What is the point of this device? - Touch Viva, MDA Basic General

I'll ask the question? Other than a marketing trick called "re-release", what is the point of this device? Its specs seem identical to the original Elfin. Please enlighten me.

no point at all.
except for maybe the look of the newest htc devices(Diamond,Raphael,S740)

elfin was't officially released in every country. In example here in Italy we don't ufficially had any "touchXL" (elfin), only generic "touch" that can be regular elf or elfin if you were lucky (or if you look for it by part number on box or turn on it, in fact i searched and found an elfin for myself )
so, this "new" device bring order in the chaos of world-wide mass market distribution

Hmm, that makes sense I guess. I certainly won't be getting one of those. Touch HD, here I come.

The Touch 3G (OPAL) has a better CPU more RAM and it's GPS enabled
Technical Details
• Processor
Qualcomm® MSM7225™, 528 MHz
• Operating System
Windows Mobile® 6.1 Professional
• Memory
ROM: 256 MB
RAM: 192 MB
• Display
2.8-inch TFT-LCD flat touch-sensitive screen with QVGA resolution
HTC TouchFLO™
4-Way navigation control with Enter button
• Network
HSDPA/WCDMA: Europe/Asia: 900/2100 MHz
Up to 384 kbps up-link and 7.2 Mbps down-link speeds
Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
(Band frequency and data speed are operator dependent)
• GPS
GPS and A-GPS ready
• Connectivity
Bluetooth® 2.0 with Enhanced Data Rate and A2DP for stereo wireless headsets
Wi-Fi®: IEEE 802.11 b/g
HTC ExtUSB™ (11-pin mini-USB 2.0 and audio jack in one)
• Camera
3.2 megapixel color camera with fixed focus
• Expansion Slot
microSD™ memory card (SD 2.0 compatible)
• Audio
Built-in microphone and speaker
Ring tone formats:
AAC, AAC+, eAAC+, AMR-NB, AMR-WB, QCP, MP3, WMA, WAV
40 polyphonic and standard MIDI format 0 and 1 (SMF)/SP MIDI
• Battery
Rechargeable Lithium-ion battery
Capacity: 1100 mAh
Talk time: Up to 360 minutes for WCDMA / Up to 400 minutes for GSM
Standby time: Up to 450 hours for WCDMA / Up to 365 hours for GSM
• Dimensions (LxWxT)
102 mm X 53.6 mm X 14.5 mm
• Weight
96 grams with battery
• AC Adapter
Voltage range/frequency: 100 ~ 240V AC, 50/60 Hz
DC output: 5V and 1A

The HTC Opal is not the HTC Touch 3G. The Opal is the same as the Eflin, only it has Manila interated, thats all.
Touch 3G (Jade) is much better!

bomo said:
The HTC Opal is not the HTC Touch 3G. The Opal is the same as the Eflin, only it has Manila interated, thats all.
Touch 3G (Jade) is much better!
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The point is obviously to be price competitive, and make a cheap low-range device.
With the recession going on it can only be a good idea, and shows HTC has been thinking ahead.
Surur

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Detailed Technical Specifications of HTC Touch Diamond (HTC Diamond 100)

