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Who are interested to see Linux also on this device?
The process should be very similar to Hermes implementation, so we can follow their steps.
Interesting
is it possible to do dual boot ? how will phone functionality etc work?
kimusan said:
is it possible to do dual boot ? how will phone functionality etc work?
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answering myself: yes it is, which means that I am in! I would love to help with the investigation for getting linux on this device. Looks like the new haret (01/01/2007) works well on trinity. I have successfully telnetted to it and executed several different commands.
kimusan said:
Looks like the new haret (01/01/2007) works well on trinity. I have successfully telnetted to it and executed several different commands.
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Register a machine number for it.
Are the trinity internals known as good as the Hermes ?
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Register a machine number for it.
Are the trinity internals known as good as the Hermes ?
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What do you mean by Register a machine number? where do I do this? As far as I know, the internals are pretty well known. We have pictures that identifies all the relevant chips, and schematics for a lot of the chipset.
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What do you mean by Register a machine number? where do I do this?
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http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/developer/machines/
As far as I know, the internals are pretty well known. We have pictures that identifies all the relevant chips, and schematics for a lot of the chipset.
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Do you have a link ?
cr2 said:
http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/developer/machines/
Do you have a link ?
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It is in one (or more) of the threads in the trinity forum here at xdadevelopers. I do not have the direct links here, but have seen them recently. it is most likely in oone of the "GPS or not GPS" threads.
I have now registered the HTC Trinity/P3600
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Do you have a link ?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285090
See first attachment, Mainboard.zip contains front and back pictures of Trinity's mainboard, with all chipsets.
Look here for the schemes:
http://www.solopalmari.com/content/view/2471/38/
page 2 and 3.
How is the state of art in porting linux on this device?
And on Hermes? Does the kernel boot?
With wm6 do you have to hard reset every time you try to boot the kernel?
Maybe Pof can answer these questions.
Thanks
@renatostore: cr2 and Kevin2 are the guys working on it, come into #htc-linux at freenode irc network.
On hermes the kernel boots, and we can load a minimal initrd using haret. On trinity i haven't checked lastly.
You don't need to hard reset afer booting linux, that was only on WM2003
Hi
How about linux on trinity? i've been on the irc channel but didn't get any answer... a few months passed... i'm in hope!
I don't have high hope on that. Heard it's very difficult to debug stuff in Linux due to the lack of a hardware kb....
why do you want linux on this phone? you are not going to be able to cross-compile apps over and I don't see a useful app in linux that wm6 doesn't have already for a phone.
Hi...
Still interested...
Had someexperience with h36xx and h38xx/h39xx series HP/Compaq PDA's and familiar linux, and it would be very cool to have some of this running on the HTC hardware too...
Anyone already had a ROM cooked up with kernel/basic apps?
Any idea what will/does work and what won't/doesn't? like phone, camera, wifi, gprs, bluetooth, ...
Thanks!
bkortleven said:
Any idea what will/does work and what won't/doesn't? like phone, camera, wifi, gprs, bluetooth, ...
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Check the hermes wiki.
trinity is the hermes without keyboard, minor differences are unimportant
The future of Linux on PDAs is Andromeda. Don't expect this to be implemented on existing devices - Andromeda will be a means to deliver new devices to the market.
While you will most likely need a new phone for Andromeda, you will gain a complete platform with stylish and working applications, so you will be able to actually use the device right from the start.
Have fun!
when WM7 is released, what are the chances that someone will release a cooked version for the Kaiser? Is there enough RAM/ROM/CPU?
errrrrr no.
I'm sure someone will try, but I seriously doubt the HW is up to the Job.
Dave
I doubt we'll even care by the time it gets released - latest reports are claiming delays of up to 2 years...
I can remember the same questions being asked from HPC 2001 ->2002 and it only seems like yesterday we were asking the same question of WM5->WM6...
Patience....
I doubt it will, most devices will be fully VGA by then, and trying to get the OS and interfaces working on the kaiser (QVGA) might prove to be difficult.
crap... guess we'll have to settle for android?
