I have been using the Manilla Touch Flo 2D interface on my Tilt. When I first installed it (about a month ago) I absolutely loved it. I have installed several different themes, and it's pretty nice to look at.
However, I just can't stand the fact that it doesn't support landscape. Let's face it, the big attraction that lead most of us to purchase our Tilts (Kaisers, whatever) is the fact that it has a keyboard (or a tilting screen, which isn't possible without the keyboard slid out). So the fact that TF2D doesn't support landscare is extremely limiting.
Not to mention it's kind of buggy, and sluggish. But the lack of landscape support is really proving to be the deal breaker for me. I use my device in landscape mode more than portrait mode.
So what do you guys think is a good alternative for me? I used SPB Mobile Shell a few years ago on my PPC-6700 when mobile Shell was first released (I'm sure there is a new and better version of it out now, I used the very first version), and it was okay. How is it now? Or is there anything else?
I'm hoping to have something finger friendly, works in landscape, doesn't bog the device down (sluggish), and maybe even something that allows custom skins.
I see the hackers are working on porting TF3D, and it supports landscape. But it is early on in the porting process, and still sluggish and buggy. Is there a finished product yet that can compete?
Mobile shell has come leaps and bounds in the last 2 versions. When 2.0 came out it was almost a copy of HTC home. A lot of people prefer HTC home anyway. Before M2D I used mobile shell. As soon as T3D is functional I will be headed that direction. The graphics are amazing.
As i don't use the htc audio manager / picture viewer, manila tf2d makes no sense for me. I use Pointui with a custom made xml. works perfectly (well, nearly )
landscape is fixed by Mbarvian, it's not the fasted way but it's working.
also on the PDAcornerUltimate V5 Landscape manilla2d is working with the tabs.
rohithathie said:
landscape is fixed by Mbarvian, it's not the fasted way but it's working.
also on the PDAcornerUltimate V5 Landscape manilla2d is working with the tabs.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Where is Manilla working with the tabs in landscape? Is it a skin I need to install or a new version of Manilla?
Try Throttle Launcher.
6666 said:
Try Throttle Launcher.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i 2nd that
mrphatpat said:
i 2nd that
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
x3!
It looks cool
I'll have to recommend PointUI 1.51a. In my experience, it's the smoothest running interface, and it replaces the rubbish WM task bar & ugly settings menu system (if you tell it to).
It works great in landscape and allows easy access to many functions. It takes minimal configuring, and looks all right. Not very customisable though, so if you like changing themes & tweaking etc, it may not be your favourite.
rohithathie said:
landscape is fixed by Mbarvian, it's not the fasted way but it's working.
also on the PDAcornerUltimate V5 Landscape manilla2d is working with the tabs.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
SaltyDawg said:
Where is Manilla working with the tabs in landscape? Is it a skin I need to install or a new version of Manilla?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
you really need to check it out, although I am still running V4 of PDAcornerUltimate after two weeks , it is a very stable rom, I have read that version 7 is out and is all so very fast and stable, well worth trying out...
(27 Oct 08) PDACornerUltimate.V7-20921|HTCCA D3D|M2D|New Improvements
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=428261
WAD for the win. By miles.
i used pointui for a while but the battery drain was unacceptable. if battery was not an issue pointui would be my choice. however, i use manila2d right now. spb pocket plus is useful and customizable, but doesnt have any flashy animations if that is what you are looking for.
rohithathie said:
landscape is fixed by Mbarvian, it's not the fasted way but it's working.
also on the PDAcornerUltimate V5 Landscape manilla2d is working with the tabs.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah I checked that out but it is really only the home and weather tabs that actually work in landscape...
Unless he has a newer version that isn't on the first page of the main Manilla skins thread.
Wlofea said:
WAD for the win. By miles.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i loved that, but it frooze too much
throttle launcher v9.6 should be out soon, i recommend using throttle launcher
Related
The new Verizon version of the TouchPro includes a theme that has a working TF3D interface in landscape mode. Archy over in the Diamond theme forums posted a copy of the theme that will run on Diamonds and TouchPros.
