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I think most of the active members are aware of the video difficulties SO please (please, please) turn your rants off for this thread. What I am trying to find is a combination of settings that DO work.
My preferred codec is MP4.
From some suggestions in other threads, I have tried these encoding settings.
Screen resolution: 320x240
Frames Per Second: 30
Kbps: 300
Audio codec: [email protected]
...and I am playing back on TCPMP 0.72RC1 using these settings
Options/Video: Raw FrameBuffer
Options/Video/Dither: Off
Options/Video/Pixel Aspect Ratio: Auto
Options/Settings/Advanced/Slow Video Memory: On
Options/Settings/Buffering/Preload at Underrun: 85%
Using this, all I get for video is about 1 frame every 3 seconds. Audio is fine.
So can anyone add this this for getting MP4 to work?
Do I need to use a different codec? If so, I would prefer something other then AVI, since I have a mixed environment. Does anyone have suggestions on the best cross platform Codec, that has work well on the Kaiser?
I'd be interested in this too. I can play back videos taken from the video camera flawlessly but when trying to encode them to the same MP4 codec they can get choppy. Not sure what gives :0
Using WMV here
I couldn't get the mp4 output from my ATI Multimedia Centre software to work at all on my TyTN II so I've settled on WMV 9 at 352 x 288 resolution and 372 kbps (thats at 15 fps). Anything with higher bit rate than that seems to cause problems with to much screen tearing during fast movement scenes.
You might want to follow this thread... seams that the Core Player is attacking this known problem for the Tilt. I'm by no means an expert on this, but seems like the Qualcomm QTV technology for the video has some issues:
http://www.corecodec.com/forums/index.php?topic=596.0
I use PDXE, Lathe, and a few others to encode Divx videos at 320x240 video quality at "28" audio in stereo at 96 or 128k MP3 with a total bitrate under 500k (usually shoot for 475kbps). If the encoder allows it, for portable video I bump the audio volume by 15% and I increase brightness as well. To me most movies look darker on the small screen. If cropping is allowed I crop widescreen content, cutting off some of the sides of the picture to get closer to the 3:4 ratio of PDA screen. I also like to turn the brightness down as much as possible to increase battery life so the bump in brightness helps there as well. An average movie 1:50 length is about 480MB
I've used Core and TCPMP (currently using TCPMP for the youtube capability) and use Rawframe buffer as well. I'm sure that Core 1.2 will make things even better.
I get 30FPS and normal fluid video, looks like my other 8525, hx4700, and Archos 320 and 400 units with crisp clear video, no complaints.
This MP4 doesnt play on my pc only the phone???
Flying Kiwi said:
I couldn't get the mp4 output from my ATI Multimedia Centre software to work at all on my TyTN II so I've settled on WMV 9 at 352 x 288 resolution and 372 kbps (thats at 15 fps). Anything with higher bit rate than that seems to cause problems with to much screen tearing during fast movement scenes.
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This MP4 doesnt play on my pc only onthe phone???
I have an TiLt and when i try to record videos on my phone in MP4, it appears to work fine and i can play it back on my phone using TCPMP. but when i try to run this on my computer rnning vista it only shows video with no sound.
What can be causing this, is there a way to fix this and has anyone else noticed this..
ps. i hope ths has not been spoken about b4, i hate sounding like a nubie
zulualpha7 said:
This MP4 doesnt play on my pc only onthe phone???
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There's lots avout video formats in the wiki here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=The H.264 (a.k.a. MPEG-4 Part 10 and AVC) Bible
FWIW my mp4s recorded on my TyTN II wont playback on my PC either, it's simply a case of finding a suitable codec.
recorded videos on Tilt not playing on vista with sound!! I GOT IT FIXXX
Flying Kiwi said:
There's lots avout video formats in the wiki here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=The H.264 (a.k.a. MPEG-4 Part 10 and AVC) Bible
FWIW my mp4s recorded on my TyTN II wont playback on my PC either, it's simply a case of finding a suitable codec.
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Hey thanx for the reply but VLC is what i got installed and doesnt work, thought someone else had the same issue like mine. The .MP4 files that the TiLT records doesnt playback properly. PROBLEM is : I get the video portion just fine, but no sound. I have the. I tried in Media Player, VLC, QuickTime, RealPlayer, etc.... All the same... video plays but no sound.
I googled the issue and found out some other HTC phone users got it too and a couple solutions i found are.
1. In QuickTime it says: "Error 2041 - Invalid sample description in movie"
Solution: Checked the Apple.com or quicktime forums, if you use quicktime, change the file name from .MP4 to .3GP and it will work, it will not work otherwise. (if you dont know how to rename the files or dont see extension, Windows vista or XP go to tools>folder options>view>uncheck hide file extensions for known file types and voila)
2. Since I did so much reading on this, I got a new player (KMPlayer) that beats vlc in my books it plays the files recorded from the tilt just fine unlike VLC latest build, its fast and does all vlc does but it has a better GUI and plays anything you throw at it. you can get kmplayer here
Conclusion: The TiLt is fine, just that I couldnt get the right player to run the video files it records. apparently there is some issue with the qualcomm processor and the video output files of .MP4, some others have reported issues with any .MP4 files and had to do the same listed above.
