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which navigation software?

can anyone give me an advise on which navigation software I should use on my kaiser? I tried tomtom already but didn't like pretty much.
thanks

darokka said:
can anyone give me an advise on which navigation software I should use on my kaiser? I tried tomtom already but didn't like pretty much.
thanks
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Can you tell us what it was about TomTom that you didn't like?

Hi,
don't try Navigon MobileNavigator in the Kaiser. Navigon stops navigation if the GPS-Signal is lost (e.g. driving through a tunnel). In this case you get the message "destiantion reached" and Navigon just shows where you are.
In general I believe NAvigon is better as TomTom but not on the Kaiser. It works very well on my Universal.
Cheers
Michael

Hi !
Correct... MN unusable if used in some tunnels (although it has a more professional touch).
I prefer igo... fast and usable and u can use skins.

Copilot Live 7 is pretty damned good.

flushbeer said:
Hi !
Correct... MN unusable if used in some tunnels (although it has a more professional touch).
I prefer igo... fast and usable and u can use skins.
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Same here. I have IGO and OCN6, which is VERY similar to IGO. . . actually I gave my son the OCN6 and I kept the IGO for myself.

i'm using tomtom myself and i found it to be the best one for me...

iNav iGuidance V4
I have been using iGuidance since I got the Tilt and I have to say it is a good program. Menus are nice and easy to use on the go. Speaks the street names to you and will let you change colors and 4 different views. It is available on different torrents and it doesnt require any registration for PPC install. There is a certain way everything has to be done. If you are able to download and need hepl just let me know. Free is always good. Kevin
http://dl.btjunkie.org/torrent/iGuid...0cca19f3d00335

I Guidance 4.0 and MN6
Hello,
I guidance 4.0 is the best with TTS and pretty fast to load. MN6 is very professional but lacks the TTS and otherwise it is pretty good with live view.
Price does matter..
Thanks
Raj..

Cootek TouchPal v.3

Has anyone tried it yet? Does it work? Looks nice, probably way better than the diamond one. I'm still waiting for my diamond so I can't try it out myself. If someone would be so kind, I'd really appreciate it.

slicker said:
Has anyone tried it yet? Does it work? Looks nice, probably way better than the diamond one. I'm still waiting for my diamond so I can't try it out myself. If someone would be so kind, I'd really appreciate it.
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Yes, Touchpal v3 is better then the Diamond one...
There are lots of staff in Touchpal V3 which Diamond one doesn't have.....

Does it also work in landscape mode? That is if you change the screen orientation by some other program first...

slicker said:
Does it also work in landscape mode? That is if you change the screen orientation by some other program first...
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Yes, I know what is landscape mode....
And answering to your question: Yes it does....

flaviopac said:
Yes, I know what is landscape mode....
And answering to your question: Yes it does....
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You misunderstood me I just wrote that bit of information just so that you know that I know that the screen doesn't rotate automatically on the diamond

TouchPal 3
I have been using Touchpal 3 for a while. I wouldnt use anything else. It is a great keyboard. You can change swizes on the fly, change keyboards instantly, store passwords and phrases. Works and looks great on my TD. Skinnable....get it..much better than TD keyboard.

wfhowell said:
I have been using Touchpal 3 for a while. I wouldnt use anything else. It is a great keyboard. You can change swizes on the fly, change keyboards instantly, store passwords and phrases. Works and looks great on my TD. Skinnable....get it..much better than TD keyboard.
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I must totally agree, great keyboard

I have it installed too, it is a great Keyboard but I have been experiencing lock ups when using it so currently using diamond one! gonna try going back to it again soon, see if the lock ups come back!!
Rich

Make sure you install in main memory, I've had lockups on TouchDual if installed in storage...

I can't get it to work. Intalls then says it needs to reboot to finish, then when it comes back on - nothing there?

nokmond said:
I can't get it to work. Intalls then says it needs to reboot to finish, then when it comes back on - nothing there?
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Make sure u download the version for Windows Mobile 6.1
I had the same problem, after downloading TouchPal for WM 6.1 everything worked fine

Better use FingertouchPro directly.
It's by far superior, supports several languages, and uses very little CPU. All in one, it's a more compact product, designed with high speed text input technologies , I've seen two on the website: www.fingertouchpro.com
Why choosing touchpal when are several other (better) alternatives?

slicker said:
Has anyone tried it yet? Does it work? Looks nice, probably way better than the diamond one. I'm still waiting for my diamond so I can't try it out myself. If someone would be so kind, I'd really appreciate it.
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I did, unfortunatelly

I tried it and had to give up. There is absolutely no way to move the 'space' key in the T9 layout, unlike the other layouts. Which makes it unsafe to use when holding in the right hand I find.

