So, with what deviece Radio is the Xperia Compatible?
Only Blackstone or also diamond etc.?
xmoo said:
So, with what deviece Radio is the Xperia Compatible?
Only Blackstone or also diamond etc.?
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As far as I know both of them.
Has someone tried it?
Is there any hope at all of a radio firmware upgrade that might bring T-Mobile's 3G to the Xperia?
How about the hope of bringing the 850mhz UTMS band to X1i users?
scar45 said:
How about the hope of bringing the 850mhz UTMS band to X1i users?
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What does 850mhz UTMS cover?
xmoo said:
What does 850mhz UTMS cover?
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Sorry, not sure what you mean xmoo...here in Canada, Rogers uses 850/1900mhz for GSM and UMTS, but I can't seem to get on the 1900 UMTS network. It always hops on 850, so I wanted to have the ability to get 3G on 850mhz UMTS.
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Is there a version of the diamond that will get 3g with att us ?(850mhz band) I have seen the update that gives the 850 band but I was told it isnt for the 3g. I really want a diamond but not having 3g is gonna be a real deal breaker for me.
I've got 850MHz on 3G here with the 1.00.25.05 radio ROM which came on my device (works on Telstra NextG here in Australia which is 850MHz HSDPA).
really? I just read where the fcc just passed the us version of the diamond for the 850 band on hsdpa. Anyone else can confirm they are getting 3g with there diamond in the us?
poedgirl said:
I've got 850MHz on 3G here with the 1.00.25.05 radio ROM which came on my device (works on Telstra NextG here in Australia which is 850MHz HSDPA).
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did you buy your diamond from telstra???
frozenwaffles said:
did you buy your diamond from telstra???
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No I did not, I have the UK version. The Australian version isn't available for another few weeks.
no it is out now but only in certain telstra stores...
so how do you know you are operating on the 3g 850Mhz band???
what radio and firmware are you using?
i want my next g speeds!
I know I'm on the 850MHz band as that's what Telstra NextG uses (with HSDPA). As I said above, radio version is 1.00.25.05 and ROM is WWE 1.93.405.1. All this info is in my signature as well.
3G on ATT
I just got my Diamond Touch today and it came with the
RADIO: 1.00.25.05
ROM: 1.93.456.2 WWE Dated (7/10/08)
O/S: CE 5.2.19965 (Build 19965.1.2.3)
I'm only getting (E)dge on AT&T
No (G) or (H)
My upgraded TILT/TYN II connects to G3 and H at my location here in Los Angeles.
I hope someone figures out a way to get at least a G3 and 850Mhz radio.
Does it just need to be unlocked ??
poedgirl said:
I know I'm on the 850MHz band as that's what Telstra NextG uses (with HSDPA). As I said above, radio version is 1.00.25.05 and ROM is WWE 1.93.405.1. All this info is in my signature as well.
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Hi#
In another thread somone posted that Telstra uses 850mhz for its 3g network and 2100mhz for its joint 3g venture with 3. I'd be happy though if they used 850/900mhz for 3g in the uk though
I am totally confused here, Everything that I have read says that there is no way that the diamond's that are currently out there has the 850 band hsdpa. No software update is suppose to give it the hsdpa band because it lacks the HARDWARE. I know that the gprs band of 850 is able, is it possible that you are connecting to some other band of 3g in your area? I really wanna buy a diamond but I dont wanna be stuck with this phone and not be able to use 3g in my area (us) PLEASE SOMEONE ELSE SHED SOME LIGHT HERE. There are people in this thread that say it dont work and then there are people that are saying it does, thanks for any help
Not true. It's not a hardware issue, it's radio issue.
After you get the diamond and flash that radio there is a setting to change the band. I don't remember it though T.T
can someone confirm that i can use the diamond on us 3g band (850) by just a new radio and setting?
She's probably getting the 2100mhz HSDPA band in AUS unless she's edited the radio, the phone is only capable of 900/2100mhz HSDPA right now. Here's the killer... The Touch Pro just passed FCC... And no HSDPA/UMTS/WCDMA whatsoever. No 3G.
I haven't found any answers so I've decided to "ask the audience".
To my understanding the Rogers Canada network uses 850/1900 for it's 3G primarily 850. Is this true?
I haven't found a mention of a North American release date for the GSM Diamond. Anyone know the date? I don't expect it till around Christmas.
I'm looking at an Australian Diamond that uses the 850/2100 bands for 3G. Will the support of the 850 band be enough to function on the Rogers network or does the phone have to support both bands for 3G to function on the network?
only gsm 850 works on my diamond. i think its 1900 for 3g
I have an European Diamond which works on the rogers network but I get GSM/EDGE but to my horror no 3G
Looking around only on a few sites can I find any mention of what works and what doesn't the closest information I could find is from this link:
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/843038.html
NextG phones are 850/2100 capable, so you'll be right on most 3G networks...
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WILL get UMTS 850 signal in Cingular 3G coverage areas in the states...
