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Dead battery or dead phone?

I did some quick searches but I did not find anything to this issue directly. Anyways, I do not know if this where to post my problem or not. But the other day my TyTn stopped taking a charge. The phone is completly dead. Right now I'm on vacation in a remote location with out access to any local AT&T to get a battery. But the problem is that the battery is not taking a charge. The red charge light is not on or anything. I left the phone on the charger for two days and nights with no results. I ordered a battery but will not have it untill I get home in another week. I have Dutty's 6.1 5.2.19199 UC Compliant ROM on the phone and I've been using it for about 10 days now. Everything was working fine. The phone was getting warm during GPS useage and when charging. Right now I hope that its just the battery. But in case its not, I need to know what my options are. Is the phone dead? What other measures are there to bring it back to life?
I tried charging the phone using the USB from the computer and from the charger direct off the house current with no luck. I would remove the battery and soft reset and for awhile I would get a boot up but it would stop right as it was comming up to the home screen.
Thanks in advance.

darkmon said:
I would remove the battery and soft reset and for awhile I would get a boot up but it would stop right as it was comming up to the home screen.
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That gives a tad of hope. What happens if you remove the battery, put it back in, and then connect the charger, without turning the phone on. If it IS possible to turn the phone on, it should start charging at this point. If the battery was under the safe discharge threshold and that prevented it from charging the phone most likely wouldn't agree to turn on at all.
If you manage to get the charging light that way, leave it on charge for an hour before turning it on again.
If not, wait till you have the new battery. If it works all is fine, if not your charge circuit is probably dead and you'll most likely have to send the phone for repair.

"No Light of Death Syndrom"
Thanks for your reply. So far what I've done is;
1. I removed the batery and left it out for a few hours and let everything sit. A few minutes ago I reinstalled the battery and no change. There is still no light on the phone.
2. I tried touching the battery contacts repeatedly with the battery as per a suggestion from another post on this subject, but it was the "Red Light of Death syndrom". I have the "No Light of Death Syndrom"
After trying to use the reset button and holding the power button and removing the battery, I still have nothing.
Its just frustrating because I do not have a second battery or access to one till I get home in another week! I was just wondering if I could trouble shoot this somewhat untill I get home to know what I'm really up against.
Anyone have good news for my situation?!

The same thing happened to me yesterday with my ATT tilt. Luckily I have a desktop holder with a spare battery charger that works fine. But once the battery is in the device, it will not charge. Have ordered a new batttery but am not sure that it will solve the issue. It may be a software problem. Will keep trying to workaround and keep you updated.

pudonggaijin said:
It may be a software problem.
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Hardware, rather... There's not much if any software coming into play to charge the battery, especially when the phone is off. If it still doesn't work with another battery (I'm pretty sure it won't as your battery charges on the desktop charger), just send the phone for repair.

I just had the same thing happen to mine. I was useing skype and all of a sudden it just stoped charging. The usb port does not work(charge or sync.) I have tried everything(hard/soft resets, battery removal and play...) to no avail.
Have any of you found a solution????

Figured it out. My usb port went out completely. Have to replace it.

Reboots after I remove the batter

What the heck is going on?
I'm pretty sure this has nothing to do with the ROM, because it did this with the factory ROM, Manila 2d and now WM6.5.
I turned the phone off, unplugged it, removed the battery. I put the battery back in, replace the cover and press the power button. Nothing happens. I plug the phone back in to the wall charger and put power, it turns on....for about 3 seconds then reboots and it would seem that it will do this for as long as I let it go. If I unplug the phone while this is going on, it will die.
The last time this happened, it took it about a day and a half to sort itself out. It almost seems like its a battery issue.
Any thoughts or ideas?

UPDATE!
I took the sim card out of the phone for a few seconds and the phone seems to be working now.... But its been up and running for about 20 minute now with no sings of acting up.

zz_3.14_zz said:
UPDATE!
I took the sim card out of the phone for a few seconds and the phone seems to be working now.... But its been up and running for about 20 minute now with no sings of acting up.
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mine started doing that today. went to use the camera and it reset then when it came back on it said battery was drained(this happened around 1pm and i always get a full day out of battery) and reset. have it on a charge right now but will not turn on. took out battery and put it back in with no luck. i will try to fully charge battery and take out sim. if all else fails i will try to hard reset. thanks

kaiser won't turn on
LuXx said:
mine started doing that today. went to use the camera and it reset then when it came back on it said battery was drained(this happened around 1pm and i always get a full day out of battery) and reset. have it on a charge right now but will not turn on. took out battery and put it back in with no luck. i will try to fully charge battery and take out sim. if all else fails i will try to hard reset. thanks
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tried to charge the pda all night the light stayed orange and never turned green indicating full charge. tried hard reset and when it goes in to prepare rom it shuts off like dead battery. when i plug in the pda to charge battery and then turn on the phone it freezes on splash screen. if i turn on phone then plug in to charge it acts like i havn't pluged in charger. is it the pda or battery?