Did you enable "Allow drag able keys"?
I have no problem moving the keys around, ncluding space.

TouchPal V3 the greatest SIP by far. Ever since I had started using it I rarely use the slideout hardware keyboard on my TyTn II

slicker said:
Does it also work in landscape mode? That is if you change the screen orientation by some other program first...
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It does work in landscape mode, but not as you might expect:
it will not scale the buttons like for the iPhone. You will get left and right borders, so it is not easier to type with.
But: I bought it, the swifting feature is wonderful. Just try it, you have some day of fully free usage!

o0ldsch00lz said:
Better use FingertouchPro directly.
It's by far superior, supports several languages, and uses very little CPU. All in one, it's a more compact product, designed with high speed text input technologies , I've seen two on the website: www.fingertouchpro.com
Why choosing touchpal when are several other (better) alternatives?
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Better? Maybe in your opinion.
I, and many other people, find Touchpal much better and more advanced than the alternatives.
From the tone of your messages, it sounds like you had some problem with Touchpal...well fair enough, but maybe you should describe what the problem was?
I've been using Touchpal for some months, first on my Touch Cruise, and now on my Diamond, without any major problems. With the latest version 3.5 is just gets better and better.
Ben

Is version 3.5 really that much better then the Diamond's own keyboards ?
Obviously the sliding of keyboards and stretching are cool... but are the keys that much easier to use ? I know its not that expensive, but it still takes up space and cpu cycles on the phone.
Maybe good idea to see how well I get on with the built in keyboards first then instal the trial.

xda-addict said:
Did you enable "Allow drag able keys"?
I have no problem moving the keys around, ncluding space.
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Have looked everywhere and don't see that as an option. I can move the space key in the usual keyboard layouts but none other.
Any ideas where the setting is?
Cheers
EDIT
Apparently you can't move the space key in T9 layout due to the disambiguation that occurs down left side. A HUGE mistake in my opinion as having the space to the right makes this a very unsafe keyboard to use right handed. My Diamond is too precious to risk dropping for a space key. Back to the original T9 for me then! That's a lost purchase on CooTek side.

iGO 8 or iGO 2006 on HTC Touch Pro

I'v been trying to install iGO 8 or iGO 2006 on my new HTC Touch Pro.
It seems to install just fine from the SD card, but when I try to start-up, nothing happens. The "loading" symbol appears for a few seconds, then ... nothing.
Can anyone pls help?
Thank you so much.
LE: I am using ROM version: 1.90.401.1 WWE

update to newer version (8.0.0.44366) or disable HTC home from Today

paulyluca said:
I'v been trying to install iGO 8 or iGO 2006 on my new HTC Touch Pro.
It seems to install just fine from the SD card, but when I try to start-up, nothing happens. The "loading" symbol appears for a few seconds, then ... nothing.
Can anyone pls help?
Thank you so much.
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U are in the wrong section. This is Kaiser thread.

sorry about that. i am new here. maybe a mod can help me by moving it to the right place.

paulyluca said:
sorry about that. i am new here. maybe a mod can help me by moving it to the right place.
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its all ok, just post your question in the touch pro section.
But I think its not necesary, u already have the answer.

Moved to Raphael, aka Touch Pro, Forum.

HTC Touch Pro do not seem to have HTC Home. In the "Today" settings, there is the HTC Touch Flo enabeled. I tried to runn iGO with it desabeled, but no succes.
So, I think there must be some other way...

Install iGo8, then search for the latest update. Install the latest update, remove the iGo8 Today plugin in Setting > Today > Items, and add a link in the "Programs" tab of TF3D. That should do it (works fine on my Touch Pro)

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Install iGo8, then search for the latest update. Install the latest update, remove the iGo8 Today plugin in Setting > Today > Items, and add a link in the "Programs" tab of TF3D. That should do it (works fine on my Touch Pro)
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Thank you so much!!!
Got it working now....

Just a quick question, does it work in landscape mode on the touch pro?

