Why HTC Touch Diamond has Multitouch if it is never used ???
watch the video
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=hljoYtITLJY&feature=related
wow...that's really interesting!
I'm new to the diamond so I dont know too much about it yet, but that looks quite exciting!
adempozhari said:
Why HTC Touch Diamond has Multitouch if it is never used ???
watch the video
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=hljoYtITLJY&feature=related
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sry but thats not "multitouch" as people know it.
People reffer to multitouch when you the touchdisplay can handle more then a single input.
Hornet331 said:
sry but thats not "multitouch" as people know it.
People reffer to multitouch when you the touchdisplay can handle more then a single input.
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Let's say the touch screen (display?) is not multitouch, but the touch pad is.
The question of the topic has not been answered yet then:
why there is no ROM/Software using this multitouch function?
It would be great for control, for instance in games, to be able to use this multitouch function and other functionality of what seems to be one of the more advanced touch pad in mobile phone industry.
It looks like HTC was just trying out the hardware and drivers for this function and saves its use for future phone releases...
It's not true that no software uses the touch panel - any software using smart scrolling or zooming is using this fuction, also HTC camera uses it for autofocus. Some members here have also attempted to use it for locking/unlocking applications, among other things.
The problem is that none of the other 'big' developers are writing just for the Diamond.
adempozhari said:
Why HTC Touch Diamond has Multitouch if it is never used ???
watch the video
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=hljoYtITLJY&feature=related
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TouchLockPro uses the capacitive hardware area for unlocking.
Yes but no one is using the "multi" touch properties of the touchpad.
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Yes but no one is using the "multi" touch properties of the touchpad.
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True, but can you think of any uses?
Also, to be pedantic, this is not multi-touch - it's simultaneous use of separate controls, something that WM 6.1 has always been able to handle.
(posted from my HTC Touch Diamond)
Davey101 said:
It's not true that no software uses the touch panel - any software using smart scrolling or zooming is using this fuction, also HTC camera uses it for autofocus. Some members here have also attempted to use it for locking/unlocking applications, among other things.
The problem is that none of the other 'big' developers are writing just for the Diamond.
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You must have missed the point of this thread and the point I was stressing in my post: Multitouch.
The program you're talking about, uses the capacity of touch panel for REPETITIVE touches at the same point, but not the MULTI-TOUCH capacity at the same time.
Same thing for smart scrolling, it does use the directional capacity of the touch panel, but not the simultaneous touch of different areas of the panel.
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True, but can you think of any uses?
Also, to be pedantic, this is not multi-touch - it's simultaneous use of separate controls, something that WM 6.1 has always been able to handle.
(posted from my HTC Touch Diamond)
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It's true that this is not pure multitouch, but at least it is simultaneous use different areas of the same control panel.
The question is not whether or not Windows Mobile has the capacity to use it. It is which program (except that specific HTC Debug Tool of course) available for Windows Mobile is actually using it... I can think of none.
If you're asking for ideas, there are loads of applications using it on the Iphone (games, browsers etc.). I don't see why it can be used on the Iphone and not on the Touch Diamond and Pro.
Except what I was pointing out in my post: lack of real will and policy to do it.
Apple has clearly focused its marketing policy on this multitouch capacity while HTC has not...
As I said, they just tested the hardware and drivers and saving the actual development for future devices...
But it is a fact that those capacities are under exploited. At least, they could have specially designed one or more games just for making use of this feature like they did for Teeter and the accelerometer.
here's an idea for the touch panel we all know our diamond has four buttons the two phone buttons a back and home button but with the multi-touch or whatever you want to call it you could have the ability to add four more buttons and then remap all of them for instance touching the phone button would bring up the phone and pressing it would launch a program. Maybe we can find some one to make that.
There is no multi touch because windows mobile 6.1 doesn't support it. When windows 7 comes out, it will support multi touch and we'll see the touch pro take advantage of that.
