Accessing Add/Remove appz without going to settings (WM Settings screen is crashing) - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

How would I go through with accessing to remove MS Voice Command from the kaiser without opening the main settings window. I installed a few applications (i.e., TouchFlo 2, Youtube, HTC Audio Manager, PTTfix and MS Voice Command 1.6) on my friends Kaiser running WM6.1. All of these programs work fine on mine (WM 6.0), but now on his the phone reboots everytime you click on settings int he start menu. The only thing I can guess thats causing it is MS Voice Command since it creates an Icon in the Settings window.
I need to either A) find a way to manually remove the icon maybe...if that could work, or B) manually find a way to uninstall voice command.
I am hoping I can fix it without him having to do a hard reset on the phone losing all his stuff.
Thanks.

jh20001 said:
How would I go through with accessing to remove MS Voice Command from the kaiser without opening the main settings window. I installed a few applications (i.e., TouchFlo 2, Youtube, HTC Audio Manager, PTTfix and MS Voice Command 1.6) on my friends Kaiser running WM6.1. All of these programs work fine on mine (WM 6.0), but now on his the phone reboots everytime you click on settings int he start menu. The only thing I can guess thats causing it is MS Voice Command since it creates an Icon in the Settings window.
I need to either A) find a way to manually remove the icon maybe...if that could work, or B) manually find a way to uninstall voice command.
I am hoping I can fix it without him having to do a hard reset on the phone losing all his stuff.
Thanks.
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You can uninstall software with SKTools. Download a trial version from Handango and try it. If you like it, buy it! My guess is you will probably have to do a hard reset anyway to clean up that mess.

Ill do that. I'll use SKtools on his phone to remove MS Voice Command next week.
Has anyone else had this problem? It would be great for him to have Voice Command. He's been drooling over the feature on mine so long. Now that he finally has a kaiser, he can't use it because it doesn't want to work on his. No fun.

Another easy way would be to use Activesync Add/Remove Programs feature on a connected computer

I don't think he has access to a computer but I will keep that one in mind. We hadn't even had a chance to use the sktools option yet since he got sick so I haven't seen him around in a bit.
I really wish the program would have worked :/ I might try reinstalling it again ontop of itself....could do the trick. Maybe the program corrupted itself the first time some how.

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this happend to me before, it was the version msvc i was had installed i dont remember which version though.

eisean said:
this happend to me before, it was the version msvc i was had installed i dont remember which version though.
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This is, this is 1.6 and there is nothing newer

You could also simply create a shortcut/link that goes directly to the Add/Remove Programs settings screen.
Try putting this code in a .lnk file:
Code:
Settings>System>Remove Programs = 21#ctlpnl cplmain.cp,10
It will allow you to bypass the main Settings screen that crashes.

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Removing some not needed HTC Extras

As always, another newb question. If there is a thread for this already, please let me know.
I need some more space for software. Mainly because I need for these to start on every boot and are today add ins. How can I remove some HTC extras I don´t need? For example:
1. The audio manager which I don´t like at all
2. The voice dial feature which I never used because I´m more into voice Command.
3. The Zip program which I replaced with Resco explorer
4. The old home pluggin which I replaced with Battery Status.
5. The Dialer skin which I replaced with the original WM6, which I consider better.
If I have to do this manually, its fine, I just need to know where to go and what to get rid of.
Thanks Guys.
Not too sure
I'm not too sure if this would work, but if you could find cab files of the programs you want to remove, and install them (stay with me) I would guess it would overwrie the files, and also allow you to remove them from the add/remove programs window under settings. I know for me, that worked when I updated Live Search from 1.0 to 2.0 and then deleted it. Give it a shot, what do you have to lose?
It could
It does sound reasonable. The question would be where to get these cab files. Anybody know where?
Though there is a strong posibility it won´t work. Some of these programs are upgrades. For example, I installed the new x button feature I found here as an upgrade. When I uninstalled the upgrade, it automatically returned to the old version. I tried it because I wanted SPB pocket plus to be my close button software. Tried it too with the Audio Manger installing the upgrade found here and the same happened.
Thanks.
1. to 4 are in ROM, you carn't just delete it.
5. Delete reg keys under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\PhoneCanvas & set HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Phone\Skin\Enabled=0, it should then return to the default windows mobile dialer. This file has a backup of the key just in case you want to restore it.
You can remove 1 - 4 if you cook your own rom, have a search in the forums.