Hope this helps someone here...
if you want an mp4 player on your pc for free, go to nokia.com
zulualpha7 said:
Hey thanx for the reply but VLC is what i got installed and doesnt work, thought someone else had the same issue like mine. The .MP4 files that the TiLT records doesnt playback properly. PROBLEM is : I get the video portion just fine, but no sound. I have the. I tried in Media Player, VLC, QuickTime, RealPlayer, etc.... All the same... video plays but no sound.
I googled the issue and found out some other HTC phone users got it too and a couple solutions i found are.
1. In QuickTime it says: "Error 2041 - Invalid sample description in movie"
Solution: Checked the Apple.com or quicktime forums, if you use quicktime, change the file name from .MP4 to .3GP and it will work, it will not work otherwise. (if you dont know how to rename the files or dont see extension, Windows vista or XP go to tools>folder options>view>uncheck hide file extensions for known file types and voila)
2. Since I did so much reading on this, I got a new player (KMPlayer) that beats vlc in my books it plays the files recorded from the tilt just fine unlike VLC latest build, its fast and does all vlc does but it has a better GUI and plays anything you throw at it. you can get kmplayer here
Conclusion: The TiLt is fine, just that I couldnt get the right player to run the video files it records. apparently there is some issue with the qualcomm processor and the video output files of .MP4, some others have reported issues with any .MP4 files and had to do the same listed above.
Hope this helps someone here...
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MANY THANKS! zulualpha7,
I have had the error 2041 problem for a long time and have never been able to play vids recorded on my TyTn II on my PC.
I almost installed various codec packs as other forum members have done but after reading about potential problems of having multiple codecs for same file type and upsetting the system I decided not to do this.
I have some really important 'once in a lifetime' family moments like my friend's son catching his first fish etc... I though they were all lost for ever.
I just downloaded latest Quicktime and renamed file extensions to ".3gp" like you said and now I can watch everything!!!!
Thank you so much this really has been a big improvement for me.
ONCE AGAIN THIS FORUM ROCKS! Thanks to everyone for so much fantastic helpful info.
Hey, all of a sudden I can't play videos in full screen(landscape mode with windows media player. I don't know why this is happening. The only thing I have done to my tilt recently is install the spb mobile shell. Everytime I select full screen the video remains the same size and also has the wrong orientation remaining in portrait mode. I have also encountered another problem when I watch streaming videos from my computer through orb. The videos would not be in full screen. But I just assumed that was because the stream from orb doesn't support it. But as I stated my main problem is that none of my videos play in full screen or landscape mode.
Try use TCMP or Coreplayer. I gave my less trouble. WMP is troublemaker and user not friendly...
I really like Core Player for videos. The videos are very sharp, and it's a clean, easy format to use. No problem watching in full screen.
I only use WMP for audio.
KaiserTweak has a fix for this under the "User Interface" section (second to last tweak in this section).
IMO, i think you should migrate from WMP to TCPMP (or core player I suppose, though i don't know much about it.)
TCPMP is my favourite, as it can play pretty much anything you throw at it, there's a mass of options to tweak to get the video and audio just right for you, if you're interested, check this thread
Hi,
I have a problem with the HTC album, I have put a movie on there is about 700MB mp4 file (h.264 + acc)...
When I first copy the file to the device I can play it thought the album program fine, but when I stop the moive and come back to play it later it wont play...
When I tap it and it just shows the first image with the tap play button and the back send properties buttons, when I hit play it goes to a black screen (still shows the start bar up the top with the text "album") but it wont play again, it just goes back to the screen with the play button and the 3 tap buttons down the bottom...
Any ideas???
Seems to be fine in Windows media player (on the device)... What gives better performance (WMP or the album program for video watching???)
Thanks,
NW
I have practically the same problem.
I recorded a small movie with the camera, saved it as *.mp4 file.
When I try to play it using HTC Album, it just won't play.
I get sound but no picture.
I'm running Diamond Project V2 ROM at the moment.
I'm 1.37 WWE
Same problem here!!
when I'm gone watch a movie I recorded with the phone there is only sound no picture!
I guess It will fix itself if I do a hardreset .. but I really don't want that!!
someone got a answer to this?
Any news on this matter, have same problem?
I tried to play a movie (.avi file) with windows media player on the diamond but it doesnt work. Which format must the movie have to play with windows media player? Is there other good programs beside coreplayer mobile? I dont want to buy coreplayer, do i have to install a codec on the diamond?
Do i have to convert to a special format, i transfered a movie sample file (.avi) from my computer to the diamonds internal memory but when i try to open the movie with windows media player, it doesnt work, what should i do?
raptorgt said:
I tried to play a movie (.avi file) with windows media player on the diamond but it doesnt work. Which format must the movie have to play with windows media player? Is there other good programs beside coreplayer mobile? I dont want to buy coreplayer, do i have to install a codec on the diamond?
Do i have to convert to a special format, i transfered a movie sample file (.avi) from my computer to the diamonds internal memory but when i try to open the movie with windows media player, it doesnt work, what should i do?