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Detailed Technical Specifications of HTC Touch Diamond (HTC Diamond 100)
Brand:.HTC ​
Manufacturer: High Tech Computer ​
Project Codename: HTC Diamond 100 ​
Release Date:.June, 2008 ​
Physical Attributes
Dimensions
, (width x height x depth): 51 x 102 x 11.5 millimetres
2 x 4 x 0.5 inches
Bounding Volume:59.8 cubecentimetres
Mass: 110 grams (battery included)
Software Environment
Embedded Operating System: Microsoft Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional
Operating System Kernel: 5.2
Microprocessor, Chipset
CPU: Qualcomm MSM7201A
Width of Machine Word: 32 bit
CPU Clock: 528 MHz
CPU Core: ARM1136EJ-S
Instruction Set: ARMv6
Memory, Storage capacity
ROM type: Flash EEPROM
ROM capacity: 4352 MB
RAM type: DDR SDRAM
RAM capacity: 192 MB
Hard Disk capacity: Not supported
Graphical subsystem
Display Type: color transflective TFT
Display Color Depth: 16 bit/pixel (65536 scales)
Display Resolution: 480 x 640 (307200 pixel)
Display Diagonal: 2.8 " (72 millimetres)
Viewable Area: 1.7" x 2.3" (43.2 x 57.6 millimetres)
Dot Pitch: 0.09 millimetre/pixel
Audio Subsystem
Audio Channel(s): stereo sound
Analog/Digital Converter
(Recording): 16 bit quantization (nominal)
44100 Hz sampling frequency
Digital/Analog Converter
(Playing): 16 bit resolution
44100 Hz holding frequency
Microphone: mono
Speaker: 1 loudspeaker (mono)
Audio Output: Proprietary plug
Cellular Phone
Cellular Networks: GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS900, UMTS2100
Cellular Data Link: CSD, GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, HSDPA
Cellular Antenna: Internal
Call Alert: 40 -chord melody (polyphonic)
Vibrating Alert: Supported
Speakerphone : Supported
Phone Controller (DSP): Qualcomm MSM7201A (QDSP4000, QDSP5000)
Control Peripherals
Positioning Device: Touchscreen
Primary Keyboard: Not supported
Directional Pad: 5 -way directional block (including action button)
Scroll Wheel: Not supported
Interfaces
USB: USB 2.0 client, Hi-Speed (480Mbit/s)
USB Series Mini-B (mini-USB) connector
Infrared Gate: Not supported
Bluetooth (802.15): Bluetooth 2.0 + EDR , Internal antenna
Wireless LAN/Wi-Fi (802.11): 802.11b, 802.11g (54Mbit/s)
Internal antenna
Multimedia Telecommunication
Analog TV: Not supported
Analog Radio: FM radio reciever
Proprietary headset as antenna
Satellite Navigation (GPS)
GPS Protocol: NMEA 0183
GPS antenna: Internal antenna
GPS Chip: Qualcomm MSM7201A gpsOne
Built-in Digital Camera
Main Camera: CMOS sensor, 2048x1536 (3.146 million pixels)
Autofocus (AF): Supported
Optical Zoom: 1 x
Macro Mode: Not supported
Built-in Flash: Not supported
Recordable Image Formats: JPG, BMP
Camcorder: 320x240pixel , 30frame/sec
Recordable Video Formats: 3GPP, MPEG4, MJPG
Secondary Camera for Video Calling
Secondary Camera: CMOS sensor, 640x480 pixel
Recordable Image Formats: JPG
Camcorder: 320x240pixel
Recordable Video Formats: 3GPP, MPEG4
Power Supply
Battery: Lithium-ion polymer , removable
Battery Capacity: 900 mAh
Avarege Current: 129 mA
Estimated Battery Life: 7 hours
Additional Details
Additional Features: GPRS Class 10
A-GPS
HTC TouchFLO 3D (HTC Manila)
HTC VueFLO
Bluetooth stereo audio profile (A2DP)
RDS
what you say about diamond......​
New fashion blinky device that is for commercial users
Lack of memory card support and 3.5" VGA is a no go for me. But I have to recognize that the other specs makes one of the best pda phones of the market in conjunction with the price.
