often when I'm typing an sms/mail message i accidentally press the left hardware key(as it is sunk in the querty keyboard ). this will send the message i didn't finished yet.
is there a way to disable this keys when i have the keyboard slided out?
p-de-geus said:
often when I'm typing an sms/mail message i accidentally press the left hardware key(as it is sunk in the querty keyboard ). this will send the message i didn't finished yet.
is there a way to disable this keys when i have the keyboard slided out?
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good question. I have that problem too.
well... not a real solution, but I've noticed, that if You write on hw keys with screen tilted, then it's less easy to press those two keys, as Your thumbs will have less space above them.
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bronx said:
well... not a real solution, but I've noticed, that if You write on hw keys with screen tilted, then it's less easy to press those two keys, as Your thumbs will have less space above them.
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Got to the same pratical conclusion.
I'd be happy if someone got a workaround about this .
bronx said:
well... not a real solution, but I've noticed, that if You write on hw keys with screen tilted, then it's less easy to press those two keys, as Your thumbs will have less space above them.
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It true that when tilted that they are press less easy, still sometimes i press those keys. i almost always tilt the screen whem typing with hw keys.
Still it would be nice if there is an sollution for this.
AE Button Plus
I use AE Button Plus with no action assigned to a single press of the hardware soft keys (in other words, it ignores a single press of those keys). It affects the buttons in both portrait and landscape modes. If I need to access the single-press soft key function then I just need to press on the screen. I also have the single-press function mapped to a double-press of the hardware soft keys as an alternative.
lol....
And I was thinking I was the only one with that problem...
And got the same soluttion than you guys... tiliting the screens is not so easy to press those buttons
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There are two small buttons (each marked with a small horizontal line) on the keyboard. The left is over the letters R and T. It is assigned to the "Send" button for email. The trouble is that it is very easy to hit by accident when typing R or T, and then the email flies off prematurely! The right one is assigned to the Menu and if you hit it by accident, it is easy to correct (just hit the OK button). Is there a way of remapping these two buttons? Except for this issue, the email with Kaiser is perfect. Does the AT&T Tilt have the same problem?
See my thread here. Those are the same as the softkeys on the font keypad (so remapping one remaps the other). I ended up using AE Button Plus to remap those (and other keys) to other functions, which I like because of the additional functionality that can be assigned to double clicks, triple clicks, etc. But if you just want to remap it to something else, check that thread for some alternatives.
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See my thread here. Those are the same as the softkeys on the font keypad (so remapping one remaps the other). I ended up using AE Button Plus to remap those (and other keys) to other functions, which I like because of the additional functionality that can be assigned to double clicks, triple clicks, etc. But if you just want to remap it to something else, check that thread for some alternatives.
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Err... I don't think this addresses the problem the OP has. I too suffer from this problem (must be big fingers!).
When using Outlook the soft keys change function so remapping the Today Calendar softkey, for example, doesn't help.
Anyone else got a solution to this problem, I'm fed up with sending half-finished e-mails!
I haven't played with AE Button Plus, but if you can assign "No Action" to a button (which some of the add-ons let you do) and do that for the messaging app specifically, then that would be a solution to the problem of large fingers/thumbs. The you could remap one of the FN keys you never use to the context menu or send...
TexasPenguin said:
Err... I don't think this addresses the problem the OP has. I too suffer from this problem (must be big fingers!).
When using Outlook the soft keys change function so remapping the Today Calendar softkey, for example, doesn't help.
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As PerfAlbion pointed out, you can just remap them to nothing. I remapped these keys, not because of the problem with the keyboard, but simply because I never used them since it's just as easy to use the touch screen. But if you want to maintain the softkey functionality on those buttons, use AE button to map a single press to nothing, and a double-click (or even a click-hold) to the softkey function. You would then still be able to use them for their original purpose, but they wouldn't be as easy to accidentally activate.
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As PerfAlbion pointed out, you can just remap them to nothing. I remapped these keys, not because of the problem with the keyboard, but simply because I never used them since it's just as easy to use the touch screen. But if you want to maintain the softkey functionality on those buttons, use AE button to map a single press to nothing, and a double-click (or even a click-hold) to the softkey function. You would then still be able to use them for their original purpose, but they wouldn't be as easy to accidentally activate.
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I'm sorry, I must be missing something obvious here.
Any of the soft button remappers will NOT work on application-specific softkeys - AE ButtonPlus specifically says this in it's FAQ. Remapping the "send" key is application-specific - it only becomes the Send key when you launch Outlook. So how did you manage to re-map this key?
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I'm sorry, I must be missing something obvious here.
Any of the soft button remappers will NOT work on application-specific softkeys...
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The distinction is between remapping the softkey, or remapping the hardkey that correlates to the softkey. What the remappers can't do is change the function of the softkey... if, for example, Outlook is coded to make the left softkey the send key, you can't change that. That's programmed in to Outlook. But what you CAN change is whether or not the hard button that corresponds to the left softkey is recognized as the left softkey. For example, I've remapped the single press of the hard keys that correspond to the L & R softkeys to copy and paste, respectively. If I open Outlook, the soft softkey (the button on the touchscreen) is still going to be send. But my hard button is no longer mapped to be a softkey, it's mapped to be copy.