Annoying remnants of uninstalled programs

First of all, I am very very satisfied witj my TyTN II.
Video playback WAS an issue for me (as a AV professional), but I am absolutely satisfied after installing CorePlayer and looking forward to the upgrade to version 1.2 of that program.
Other programs were less to my liking and after evaluation I decided to uninstall them using the uninstall utility of MS Active Sync.
But some of these programs simply refuse to uninstall. So I still have a shortcut to the Feedreader program News Gato in my programs map and I cannot get rid of it.
Even more annoying is the Spite Backup program that came with the TyTN II on CD, which I uninstalled, but still givbes me a warning at startup that the file Sprite.exe cannot be found.
DO ANY OF YOU HAVE A CLUE HOW I SHOULD CLEAN UP?
Thanks!
I know what you mean about annoying programmes which won't disapear when they are uninstalled.
One of them for me is a windows live messenger version which I installed. I couldn't get rid of it by softresetting so I had to do the hard reset.
Moreover, PointUI is anothe programme that when uninstalled, still remains on my programme list. Because of this, I had to also hard reset my device.
The hard reset function is the only solution I know that will rid me of troublesome remnants of programmes...
Try SKtools its a good program and has a few features that clean up your registry and it also has an uninstaller better then the one provided by windows. Don't know if it'll work, but worth a shot.
I had the same problem with Sprite - at their web site I found the following fix, which worked for me:
To uninstall everything from your device and PC please follow these steps;
To remove from your device;
1. Use File Explorer to delete the entire folder on your device;
"\Program Files\Sprite Software" if Sprite Backup was installed on device
or
"\Storage Card\Program Files\Sprite Software" if installed on storage card
2. Use a registry editor (e.g. www.phm.lu) for Windows Mobile device to delete the following key in the registry on your device;
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Sprite Software\Sprite Backup]
3. Please also delete the following link file if it exists:
- My Device\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Sprite Backup(.lnk)
To uninstall from your PC;
Steps for manually removing ALL Sprite Software entries from your PC. Please follow these steps carefully to manually remove all Sprite Backup software;
1. Click Start> Run on your PC and type "Regedit" in the bar
2. Delete the following keys;
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows CE Services\AppMgr\Apps\Sprite Software Sprite Backup]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Sprite Software\Sprite Backup]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\{D8FD4D0D-E171-4FFC-91CE-BA38EEAC5E06}]
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Sprite Software\Sprite Backup]
3. Close the Registry Editor
4. Use Windows Explorer to delete these folders;
C:\Program Files\InstallShield Installation Information\{D8FD4D0D-E171-4FFC-91CE-BA38EEAC5E06}
C:\Program Files\Sprite Software\Sprite Backup
C:\Program Files\Sprite Software\Sprite Explorer
This will uninstall everything related to Sprite Backup.
246810 said:
I know what you mean about annoying programmes which won't disapear when they are uninstalled.
One of them for me is a windows live messenger version which I installed. I couldn't get rid of it by softresetting so I had to do the hard reset.
Moreover, PointUI is anothe programme that when uninstalled, still remains on my programme list. Because of this, I had to also hard reset my device.
The hard reset function is the only solution I know that will rid me of troublesome remnants of programmes...
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I tried that same application ths morning and 2 hours later I was uninstalling it. It looked cool, but my internet was painfully slow, and the gestures were all backwards. To get the menu to slide left, you had to slide your finger right on the screen. The hardware keys didn't work, and then when the application locked up on me that was it. The only way out I found was to hit the end key repeatedly until it finally exited. Then the uninstall instructions didn't work. I think that could be a fine program once it is refined, but right now it was a pain.
-Jay
Jay2TheRescue said:
I tried that same application ths morning and 2 hours later I was uninstalling it. It looked cool, but my internet was painfully slow, and the gestures were all backwards. To get the menu to slide left, you had to slide your finger right on the screen. The hardware keys didn't work, and then when the application locked up on me that was it. The only way out I found was to hit the end key repeatedly until it finally exited. Then the uninstall instructions didn't work. I think that could be a fine program once it is refined, but right now it was a pain.
-Jay
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I know what you mean about the gestures being in reverse. This took a while to get used to.
By the way, I had the previous blue version installed on my Kaiser, not the latest black version. I suppose I could give it anothe go, but I can't be bothered to do another hard reset if I don't like the programme and want it fully removed
But yes, I do agree that it would be a good programme once all the little technicalities are fixed. I still do like the normal windows 6 UI, after installing Dutty's CAB which makes the start menu bigger
246810 said:
I know what you mean about the gestures being in reverse. This took a while to get used to.
By the way, I had the previous blue version installed on my Kaiser, not the latest black version. I suppose I could give it anothe go, but I can't be bothered to do another hard reset if I don't like the programme and want it fully removed
But yes, I do agree that it would be a good programme once all the little technicalities are fixed. I still do like the normal windows 6 UI, after installing Dutty's CAB which makes the start menu bigger
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Dutty's enlarged start menu is fantastic. I can navigate the start menu w/o my stylus. One of the best, easiest, and most useful mods out there!
-Jay
I tried SK Tools...and it did the job!
Thanks for the tip