wow, nice phone, but battey life BLOWS!!!!! 7 hours??? are u kidding me? and if u were to use data or gps, you wouldnt even get half a day.
Dont think its for serious business users. More of an IPHONE competitor. I hate it but id take the new IPHONE over it...depending on performance of course.
No not an Iphone fanboy just looking at phoen purpose. The diamond appears to be iphone comp. Its missing the big ass screen. Why doesnt HTC just slap a big ass screen on a phone. On the diamond they could have gotten rid of a few buttons and made the screen larger.
When the F*** is HTC gonna deal with battery needs??!
n'uff said
theres is also 2G ONLY variant of HTC Touch Diamond released in India. Same, but no HSDPA/WCDMA at all. Pirce is much better though.
2G Only variant will be at least US$200.00 cheaper than 2G+3G variant and will be on sale in India at RRP US$640.00, while RRP for 2G/3G handset in Taiwan is set at US$855.00.
check this page for details ( specifications):
http://www.htc.com/in/product.aspx?id=48110
there is also an American Variant with 3G bands 850 / 2100 Mhz...
myv6mustang said:
Dont think its for serious business users. More of an IPHONE competitor. I hate it but id take the new IPHONE over it...depending on performance of course.
No not an Iphone fanboy just looking at phoen purpose. The diamond appears to be iphone comp. Its missing the big ass screen. Why doesnt HTC just slap a big ass screen on a phone. On the diamond they could have gotten rid of a few buttons and made the screen larger.
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One of the main points of the Touch Diamond is that it is considerably smaller and and thinner than the iPhone. I think the Touch Diamond is much more pocket-sized. A big screen would have made the phone bigger so, personally, I'm happy with the screen size.
I'm thinking of hacking that camera to see if I can get it to record VGA videos...That would be nice.
too kool said:
Memory, Storage capacity
ROM type: Flash EEPROM
ROM capacity: 4352 MB
RAM type: DDR SDRAM
RAM capacity: 192 MB
Hard Disk capacity: Not supported
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I guess:
ROM: 256 MB
Internal Memory : Samsung MoviNAND 4GB internal flash storage
(seems to me accessible without Activesync as an external memory drive )
what is the OS version ?
5.2.19900 ?
may i have a copy of the dumped rom?
I guess all the variants are there because HTC couldn’t get all the antennas in the same device due to size restrictions.
It’s clear to see that they are using the same PCB across all the variants, to keep costs down. One example of this is they have kept the forward facing camera for the 2G version, not necessary as you clearly won’t be doing video calling on that!
a shame it doesn't have a hardware-keyboard and a memory-slot
nice phone tough!!
A shame it doesn't have a keyboard? Are you mad?
It is a shame about the memory expansion problem though...
InjecTioN said:
a shame it doesn't have a hardware-keyboard and a memory-slot
nice phone tough!!
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I guess your options will be either the SonyEricsson Xperia X1 or the Touch Diamond Pro
no expansion slot!! man its bad
I keep asking this question:
What is the GSM radio firmware version for Diamond??
The CDMA version will be much better than this...
Arrh crap was really looking foward to this phone, Just found out it don't have a memory card slot, thats rubbish why why why