Here's his post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2914105&postcount=1321
This has mostly been mentioned in the Diamond forum but I just installed this theme on my Fuze and it works great. (And faster than most other themes I've tried...)
i just want the landscape tf not the entire theme. I hope some one can get just the landscape tf soon.
ptyindian said:
i just want the landscape tf not the entire theme. I hope some one can get soon.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, I tried pulling out the files to make just the landscape work but I didn't have any luck so I just installed the whole theme. I really like it so far...
is the landscape actually useful?
and do you install just like a normal theme
lbhocky19 said:
is the landscape actually useful?
and do you install just like a normal theme
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's useful for me because I have my keyboard open a lot so it's nice to have more options when it's in that mode.
And, yes, it's just like any other theme. I installed it using Diamond TF3D Config, restored the default theme and then installed it again all without any problems.
Landscape only files
folks,
a little farther in the thread...he points out what files are needed for the landscape only piece...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2923578&postcount=1347. you should be able to create a theme with just these files to load through diamond config...or of course use total commander. hope this helps.
ITNV said:
It's useful for me because I have my keyboard open a lot so it's nice to have more options when it's in that mode.
And, yes, it's just like any other theme. I installed it using Diamond TF3D Config, restored the default theme and then installed it again all without any problems.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
pmorganii said:
folks,
a little farther in the thread...he points out what files are needed for the landscape only piece...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2923578&postcount=1347. you should be able to create a theme with just these files to load through diamond config...or of course use total commander. hope this helps.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
A little farther still he says that just copying those files won't work. The files in that list are just the graphics files that are needed for landscape mode, not any of the Mode9 files which control the functionality.
its a step in the right direction.. but toooo much grey.
give me time and v7 of my flip clock theme will in clude landscape tf3d
There is a new WM6.5 build 23022 with new UI
Check this out!!!
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=6625
More Screen shots
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=6672
Video
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=6713
nice that they are making changes to it. hope its not just another skin modification or something
Hi
Aleluya,
it is your time to put the Ok button
down, it's easier .....
Thank you for the info!
I don't like this new UI,top and bot bars are increased and for Manila this is not a good things,HTC Task Manager icon is covered from the clock,MS moved left softkey to the middle and this way home screen became ugly...
I try this 23022 on my HD but i moved back to 23017 in 5 minutes...I hope MS will complete the new UI with a better look,IMHO,now,this is not the right way.
Which ROM base on Build 23022? i want to try
texture said:
I don't like this new UI,top and bot bars are increased and for Manila this is not a good things,HTC Task Manager icon is covered from the clock,MS moved left softkey to the middle and this way home screen became ugly...
I try this 23022 on my HD but i moved back to 23017 in 5 minutes...I hope MS will complete the new UI with a better look,IMHO,now,this is not the right way.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I can agree with you that it is not the prettiest of changes, however the fact that they are changing the UI proves that they have finally realized that the UI looks crap
Go here...at the end of the first post, there are 2 TEST versions
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=493911
Thanks for the ROM Miri
Is this build not stable yet? Why is it Test version?
Because of the graphic glitches. If you have time test it and you will see what's going to come
edwinlinkt said:
Thanks for the ROM Miri
Is this build not stable yet? Why is it Test version?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That looks nice OK button was always a big problem for me it's to small and it's too damn far away from the thumbs when you operate with one hand.It's not maybe the best solution but definetly an improvement I don't want to try it cause it's too early version but what happens to the task button? I see that the clock is there so it's removed ?
hey miri is it gonna be a non-manila v or we wait 4 a stable build coz this one seems nice alot visual changes
Nope, 23022 is not ready for daily usage, we have to wait a little more
sweet_eye_h said:
hey miri is it gonna be a non-manila v or we wait 4 a stable build coz this one seems nice alot visual changes
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
23022 and Manilla 2.5
Miri - I am big user of your Manilla 2.5 ROMs. Please share when you think you will drop a 23022 build combined with Manilla 2.5. Keep up the good work!
Now the important problem is manila 2.5 is not stable! not the WM6.5 if you dont use manila, you can enjoy the new version of WM.
But I think microsoft is not creative. HTC had made the WM more easy-operative and better apparence.