I used all the programs from the thread that you pointed out, including the cab file that was mentioned. This allowed me to change the left front soft key but does not affect the assignment of the left keyboard soft key as "Reply" when in email mode and with the keyboard slided out. Is there a way to change the left soft key assignment only for the email (eliminate the reply option) or just inactivate the left soft key altogether? I have installed the SoftKey applet form your thread in my Settings.
I sent my reply to one of the earlier messages wihout having read all the answers that came after it....I was out of the office for a couple of hours..my apologies. I will find the AE button plus and give it a try, but is there any registry solution? they usually work the best.
I downloaded and used the AE Button Plus, and it worked! I set it to double press and that did the trick. The program is very good by the way, the only one that allows multiple pressing options, etc.Many thanks!
I have benefited from this thread!
Thanks everybody.
Adequate description on the issue provided, and adequate solutions and then a follow up post.
A really appealing solution would be to isolate the keyboard softkeys from the front ones. I tried the double press method but it turned out to be incredibly annoying and I'm not sure that constant annoyance is outweighed by an accidental softkey hit on the keyboard. What I'd like to do is disable the keyboard softkeys while leaving the front ones completely intact on a single press.
I find it surprising that you even need to use the softkeys, period. I came to the Kaiser from a Smartphone edition phone (no touchscreen), which I had for for over two years. So I was completely accustomed to using the smartkeys. Yet, surprisingly, once I got the Kaiser, I found myself immediately and instinctually accessing their functionality from the touchscreen rather than the hard buttons. Perhaps because the hard buttons aren't directly under the screen like they were on my smartphone, so the tie betwee the label and the button wasn't as obvious as it was on the smartphone.
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See my thread here. Those are the same as the softkeys on the font keypad (so remapping one remaps the other). I ended up using AE Button Plus to remap those (and other keys) to other functions, which I like because of the additional functionality that can be assigned to double clicks, triple clicks, etc. But if you just want to remap it to something else, check that thread for some alternatives.
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Thank you, AE Button Plus worked great. I just deactivated the "Left Softkey" and now I don't have to take care of that damned button anymore.
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I find it surprising that you even need to use the softkeys, period. I came to the Kaiser from a Smartphone edition phone (no touchscreen), which I had for for over two years. So I was completely accustomed to using the smartkeys. Yet, surprisingly, once I got the Kaiser, I found myself immediately and instinctually accessing their functionality from the touchscreen rather than the hard buttons. Perhaps because the hard buttons aren't directly under the screen like they were on my smartphone, so the tie betwee the label and the button wasn't as obvious as it was on the smartphone.
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I've been using touchscreen pocket pc's for a while and no such instinct has kicked in.
so no one has an answer besides installing that AE button plus prog on the phone?
try removing the actual key. i wouldn't try it but it may work.
I'm really glad I found this thread, I keep sending half written and blank sms messages because of the left soft and keep doing weird things because of the right one. It's gonna cost me a fortune in text messages so I'm gonna go try that prog mentioned.
It would be better for a solution more specific to the application but this is certainly better than nothing!
the best solution I can think of is:
- remove the sender name whilst creating email.
if you accidently hit send it will prompt for sender info. when you are ready to send, simply insert the contact details in and all is well.
hope this helps some of you
firstbuddha said:
the best solution I can think of is:
- remove the sender name whilst creating email.
if you accidently hit send it will prompt for sender info. when you are ready to send, simply insert the contact details in and all is well.
hope this helps some of you
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I think we have a WINNER SOLUTION
The keys on my slide out keyboard are inconsistent in how hard you have to press and as a result I sometimes get repeat letters. Anybody know of a setting to adjust the repeat rate or just turn it off altogether? I found a registry entry HKCU\ControlPanel\Keybd\RepeatRate but have not tried adjusting it.
Have you tried the options in Settings>Personal>Buttons>Up/Down Control?
I've used them for the repeat rate and they work for me.
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Dave
Hey that works. I thought those settings were just for the Dpad.
Anyone else notice that the keys don't have the same feel? The "h" key has almost no feedback and the space bar is really hard to press.
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Hey that works. I thought those settings were just for the Dpad.
Anyone else notice that the keys don't have the same feel? The "h" key has almost no feedback and the space bar is really hard to press.
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My F and A button are sometimes a bit hard to handle.
My keys are fine. The Spacebar is wierd though. The left part of it (under the V key) has almost no feedback. The middle side has some kind of double feedback. Only the right part of it (under the B key) is fine.
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My keys are fine. The Spacebar is wierd though. The left part of it (under the V key) has almost no feedback. The middle side has some kind of double feedback. Only the right part of it (under the B key) is fine.
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I spotted virtually the same thing with my space bar too.
Also, the space bar is just a tad too far left for me, nearly catch the '.' key all the time.