What can a Diamond do?

I just bought a Touch Diamond -very nice phone with a couple exceptions.
Touchflo 3d is nice but Im finding it doesnt have much depth - it needs more functions. And the loudspeaker is not very good - not loud, not clear.
Anyways, its my first windows mobile phone and had a couple questions about what WM6.1 can do. Im using Vista btw.
1. Email - Im downloading ALL my email and its fairly big. Can I force it to save only to internal storage?
2. Music - How do you get the album photo to come up while playing through Touchflo music - the picture does come up if i just play in windows media player.
3. Is it possible to add/remove multiple contacts from the People Menu ie Favourite contact
4. Most important - connectivity. Is it possible to access the phone wirelessly from PC via router? The phone connects to the router wirelessly fine and I can use the internet. But what I want to be able to do is either access the internal storage or sync up with outlook without using the usb cable.
5. What kind of BASIC phone functions does it have?
Eg. Call timer during call
Stop it going to that call history page after a call - i want it to go straight back to home.
Theres more functions it seems to be missing....
6. How do you make it so it FULLY shuts down a program when u hit the top right close button? I dont want to have to keep re-hitting the top right button to open task manager and full close it that way.
7. Lastly, is there any secret tips that a newbie wouldnt know about eg. codes to get to secret menus etc?
1. I don't think so, but I don't download email, so somebody who does may be able to help.
2. Strange problem, probably to do with the version of ID3 tags each uses. But again I have no idea how to solve it
3. No idea with no device in hand
4. Microsoft, being twats, reoved sync via Wi-Fi with the upgrade to WM2003. So, sorry mate, no way that I know
5. My dialer on my other PPC has call timer I think, but the diamond's may not, a new dialer with it included may solve the problem.
Other stuff missing?
6. Get a proper x button, like WKTask, or Wisbar, or something similar. Its also probably possible to change the settings to make it close by tapping X. I also think that with the HTC program, you can close by tap and hold, or, from today, click where the x should be, and a menu comes up enabling you to close them individually.
7. Secret codes? Not that I know of.
Hope the small things I have known here do help
Rory
Yeah, 6 is definitely something that can be done in the standard Windows Mobile settings (unless they've removed the setting in 6.1, in which case a registry edit might do it).
I guess when the phone has been out for a while, a lot of registry tweaks and utils will show up around here to adress all kinds of small and big issues.
i was gona go for a diamond but look at htc touch pro. everything diamond plus hardware keyboard and memory expansion slot (minus front camera).
Found how to fully close the progam in one go - went to task manager - button - and chose "End Programs by tapping X"
Under this option is "End programs by tapping and holding X" which is the default.
I tried it and it does work but I dont like it. Coz u cant really tell how long to hold it. If u keep holding, the program actually just stays open until u release. And I guess if u release too early it wont fully close.
Anyways - thats not a huge issue - wireless sync is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Has anyone found a way to get around it?
Best you can do with WIFI is put the UNC name of your pc into the browser and bring up the shares.
If you want to sync wirelessly, you'll have to do it via bluetooth. You should be able to get a bluetooth dongle for your pc for about 20 bucks though.
OH YEAH!!!!!!!! Going through Opera to browse my PC directory - You little beauty!!!
Now, how do I set up a name for the diamond so I can see it on my PC. Is there a setting you have to enable? I browse for "PCs" and it doesnt find the diamond - just my other PCs