[For Sale] HTC Touch Diamond GSM UNLOCKED WWE + WM6.1 PRO + EXTRAS $350+shipping

Up for sale is a HTC Touch Diamond WWE (world wide edition, works in every country) that I bought. It has been gently used and has been well protected. This phone is very nice but I don't need all the features and I find that the touch screen is hard to type with my fat fingers so I will probably go for one with a real keyboard after selling this. I upgraded the internal software (windows) to version 6.1 professional and upgraded the radio rom to support 3G quadband. Beware of other scammers selling Touch Diamond J6, that is the Asian clone for the diamond! It doesn't include Wifi or GPS! This phone just came out a couple months ago so the warranty still applies.
Here's what you get (retail price):
~HTC TOUCH DIAMOND WWE GSM unlocked unbranded, model number P3700 DIAM100, with 900mAh battery, back cover, and stylus $599
~Set of HTC headphones
~USB cable
~Extended 1900mAh battery with cover (lasts about 3-4 days) $40
~wall charger
~battery charger $10(you can take the battery out and charge it if you dont want to hook up the phone, useful when you want to charge both of the batteries at the same time)
~3.5mm headphone adapter $10(if you dont like the htc headphones like me, you can use regular headphones
~ZAGG InvisibleShield applied $30 (best protection from scratching that money can buy, extremely hard to apply, took me half an hour)
~extra stylus
~original box
Extra softwares include (retail price):
~Android 0.8! (operating system used on the T-Mobile G1, photo included)
~TomTom 7 with North American maps $150
~SRS WOW HD $20
~Microsoft Voice Command $40 (reads out text msgs & calender events, enables voice dialing)
~Microsoft Office Mobile 2007
~CorePlayer $30 (best media player ever made for Windows Mobile)
~Adobe Reader
~CE Star $45 (Chinese language typing software)
~Diamond Beer (looks like the one for iphone, photo included)
~Google Maps with GPS
~LightSaber (similar to iphone)
~MDict Mobile Dictionary with Chinese to English, English to Chinese, English to English, English to Spanish, and Spanish to English, and Wikipedia dictionaries installed
~WorldCard Mobile $25 (reads business cards into contacts)
~Warcraft II (yes, it runs the real WarCraft 2 created for PC, pic included)
~2GB of Hiphop, R&B, Alternative Rock and Chinese pop music
Phone Specifications and Description:
Overview :
Re-defining the perception of advanced mobile phones; the HTC Touch Diamond; signals a giant leap forward in combining hi-tech prowess with intuitive usability and exhilarating design. Featuring a sharp 2.8-inch touch screen housed within a stunning formation of brushed steel and flawless faceted edges, the HTC Touch Diamond is as beautiful to behold as it is to use. With HTCs vibrant touch-responsive user interface, TouchFLO; 3D, and ultra-fast HSDPA internet connectivity; the HTC Touch Diamond offers a rich online experience to rival a notebook computer, allowing you to interact with Google, YouTube, and Wikipedia as freely as you would with a broadband connection. Your contacts, favourite music, videos and photos are no longer an uninspired line of text. With TouchFLO 3D, album artwork, video stills and snapshots of your friends; and familys faces are brought to life for you to interact, play and launch at your fingertips. A 3.2 megapixel auto-focus camera will help you capture the perfect moment in style and with a massive 4GB of internal storage you can keep all the files you need. The integrated ultra-sensitive GPS will help you find your destination as quickly and efficiently as a dedicated satellite navigation unit. Style and substance in a phone are no longer mutually exclusive. The HTC Touch Diamond has arrived.
Highlights :
2.8-inch touch screen, with four times the pixels of most phones.
Vibrant TouchFLO 3D user interface, responding perfectly to your finger gestures when scrolling through contacts, browsing the web, and launching media; all vividly displayed as photos and artwork powered by the 3D graphics processor.
HTC Weather - providing a constant view of weather at home and abroad.
Surf and download at broadband speed with HSDPA internet connectivity.
3.2 megapixel auto-focus camera for quality stills and video.
Secondary VGA camera for videocalling.
4GB of internal storage to preserve more photos, music, files and exchanged data than ever before.
Integrated GPS for use with maps software for a full turn-by-turn satellite navigation experience.
Specifications :
Processor: Qualcomm® MSM7201A, 528MHz
Operating System: Windows Mobile® 6.1 Professional
Memory: ROM: 256MB RAM: 192MB DDR RAM Flash:4GB
Dimensions: 102 mm (L) X 51 mm (W) X 11.5 mm (T)
Weight: 110g with battery
Display: 2.8-inch VGA touch screen 640 X 480 dots resolution with 65,536 colors
Network: WCDMA/HSDPA: 900/2100 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 900/1800/1900 MHz (The device will operate on frequencies available from the cellular network.)
Device Control: 5-way navigation control / Jog wheel
Interface: HTC ExtUSB; (11-pin mini-USB and audio jack in one; USB 2.0 Full-speed)
TouchFLO 3D
Connectivity: Bluetooth® 2.1 with EDR Wi-Fi®: IEEE 802.11 b/g GPS & AGPS antenna connector
Camera: 3.2 megapixel CMOS color with auto focus
Audio: Built-in microphone and speaker Ring tone supported formats: MP3, AAC, AAC+, WMA, WAV, and AMR-NB
Battery: 900 mAh mAh rechargeable Li-polymer battery Standby time: Up to 396 hours for WCDMA Up to 285 hours for GSM
Talk time: Up to 270 minutes for WCDMA Up to 330 minutes for GSM
Expansion Slot: None
AC Adapter: Voltage range/frequency: 100 240V AC, 50/60Hz DC output: 5V and 1A
Anyone who is interested can just PM me, I know it's not very secure to go through and buy an item from a forum member but if you want, we can go through eBay and PayPal (you pay the fees). The reason I've posted here is because I've been left with non-payers on eBay twice already (I can send you links to prove it if you want). It costed me about $30 for listing and whatever other fees so I'm a little annoyed. My eBay username is untrueparadox and my ExtremeOverclocking username is untrueparado (has a positive iTrader of 3). I'm from Los Angeles, CA in the USA, Zip Code 91006 if you want to quote for shipping (5 lb probably) or local pickup is also possible. I am asking for $350 because the highest price that went for was $400 for it shipped on eBay. Price is not set in stone and I will be flexible if nobody wants it.
pictures:
http://www.auctiva.com/hostedimages...,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0&format=0
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this for is not here to sell thing on.
please try ebay or some other site.
thank you