Hardware touch pad
The hardware pad reacts like an I-pod. If you open a photo, you can zoom in-and out with both fingers like an I-pod (zooming in by moving your fingers to each other, zooming out by moving the opposite way). It is a bit unsensitive but it works !
ok if there are apps out there that use this, does anyone know wher the API is?? Thanks!
may be HTC is waiting for WM7.0
I think touch pad can not be used often
yes but someone mentioned apps that use these features in another thread, also, the NavDbgTool uses it, so there definately is some undocumented functions!!
*prays that someone hacks it!*
giddy said:
yes but someone mentioned apps that use these features in another thread, also, the NavDbgTool uses it, so there definately is some undocumented functions!!
*prays that someone hacks it!*
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yes , i started this thread to find out if someone can hack them...for example to answer a call just by touching the pad....
I think due Apple has patent on the multi-touch , so MS can't do it , about the patent u can see example:
http://www.macobserver.com/article/2006/10/09.2.shtml
psvillars said:
here's an idea for the touch panel we all know our diamond has four buttons the two phone buttons a back and home button but with the multi-touch or whatever you want to call it you could have the ability to add four more buttons and then remap all of them for instance touching the phone button would bring up the phone and pressing it would launch a program. Maybe we can find some one to make that.
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This sounds very much like GScroll:
http://www.mobilesrc.com/GScroll.aspx
vondee7 said:
The hardware pad reacts like an I-pod. If you open a photo, you can zoom in-and out with both fingers like an I-pod (zooming in by moving your fingers to each other, zooming out by moving the opposite way). It is a bit unsensitive but it works !
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Just to add comment on this... being able to use two fingers to zoom in and out does not mean it's multi-touch... it's actually calculating an average of your 2 touches, which is why you're finding that it's less sensitive. If you just use one finger and rotate it around the pad then it zooms in and out with a good level of sensitivity.
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The mobilitysite.com review of the Tilt claims there is not Touchflo on the Tilt. Can any one verify this? If so is this something the xda folks will be able to restore with out replacing the Tilt ROM with TyTn II's ROM?
Thanks,
JL
Jenna Louis said:
The mobilitysite.com review of the Tilt claims there is not Touchflo on the Tilt. Can any one verify this? If so is this something the xda folks will be able to restore with out replacing the Tilt ROM with TyTn II's ROM?
Thanks,
JL
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TRY POSTING ONLY ONCE AND YOU MIGHT GET A BETTER RESPONCE! THERE IS TOUCHFLOW ON THE KAISER AND TILT!
There is, it is in the control pannel.
fgrump123 said:
There is, it is in the control pannel.
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I think Jenna is referring to the AT&T branded kaiser, the 8925 which is being released tomorrow.
it has touch flow people not the CUBE from the "touch/elf" but touchflow scrolling
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http://www.perceptivepixel.com
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Dude, that is amazing... what was your participation in this project?
evolution_theory said:
Dude, that is amazing... what was your participation in this project?
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Agreed - that was spectacular.
Bratag said:
Agreed - that was spectacular.
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wow!!!!!!!!!!
Perceptive pixel
. . . cool but what's it for?
I have the 8925 and it does have the limited touchflo capabilities like the Kaiser-- but it's practically useless. It doesn't "flo" at all.
I like the TouchFLO-lite feature. Much easier to use with finger than without. To each his/her own I guess.
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I have the 8925 and it does have the limited touchflo capabilities like the Kaiser-- but it's practically useless. It doesn't "flo" at all.
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You can change the sensitivity by using a reg tweak: HKLM-DRIVERS-TOUCHPANEL-PRESSURE THRESHOLD. Increase it for more sensitivity.
The way TouchFLO works is this:
use a finger (not your fingernail) to "drag" the screen up/down (or even left/right if the page is wider than the screen). The page should drag with your finger. It's semi-smooth. Not truly smooth, but smooth enough. When you drag, DON'T lift your finger from the screen till you've got it positioned to your desired spot.
OR
If you use your finger (not your fingernail) to swipe up or down AND LIFT your finger fromthe screen as you do it, then the screen with scroll by itself to the end in that direction or until you tap the screen again to stop it.
OR
if you use the stylus or your fingernail, then it will NOT scroll like above. It will then behave like a normal stylus control (highlites and selects instead of scrolling).
