TMC on Diamond? - Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General

Hi,
sorry if this is a silly question , but i don't understand why the diamond doesn't support TMC for navigation? As far as i know TMC is sent through radio signal and the diamond has an radio receiver. So why can't we use TMC?
Thanks for all replies!

Take a minute to think about it...
You need the headset to get the radio working.
Furthermore, TMC needs a special device to decode the signal.
The internal GPS-Receiver is built in the SoC from Qualcomm and doesn't contain the TMC-Device (probably Patent-Issues?).

Related

Using Destinator or any other GPS app with TMC

Does anybody use Destinator or TT with TMC in US? I'm wondering if TMC is even possible on Kaiser.. not sure how the traffic updates work.
DarkDvr said:
Does anybody use Destinator or TT with TMC in US? I'm wondering if TMC is even possible on Kaiser.. not sure how the traffic updates work.
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You would need some form of addon TMC FM receiver similar to the Garmin inline version for its dedicated GPS units.
Only other way of receiving TMC reports is via your data connection (3G,GPRS) as in Gamin XT.
So there's software that allows to emulated a hardware TMC thingy and gets traffic info from the web?
Let me clarify my question... I have iGo 2006 (gps software), and it's trying to get TMC updates from hardware (asking for a COM port). I do have unlimited data.. so I need something that will grab traffic info from the web and give it to iGo.
DarkDvr said:
So there's software that allows to emulated a hardware TMC thingy and gets traffic info from the web?
Let me clarify my question... I have iGo 2006 (gps software), and it's trying to get TMC updates from hardware (asking for a COM port). I do have unlimited data.. so I need something that will grab traffic info from the web and give it to iGo.
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Yeah, Garmin pulls it from the Garmin webserver.
Hmmm, its asking for a COM port? I wonder if iGo either sell an addon receiver or have plans to in the future. Unless this is a generic package designed for Pocket PC's and its a function that is unavailable on Windows Mobile.

TMC under IGO 8 for Htc Diamond ??

Hi everyone,
Does anyone tried to use TMC under Igo 8 ? My diamond says it can't find the TMC hardware. I tried to play FM Radios and it works.
Anyone can help ?
Thanks by advance
Very good question.
I had the same issue myself, yesterday...
HastaSSSS
Diamond doesnt have TMC does it?
someone1234 said:
Diamond doesnt have TMC does it?
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Nope. Unfortunately, it doesn't. Oh, well...
Oh, i thought it had throught the FM Radio receiver
Does anyone know a bluetooth TMC receiver for use with igo 8 and htc diamond ?
rrichie said:
Oh, i thought it had throught the FM Radio receiver
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It has an FM receiver with RDS decoder but not the TMC hardware. I have tried to but the radio on and then starting IGO and searching for the TMC receiver but it doesn't find one. So no possibility for it.
Thanks marco 899.
Does you have any suggestion about a good bluetooth TMC receiver i could use with igo 8 and htc diamond ?
Bah! That seems a bit stupid. If its got a GPS unit and an FM radio they might as well include the TMC bit as well. Or they could have at least used a GPS chipset that includes the TMC stuff.
leaskovski said:
Bah! That seems a bit stupid. If its got a GPS unit and an FM radio they might as well include the TMC bit as well. Or they could have at least used a GPS chipset that includes the TMC stuff.
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It's all about licenses. TMC needs a license from GNS. That's why leadtek stopped producing gps receivers with builtin TMC.
I only put my original head phone on usb port and I found a TMC with diamond via IGO's automatic finder. It's fine but the reception of TMC's chanels doesnt work. I think that it is possible to do a bridge between FM radios ...
marco899 said:
It has an FM receiver with RDS decoder but not the TMC hardware. I have tried to but the radio on and then starting IGO and searching for the TMC receiver but it doesn't find one. So no possibility for it.
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There is no need for TMC Hardware. TMC is done by some special RDS-Messages. Diamond is able to receive RDS 'cause it will show up the name of current station. So it will receive RDS-TMC, too.
You only need a software that will get the tmc messages and decode them to, lets say, opentmc and that's all.
are there some examples for an openTMC software?
If it turns out that waiting for the software TMC support takes too long I have an alternative proposal:
- it would be possible to buy a TMC receiver for a mere ~$100 and
- log the TMC messages in country. All of them.
- start a website
- write a program that periodically downloads the content of the website via 3G
- and feed a COM port that Igo or other navigation programs can read.
As far as I know (please correct me if you know an existing solution) there is no such site online.
How does it sound?
i have read this thread for Diamond and then i have found this other thread for Blackstone http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=511838
it can help us??? it's possible to try this blackstone method on our Diamond...
thanks for answer
dibbutz said:
i have read this thread for Diamond and then i have found this other thread for Blackstone http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=511838
it can help us??? it's possible to try this blackstone method on our Diamond...
thanks for answer
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Thanks dibbutz for bringing this to my attention.
It does work on the Touch Diamond, better than the TMC on the £1,000 Garmin in my Volvo.
There are three things that you ought to be aware of.
1) You need the headphones plugged in to act as a aerial.
2) It only works with a good signal, don’t expect it to work indoors without fiddling with the aerial.
3) The HyperGPS program remains working even when the program is closed. The only way to unload it is to do a soft reset. (Could have battery implications).
Internal TMC on Diamond is possible !!!
Look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=512630
It works !

TMC in Touch Diamond

Hi,
Does anybody knows about TMC in touch Diomond?
It has built-in FM Radio, so it looks that maybe it can receive the TMC messages.
Regards
PiotrWu
No, it can't...