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Have you tried the options in Settings>Personal>Buttons>Up/Down Control?
I've used them for the repeat rate and they work for me.
Thanks,
Dave
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THANKS!
This was annoying me for ages! Often the simplest solutions that we overlook!
the next thing thta you have to do is wear in the keys. i remember when i got the deivce was that keys were pretty hard to press. once i wore them in it does really fast
How can I disable these?? The keys above and between "I" and "O", and between "R" and "T"? I hate them. I type incredibly fast and happen to blunder on them at least once per message, email, etc...
I've tried to change my typing style, but that isn't 100% effective and only slows me down.
I would like nothing to happen when I push them. I also do not use the "soft" buttons above the IE and Mail buttons. I don't have issues with accidentally hitting them, though. But if they get disabled with the ones in the full keyboard, it won't bother me (not sure if they're tied together).
I only want the actual onscreen soft buttons to work. Can anyone help?
By the way, I went into Settings > Personal > Buttons, but only 6 are shown (not counting "push and hold").
There are a total of 13 buttons on this thing if you include the push button on the wheel, and don't count the keyboard mappings. 11 buttons if you count the front and inside soft buttons as only 2....
I am currently searching for a solution to the same problem for the same issue. I cannot even count how many times I have accidentally hit the send button when all I wanted was the letter.
I am not that an incredibly fast typist, though.
I use AE Button Plus and this allows you to remap all of the keys to other things as well as map one, two and three presses along with long press.
You could use this to remap one press of the softkey to nothing and two presses to activate the softkey. This would mean that you would have to press them twice to make them work, but would stop teh accidental presses.
dryden said:
I use AE Button Plus and this allows you to remap all of the keys to other things as well as map one, two and three presses along with long press.
You could use this to remap one press of the softkey to nothing and two presses to activate the softkey. This would mean that you would have to press them twice to make them work, but would stop teh accidental presses.
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Would that have the same affect on the "onscreen" soft buttons (touch screen).
I've just had a quick play and it appears to only affect the hardware buttons, which, I think, is what was originally wanted.
It's a good program, I use it a lot and it's FREE!
Is there nothing someone maybe found to disable these in the registry. I also hate these buttons too.
Sometimes it is hard to press/touch accurately the small X or Ok button in the upper right corner. Is it possible to assign a HW button to it?
would be good to have the back HW button work as the x button!
WiZARD7 said:
Sometimes it is hard to press/touch accurately the small X or Ok button in the upper right corner. Is it possible to assign a HW button to it?
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The button with the arrow left on your diamond actually does exactly what you want.
The only program that comes close to assigning any Diamond hardware key to anything is ae buttons plus, so try that.
aydc said:
The only program that comes close to assigning any Diamond hardware key to anything is ae buttons plus, so try that.
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Yup. I used to use AE Button Plus when I first got my Diamond and had the (backarrow) key mapped to the Close Application function (as in terminate not minimise). Used to work well for me but then I stopped- you don't really need more than the original function of backarrow (minimise), what with all the performance enhancements the custom ROMs bring about.
yeah...that's what the back button does...the one with the left pointing arrow! it's an OK-cum-Back button...
it works for minimising/closing programs too
Hello XDA'ers,
I am wondering what the reason behind why the buttons (camera, power, green, red, etc.) in Android on HTC Vogue map to the various tasks they do? For example, the camera button is back, but why not the red button? Is this something hard set in Android and cannot be changed or did someone specifically set it up this way for a reason?
Secondly I am wondering if I create a new "keylayout file" (source.android.com/porting/keymaps_keyboard_input.html) or modify the default one in /system/usr/keylayout/qwerty.kl will I be able to change the mapping of these buttons?
Compared to the Win Mobile mapping, they button layout can take some getting used to,
but once you get used to it, it's actually a very cool layout, especially if you are right handed.
You can hold the phone in your left hand, and use your thumb to access the settings 'top button',
Use your ring-finger to always back-out or end an app
Green button for phone / initiating calls
Red button to end a call, sleep mode, or power off
I wish the d-pad had more use, but I'm always using the stylus, so barely use it.
Would love for the d-pad center key to maybe be the main power-off button.
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... It's actually a very cool layout.
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I wish the d-pad had more use, but I'm always using the stylus, so barely use it.
Would love for the d-pad center key to maybe be the main power-off button.
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I completely agree the current layout is a very cool layout indeed, but as I imagine most people on here like to tinker it may be interesting to know how to customize the button bindings.
I am not sure if its just a matter of changing the button layout file.
I looked at that qwerty.kl file in the android.tgz
It looks like its just a mapping file, and if you change the mapping, you change
buttons,
but doesn't that mean you're just re-mapping the button itself?
Not re-mapping its functionality?
I.e., if you remapped the camera button to the d-pad center, for example, then
the d-pad center would do all functions the camera button used to do,
and the camera button would do any functions the d-pad center would?
Seems like you'd actually have to change more code than just the .kl file?
i wrote this application for polaris, and with simple changes you can add the vogue setup...