So, it is not microsoft but HTC which should optimize their work.
i really hate Window 6.5 UI. Just look and see at the home screen the top and bottom bar are transparent but when u go into setting or sms for example they turn into black. It's really baadddddddddddd . That's the reason why i choose to stay with 6.1 rom until now
mitut said:
i really hate Window 6.5 UI. Just look and see at the home screen the top and bottom bar are transparent but when u go into setting or sms for example they turn into black. It's really baadddddddddddd . That's the reason why i choose to stay with 6.1 rom until now
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Absolutely right
I really like the new WM6.5 UI. It is a definite improvement from WM6.1, despite the fact that I don't really like a 100% Touch interface. I like using my stylus too but this is in WM6.5 not an issue.
What I don't like is Manila. How can I disable it completely? I am not talking about Touch Flo but about Manila. I want to have the original WM6.5 experience...
There are soime rom called super light here where u can get only 6.5 experience without manila. But as i talked above u should stay with 6.1 because u will get dissappointed with 6.5 right after u use it
petvas said:
I really like the new WM6.5 UI. It is a definite improvement from WM6.1, despite the fact that I don't really like a 100% Touch interface. I like using my stylus too but this is in WM6.5 not an issue.
What I don't like is Manila. How can I disable it completely? I am not talking about Touch Flo but about Manila. I want to have the original WM6.5 experience...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
if yo want to disable manila goto settings->today->items and uncheck "TouchFlo 3D"
if you want to get the original wm6.5 experience you have to enable titanium which is microsofts new "desktop". you can enable it under settings->today->items and tick "Windows default".
This is the merge of MD (maldives) and Com3.
There are definitely many issues with the number of changes made and many of the new UI updates have no real skinned assets.
However, there are some fixes in 23022 and the native 480x800 resources help (the themes included also have reg settings which need to be applied).
X button replacements like HTC TaskManager have some issues, as do the Notification managers and enlarge start menu services.
MS is in the progress of transitioning the notification UI to the confetti plus engine (the HW accelerated, XML/CPR driven engine that runs the start menu)
Knowing Miri, he will likely have a stable build up by the end of the weekend.
Ive been messing around, got one rom that works partially in landscape although glitches on a few imput fields.
The NRG roms seem most stable, but only the ones with original TF3D
Anyone have any thoughts on a good rom that I will be able to do the most with landscape wise? Basically just imput fields, texting, etc.
I swear to God if i see one more thread about this...... Manila 2.5 DOES NOT WORK IN LANDSCAPE. Its not the ROM its the Manila from HTC. The only screens that work is pictures and music.
Bxsteez said:
I swear to God if i see one more thread about this...... Manila 2.5 DOES NOT WORK IN LANDSCAPE. Its not the ROM its the Manila from HTC. The only screens that work is pictures and music.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How about for texting and web browsing? I would think those are separate then from the Manilla UI.
What about the ROMS that have SENSE UI? Is that just a "skin" or will the UI work in landscape with the similar feel of Manilla?
The Sense UI now extends to Manila 2.1 and those do have landscape. The 2.5 versions doesn't have landscape. The Sense UI that is related to manila is still manila and only works in landscape on 2.1. If you are referring to skins that modify pointui or spb mobile those are just skins. Texting outside of manila should have landscape and so should opera.
Bxsteez said:
The Sense UI now extends to Manila 2.1 and those do have landscape. The 2.5 versions doesn't have landscape. The Sense UI that is related to manila is still manila and only works in landscape on 2.1. If you are referring to skins that modify pointui or spb mobile those are just skins. Texting outside of manila should have landscape and so should opera.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ok thanks! I really like the weather clock and the way the email feels in manilla 2.5.
NRG Photon Rom has the Weather Clock
I have accepted the landscape problem with 2.5 since this version of manilla first emerged, but it has always puzzled me. My understanding is that 2.5 is basically for the HD2/Leo, right? So does this mean that the HD2 does not have landscape for manilla tabs (other than pics and music)?
In all the video reviews of the HD2 I have seen to date, none actually show the reviewer rotating the phone on the homescreen.