I am not 100% sure on this, but to me it sounds like the battery.. and that is a MUICH cheaper option to test out... unfortunatly you ahveto wait for shippng typicalyl unless you have a friend who has the same phone.. I got 2 backups and a stand alone charger now... The other option could be your USB port... I have not heard this specific problem with them.... but I am a PC tech and have seen very simmilar problems with laptops... Usually the first think to for is the power port... Just like out phone, if the device is not on a flat surface and such when it is plugging it, it tweaks the port and it eventualyl breaks... on laptops it is not uncommon that when plugged in, the LEF wil light up saying it is getting power to charge, but it enver charges the battery, and even sometimes can;t power up the full system.. .It sort of sounds like this is what you phone is doing as well.. .If that is the problem the stand alone charger would work (my son broke off his usb all together and now syncs via bluetooth and jsut changes batteries.. he has 3 himself as well) If you search online, you can usualyl find a kti with a battery or 2 and a charger/dockign station for under $20US total. Good luck!
LuXx said:
tried to charge the pda all night the light stayed orange and never turned green indicating full charge. tried hard reset and when it goes in to prepare rom it shuts off like dead battery. when i plug in the pda to charge battery and then turn on the phone it freezes on splash screen. if i turn on phone then plug in to charge it acts like i havn't pluged in charger. is it the pda or battery?
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Teej53214 said:
I am not 100% sure on this, but to me it sounds like the battery.. and that is a MUICH cheaper option to test out... unfortunatly you ahveto wait for shippng typicalyl unless you have a friend who has the same phone.. I got 2 backups and a stand alone charger now... The other option could be your USB port... I have not heard this specific problem with them.... but I am a PC tech and have seen very simmilar problems with laptops... Usually the first think to for is the power port... Just like out phone, if the device is not on a flat surface and such when it is plugging it, it tweaks the port and it eventualyl breaks... on laptops it is not uncommon that when plugged in, the LEF wil light up saying it is getting power to charge, but it enver charges the battery, and even sometimes can;t power up the full system.. .It sort of sounds like this is what you phone is doing as well.. .If that is the problem the stand alone charger would work (my son broke off his usb all together and now syncs via bluetooth and jsut changes batteries.. he has 3 himself as well) If you search online, you can usualyl find a kti with a battery or 2 and a charger/dockign station for under $20US total. Good luck!
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Thank you for your reply! I have just ordered a new battery and will post my findings when it comes. Thanks again.

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LuXx said:
Thank you for your reply! I have just ordered a new battery and will post my findings when it comes. Thanks again.
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no luck with the new battery. still doing the same thing. please someone help me! Thanks

LuXx said:
no luck with the new battery. still doing the same thing. please someone help me! Thanks
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tried bootloader and installed official att rom and never shut off. when it was finished with install same issues appeared. help

For anyone facing this issue I would not recommend wasting money on a new battery as this issue has been around with few users since the Kaiser "Tilt" first came out and I've never seen ANY reports that a new battery fixes this. People have bought new batteries, fully charged their battery from a docking station, tried their friends fully charged battery all with the same result. I had this power down issue a Looong time ago my first week in with the Kaiser and managed a fix and am using the same battery now. Although it seems the battery is not being fully charged it's important to leave it charging until you'd assume it's fully charged and get into bootloader mode and flash an official htc Tytn 2 rom. It should flash completely, and the fact that it does not die immediately as on normal boot indicates it is not the battery but the rom. It did take me the whole afternoon of Flashing, recharging and repeating before it finally kicked in. Also, from reading older posts, it seems most if not all users like myself fixed this by flashing the older official htc wm 6.0; worth a shot at least.

