to USB female adapter. You'll probably need a hub if you want to use both together, I'm not sure if you'd need a powered one or not.

I purchased an adapter and tried a usb keyboard and it didn't work. Turned off the NC keyboard in languages & keyboard and still no luck.

Do you have a link to the adapter? I used one like this... http://www.amazon.com/USB-Micro-Fem...TRUO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1318945342&sr=8-1
and a standard HP usb keyboard I had laying around as well as a Dell usb mouse. It's been a while, but I think it just worked without having to do anything else. You may try using Null Keyboard from the Market.
Also, I believe I did first enable USB Host mode with either the Nook Tweaks or Nook Odds and Ends app (can find Nook Tweaks in the Market, or the Odds and Ends app here on xda)

Here is the one I bought.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005GI2VMG
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Ok got it working now I forgot to go into Nook Tweaks and set the USB setting to Host Mode
I am running a Microsoft 800 Wireless keyboard and mouse on it at the moment. Works great. Tried to read a 4gb thumb drive but it wouldn't recognize it unless I used it through a powered hub.

If a keyboard works has any one tried a game controller.

The USB OTG Cable posted above works well. I've successfully connected a mouse, keyboard in CM 7.2 and those and game controller in CM 9.

Cunorix said:
The USB OTG Cable posted above works well. I've successfully connected a mouse, keyboard in CM 7.2 and those and game controller in CM 9.
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Has anyone had any luck getting a USB dvice to work in CM10?

Have you checked out the CM10 Alpha 1 forum?
Might be something there.

I just bought a keyboard/case usb with a wireless mouse off of ebay and a 4 port hub and using nook tweeks can run them both without external power. I bought the case for a 10" screen display and it lets me mount my nook with the otter box on. http://www.ebay.com/itm/350627696740?ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1436.l2649

MHL, OTG and Charging 5-in-1 kit

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I have the following setup:
- a Samsung Note II N7100, model SGH-i317M
- a HDTV Adapter MHL and OTG Card Reader (which came in a green box)
- a mini USB hub or splitter ( the peanut)
- a USB wired keyboard via a blue USB extension cord (about 2 meters long)
- a Apple wired mouse (in white)
- a Verbatim USB 2.0 thumb drive (32 GB), White and Green
- a 5.0V charger providing 2.0A of current to the HDTV adapter. (the charger is not shown in the photo)
I have a HTML cable connected to a 24-inch TV. The HTML connection works flawlessly. Sounds and audio are all fine on the TV. The MHL connection works great.
The Samsung Note II appeared to be charged by the Adapter (albeit rather slowly).
The problem is with the OTG USB connections. I believe the USB devices are receiving power. The mouse has a red beam of light underneath it. However, the mouse and keyboard are non-responsive for at least half an hour when i first connect to them. The cap-lock LED light on the keyboard would not come on when i pressed it. The mouse is totally non-responsive even though there is a red beam of light underneath it. The Samsung device does not recogize any of the USB devices: mouse, keyboard or thumb drive; well at least not initially.
But after about 30 to 45 mins of plugging all the mouse and keyboard to the setup, however, everything starts to work. Suddenly "Mouse connected" "Keyboard connected" appear on the Samsung notification. The USB thumb drive is also recogized too!! Mouse and keyboard all worked!!
I am so confused. Why do I need to wait for so long for things to work.
Maybe I missed something? What should I do? thanks.
I tried skipping the USB splitter/hub and instead plug the mouse or keyboard directly to the adaptor. It's the same. Has to wait about 30 to 45 minutes.
I also tried changing the USB Charger from 2.0 A to 1.5A. It's the same. No change in behaviour.
Maybe the sequence of which I plug the devices is important?
Please help. Thanks.

hello!
OTG trying to connect first and then MHL or change charger

Hey there.
I was trying to use a similar connection for a S4 with a broken and inactive screen. The HDMI and the USB mouse didn't work simultaneously all the time unless I connected it in a certain order (which I can't remember now). separately each worked great. In addition the charging was slower than discharge. My thought was that the charger had not supply enough power to charge up the device and supply enough power for HDMI and USB connections.
Did you find a workaround?

USB keyboard, mouse and charging together?

I would like to connect USB device like keybord and mouse to 5X and with Chromecast use it like "energency laptop" but I need to charge it in the same time. Is it possible?
I tried conventional USB2.0 hub with usb-c to usb-a female adpater and it didnt work. Only one way keybord and mouse or charging.
I tried to buy usb-c small hub like this
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there is picture for usb-A socket and micro usb for charging but 5X can use it only one or other way not both way together.
Any hints for me? Thanks.

it's possible, i've made the same thing to use a cheap win tablet with broken screen to use it as a pc. Now i don't remember the order to plug cable and adaptartos. When i come back to home i will send a photo

But there is another problem in Nexus 5X, there are five optins like(I dont know exactly how it is in English)
Only charging
Charging another device
PTP(picture transfer)
MTP(media transfer)
MIDI
I think that I need combination of first and second and I do not know why....5X behave depending on what you select, if you select charging it do not connect USB device and if you select charging other device then 5X did not see the standard wall charger and works only USB device like keybord, etc.

Nobody? Any hints or comments?

im pretty sure this is a you can have your cake but cant eat it too. seems everyone would love to use USB OTG adapter and charge simulateously but its not possible on most devices.

I've been looking for the same, how can I connect a drive and/or Ethernet adapter and provide power as well?
There's some apparent bad news from Plugable on their 3-port USB hub with power pass-through:
The HUB3P will work with any USB-C host as a standard 3-port hub even if charging pass-through is not supported. As an example the hub works with the Google Nexus 5X Android phone for connecting multiple USB devices at the same time. We used the HUB3P in combination with a flash drive for data storage/transfer and our USB3-E1000 for Ethernet access. Please note if a charger is connected to the hub, the hub will not communicate with the phone for data transfer. This is because the phone can only charge or transfer data, it cannot support simultaneous charge and sync.
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As an upside, they do talk about and illustrate a "new mode" in the USB menu. "Power supply: Charge the other connected device" No idea if that works if it's a non-C device, like a flash drive, SSD, or Ethernet adapter.