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crap... guess we'll have to settle for android?
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For the time being...
I only re-itterating(sp?) what other people have said and by the tie WM7 is out i would iagine hat for 99% of people (including myself) using a Kaiser will be a distant memory and we will be using much more up to date hardware (in relation to the time when WM7 is out)
Sam
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crap... guess we'll have to settle for android?
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'settle' for android?
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'settle' for android?
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Sure
I'd be more than happy to "settle" for andriod as my Kaiser's operating system
Sam
robinsonsam said:
Sure
I'd be more than happy to "settle" for andriod as my Kaiser's operating system
Sam
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i meant, 'settle' sounds like last resort... like, "oh, well, I'll settle for android for the time being since there is nothing else at the moment...."
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i meant, 'settle' sounds like last resort... like, "oh, well, I'll settle for android for the time being since there is nothing else at the moment...."
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Haha, i knew what you ment
I'm looking forward to he development of Android for the kaiser and cant wait to test the builds what will replace WM as the Operating system.
Sam
android
can android run windows apps. like TomTom?
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heh, i get the point, but my main worry is that it will be a while before the system and the apps are stable to use on a daily basis. and it will not be easy to get used to a new layout after using WM for the last 2 years.
one of the major things for me would be having proper accelerated 2d/3d drivers, but as i said, that might take some time...
also will be interesting to see if web apps can be developed and *run* on the phone... im learning Rails at the moment, would be cool to be able to use it in ways that i couldn't with WM.
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can android run windows apps. like TomTom?
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Doubtful, since Android is linux based and windows mobile is based on the crushed hopes and dreams of many a microsoft programmer.
I'm waiting for a dos based os. None of this gui stuff. Command line rules!
barry99705 said:
Doubtful, since Android is linux based and windows mobile is based on the crushed hopes and dreams of many a microsoft programmer.
I'm waiting for a dos based os. None of this gui stuff. Command line rules!
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I'm waiting for a port of AmigaOS
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I'm waiting for a port of AmigaOS
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I hear ya! Amiga OS all the way!!
barry99705 said:
I'm waiting for a dos based os. None of this gui stuff. Command line rules!
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Nobody forces you to use the gui (like android) on linux.
ncurses-based phone app will be nice
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There is a linux version of tomtom for PNAs.
everyone have say, wm6 on prophet is inpossible, but is go....
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This thread is here for information and discussion about the Linux kernel (and Linux based userspaces like Ångström distribution or google android.
If you have no clue what this is all about, click the above links and read a bit about it.
The xperia(kovsky) research information vital to porting the linux kernel is available at htc-linux.org
The kovsky is very similar to raphael, diamond and the other htc phones that are based on the QCT msm7xxxA chip. This is why the raphael/diamond development kernel code from the htc-linux project runs well on it.
Kovsky has its own machine type in the htc-msm-2.6.27 (see link above) branch now.
im kinda excited about this! if linux (& android) is able to run on the X1 smoothly, I'm definitely donating!
New thread = very good news.
If you need someone for testing then let me know.
I would be willing to donate as well.
Keep working hard everyone!
somehow i feel like setting up an X1 android version for it. since im more the "script" guy im rather useless for u if it comes to kernel development ^^
how stable and functional is the kernel so far?
and especialy, is the Wifi running allready?
hey decordes,
there is the question where to get the [email protected] files 0.8 and 1.0... (i have them. but dont know if i may provide these files while they are not from my self!)
a simple yes or no and they are available for the next years or not
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how stable and functional is the kernel so far?
and especialy, is the Wifi running allready?
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afaik the wifi doesnt work. only usb0 which is laggy. (but works! you could ssh to the x1 per default.)
i am a little bit bussy at the moment (have to provide some sap-python-mysql-interface for productive use.)
but if i get spare time i will take a closer look at wifi...
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kk thx.
as long i can use ssh, i'm all set up i guess
time for some android theory
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Ooops (forgot to strike key), yes I mean TNETW12511.