kaalgoosy said:
Also, from reading older posts, it seems most if not all users like myself fixed this by flashing the older official htc wm 6.0; worth a shot at least.
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Yup, that is what I had to today (I hard reset, actually), with barely enough battery life to do this.
Then the bloody unit came up and was charging - amazing, really!
(Was using the official HTC 6.1 upgraded WindowsMobile OS)

here is my 2 cents....
I owned five Tilts, replaced four of them with warranty issues ... so i have faced this dilemma on at least two of them.
First see if the USB tongue is loose. To do this try to gently tap it with the stylus. If the tongue inside the USB port is loose then you will be facing rebooting and other issues and troubles in the future. The USB tongue gets used and jerked every time you connect your device to your PC or wired headset. If you are still under warranty and the USB connector tongue is loose I recommend returning the phone ( if you still can) and getting a replacement. There is no easy fix for a loose USB connection tongue as i have taken one apart and it is very difficult to repair or replace and very easy to mess it up further.
So, my advice to all Kaiser owners... be careful when plugging and unplugging your phones through the USB. Do it gently as the connectors are very fragile.
For those that have the above issues, I recommend using a separate battery charger tray, avoid plugging the USB as much as you can, and if you must, then administer extra care. The rebooting will stop if you plug the USB cable to the device and move it up and down a hair then holding steady. And most likely you will not get a full charge or even a partial charge. The biggest culprit to this problem is car chargers, and second, is inserting the stylus by mistake (when it is dark and hard to see) in the USB port instead of the Reset hole by accident.

Dead

I let my phone battery die, and now I can't turn it on.
Usually I get a red light which goes when the battery is in if its charging.
Sometimes I get a red light even when the battery is in and its charging.
If I do a soft reset, sometimes I get a flashing red light on the sides but then nothing.
I managed to get it back briefly by doing all manner of hard resets and soft resets, and taking the battery out and putting it back in over and over again for about half an hour...
Then I left it charging for half an hour or so and carelessly allowed the battery to die again because I needed to take it with me somewhere - so the same thing has happened again.
I left it charging overnight but I'm not having any luck with it this morning... any help would be much appreciated.

yeah similar problem here. my phone warned me the battery was low... i ignored the warning and used it until it died completely. then it wouldn't turn on. it was late so i just plugged it into the wall charger that came with the phone. i dont think it charged cause in the morning it was still flat. if anything i think having it connected to the charger while not charging drained the last a few drops of juice out of it. had a number of confusing red lights coming up in different spots at different times.
i read on here some guy managed to charge it by getting 3 AA batteries and connecting them directly to the battery for a couple of minuets. i did this and managed to turn the phone on! hoooray!
it had 1% and died in less than a couple of minuets even though i had it on the charger. tried the 3 AA battery trick again but to no avail. i think my battery is dead.
i'm pretty certain i will need to get a new one. i hope you are able to get yours working without buying a new battery.
im really annoyed the Sony Erricson batteries work out to be close to $100 AU. i would prefer to get a legit one... but does anyone have any experience with unofficial batteries? are they any good?

Sorry you're in the same boat... Ericsson really should have made this phone so that it can run out of battery.
Interesting - tell me more about the 3 AA battery trick!

sounds like the cells in your battery isnt balancing hence its dying...think you'll need to buy another one / or at least try another one to make sure it is and not the phone...

Hmmm... I fiddled and pressed buttons and took out the charger and put it in, and then kept pressing the on button while I was doing something else...
Suddenly it made the click noise, but it's not back yet.
It seems to have crashed on the 'Sony Ericsson' start up screen with the green logo.
I don't know if it's charging or not, so I'm not sure whether to turn it off to try again (at the risk of losing the battery), or leave it to charge as it is before I turn it off and can't start it again....
At least it's progress

There are a couple vof threads with many solutions. Look for them, they are very useful.

Yeah I've found a few - Thanks... just nothing they mentioned has worked yet
I think the problem I have may be a slightly different now anyway...
Now, if I unplug it I can't turn it on, but if it's plugged into my computer cable I can get it (every time - after about 3 minutes) to go to the Sony Ericsson loading screen but no further (as if there is no hard reset file for it to load). I can do that by plugging it in, then doing a soft reset (which produces flashing lights on the side) then holding on until it clicks (usually trying that a few times). When it clicks the lights on the side flash and it looks like it charges for a second before the lights go off and its just hte loading screen. I left it for 5 minutes and it turned off completely. Nothing happens if it's plugged into the wall cable at all.
Have you any idea how I might be able be get something to load after the loading screen?... Or any thoughts as to whether you think it's likely to be charging when its on that screen?
Thanks

Hmm... It seems you have a software problem as well.
Here is what I would do: get another battery (fully charged) and try one of these hard reset methods:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=437607
Something should work...

Sweet - I managed to get the hard reset screen to ask me the question about going back to factory defaults... after that the lights on the side are coming on to show its charging....
I guess there's a chance that when the battery is charged it'll have the juice to get past the loading screen... I hope anyway.