Uhm, I don't know why it isn't working for you because on my Touch Pro it works great. Just installed it, copied the appropriate files for my country (the Netherlands) into the appropriate dirs as mentioned in the readme and that's it. Uhm, no, I had to set the GPS on com4 in iGo8 to get the gps working but that was all I had to do.
paulyluca said:
I'v been trying to install iGO 8 or iGO 2006 on my new HTC Touch Pro.
It seems to install just fine from the SD card, but when I try to start-up, nothing happens. The "loading" symbol appears for a few seconds, then ... nothing.
Can anyone pls help?
Thank you so much.
LE: I am using ROM version: 1.90.401.1 WWE
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l0st.prophet said:
Just a quick question, does it work in landscape mode on the touch pro?
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Just tried it. Works great in landscape too.

Can you confirm that the maps render and scroll smoothly when navigating now unlike the jerky movement you have with the Kaiser?

I can't compare with the Kaiser, I never had one. But map scrolling seems ok to me.

Hmm I got the same problem.. How do you actually update it?
I just bought my htc pro touch so bear with me please.
i installed it. everything seemed fine, i click on it, i get a loading icon, nothing happens.

Keyboard?
Hi,
iGO8 seems to work, but I can't get the hw keyboard to function. Not one key seems to respond. Does everyone else have this problem?
Thanks,
Cheers,
Cacti

i dont understand why there are reported problems with the gps software on this phone. is there anything outhere that just works , without tweaks or anything of the sort?
is the co pilot 7 better than igo8? in terms of usability by someone who doesnt understand how all this works

I have tested iGO8, TomTom 7, and Garmin XT. All work fine on the Touch Pro (but I did not test hardware keyboard input).
In my case, I found Garmin to have the best GPS performance: only 2-3 seconds lag behind my separate Garmin nuvi 760 unit, and <30 secs for first fix most of the time. iGO and TT are a little slower but still work fine -- but other people find iGO or TT to work very well.
Other thoughts: TT has the most detailed roadmaps, iGO and Garmin are average. But I find Garmin has the best POI support. iGO (and I think TT, also) supports TMC but (so far) it cannot be activated on the Raphael. Garmin does not have TMC but can download traffic from its servers via your data connection (3G, EDGE, etc). For me, Garmin is a solid middle-of-the-road software; the only major drawback is no TTS, which iGO and TT both have.
I haven't tested Co-Pilot 7, but since it's based on iGO core (iirc) I probably won't try it. But of course, you should try demo maps or at least read reviews to find out which software is good for you.
stranger stel said:
i dont understand why there are reported problems with the gps software on this phone. is there anything outhere that just works , without tweaks or anything of the sort?
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To help clarify, there are two separate issues. The first is that many GPS software comes on SD cards that are intended to be kept on the SD, or on CD to be installed to main device memory, though if you buy it you have every right to install it to your Raphael. Since the Raphael only has microSD, you may have to install the program in a certain way to get it running. You also have to be careful of the software version, since not all are compatible with WM6.1. (These issues come up all the time among people pirating the software.)
The other issue is about the GPS receiver in the Raphael. Lots of people are trying different tweaks to get the best performance (ie: no lag) out of their receiver. But it's unclear if it's a problem with a weak antenna, or if certain programs (iGO, Garmin, TomTom) run better/worse on the Raphael. The results have been somewhat mixed but we're gradually figuring everything out.

Hi, I am trying to install IGO 8 on the HTC touch Pro, Raphael. The installation seems ok but when I launch the program, nothing happens. The rainbow circle shows up but then nothing. I am wondering what I am doing wrong. Could someone please advise?
Thanks in advance.

aznfrenchboyca said:
Hi, I am trying to install IGO 8 on the HTC touch Pro, Raphael. The installation seems ok but when I launch the program, nothing happens. The rainbow circle shows up but then nothing. I am wondering what I am doing wrong. Could someone please advise?
Thanks in advance.
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Just install a newer wersion: 8.0.0.44366 or 8.0.0.54000 and it will work just fine.