New HTC touch HD (blackstone)!!!

Hello!
The new HTC Touch HD with W6.5 here:
http://www.htc.com/www/press_product_info.aspx?p_id=291
Anyone with a custom ROM like?
its not new hd....... its new touch !
mine is better!wvga and new is qvga!
Model HTC Touch2 (T3333)
Processor Qualcomm® MSM7225™, 528 MHz
Operating System Windows Mobile® 6.5 Professional
Memory ROM: 512 MB
RAM: 256 MB
Dimensions (LxWxT) 104 X 55 X 12.9 mm (4.1 X 2.16 X 0.51 inches)
Weight 110 grams (4 ounces) with battery
Display 2.8-inch TFT-LCD touch-sensitive screen with QVGA resolution
Network HSPA/WCDMA:
*
Europe/Asia: 900/2100 MHz
*
Up to 384 kbps up-link and 7.2 Mbps down-link speeds
Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
*
Europe/Asia: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
(Band frequency and data speed are operator dependent.)
Device Control Zoom bar
GPS Internal GPS antenna
Connectivity Bluetooth® 2.1 with Enhanced Data Rate and A2DP for wireless stereo headsets
Wi-Fi®: IEEE 802.11 b/g
3.5 mm audio jack
HTC ExtUSB™ (11-pin mini-USB 2.0)
Camera 3.2 megapixel color camera with fixed focus
Audio supported formats AAC, AAC+, eAAC+, AMR-NB, QCP, MP3, WMA, WAV, MIDI, M4A
Video supported formats WMV, ASF, MP4, 3GP, 3G2, M4V, AVI
Battery Rechargeable Lithium-ion battery
Capacity: 1100 mAh
Talk time:
*
Up to 370 minutes for WCDMA
*
Up to 440 minutes for GSM
Standby time:
*
Up to 500 hours for WCDMA
*
Up to 370 hours for GSM
(The above are subject to network and phone usage.)
Expansion Slot microSD™ memory card (SD 2.0 compatible)
AC Adapter Voltage range/frequency: 100 ~ 240V AC, 50/60 Hz
DC output: 5V and 1A
Similar thread was created in general forum which I closed as this is not the new Touch HD......and it also has nothing to do with rom development so shouldn't be in this forum
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Touch 2

http://www.htc.com/europe/product/touch2/product-tour.html
Model HTC Touch2 (T3333)
Processor Qualcomm® MSM7225™, 528 MHz
Operating System Windows Mobile® 6.5 Professional
Memory ROM: 512 MB
RAM: 256 MB
Dimensions (LxWxT) 104 X 55 X 12.9 mm (4.1 X 2.16 X 0.51 inches)
Weight 110 grams (4 ounces) with battery
Display 2.8-inch TFT-LCD touch-sensitive screen with QVGA resolution
Network HSPA/WCDMA:
•Europe/Asia: 900/2100 MHz
•Up to 384 kbps up-link and 7.2 Mbps down-link speeds
Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
•Europe/Asia: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
(Band frequency and data speed are operator dependent.)
Device Control Zoom bar
GPS Internal GPS antenna
Connectivity Bluetooth® 2.1 with Enhanced Data Rate and A2DP for wireless stereo headsets
Wi-Fi®: IEEE 802.11 b/g
3.5 mm audio jack
HTC ExtUSB™ (11-pin mini-USB 2.0)
Camera 3.2 megapixel color camera with fixed focus
Audio supported formats AAC, AAC+, eAAC+, AMR-NB, QCP, MP3, WMA, WAV, MIDI, M4A
Video supported formats WMV, ASF, MP4, 3GP, 3G2, M4V, AVI
Battery Rechargeable Lithium-ion battery
Capacity: 1100 mAh
Talk time:
•Up to 370 minutes for WCDMA
•Up to 440 minutes for GSM
Standby time:
•Up to 500 hours for WCDMA
•Up to 370 hours for GSM
(The above are subject to network and phone usage.)
Expansion Slot microSD™ memory card (SD 2.0 compatible)
AC Adapter Voltage range/frequency: 100 ~ 240V AC, 50/60 Hz
DC output: 5V and 1A
Already been posted today It's a low end phone, just looks like hd HTC Mega
I just wanted to let you know
Regards,
Me