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But someone also says
850MHz UMTS coverage on Rogers in Canada, but you still can't get next g
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and they go back and forth so I'm not sure what to believe and I don't think I want to buy another Diamond just to find it won't work either.
http://www.geekzone.co.nz/Jama/585 has some interesting comments as well but I'm not sure what to believe.
Can anyone confirm or deny and of this?
The question is will a Australian phone with the 850/2100 3G radio function on the Roger network?
nosgop said:
The question is will a Australian phone with the 850/2100 3G radio function on the Roger network?
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I have the Australian version (850/2100 MHz) and it supports the Telstra 3G Network. Can't see why it wouldn't work on other 850/2100 MHz 3G network.
To my understanding the Canadian Rogers network is a 850/1900 network.
Does the phone need to support both bands or will one suffice?
Rogers Diamond
I had an EU/Asia Diam and I never manage to get 3G connection. Sold the phone and bought a Rogers branded diam and by default I see 3G connection all the time on the top network status. But now I'm thinking of going back to an EU/Asia version unless I can flash my Rogers branded diam with a better ROM.
My friend has a unbranded X1, but don't know if can be compatible for the 3G network in Canada or USA? Anyone knows? Or North American ROM needs to be flashed on to enable 3G compatibility with the Carriers in North American??
Thanks in advance for any inputs
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My friend has a unbranded X1, but don't know if can be compatible for the 3G network in Canada or USA? Anyone knows? Or North American ROM needs to be flashed on to enable 3G compatibility with the Carriers in North American??
Thanks in advance for any inputs
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This is a very vexed issue. Please read the thread on 850Mhz 3G connection.
The short answer is:
1) "unbranded X1" is irrelevant. Use Start>Settings>System>Device ID to find the actual device version, ie. X1i or X1a
2) if your friend is lucky and the Device ID is X1a, then the device is capable of connection to the US/Aus/S America/S Africa 850Mhz 3G band
3) if the Device ID is X1i, then no such luck. This is a hardware issue, not firmware
Both will connect to the 2100Mhz UMTS band which is commonly used in cities, so if your friend never ventures outside cities the X1i should work OK for 3G
I have a question on this, when SE 1st released info about X1, they mentioned that it's Quand band GSM, GPRS, EDGE, UMTS/3G 850, 900, 1900, 2100. Why when they released it, they had to make 2 versions to support different networks? I think that this is stupid, they can do that for branded phones but not for SE unbraded phones, exactly like HTC and the HD, Diamond and Pro. We pay a lot of money for these for so at least give us full functionality... especially that these phones are more of business phones, so it's expected that people travel with these phones....or am i wrong about that?
thanks
I have an X1i in the US an it works flawless on the AT&T network with 3G (inc. HSDPA!!!)
rwholden said:
I have an X1i in the US an it works flawless on the AT&T network with 3G (inc. HSDPA!!!)
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In what part of the USA are you?
George Knighton said:
In what part of the USA are you?
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yeah that would be great to know.. Im in LA and i was looking to get one. I know that ATT 3G works both 850 and 1900, but depending on where you are there's one band stronger than the other.
Thanks for the info man.
I really appreciated.
Does anyone know what what band is Rogers 3G running on?
ianl8888 said:
This is a very vexed issue. Please read the thread on 850Mhz 3G connection.
The short answer is:
1) "unbranded X1" is irrelevant. Use Start>Settings>System>Device ID to find the actual device version, ie. X1i or X1a
2) if your friend is lucky and the Device ID is X1a, then the device is capable of connection to the US/Aus/S America/S Africa 850Mhz 3G band
3) if the Device ID is X1i, then no such luck. This is a hardware issue, not firmware
Both will connect to the 2100Mhz UMTS band which is commonly used in cities, so if your friend never ventures outside cities the X1i should work OK for 3G
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White_Hair said:
Thanks for the info man.
I really appreciated.
Does anyone know what what band is Rogers 3G running on?
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Please read and search before asking...
You answer is HERE (google search, first link displayed for "wikipedia rogers 3G": the band has always been there waiting for you to read it under "Services": Rogers 3G 850MHz) so you need the X1a, the X1i won't pick that band
Sorry to bother but this has been posted before (read and search before asking)
mrabie said:
yeah that would be great to know.. Im in LA and i was looking to get one. I know that ATT 3G works both 850 and 1900, but depending on where you are there's one band stronger than the other.
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I'm also on ATT in Colorado (Windsor/Ft. Collins area) and get 3G almost all the time. I've been all over the state and have got 3G service just about everywhere, only rolling over to Edge from time to time.
Oh and I've got an X1i.
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I'm also on ATT in Colorado (Windsor/Ft. Collins area) and get 3G almost all the time. I've been all over the state and have got 3G service just about everywhere, only rolling over to Edge from time to time.
Oh and I've got an X1i.
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Gr8 thanks for the info
yeah, I don't get any 3G in canada with my X1i.
I live in Vancouver BC, always in Edge.
I have had an occurence once, but only once! =[
I get HSDPA in the Dallas\Ft. Worth Area, and in Lawton, OK. Everywhere else I go I'm on Edge. And this is with a X1a on ATT.
ianl8888 said:
This is a very vexed issue. Please read the thread on 850Mhz 3G connection.