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Try the previous version of Coreplayer, TCPMP. It's freeware.
use TCPMP, theres a speical version of it for WM6.1 devices, plays any file format you throw at it and super smooth with more options than you can shake a stick at!
oh, and its FREE!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380387&highlight=tcpmp+diamond
keyz86 said:
use TCPMP, theres a speical version of it for WM6.1 devices, plays any file format you throw at it and super smooth with more options than you can shake a stick at!
oh, and its FREE!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380387&highlight=tcpmp+diamond
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Agree. Hands down best media player. Smooth as it gets!
Thanks for your help i will try TCPMP, but should i just transfer the movie to diamond and then open it with TCPMP?
Yes it works now, how do i zoom in with TCPMP to remove the two black lines that are often in movies or do i have to somehow change the resoultion of the movie so it fits the screen?
when you install TCPMP you can set file assosiations so you can just click on the file itself to play, but of corse you can also go the long way around and open TCPMP first
raptorgt said:
Yes it works now, how do i zoom in with TCPMP to remove the two black lines that are often in movies or do i have to somehow change the resoultion of the movie so it fits the screen?
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yes, i use ImTOO Mpeg encoder to change resoloutions, i personally find that encoding files to .mpeg at 500 bit rate and 320x240 does a perfect job for me, doesnt take up much space on the internal storage and you dont notice any loss of quality playing it at full screen
i tried the TCPMP player.. although its good and convinent but it still can't play some .flv files downloaded from the internet, and the interface wasn't as perfect/ pretty.
I took on a more hassle approach. Downloaded PSPVC (a freeware that is able to convert most types of movie files into mp4 format) converted my movie files into mp4 format and then play them using the default windows media player 10. Works perfectly!
PlugIn FLV pour TCPMP
try the plug in
plugin-flash-pour-tcpmp_plugin_flash_pour_tcpmp_v0.4.2_.cab_anglais_41514
what bitrate do you use and what rezolution do you use?
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what bitrate do you use and what rezolution do you use?
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i havn't played around with the settings.. i am using the default settings (with the HD** AVC option unchecked).
Ok. I recorded some video on my AT&T Tilt with a memory card. It plays fine on my phone. Well I want to get it on my computer. When I tried to, it was in the MP4 format. So I opened it with Quicktime and iTunes and it wouldn't play. It said there was an error. So I was gonna convert it. I tried to, but it gave me a warning saying that it would have no sound, so I didn't do that. Then I downloaded VLC Player and when I played the videos, they didn't have sound. I tried putting them in Windows Media Center, didn't work. I tried ActiveSync. Didn't work. There has to be some possible way to do this. PLEASE HELP!!!!!!!!!
Same thing happens to me. Now I just record in the other format, QIF I believe. And that works fine.
THANKYOU!!!!!!!!!!
how did you even get "good" video playback?
how did you even get "good" video on the TILT? is it the change in file type that makes the video better in itself? where do you change it?
You can change to CIF by selecting it from the Capture Settings menu (hit menu when the camera is running) under Resolution. The capture format can be changed from MPEG-4 to H.263 if you go to Advanced > Capture Format.
Recording in a well-lit environment helps. I'm not usually affected by placebo, but I and a few other users have reported increased camera performance after installing the latest test drivers for the Kaiser from htcclassaction.org. It DID seem that the framerate was higher. I can't rule out the possibility that updating to windows mobile 6.1 may have made a difference, but I know I don't keep apps running in the background and the comparison whilst not scientific would be pretty fair.
What can be used to view H.263 on the home pc? Will media player play it? And is there a good reason why it just doesn't record to .wmv or regular old mpeg? As you can tell I am a moron when it comes to video.
VLC will read it
kbcherry said:
What can be used to view H.263 on the home pc? Will media player play it? And is there a good reason why it just doesn't record to .wmv or regular old mpeg? As you can tell I am a moron when it comes to video.
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QuickTime will play H.263 encoded files.
The Tilt does not use WMV or MPEG because they do not have formats optimized for mobile devices, so the files end up being huge.
Thanks, that makes sense!
my mp4 videos run fine on wm player! try downloading the vista or xp codec pack which is available on most torrent sites
I know its old but anyway...I record video w/ my kaiser, bluetooth the video over to my laptop, convert with WM convert, open w/ movie maker, edit then post. Sooooooooo easy and no cables required!
You're all going through waaaay to much by using converters & what not. When recording in mpeg4 format just rename the files to ".3gp" after you transfer them to your computer and they will play regularly through quicktime with sound & everything intact.
download K lite codec pack: http://www.free-codecs.com/download/K_lite_codec_pack.htm
it will allow windows media player to play ANYTHING, throw and file at it and it will play
VLC Works for me
VLC works for me, try it
TLJack64 said:
You're all going through waaaay to much by using converters & what not. When recording in mpeg4 format just rename the files to ".3gp" after you transfer them to your computer and they will play regularly through quicktime with sound & everything intact.
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Use a converter to be able to edit the video in windows movie maker, it takes like 10 seconds to convert a MPEG4 to WMV. (i've got the codec pack but in order to edit the video you need to convert it.)