logmein keyboard issue **SOLVED**

o.k. There seems to be two ways to solve this.
If you want to keep the software keyboard do this:
go here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...2&postcount=36
1. Download & install the KforTouchPro app.
2. Launch KforTouchPro (It is installed into the Games folder)
3. Click the Switch to M$ IME button.
4. Click Minimize in the lower right corner
5. Launch Logmein using PIE
6. Type away using your hardware keyboard.
If you only use the Hardware Keyboard and do not want to use KforTouchPro:
This is a simple Regedit.
[HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Layouts\e001 0409]
(MS IME mode)
Ime File = \windows\compime.dll
Layout Text = COMP IME
-or-
(HTC T9 mode)
Ime File = \windows\eT9ime.dll
Layout Text = eT9 IME
WOO HOO!!!!!!!! Thank you very much to KevinGibert, fhsieh, and Colorado_al

ricrellim said:
I am using pie on an at&t Fuze. The keyboard does not respond? I have seen several folks on here that say they use logmein.
Is this a fuze issue or a logmein issue?
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Same issue, on my TouchPro, with stock ROM and now with Elite ROM, same issue.
Anyone got any work around?

Same problem. Since my previous device was a Touch, I never missed/used a slide out keyboard. The keyboard works just fine on the Kaiser. I'm going to question Logmein on this issue.

glad to see i am not alone! I have been having the same problem

Yeah, one thing I dont understand is that the virtual keyboard from the apps doesnt work either...?
Also what Cab are you guys using for the remote client?
RACtrlCE?

I'm having the same issue, I think it would help if we all submitted a support ticket.

Ah, crap. Me too.
There is a workaround:
If you change your input method to the default WM keyboard by pressing to the right of the keyboard icon and choosing "Keyboard" before you start the session, you will be able to use the soft-keyboard. Still no hardware keyboard.
It sucks, but at least it works. If I can't have a fully functional LMI setup on my FUZE, I'm returning it.

colorado_al said:
Ah, crap. Me too.
There is a workaround:
If you change your input method to the default WM keyboard by pressing to the right of the keyboard icon and choosing "Keyboard" before you start the session, you will be able to use the soft-keyboard. Still no hardware keyboard.
It sucks, but at least it works. If I can't have a fully functional LMI setup on my FUZE, I'm returning it.
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No go... that didn't work for me. I submitted a ticket and the tech did not understand what the problem was, I resubmitted. this is going to have to get resolved soon.

Nice, keep us posted, thanks for taking the time to make a ticket =)

labbbby said:
Nice, keep us posted, thanks for taking the time to make a ticket =)
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No prob, will do.

Fix
Here's an app someone made in another thread. Basically the reason the hardware keyboard won't work with some legacy apps is because of the way the touch pro's auto completion system works. This app lets you switch it off.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2791652&postcount=36

Has anyone had the opportunity to test this app yet? I dont have my fuze with me today because I was kind enough to swap phones with my wife today to see if she wants to upgrade from her BB Pearl.
I would love to know if this works so I can update the first post with the info.

gatordent said:
No go... that didn't work for me. I submitted a ticket and the tech did not understand what the problem was, I resubmitted. this is going to have to get resolved soon.
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Make sure you're not using T9. On the QWERTY KBD, there is a switch for ABC - T9. Make sure it says ABC, then switch keyboards, and try it again.
Not sure, but worth a try.

I just tried the above posted CAB and it still does not work. The only keys that work... and they worked prior to the CAB were the arrow keys and the Del key.
Al,
Which ROM are you using?

I tried with this CAB in the past, didnt help.
T9 is one of the first thing I disable as well...
I just tryed again with Elite ROM, no changes. I can use shift/tab/del/enter/arrows, but no letters/numers/special characters =(

Just spoke to Support, they know about the issue, it has been escalated but there is no fix at this time nor is there a timeframe for an update.
Just wait till more people get there hands on FUZEs from AT&T, then they will blow their FUSEs!
So right now the best thing I can think of is to enable the onscreen keyboard (OSK.EXE) in windows and place a shortcut on ur quick lauch. What a shame... that we have this nice slideout keyboard and no use for it!