Help to Replace OS Version: Windows CE 6.0 with Android on a car stereo

Hi I basically bought a Car DvD player with a flip out display and it runs on OS Version: Windows CE 6.0 which is basically crap never done it before the specs are below
Manufacturer Specifications
General
DIN Size: 1 DIN
Max Audio Output: 45Wx4
Signal-to-Noise Ratio (SNR): >55dB
User Adjustable EQ: Bass, Treble, Balance, and Fade
Video Systems: PAL, NTSC, SECAM, AUTO
Bluetooth
RDS System
AM Frequency Range: 522 to 1710KHz
FM Tuning Range: 87.5 to 108.0MHz
Language: German, English, Spanish, French, Italian, Portuguese, Arabic, Chinese (Traditional), Chinese (Simplified), Russian, Japanese
Operating System
OS Version: Windows CE 6.0
CPU: AT8401
Processor Speed (max): 500MHz
RAM: 128MB
GPS
Receiver Module: SiRF
Frequency: 1.575.42GHz
C/A Code: 1.023 MHz
Signal Channels: 20
Tracking Sensitivity: -159dBm
Position Sensitivity: 5.0m CEP
Speed Rate: 0.1m/s
Data Update Rate: 1HZ
Recapture Time: Average 0.1s
Hot Start Up Time: Average 3s
Warm Start Up Time: Average 32s
Cold Start Up Time: Average 35s
Maximum Position Altitude: 18000M
Maximum Speed Rate: 500m/s
Built-In Antenna Type: External power source porcelain antenna
Built-In Antenna Voltage: 3.3V+/-5%
Built-In Antenna Current: 15mA
Built-In Antenna Gain: 27dB
Interface: Touch screen
GUI interface: 3D Type
Maps: Via SD Card
Display
Screen Size: 7 Inch
Resolution: 800x480
Tilt Angle: 0-90 Degrees (Motorized)
Display: 16:9
Resistive Touch Screen
Memory
Internal: 256MB
Micro SD Card up to 32GB
Media Formats:
Video: MP4, 3GP
Audio: MP3, WMA
Picture: JPG
eBook: TXT
Discs: DVD, CD, VCD, SVCD
Ports
Micro SD Card Slot (Media)
Micro SD Card Slot (GPS)
DVD Disc Slot
Reset
Power
GPS
2x USB
SWC
ACC
ILL Recerse
Brake
AV IN PUT
AV OUT PUT
MIC
Sorry, no OS replacement possible, complete incompatibility.
For example, have you seen the amount of installed RAM memory? How could Android be run on a 128 MB RAM device?
Anyway, you can use that car stereo with some of the best navigation softwares: iGo and TomTom.
Thank you for taking time and helping appreciated I guess I gotta live with it
And above all, the microphone for the bluetooth hands free works nicely on those chinese units!
Purchase another player with android, you can get a decent one for 100 usd
bouyhy01 said:
Purchase another player with android, you can get a decent one for 100 usd
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7 year thread revival, was it necessary
marchnz said:
7 year thread revival, was it necessary
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lol never lose hopoe

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