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isnt that the same wifichip as the kaiser has?
but why is wifi needed to boot android?
Reversedhex said:
isnt that the same wifichip as the kaiser has?
but why is wifi needed to boot android?
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I don't know many things on Kaiser device but if you read somewhere that it use a TI 1251 WLAN then... yes, it's the same.
I don't understand why do you correlate wifi and android booting
We're talking about this wifi chip just because it isn't supported in the linux-htc-kovsky package at the moment.
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I don't know many things on Kaiser device but if you read somewhere that it use a TI 1251 WLAN then... yes, it's the same.
I don't understand why do you correlate wifi and android booting
We're talking about this wifi chip just because it isn't supported in the linux-htc-kovsky package at the moment.
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i was reading a combination of things,
-wifi not working and usb0 laggy.
-log readout over usb0
so i thought maybe for the log or something, nevermind
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wifi not working on kaiser either so we cannot take the driver from there, but i dont think wifi has high priority...
http://www.androidonhtc.com/kaiser:port_status
NSRocket said:
I don't know many things on Kaiser device but if you read somewhere that it use a TI 1251 WLAN then... yes, it's the same.
I don't understand why do you correlate wifi and android booting
We're talking about this wifi chip just because it isn't supported in the linux-htc-kovsky package at the moment.
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its not related. i jsut read that the USB connection was kind of laggy so once i set up a working wifi connection i can continue working with SSH over wifi. that was the only reason.
ah... ok i think this was my intention.
most of the time i am waiting for usb0 to get any response! i cant read on the display them self... so the next needed feature for _me_ was to get a stable/responsible connection (like wifi
achmed20: you got it!
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Hi,
very nice project. Maybe i could help out a bit
At least i may help testing and do some hardware discoveries, because i'm not a good kernel hacker.
Anyway i'm used to digg the kernel source and all the other stuff.
There are some questions though:
Those are introduced in the git repository of Mariusz "Aiv" Dalewski. Among other changes, it has the fully working xperia keyboard.
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Is the git already accessible?
Maybe someone could create a patch to get started more easily
afaik the wifi doesnt work. only usb0 which is laggy. (but works! you could ssh to the x1 per default.)
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What's the exact state of USB connection right now?
Does it work on Raphael?
Concerning debugging:
Anything known about JTAG on Kovksy?
As you might know i'm addicted to this interface
Best regards,
scholbert
scholbert said:
Hi,
very nice project. Maybe i could help out a bit
At least i may help testing and do some hardware discoveries, because i'm not a good kernel hacker.
Anyway i'm used to digg the kernel source and all the other stuff.
There are some questions though:
Is the git already accessible?
Maybe someone could create a patch to get started more easily
What's the exact state of USB connection right now?
Does it work on Raphael?
Concerning debugging:
Anything known about JTAG on Kovksy?
As you might know i'm addicted to this interface
Best regards,
scholbert
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http://www.htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Kernel#Kernel_for_QCT_MSM7xxxA_based_devices
The aiv code is htc-msm-2.6.27 branch plus xperia changes. I think he doesn't want to make it available publicly yet. I'm waiting for it too so I can push it to linuxtogo. You can pull the htc-msm-2.6.27 either way.
usbnet is same driver as used for raphael.
drivers/usb/msm_usb
For jtag, I think you need to wire it to the board manually.
For the raphael you can get a serial connection by making a cable that plugs in the usb port. Ask dreamkill about it. I don't know if it is wired the same way in xperia.
Hope this makes sense I have horrbile hangover
http://www.phonewreck.com/wiki/index.php?title=Sony_Ericsson_XPERIA_X1
So what has to be done is get the linux drivers for al these hardware components and compile them to a kernel to make it fully working?
that probably ist going to be easy
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btw about wifi cant the driver from g1 be extracted?
same hardware G1/X1
-Power Management PMIC: Qualcomm PM7540
-WLAN Texas Instruments WL1251B/WL1251FE
-UMTS: 2100MHz avago ACPM-7381
-USB SMSC USB3316
Hi dcordes,
thanks for your reply.
http://www.htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Kernel#Kernel_for_QCT_MSM7xxxA_based_devices
The aiv code is htc-msm-2.6.27 branch plus xperia changes. I think he doesn't want to make it available publicly yet. I'm waiting for it too so I can push it to linuxtogo. You can pull the htc-msm-2.6.27 either way.