I have never cooked a ROM so perhaps this is a dumb question....but if any chefs can shed some light on why it does not work I would be grateful.
Thanks
chrisrj28 said:
NRG Photon Rom has the Weather Clock
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yeah but its not the same as, the LEO for instance, where the cloiuds come from all over the screen, or the moonlight beams in from the corner of the device
scdoyle said:
I have accepted the landscape problem with 2.5 since this version of manilla first emerged, but it has always puzzled me. My understanding is that 2.5 is basically for the HD2/Leo, right? So does this mean that the HD2 does not have landscape for manilla tabs (other than pics and music)?
In all the video reviews of the HD2 I have seen to date, none actually show the reviewer rotating the phone on the homescreen.
I have never cooked a ROM so perhaps this is a dumb question....but if any chefs can shed some light on why it does not work I would be grateful.
Thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The manila files and scripts just don't have that functionality. I do not think the LEO has landscape. Give it time.. Remember the original manila didn't really have a landscape either.
llllllllll said:
yeah but its not the same as, the LEO for instance, where the cloiuds come from all over the screen, or the moonlight beams in from the corner of the device
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think it does.... My new manila rom does that.
Bxsteez said:
I think it does.... My new manila rom does that.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yeah, only the 2.5 does.. the reg photon has the same weather clock i have now
Thats not true!!!! My Manila 2.1 has animated weather. So does At0m's new ROM.
http://i354.photobucket.com/albums/r423/Bxsteez/Compiled.png
Bxsteez said:
Thats not true!!!! My Manila 2.1 has animated weather. So does At0m's new ROM.
http://i354.photobucket.com/albums/r423/Bxsteez/Compiled.png
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Im downloading Photon as we speak. If this works, ill be thrilled.. if only I could change the mail tab icon to the envelopes instead of the ugly mailbox and get the whole email view like on 2.5
If I do use a manilla 2.5 rom, is their landscape support in apps or when forming emails?
In photon there is an app called G-Config under Start Menu/Utilities. You can select what functions you want to autorotate there and problem solved.
chrisrj28 said:
In photon there is an app called G-Config under Start Menu/Utilities. You can select what functions you want to autorotate there and problem solved.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
awesome! Thanks man.
So essentially I can use photon with manilla 2.5 - and just turn on rotate for email/text/internet?
Only things that use manilla would be the email/text previews and the home screen right?
Yeah you can go with Leo and have the added features of 2.5 and just select what programs you want to rotate other than Manilla.
I still have a problem with text entry in facebook - The keyboard doesnt do anything but shake the screen in landscape mode
Can't help you there as I am one of the few people in the world with no facebook
chrisrj28 said:
In photon there is an app called G-Config under Start Menu/Utilities. You can select what functions you want to autorotate there and problem solved.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Is that gyrator? It can be installed in any ROM!
Any yes Manila 2.5 does not work in landscape, and it has been discussed zilliion times....
This guy and his ROM (for SE Xperia) has landscape support for Manila 2.5 : http://htcpedia.com/rotastrains_manila2_5_landcape/soft/sony-x1-rom.html
Dont know how he did it, but it can be done. Ive seen nothing lie this for the Touch Pro 2.
Hi,
I'm running my tytn II on TPC Elite 6.5 (it's how I got it)
However, aside from the m2d being completely useless in landscape, the time doesn't "sit" in the correct place (image attached) on the slide to unlock screen.
Is there a fix for this?
Also, if anyone can suggest a rom good on battery, ram and with the standard 6.5 "chome" screen I'd be happy to hear from you (if it has the slide to unlock feature also I'd be happy!)
Thanks
Bayton said:
Hi,
I'm running my tytn II on TPC Elite 6.5 (it's how I got it)
However, aside from the m2d being completely useless in landscape, the time doesn't "sit" in the correct place (image attached) on the slide to unlock screen.
Is there a fix for this?
Also, if anyone can suggest a rom good on battery, ram and with the standard 6.5 "chome" screen I'd be happy to hear from you (if it has the slide to unlock feature also I'd be happy!)
Thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
As it has been stated more than a thousand times, M2D was ported from a device that does not have a slide out keyboard, therefore it has been hacked into landscape as far as it can. It is what it is.
That is the " mega " screen, the clock is supposed to be offset from the gray background, just look at any other mega theme.
If you do not like either, there are plenty of other UIs around that were actually meant for the Kaiser, that work in landscape. And if you search, there are 100's of SU2U themes that you can use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=354111&highlight=SU2U
As it has been stated more than a thousand times, M2D was ported from a device that does not have a slide out keyboard, therefore it has been hacked into landscape as far as it can. It is what it is.
That is the " mega " screen, the clock is supposed to be offset from the gray background, just look at any other mega theme.
If you do not like either, there are plenty of other UIs around that were actually meant for the Kaiser, that work in landscape. And if you search, there are 100's of SU2U themes that you can use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...highlight=SU2U
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm aware M2D is a port, that's why I said aside from it sucking in landscape. I don't use it anyway. It has been disabled on my rom.
Why on Earth would anyone think having it offset like that could look good?! Thanks for the link. I'm looking for a new rom (I say looking, haven't found one yet.. is it more difficult to flash than the wizard? It's already been flashed, so I assume it's ready to go in terms of setting it up?), but first would like to knock it back down to an official rom for a bit. Is this rom the correct one for my device? Or, as it's a dutch phone, should I use a different English version (I don't want it in Dutch you see).
As a guess i'd go into S2U2 settings and disable the Top Curtain... & bottom as it's overlapping the droid look slider...
Thank you Stylez!
Exactly what I was looking for, and it seems I can simply change the background (which is what the grey part is).
Hi,
since i never type anything in portrait and i liked how the landscape of manila 2.1 looked, i was always hoping for a full landscape-only rom with the sense gui. and by full i mean no portrait available... or at least only through third party tweaking programs
the autorotate for music and album in sense is just not made for our hardware. its so slow and laggy. and when it has finally finished rotating the scrolling is also no fun. i hope the chefs disable this in their future roms.
Does anyone know a rom like this or are there any cooks who would produce something like this??
thx
hdizzel
hi
i been trying to get same thing hate portait mode, not sure manila
i tried searching n google landscape only but never any good, im thinking of goin back to 6.1 with screen rotate software, as 6.5 constantly goes portrait mode
hope someone can help
thanks
touchhdizzel said:
Hi,
since i never type anything in portrait and i liked how the landscape of manila 2.1 looked, i was always hoping for a full landscape-only rom with the sense gui. and by full i mean no portrait available... or at least only through third party tweaking programs
the autorotate for music and album in sense is just not made for our hardware. its so slow and laggy. and when it has finally finished rotating the scrolling is also no fun. i hope the chefs disable this in their future roms.
Does anyone know a rom like this or are there any cooks who would produce something like this??
thx
hdizzel
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have installed EnergyROM_23518_BLACKSTONE_20.Jan.2010_StandardM2.5_MaxManila,so far werry happy, rotate works perfect and you can set it thrue maxmanila setup page
gradecak said:
I have installed EnergyROM_23518_BLACKSTONE_20.Jan.2010_StandardM2.5_MaxManila,so far werry happy, rotate works perfect and you can set it thrue maxmanila setup page
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
maxmanila is a whole theme... and i dont want it to rotate. it should be landscape by default.
anyway thanks for the hint. will try.
take a rom with a landscape capable manilla (if 2.5 just the latest are for all tabs) and deactivate the autorotate function.
could have found that by search function:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=575557
also have a look here for the gdi value...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=447290
as it cant be changen in "windows-settings -> system -> screen" anymore as i just noticed
and it should be fine...
but u will get the slow music and picture tab as manilla 2.5 is designes this way there is no other landscape for - otherwise take 2.1
actually with the new manilla 2.5.1922 the landscape tabs for music and pictures are different from the ones in previous 2.5 settings. They kinda look like the manilla 2.1 ones.
Yeah, I just started a post looking for a cab or reg edit to disable the rotation on the music, documents and photos tabs on the new manila 2.5 1922 too, those reg keys are not the same as in the new manila.
Maybe, this could help?
greets
Markus