I feel bad for the people who pay for logmein pro, although I am sure they have more influence than I do as a free user.

ricrellim said:
I feel bad for the people who pay for logmein pro, although I am sure they have more influence than I do as a free user.
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That would me me... Unfortunately, I don't think I influenced anyone during that call. Not to say that 200 - 300 support tickets for the same issue wouldn't either. IMO I think anyone having problems with the TP keyboard and logmein should report it to Logmein whether they pay or not, it might get them to move on it a bit faster.
https://secure.logmein.com/products/pro/supportcs.asp

I just submitted this just now...
Hello, I am currently unable to use the built-in keyboard of my new phone in Windows Mobile 6.1.
My phone is a HTC Touch Pro also known as the ATT Fuze, I and other user of the same phone all have the same issue.
I am told it`s a known Issue, can I expect a patch/workaround or a newer CAB to address this issue?
Thanks
Nicolas
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You might try the software found in this post:
http://www.forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2791652&postcount=36
It changes the weird raphael IME to a default one. Works for me in PocketGBA and even DOSBox and TomTom.
If it works, maybe you encourage the author to open a thread especially for this software as I searched quite a while to find a workin solution for the strange keyboard behaviour.

iGo Amigo for Kaiser

Does anyone have any experience of getting iGo Amigo working with their Kaiser? TTS?

works fine...
but i had to turn off "assisted gps" function. Not tried TTS.

Thanks rothod.
TTS is what I'm looking for. Can you try it?
Also, have you previously used iGo 8? If so, do you find Amigo better, or worse?

Works very well for most aspects. Updated graphics and new interface. TTS works perfectly. Major 'bug' of backlighting controlled by Windows with no override by program. Can use on 8.3 maps.

rothod said:
but i had to turn off "assisted gps" function.
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Where is that option?

ben_ifa said:
Also, have you previously used iGo 8? If so, do you find Amigo better, or worse?
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The display a bit more cartoonish - more like Garmin's than the clean iGo8.3. TTS a bit more precise in pronounciation, and more courteous - lots more "Please turn" etc. Too chatty for my liking.
Still prefer iGo8.3

Amigo has less options

Hmmm.. thanks lads.
Going to install iGo 8 then. This is what I've been using on my trusty (old) Mio 269+ for months mow, and I love it.
Was going to use Amigo on my HTC TyTN II (when I eventually receive the device!), but I think I'll put iGo 8 on it instead.

Anyone know how to get amigo to run from today screen if i copy exe to phone it will not load. cheers

BURT6248 said:
Anyone know how to get amigo to run from today screen if i copy exe to phone it will not load. cheers
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You have to make a shortcut in start menu

Got it now thanks

IGO 8.3.2.64873 With TTS - OK
Hi all
I have the PDACorner X-V1 and I just installed the iGO 8.3.2.64873 with TTS files, and it seems to be working, I heard the TTS voice when I choosed my language, and iGO is now running.

I have both working on my Tilt fine. Amigo is nice, however iGO8 will still be my primary GPS program.

iGo8.3.2.64873 -
IS there a solution on how to make IGO find the satellites faster ?? i read many comments from others in this forum but somehow i could not find any proper answer.
IGO6 plus it is finding the satellites very fast when comparing these two..
comments/advice it will be appreciated.
iGo8.3.2.64873
Att tilt , W.M6.1

Go to the Save folder>system.ini and add your [GPS] information there (baud rate, port).

Am I allowed to ask if there is an IGO8 .cab... and if so please someone tell me where?
Thank you so much.

kareem9nba said:
Go to the Save folder>system.ini and add your [GPS] information there (baud rate, port).
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Kareem9nba,
I tried but still the same...
this is what it is in the save system.ini FILE
[gps]
baud="57600"
[local]
voice_key="Eng_us_m1"
voice_path_hint="voice\Voice_Eng-us-m1.zip"
language_lcid="1033"
language_key="english US"
lang_path_hint="lang\Lang_English-us_Pna.zip"
dateformat="6"
P.S. IGO8 ..search in the google.

abovenbeyond said:
Am I allowed to ask if there is an IGO8 .cab... and if so please someone tell me where?
Thank you so much.
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No, it's not allowed as it falls under warez. Plus, it doesn't even come in cab form.
@ fatosb, have you tried running Quick GPS or Quick Position?

kareem9nba said:
No, it's not allowed as it falls under warez. Plus, it doesn't even come in cab form.
@ fatosb, have you tried running Quick GPS or Quick Position?
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Well yes , i noticed the strange thing even in the google maps, it is not showing the corret position..
i tried Quick GPS, google maps, igo8 ...
is there anything else that i can try !
waiting...
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Today i have installed TomTom just to see if the proble is with the software.
just for the information , Tom Tom locks like 7 satellites in 20 seconds, where Igo8 and Igo6 plus , take at least 1 minute >>??
any suggestion how to fix the IGO ( since i have maps for it)
...waiting for ideas..

i used kaiser tweak too turn off "assisted gps" function