The short answer is:
1) "unbranded X1" is irrelevant. Use Start>Settings>System>Device ID to find the actual device version, ie. X1i or X1a
2) if your friend is lucky and the Device ID is X1a, then the device is capable of connection to the US/Aus/S America/S Africa 850Mhz 3G band
3) if the Device ID is X1i, then no such luck. This is a hardware issue, not firmware
Both will connect to the 2100Mhz UMTS band which is commonly used in cities, so if your friend never ventures outside cities the X1i should work OK for 3G
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Nobody in the US uses 2100MHz, AFAIK, and I'm pretty sure Canada follows the same frequencies.
1900, on the other hand, is supported by the X1i, which is used by AT&T, Rogers, and Bell.
The downside is that if you're unfortunate enough to use T-Mobile, the network uses 850MHz only, and you're stuck with EDGE.
man guy this is too simple to find and you open a thread for this??!!??!?! STOP CLOGGING THE FORUMS!!!!!
Can I flash my X1i with a X1a ROM?
I have an UK phone and I am trying to make the 3G working in Brazil which operator uses GSM 1800 & UMTS 850.
Thanks for the help in advance!
wcrov
Sure not a problem. dont forget hard spl
Yes you can flash it
But you can't enable or disable other band than the ones in the manual specification....
Fulgore69 said:
Yes you can flash it
But you can't enable or disable other band than the ones in the manual specification....
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Thanks for your reply!
So, you are saying that after flashing I'll be able to use X1a's band only? Please clarify...
I know that the X1i comes with:
GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(2100+900)
GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850)
So, according to the bands above, the X1 is able to connect in FOUR GSM bands and FOUR UMTS bands, but unfortunately has only two combinations (the ones above) for X1i...
For my X1i's 3G network to work in Brazil, I need to use a combination like 1800's GSM band & 850's UMTS band.
Please correct me if I am wrong... thanks!
wcrov
yes you can flash an x1a rom.
however, IT ABSOLUTELY WILL NOT CHANGE ANYTHING ABOUT THE 3G BANDS.
it's a hardware issue. the x1i is ONLY capable of 900, 1900, and 2100. changing the rom will NOT change this.
figurine said:
it's a hardware issue. the x1i is ONLY capable of 900, 1900, and 2100. changing the rom will NOT change this.
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Sorry, but that doesn't make sense... why my X1i shows FOUR bands for GSM and FOUR bands for UMTS?
GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(2100+900)
GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850)
Looks like the X1i is 850 capable but only on 1900 GSM networks...
So it must have a way to combine the GSM(1800) with UMTS(850)...just wondering...
it doesn't have to make sense. that's just how it is.
why don't things fall up instead of falling down?
i don't know, that's just how it is.
you're on a pointless endeavor, my friend. people have tried.
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it doesn't have to make sense. that's just how it is.
why don't things fall up instead of falling down?
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if we just think this way, we never would have the hardSPL, cooked ROMs, etc...
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people have tried.
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Maybe the RIGHT people haven't tried yet...
I am not convinced yet... I still believin that might have a way to combine GSM(1800) & UMTS(850) on a X1i...
Please someone show me technical sources to proof that I am wrong!!!
figurine said:
why don't things fall up instead of falling down?
i don't know, that's just how it is.
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Newton is mad now!
hi all im new here
i got a 850/2100mhz model
is there anyway to change that to
900/2100mhz
or is it hardware
ty
tony
jacko1977 said:
i got a 850/2100mhz model
is there anyway to change that to
900/2100mhz
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These are the frequencies of the supported networks, not the CPU frequency.
Cellular_Networks: GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS900, UMTS2100
with friendly greet
starbase64
to elaborate on what was said above, those frequencies pertain to your radio which is hardware dependent. You cannot change them in any way on the HD.
Model T8282 is 900 mhz
Model T8285 is 850 mhz
Unfortunately it is hardware dependent and cannot be changed. You might however find some users who purchased the T8282 by mistake and wish to swap with you... I know many users were upset that 3G wouldn't work on their phones due to the frequency... Just a suggestion...
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hi all im new here
i got a 850/2100mhz model
is there anyway to change that to
900/2100mhz
or is it hardware
ty
tony
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thanks guys
James62370 said:
Model T8282 is 900 mhz
Model T8285 is 850 mhz
Unfortunately it is hardware dependent and cannot be changed. You might however find some users who purchased the T8282 by mistake and wish to swap with you... I know many users were upset that 3G wouldn't work on their phones due to the frequency... Just a suggestion...
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its werid im looking at the model no its saying T8282 is the 900/2100 model ur saying but it goes on 3g telstra 850mhz but not 3g optus or vodafone 900mhz unless im reading ur post wrong or something i flash it to get rid of telstra junk unless i did something wrong
if you have the telstra version, I agree, my pc recognises the phone as a t8282, but it is the t8285 as the 3g is working in my 850MHz band freq.
oh ok so the info in start/ settings/system/device information/identity in the phone is normal