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Yeah did that already.
Unfortunately right now i got no X1 for testing. Should arive the next days i suppose
usbnet is same driver as used for raphael.
drivers/usb/msm_usb
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O.K., i see so we will also use the config for raphael, i suppose..
For jtag, I think you need to wire it to the board manually.
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Sure, that's essential
I just wanted to know if there's anyone apart from Sony and HTC engineers who got some info about these testpoints ?
For the raphael you can get a serial connection by making a cable that plugs in the usb port. Ask dreamkill about it. I don't know if it is wired the same way in xperia.
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That's cool!
Hope this makes sense I have horrbile hangover
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Does make sense to me
BTW anyone tried this patch to get WIFI support on X1?
http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/diffs/git-diff_htc-msm-2.6.27_add-ti1251.diff
Best regards,
scholbert
BTW anyone tried this patch to get WIFI support on X1?
http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/diffs/git-diff_htc-msm-2.6.27_add-ti1251.diff
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Have to quote myself
The patch applies fine but after having a short glimpse, this one has been extracted from the SDK. No proper Kconfigs or Makefiles
So i don't think this huge patch is intended to go into kernel tree again.
AFAIK, there's also a lot of stuff for userland inside.
Insider may know more about it!
Perhaps for WIFI on the X1 it's better to start with a more clean driver.
You make have a look here:
http://osdir.com/ml/linux-wireless/2009-02/msg00390.html
I will try to integrate the patch to current 2.6.27-msm.
There's work to do of course, e.g. SDIO support and PM.
Best regards,
scholbert
I have no idea what you guys are saying.
But Android on the Xperia is f*****g awesome!
could any1 just quickly recap how close we are on a ROM with Android?
D4113R said:
I have no idea what you guys are saying.
But Android on the Xperia is f*****g awesome!
could any1 just quickly recap how close we are on a ROM with Android?
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though i understand just a little, id like to qoute myself on this
So what has to be done is get the linux drivers for al these hardware components and compile them to a kernel to make it fully working?
that probably ist going to be easy
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yes with htcraphael_defconfig xperia boots.
I will ask some people about 7xxxA jtag pins and let you know if I have any information.
scholbert said:
Have to quote myself
The patch applies fine but after having a short glimpse, this one has been extracted from the SDK. No proper Kconfigs or Makefiles
So i don't think this huge patch is intended to go into kernel tree again.
AFAIK, there's also a lot of stuff for userland inside.
Insider may know more about it!
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Right, It copies some revision (see date of file upload) of the android git ti1251. It should enable you to build the kernel module.
lgorris=dcordes
scholbert said:
Perhaps for WIFI on the X1 it's better to start with a more clean driver.
You make have a look here:
http://osdir.com/ml/linux-wireless/2009-02/msg00390.html
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It's no big secret the 10M google ti1251 driver is crap and it might really be better to use that wl12xx as soon as they have the SDIO.
scholbert said:
I will try to integrate the patch to current 2.6.27-msm.
There's work to do of course, e.g. SDIO support and PM.
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That will be nice. Let me know when you tried.
It seems the Jail Break/Root is coming to Windows Phone 8 soon. It may free more features from wp8. Looking forward to it. :laugh:
Room408Design said:
It seems the Jail Break/Root is coming to Windows Phone 8 soon. It may free more features from wp8. Looking forward to it. :laugh:
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For the moment, not too hope...
Yeah, the closest we have right now is the capability-unlock for Samsung phones. That's not a full root (working on it!) and beyond that, we have almost nothing.