So, the screen reads a broad touch (like your finger) differently than a narrow/pinpoint touch (like your nail or stylus).
once I got used to it, i found it to be an excellent upgrade in the interface.
I turned it off, it was getting in the way of selecting emails in nPop with the classic drag to select feature.
I was expecting to see the "CUBE" interface too, wonder they don't have it on the Kaiser.
I am very confused reading all the foroums, both Kaiser and Cruise.
I really dont know which one to buy.
My only concern for Kaiser is its weight and thickness. I dont mind the lack of FM radio on Kaiser. But the keyboard is it really handy.
On the other hand can you really type on cruise without the keyboard?
Is there any difference on the screen. I mean, is the Screen of the Cruise more touch sensitive? Is the Cruise more responsive to finger tapping?
Also, Is there any difference using them in direct sunlight?
Apart from the keyborad and FM radio are there any other significant differences? The Cube u can also have on Kaiser.
Please advise
Thanks
Well because of this site you can probably have teh cube on any device you want almost, so that shouldn't be a decision maker.
As for responsivness, this can be changed via software on the devices, (screen sensitivty, touchflo gesture delays, etc). Not device specific i dont believe.
Yes, the kaiser is a little thicker and heavier, but no matter what device i have, its going in the same pocket or hand, regardless of size.
My guess is that the screen material is the same for most devices, so i don't see that being a difference either.
AS for the cruise keyboard, i am assuming it will use the same keyboard the htc Touch has, the big button on screen keyboard. This you canalso get for the Kaiser, though right now it's having its problems with the xt9 functionality sometimes. I use PocketCM keyboard with an XL touch skin that makes it better for 1 thumb screen typing.
I don't think you should be worried about apps that come with either device.
As you said, the big differences are FM radio/hardware keyboard/weight. I guess it depends what you want more.
As for other hardware i don't know what the cruise has, maybe the same, but i do know the kaiser is full hardware buttons and dial for scrolling, etc. I love all the hard buttons as you have 4-5 ways of navigating your device depending on how you are holding it. on screen taping, cube navigation, left side buttons for navigation, front face plate buttons for navigating, stylus for navigating.
They hardware keyboard on tytn ii was really what sold me, and the tilting screen. i MUST have a hardware keyboard, and this one is huge.
thank you very much...was very helpful.
how can you put the Cube on Kaiser?
chris2004 said:
thank you very much...was very helpful.
how can you put the Cube on Kaiser?
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This should help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=354715&highlight=htc+cube
YOu can look at the kaiser upgrading section for Kaiser, or development and hacking. Just read as much as you can you will learn a lot and it ends up being very easy if you follow instructions. Also use the search function of hte forum.
People rip the cube application from Touch and make an installation file so you can install on whatever device. They even make apps so you can configure what buttons do what, what gestures (left to right, top to bottom, etc) do what. It's really quite amazing.
Another fellow made a cube clone out of Flash which was customizable. THe same fellow is now working on a new cube clone that is ridiculously fast compared to his flash cube and the original htc cube, where you can customize also.
Developers on this site are amazing and do a great job of getting us apps that other devices come with. New people like yourself, and me awhile ago, don't realize that just because the Touch has cube navigation, doesn't mean our kaiser can't have it. THe devices may look totaly different on the outside, but on the inside they are almost the same.
Hi everyone,
i truely believe the new 3d Touchflo is a piece of art technology, however, could anyone here kindly to link me how to install the previous HTC home plugin ...coz i found it's more easy to use at this moment.
thks alot
search my friend
http://www.google.com/custom?num=10...:forum.xda-developers.com+htchomeplug&spell=1
Rory
chocodip said:
Hi everyone,
i truely believe the new 3d Touchflo is a piece of art technology, however, could anyone here kindly to link me how to install the previous HTC home plugin ...coz i found it's more easy to use at this moment.
thks alot
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The HTC CIO may be curled up in a corner crying now...
crying?
i think he has tears in his eyes from laughing.
why do a lot of people always insist that older is better.
touchflo 3d has way more options and is much fingerfriendlier than the old version.
so just a tip: do not use your stylus, but use your fingers. you will find that using the touch flo 3d really is a lot easier
looks beautiful runs terrible
i gave up! touchflow 3D, simply too slow and couldnt catch up with my finger.
will leave it for showing off when demo to friends only...