Wow this title gave me a heart attack almost
i thought someone is dead

plz i need help
hello good day plz i neesd to flash my htc p3600 and sony ericcson cybershot i need a software i can use to flash them plz help me any body that has an idea

just ordered a 1800mAh mugen power replacement battery. should be here in about a week my old SE k800i will be getting a bit of a work out in the mean time.
i think this break from unnecessary technology which I'm far too attached to will do me good. I'm far too materialistic.
hope you manage to get your battery going again!

Xperia Wont Turn On

Ok.I seem to be having a problem that is relatively common. My Xperia battery died and wouldnt charge.
Getting the constant red light on power button when charging.
I read other peoples experiences on various forums and tried both hard and soft resets. Tried holding the volume down and power button. Tried taking the battery in and out whilst charging multiple times.
Nothing worked
Phoned vodafone and got them to send a new battery out & the exact same thing happens with that. Nothing
So on reading there isnt enough voltage through the fone to charge i bought a wall charger that the battery sits in on ebay. which has a 4.2v or 8.4v output.
It has went green indicating the battery is now charged. Yet the phone will still not turn on, enter bootmode or hard reset
I can send it back to Voda for repair but i would lose all my photos & numbers. I know its not completely dead as when i plug it into the pc via usb even though it doesnt turn the handset on widows does agknowledge that something has been plugged in
HELP PLEASE !!!!!

if your battery power lvl is too low ur xperia wont start just let it charge for 5-10 min and try again

Hello,
There is someone else here who posted about this problem about two days ago, maybe you could find his thread and see if he solved his problem.
I had some problems with my phone going dead aswell. Now I have a custom ROM and it does not happen anymore...but you will loose all your data with that method aswell (oh and your phone needs to be able to go too bootscreen in order to flash a ROM)
Good luck!

[Q] HTC TYTN II starts but only charges when shut off..HELP

Hi guys..
I have had my Tilt now for about 2months and recently tried downloading a 200Meg file off the web with it. It drained the power even though the charger was plugged in and so I was clever enough to fool around with chargers...Bleh.. Anyway, so what had happened is that after me switching the phone off etc. I tried charging again without downloading and when I plug the charger in, NOTHING happens..the green light flashes like normal, no light changes and no blips or notifications come up or anything. If I switch the phone off and then plug the charger in, the red light appears and stays there (and I presume it charges). So now I can´t find a fix..Seen MANY other threads regarding similar problems but 90% result in getting a replacement from the supplier which is not possible for me since I don't work off contract and neither is the warranty still valid and neither do I live even NEAR a HTC dealer. I've tried soft resets, hard resets, restarting phone with charger and battery in, without battery in etcetc. The battery is fine.
So it seems my last resort would be opening up the phone and looking if by luck I can see or measure something. Any help at all will be greatly appreciated
Brian

I have same problem, My HTC only charge when power off, No active sync... but i could up rom because in bootloader 3.56 only show USB without serieal . Yesterday i uprom ship end restore SPL. Then my HTC Kaiser can't uprom. It only sirieal when conect USB.
I think it cause by software without hardware. So everyone help us...help me too

Yeah, mine doens't get recognised by my computer at all. Which means no backups or syncs somehow I think my friend's broken TYTN II is gonna come in handy...hmm....
And just for more info, I am as I'm speaking, charging my phone (with it being off) and the red light has been on around an hour long.. Gonna see if it goes off or changes.. Will report back once something happens
Brian
Edit: I just switched my phone on (after around 2 hours charging with it being shut down) even though the light was still red, battery is now 100%.. so.. I'm now downloading the next 200meg file and another 39 files to go
Update: Just something weird.. The tilt was charging(in its shut down mode) and then suddenly switched on by itself.............. uhm..yeah.. so once it came on, i looked and everything was still the same.. pulled out the charger, switched off, put charger back in(cause the battery was about 30%) and boom, green light and switches on again bleh.. so now I fiddled with the battery and charger, and got it to charge in its off state again with the red LED.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=372266&highlight=rlod
I thiink, it can "fix in booting safe mode". But I can set it to safe mode
You can try it, follow step in the link, then re tell to me!
every oen, who can help us?!

hey, I took a look there and I tried those things but it didn't work. Apparently there is no "Safe mode" for these phones unless you have a third-party software. So just to confirm, I took a look through the user manual and found nothing, Googled "HTC TyTN II Safe Mode" and found random stuff but not much related besides third-party Apps. So then I just tried randomly fooling around with my TyTN II by holding and pressing random sets of keys while pressing the soft reset button. No luck.
Brian

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=354061
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