GoodDayToDie said:
Yeah, the closest we have right now is the capability-unlock for Samsung phones. That's not a full root (working on it!) and beyond that, we have almost nothing.
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Anyone find any new news on this so called "920 Unlock" that has been claimed it will be released soon ? If this is true, this could open the doors to most WP devices...
The only thing I saw was Ultrashot saying it was a Riffbox "hack" (meaning you'd need to have some special hardware and probably physically open up your phone, to do it).
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The only thing I saw was Ultrashot saying it was a Riffbox "hack" (meaning you'd need to have some special hardware and probably physically open up your phone, to do it).
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It's still better than nothing ^^
CodingBird said:
It's still better than nothing ^^
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and that's also not that easy ( retail)
because the wp8 phones also have so called E-fuse in Soc
on retail they are blown ( even the Jtag E-fuses are blown)
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It's still better than nothing ^^
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its also unbelievably dodgy if you don't know what your doing.
You effectively connect directly to the ROM chip, an I mean that in a physical sense and rewrite any data you want, you can "root" anything doing this as you'll bypass any security measures, its just a matter of getting the correct software to flash on to the thing that's tricky, oh and the small matter cracking open your device, locating the chip, working out the necessary configurations to power it up and flash it
I did some research on this for the focus S and yes its possible but its way beyond my abilities
ceesheim said:
and that's also not that easy ( retail)
because the wp8 phones also have so called E-fuse in Soc
on retail they are blown ( even the Jtag E-fuses are blown)
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And there you have it, its even harder on WP8!
It's dispointing for sure....All I want is 3 rows of tiles and custom colors on my 928.... is this too much to ask ? (Not at Devs at Microsoft)...
Then get the ATIV Odyssey, which I just unlocked InteropUnlocked Sunday, except three tiles might be overkill on a 480x800 screen. O_0
I haven't updated to GDR3 yet because I'm not sure how to avoid Diagnosis' changes once I update.
It's been updated with a XAP...
http://www.silenstd.com/silenall/silentech/highxap/
any idea if it's any good or if we need an account to download it ?
DavidinCT said:
It's been updated with a XAP...
http://www.silenstd.com/silenall/silentech/highxap/
any idea if it's any good or if we need an account to download it ?
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Deploy with SDK, BUT: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2435697&page=48
lumia 625 root
Hi thanx for all the hard work.
Could anyone tell me if there is any way of rooting Lumia 625
meccy said:
Hi thanx for all the hard work.
Could anyone tell me if there is any way of rooting Lumia 625
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If you are 8.1 user use custom wpsystem and customPFD
also you can use resource hacker of djamol after that . Using resource hacker is not maybe very safe for this time so wait for it
Note that djamol's hacks don't make a complete root, though they are the closest thing that is public right now for a Lumia like yours. Nobody's going to say anything about a full root until it's ready, and ideally not even then not until after a major update (to give the most possible time before MS <REDACTED>s us over with an update that takes away control of our personal devices again).
Hi All,
You may or may not all ready know about this.... Spotted it via another via another thread for something completely different.
Further expanding to the link, exposed there was a heck of a lot of other roms that we apparently not aware of....
Feel free to visit: https://sourceforge.net/projects/spes-roms/files/
To see all the great work of: imtiaz-modder (imtiaz-modder, if you view these boards.... we thank you for your work !!!)
Thanks, Lister
Immmmmmmm totally amazeeeeeddd fr.
I mean how? How's that even possible?
Indeed there are too many of em and now I'mma try them one by ine
Unfortunately the list isn't actively updated, but it's a nice work regardless. I recommend searching for the specific ROM before you install because you might miss out on some updates
Thank you for sharing! Never know what to choose actually. But we have choice!
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Hi All,
You may or may not all ready know about this.... Spotted it via another via another thread for something completely different.
Further expanding to the link, exposed there was a heck of a lot of other roms that we apparently not aware of....
Feel free to visit: https://sourceforge.net/projects/spes-roms/files/
To see all the great work of: imtiaz-modder (imtiaz-modder, if you view these boards.... we thank you for your work !!!)