Yeah, it's not easier at all. It's much more work to get to the media player now, where as I could assign it to a hardware key on the Kaiser. Navigating the Kaiser with keyboard mnemonics was definitely faster and easier. TouchFLO 3D requires so much more finger/hand/eye movement in order to access the same information that would have been already on your screen right away.
I also hate having to scroll through all of the Cities in the US in order to get to Yonkers, NY for the weather. It was way easier when I could just type the name of the City in the HTC Home plug in. These iPhone-style lists are horribly frustrating to use.
I, think the regular touchflo is simpler to use because it is exactly that (simple) & boring... a few tabs and thats it. However TouchFlo3D has much more options, looks sweet, touch friendly & interactive; the fact that it takes more time to getting use to or figuring out does not bother me at all.
With this new plugin I rarely see the windows UI and I think that makes a huge difference, at least for me it does.
Another point to consider is how you use the device or what for? I use it primarily for the web, weather, texting & GPS & all of these are extremely easy for me to get to. As far as the extra scrolling to choose a specific city under weather should not be in issue, I set my city & a couple others in no-time when I got my phone and that's it no more scrolling.
I remember some time ago nokia, samsung, SE, mortorola etc all the big names done some stuidies and figured out the max number of key presses it should take to get to ANY menu option. It seems with all this fancy scrolling lists and interfaces thats lost now.
Even in an iphone - which you may hate, but is probably the best touch interface - its not exactly fast to get to things.
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I remember some time ago nokia, samsung, SE, mortorola etc all the big names done some stuidies and figured out the max number of key presses it should take to get to ANY menu option. It seems with all this fancy scrolling lists and interfaces thats lost now.
Even in an iphone - which you may hate, but is probably the best touch interface - its not exactly fast to get to things.
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I've said this before - in experiments comparing the iPhone and the old TouchFLO, it was faster on average to get to things using TouchFLO.
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Yeah, it's not easier at all. It's much more work to get to the media player now, where as I could assign it to a hardware key on the Kaiser. Navigating the Kaiser with keyboard mnemonics was definitely faster and easier. TouchFLO 3D requires so much more finger/hand/eye movement in order to access the same information that would have been already on your screen right away.
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Well, the devices are aimed at completely different markets. HTC generally aim their devices with keyboards at business users, whereas the Touch Diamond is a high-end general consumer product.
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i gave up! touchflow 3D, simply too slow and couldnt catch up with my finger.
will leave it for showing off when demo to friends only...
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There are now tweaks that will speed up TouchFLO 3D quite a lot. Search this forum.
so......
will the old type of htc home plug in work with diamond?
i too was happy using it (on my trinity)
would be nice to have the choice
with the tabs you had people..weather apps...and more
so does anyone know before i bugger my diamond up
I think TouchFlow 3D is great, easy to use and looks very nice.
The only thing I'm missing are my tasks on the Todayscreen. On my Touch I used them as a reminder for certain things, but when you don't see them right away when turning on the phone they're useless.
I installed a Version of HTC Home Plugin earlier today on my dad's diamond and well... i guess it just isn't fit for a VGA Display. It is very small and the porportions are messed up. Anyone already tried to get HTC Home to work or knows of any VGA Version maybe?
I used to use Touch Commander on my Asus P750, as far as I'm concerned it's an exact copy which will work in VGA mode, as the P750 also had a VGA screen.
http://www.touch-commander.com/
But then again, with Dutty's ROM and the registry tweaks, TF3D runs pretty smooth.
Htc home vga
Samson711 said:
I installed a Version of HTC Home Plugin earlier today on my dad's diamond and well... i guess it just isn't fit for a VGA Display. It is very small and the porportions are messed up. Anyone already tried to get HTC Home to work or knows of any VGA Version maybe?
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Alright, I have had this issue too. Here is a cab for the Home Plugin for VGA devices (works on my TP).