TMC

Did anybody succeeded with TMC on Diamond?
I originally thought that there is no TMC hardware on Diamond, but iGO8 said that it has found TMC hardware - however I was not able to tune the stations.
Tried both auto-scan and manual (the frequency stayed at 0 Mhz FM and did not move).
Tried also with the headpohnes / antenna (i.e. FM radio SW was working before).
Thanks a lot in advance for any positive news.

An USB TMC receiver

I think many people, including me, would like this.
http://www.locosystech.com/product.php?zln=en&id=49
and here is the specifications.
http://www.locosystech.com/download/receiver/TMC2001~3_datasheet_v1.0.pdf
I had a few emails with the support people, here is a relevant excerpt:
"Regarding to navigation software, our TMC Protocol has been supported by
major navigation software providers,
such as : Destinator, Horizon, iGo, Maction, Mapfactor, Sygic. "
All the rest is in the specs.
Problem is, it connects with mini USB. OK, mini to micro converters do exist, but will it still work?
Hmm, doesn't seem so. It has a USB conector, but which isn't carrying USB signals, it has a simple serial port instead. So the PND would have to be specifically made to work with it.
Bluetooth GPS - TMC Receiver:
GNS 5870 GPS RDS TMC Receiver Bluetooth
http://www.gns-gmbh.com/index.php?id=157,具体香港的地址网站上有&L=1
Best regards,
dingolino
p34cdc2 said:
I think many people, including me, would like this.
http://www.locosystech.com/product.php?zln=en&id=49
and here is the specifications.
http://www.locosystech.com/download/receiver/TMC2001~3_datasheet_v1.0.pdf
I had a few emails with the support people, here is a relevant excerpt:
"Regarding to navigation software, our TMC Protocol has been supported by
major navigation software providers,
such as : Destinator, Horizon, iGo, Maction, Mapfactor, Sygic. "
All the rest is in the specs.
Problem is, it connects with mini USB. OK, mini to micro converters do exist, but will it still work?
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dingolino said:
Bluetooth GPS - TMC Receiver:
GNS 5870 GPS RDS TMC Receiver Bluetooth
http://www.gns-gmbh.com/index.php?id=157,具体香港的地址网站上有&L=1
Best regards,
dingolino
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Slightly expensive with only 299 euro
For EUR 299,- it would be realy expensive - I got it for EUR 89,-
Best regards,
dingolino
http://www.amazon.de/GNS-5870-TMC-R...UTF8&coliid=IHAMS4JL0SXJZ&colid=1OPRJANNOTT3Z
wilcovh said:
Slightly expensive with only 299 euro
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That is indeed a better price. so bought one.
Can confirm it is working well with iGo8. receiving TMC without a problem.
The only annoying thing is you need to connect the com2 manually. if you have done that it works.
looking for a solution on this. so far not found.
There is also the Royaltek RTG 2000 Bluetooth GPS/TMC receiver. You can get one for around €90 and it works just fine with iGO.
THE HD2 has TMC build in
if that is the case, good news.
please explain to us how to use it in navi program.
so far no one got it to work without bluetooth receiver.
shine the light..
Bump, I liked to know to get that working !
Confirm that
GNS TrafficBoxPlus FM9BT-C (google it) is working fine with HD2 and Igo8
please explain
Please explain!!
peter7 said:
THE HD2 has TMC build in
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madatter said:
Please explain!!
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Bump Up ! is it true? That would be so nice!
it is just a loose comment made and never explained how to.
when you look in the hypergps thread it is stated that it does not work on the HD2.
* BCM432x Chipset:
HTC Rhodium, HTC Leo, HTC Mega
Supports radio functions if renaming FMSDKWrapper.dll to FMS_API.dll with the above driver. RDS data cannot be received.
We are working on this device. Related thread: FM Transmitter on HD2
Have a look at this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=512630&highlight=hd2+tmc
sutt359 said:
Have a look at this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=512630&highlight=hd2+tmc
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this is the hyperGPS thread i mentioned before and the second post in the link says:
NOT supported devices
HTC Rhodium/Leo cannot receive RDS data by using GFMAPI.
wilcovh said:
* BCM432x Chipset:
HTC Rhodium, HTC Leo, HTC Mega
(skipped)RDS data cannot be received.
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Hmmmm...
When using FM radio, i can see station names, recieved via RDS.
Example: "SKY radio"
pavelbor said:
Hmmmm...
When using FM radio, i can see station names, recieved via RDS.
Example: "SKY radio"
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Yes, that's RDS, not TMC....
woaloo said:
Yes, that's RDS, not TMC....
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If i have understood it right rds and tmc is transferred the same way but the problem is extraction of the tmc data. the piece of software used for that named gfmapi does not work with the BCM432x Chipset build in the HD2
so far nobody managed to write software that can do this for our chipset.
for the time being we are left with the working bleutooth tmc receiver solution.
Another potential USB solution?
After extensive googling I found this:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Evesham-Nav-Cam-7500-Tmc-Kit-12-VOLT-USB-CAR-CHARGER-/370400305941
It is a GNS FM9; I bought one. At first sight the connector seemed to be a standard mini USB (that is easy to convert to micro USB). Well, it IS USB, but the 8-pin type that is widely used in digital camera connectors by Fuji, for example. I opened it up; the first attached image shows how it looks inside. Looks fairly standard USB colour coding, although pin 4 (the black) is also wired.
I have an RJ11 type that I used with my Axim X51 through a windscreen mount. The second and third image show how that one is wired; attached as comparison / reference.
I understand that I would need USB host functions to use the first one with the HD2, which is under development. But could some clever folks confirm that it would be possible to solder a micro USB connector to it and end up with a usable hardware? Of course, subject to driver availability.

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