Thanks, Lister
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are these all safe to download and test out?
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are these all safe to download and test out?
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Hi Ictsz.roy,
I can't imagine these are any less safe, or more safe than other custom roms. I imagine they are just compiled by a hobbiest who is building roms for themselves, with no ill intentions and just sharing them.
I personally haven't tested any myself yet, as I am still fully stock for the time being. But at a later date, when I decided to rom and they are still available I have no issues trying/testing them then....
Cheers, Lister
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Hi Ictsz.roy,
I can't imagine these are any less safe, or more safe than other custom roms. I imagine they are just compiled by a hobbiest who is building roms for themselves, with no ill intentions and just sharing them.
I personally haven't tested any myself yet, as I am still fully stock for the time being. But at a later date, when I decided to rom and they are still available I have no issues trying/testing them then....
Cheers, Lister
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Hey Lister,
Thanks for the response. I get what you're saying. However, and this is just out of curiosity, (hypothetically speaking), if a rom zip file does contain some sort of malware, will your average antivirus software pick it up? Any thoughts?
Cheers.
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Hey Lister,
Thanks for the response. I get what you're saying. However, and this is just out of curiosity, (hypothetically speaking), if a rom zip file does contain some sort of malware, will your average antivirus software pick it up? Any thoughts?
Cheers.
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Hi Ictsz.roy,
No worries, you're welcome....
Here's how I see it, so depends what you mean by AV detecthing any malware within the rom....?
If you mean, will it be picked up by your computers AV... Depends if it's setup to scan within inside files, such as Zip files. And depends if the code within the zip file is known/triggered by desktop OS AV. It could be written so only readable/executable within Android OS. Most good AVs can detect this kinda of behavour. As I've seen APK files sitting on my drive being detected as risky.
However if you mean, what would happen if I flashed the rom, and it was packed with iffy code/apps/apks. I'd like to think that Googles own built in scanners would pick these up. I must admit I am very impressed with it up until now, even under older version of Android and without any official AV installed within Android OS, Google PlayServices have detected rogue apps. I've seen Android (Gingerbread) v2.3.6 detect iffy apps without any updates from the phones OEM itself. Google PlayServices gets updated regulary. Not to mention the Google PlayStore also has its own scan protection, and has flagged up many a apps in the past. And then if you go with your own trusted Android AV, such as Comodo, Avast and so on, they also have high detection rates.
So the likely hood of any iffy code/apps getting past Google's ecosystem will be remote these days I believe, just speaking of own personally experiences. Think the detection rate is very high now...
Cheers, Lister
Lister Of Smeg said:
Hi Ictsz.roy,
No worries, you're welcome....
Here's how I see it, so depends what you mean by AV detecthing any malware within the rom....?
If you mean, will it be picked up by your computers AV... Depends if it's setup to scan within inside files, such as Zip files. And depends if the code within the zip file is known/triggered by desktop OS AV. It could be written so only readable/executable within Android OS. Most good AVs can detect this kinda of behavour. As I've seen APK files sitting on my drive being detected as risky.
However if you mean, what would happen if I flashed the rom, and it was packed with iffy code/apps/apks. I'd like to think that Googles own built in scanners would pick these up. I must admit I am very impressed with it up until now, even under older version of Android and without any official AV installed within Android OS, Google PlayServices have detected rogue apps. I've seen Android (Gingerbread) v2.3.6 detect iffy apps without any updates from the phones OEM itself. Google PlayServices gets updated regulary. Not to mention the Google PlayStore also has its own scan protection, and has flagged up many a apps in the past. And then if you go with your own trusted Android AV, such as Comodo, Avast and so on, they also have high detection rates.
So the likely hood of any iffy code/apps getting past Google's ecosystem will be remote these days I believe, just speaking of own personally experiences. Think the detection rate is very high now...
Cheers, Lister
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Thanks again Lister. You're a trooper. Cheers.