I AM NOT TAKING CREDIT FOR THIS, JUST SHARING THE .CAB I FOUND SOMEWHERE ON THIS FORUM LOOKING FOR THIS. MADE BY PJC
Hope this helps out those who need it.
EDIT: For some reason could not upload file, nonetheless, I found the download, click on the link and download. http://rapidshare.com/files/128745613/PJC_HTCHome.cab
Also, for those that want the thread and updates from it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406418
Here is how it works:
* not the display but the surface under the display of HTC Touch Diamond, HTC Touch Pro and other compatible phones from HTC - is actually a capacitive touch-area with multi-touch
* by now this surface is used mainly for "wheel" gestures for example to zoom-in/out (see our article about zooming with wheel in HTC Touch Diamond) or to fast-forward in player etc., and the multi-touch-ness of this surface is not used, but since it works (as seen above) HTC could implement "finger pinching gesture" and "finger spreading gesture" - for zooming for example. One could also implement "2 finger moving" for panning gesture for example too. One is for sure: it is supported in hardware and software can read it
* HTC previously already was revealing that the area under display is a capacitive touch-area, but nothing was mentioned about multi-touch - not all capacitive touch-areas are multi-touch at the same time!
* note: latest subnotebooks (netbooks) Eee PC from Asus have multi-touch touch-pad and no display with multi-touch but they use several multi-touch gestures (which work!) - what proves that HTC could do similar thing with multi-touch support in HTC Touch Diamond and HTC Touch Pro
* to try it yourself download ZIP file here and use file NavDbgTool.exe from it
* you can see this multi-touch in action on a video here
Commentary: we think that it would be huge mistake of Microsoft not to include support for multi-touch in Windows Mobile 7. Now that Apple iPhone and iPhone 3G support multi-touch and many applications that take advantage of it have been released, it is obvious that no modern smartphone platform can get away without multi-touch. The fact that existing phones support multi-touch, albeit not in the display, shows that it is feasible in Windows Mobile too.
We have another thing to play beside the light sensor and the tilt sensor..
Source: http://msmobiles.com/news.php/7580.html
Just saw this on another forum....
Indeed, its great news, cant wait till we can enjoy this function along with Android....
Nice, but please use the search! We all know this since a few weeks, because we all talked about it in a few threads here on xda-devs.
Amazing
That is amazing. I wonder why the hell would HTC _not_ present this as another innovation. I've seen times and times again companies brag about "virtual" features that were never actually there (the "GPS" without GPS hardware of the first iPhone comes to mind), but rarely does one see a company implement such a great feature (such as multitouch) and don't even talk about it.
So is there an API for this?
this is great news
Multi touch is possible on the diamond
Check out this youtube link. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3Owgcos_KY
Multi touch but not where you'd expect it to work.
Diamond Multi Touch
Found this on Engadget:
http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/20/htcs-touch-diamond-pro-are-multi-touch-gods-just-not-how-you/
COOL!
Come on chefs... cook us up a multi touch ROM
Lovely,we now have 3 threads on this, all still visible on the main page. Can't we just use the following:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=418936
would work wonderfully with WM7, which also has multi-touch features, and also supports phones as low as the HTC touch dual, which has a 400MHz with 128RAM, while the HTC Diamond a 528MHz with 192RAM.
Great news!
dreaming right now of that WM7 cooked HTC Diamond TF3D ROM
Great find, thanks!
Merged everything!
does this work on the front screen of the diamond
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Interesting. So the whole area with the hardware buttons is touch sensitive! That could be useful.
This could be really useful, but it isn't "real" multi touch.
Using the test tool, you'll notice that it's 3 separate touch areas - the left side, the right side, and the scroll wheel.
For instance, you can't touch twice on the left hand side of the screen.
I can see some pretty useful features where you can use the main touch screen, and the touch areas at the bottom independantly at the same time though.
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That is amazing. I wonder why the hell would HTC _not_ present this as another innovation. I've seen times and times again companies brag about "virtual" features that were never actually there (the "GPS" without GPS hardware of the first iPhone comes to mind), but rarely does one see a company implement such a great feature (such as multitouch) and don't even talk about it.
So is there an API for this?