Microsoft Voice Command

Hi, has anyone managed to install this, and get it to work? It doesn't install properly on my Diamond and I can only see settings for it, nothing under programmes.
I get an error along the lines of "programme not installed correctly" or something like that ... can't stand Voice Commander pre-installed.
Thanks, M.
same happend to me, but just ignore the mesage. it is installed anyway. afaik the icon for voice command always was under settings it never had one in programs.
i just installed it and it works fine, allthough it seems that the recognition is not as good as it was on my tytn. will see if it improves over time...
cheers
chaos42
Interesting. I set the button to be key 1 (same as where voice commander normally resides) and yet when I press it I just get a single tone beep response, not the normal multi-tone initiating voice command one.
Haven't tried it with my bluetooth headset yet as the charge has run out on it!
Also, has anyone figured out how to remove the installed Voice Commander?
Thanks, M.
works for me!
vc1.6 i installed it 5 times and did not work after i assigned my only f))king button it just one beep not like used to 3 beeps so i create a icon in programs dir and then link button to that it works perfect. perfect recognition if anything better and faster than any of my previos pda's
MS VC 1.7 freezes Daimond to hard reset
I Posted in another thread, but it should indeed belong here :
Hope to see a working solution for MSVC soon , an official fix from MS would even do fine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2323586&postcount=109
I flashed to Eslite 1.0, so i might give it another try now
I have MSVC 1.6 OK on my Diamond. It is true, that the installation tells me error when I install, but now it is OK. You can configure MSVC in Settings/Voice Command. Then:
1) you have to create link to voicecmd.exe (for example voicebtn.lnk), copy this link into \windows\star menu\programs
2) in settings/button assignment, you have to reassign long press of phone button to this new link voicebtn.lnk and now is MSVC functional
vphk said:
I have MSVC 1.6 OK on my Diamond. It is true, that the installation tells me error when I install, but now it is OK. You can configure MSVC in Settings/Voice Command. Then:
1) you have to create link to voicecmd.exe (for example voicebtn.lnk), copy this link into \windows\star menu\programs
2) in settings/button assignment, you have to reassign long press of phone button to this new link voicebtn.lnk and now is MSVC functional
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i even did not get so far.
I tried to install 1.6 build 17913 on TLR Rom, though it gave this "unrecoverable error" again.
Rebooting resulted in a brick when tapping "settings" which forced a hard reset again damned
Will stick a while to Cyberon Voice command, though I liked MSVC better.
I have used MSVC_US_PPC 1.6.19209.bengalih.cab from pda4x.
No problem after setting Button1 to MSVC.
@ vphk
How did you make that link? Sorry neub
ceevee369 said:
i even did not get so far.
I tried to install 1.6 build 17913 on TLR Rom, though it gave this "unrecoverable error" again.
Rebooting resulted in a brick when tapping "settings" which forced a hard reset again damned
Will stick a while to Cyberon Voice command, though I liked MSVC better.
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I suppose I am not the only one with this exact problem......I hope someone can solve this...
How to open websites in opera using voice command
I'm running a german version of MSVC v1.60.46220 and it's running very smooth. I read the tutorials and configured it to meet my needs. Now I want to open websites with opera using a simple command like "Start xda-developers". To do this I created a link (.url) in a subfolder of programs. This works with Pocket IE. To open the site in opera I changed the file association for the extension .url to \windows\OperaL.exe "%1%. Now opera starts but the home screen appears instead of the site that is linked. help appreciated
I cant get the talking ringtone to work on my diamond.
I adjusted the settings so it should work without an headset.
Do you have to adjust the ringtone somewhere?
Officer21 said:
@ vphk
How did you make that link? Sorry neub
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to create the link mentionned by rxdoctor in post #4 :
1 - from your PC, go to \program files\voice comand on your pda (via Active Sync connection), create a shortcut here (like you would do for a file on your PC)
2- move this shortcut to \Windows\start menu\Programs on the pda
Then the name of this shortcut appears in the drop down list of programs you can assign to the button.
Now I have MS voice command working fine

Start -> Settings and Diamond crashes, how to fix?

Hi,
I just installed MS Voice Command and ever since, if I go Start then Settings my Diamond crashes (screen freezes, buttons don't respond etc).
Apart from a Hard Reset, is there anything I can do to fix it? I was thinking if I could uninstall MS Voice Command ... but the uninstall method is via Start -> Settings ...
I tried renaming the MS Voice Command directory so that its files are inaccessible but that made no difference.
Any ideas?
Mike
Never mind, fixed. I tried to re-install MS Voice Command and it removed the first installation ... and device is now working okay, phew!
Another possible solution may have been using SKTools to uninstall it.

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