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Well. The GPS wihtout GPS has been working on any GSM phone for quite a while. Has nothing at all to do with the Fruit Phone my friend. It uses triangulation of GPS transceivers to give you a rough localization. So there. Fruit did not invent that. It's been built into Google maps since a few versions back.
now everything we need is an app to configure gestures, so that we can use this new feature of our jewel in everyday use. Any news about that?
I know that Diamond has "multi-touch" pad since a long time as I implemented this feature in my TouchXperience UI, but I didn't know there would be so much enthusiasm about it!
In fact, it is not really multi-touch, the whole control pad is divided in different sensitive zones (left, right, middle, navigation scroll and center pad), each zone is controlled individually and you can get finger position simultaneously on left/right part of the control pad and on the navigation scroll.
For those who didn't see it yet, I realized some videos demonstrating the use of Diamond sensitive pad in TouchXperience: www.touchxperience.com
But I didn't use "multi-touch" because I thought the interest of using two fingers on a so small surface is very limited and not so convenient... But maybe you could convince me of the contrary with some useful applications of multi-touch and I could work on it.
Engadget claims that the front screen is also multi-touch capable:
Even more interesting is the way that the handsets' entire front, capacitive surface (not just the 2.8-inch, 640 x 480 pixel display) can be used for multi-finger input.
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i hope that we will convice you schaps to create a small application for multitouch in order to map some HW buttons which are missing on the Diamond (e.g - up-down can be associated with the "old" Button 2 or 3, etc...)
For me this is the real disadvantage of the Diamond - doesn't have HW keys
I really need some HW keys because now i have applications and games which i cannot use them without HW keys
I wonder if we could find source code for the debugging tools. Use of the multitouch capacitive area would be great for so many applications.
Is it me that has really fat fingers or is the diamond thats like impossible to write on? I often have to rewrite words.. really annoying.. Im not comparing it to iphone but when i tried the iphone you never missed a letter.. and often with the diamond if i want like ? and have to press and hold it releases itself so yet again i have to delete and try again .
Is there a fix for this to get?
It is possible for me to use my fingers. Keep in mind that the iPhone has a 3.5" screen and the HTC only have 2.8"!
A solution could be the tilt the HTC so the keyboard is on the long side - here the keys are a bit larger. (gsen program to do that)
/Michael
I have just got the diamond (XDA Ignito) and have to admit the on screen keyboard will take some getting used to after my XDA Exec physical keyboard but could anyone tell me how to use the QWERTY on screen keyboard in landscape mode as that might improve my accuracy somewhat?
if you use the phone keypad, its a hell of a lot more reponsive than the artemis, the cruise or iphone, best touch sensitivity ive come across
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if you use the phone keypad, its a hell of a lot more reponsive than the artemis, the cruise or iphone, best touch sensitivity ive come across
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Same here, using the SIP utility found on this board to have it set to phone keypad when the stylus is in the device, and full QWERTY when it's out. The Full QWERTY without using the stylus is just too frustrating.
This tool will allow you to rotate the diamond in all applications incl. messages and then the keyboard will follow to landscape mode.
Allows you to rotate the screen between portrait and landscape mode
http://htc-diamond.sosref.com/download/Gsen_1.5.cab
/Michael
BDWN said:
Same here, using the SIP utility found on this board to have it set to phone keypad when the stylus is in the device, and full QWERTY when it's out. The Full QWERTY without using the stylus is just too frustrating.
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What's the utility called? I've been looking for something that can do that!
Here is a link to the SIP discussion:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=414422
/Michael
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Here is a link to the SIP discussion:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=414422
/Michael
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Thanks for the help but that SIP doesnt work for me, it says that it cant start the sip. Is there any other?
mhfalken said:
This tool will allow you to rotate the diamond in all applications incl. messages and then the keyboard will follow to landscape mode.
Allows you to rotate the screen between portrait and landscape mode
http://htc-diamond.sosref.com/download/Gsen_1.5.cab
/Michael
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Follow this thread for more info and the latest version.
I have very small fingers, so I use the regular (small qwerty) keyboard option in portrait, just with my fingers. No need for me for other input options, because I think I tap with a 95% "succes rate".