G1 setup questions. - G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

just got a G1 with me. i dont have a t-mobile sim with me, but i know the first thing the phone goes to is to set up a gmail account. is there anyway round this?
would it work if i got a normal sim and just put credit on it, like say £10, and then the phone will just use up the credit to register with a gmail account? or do you have to absoloutely have some sort of special plan? i put in my blyk sim with an x-sim IV and it accepted the sim, thinking it was a t-mobile sim. but i dont have any credit on the sim so the connection times out, was thinking of putting some credit on the sim to see if it will connect?
cant you do the setup over wifi? but i cant get into any menus to set it up?
if you absoloutely have to get a bloody t-mobile web'n'walk plan then that, in my opinion, is just as bad as the whol apple ipone thing, what a rip, i'll be selling the phone then.
but if anyone know of how to get around this or if it'll work off credit, then please let me know.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=452316

i love you.

well i type in reboot and nothing happens oh well i guess its time to sell it, but do you know if it would be possible to activate over normal credit on your sim or does it have to have a special t-mobile data plan?

Zub7 said:
well i type in reboot and nothing happens oh well i guess its time to sell it, but do you know if it would be possible to activate over normal credit on your sim or does it have to have a special t-mobile data plan?
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Search is your friend. The phone does not require TMo.
--M

well i used search and got nowhere. i found one thread about not needing a t-mob data plan but it requires access to the phones APN settings which i dont have

APN settings are available by pressing the menu button when in the setup. Can't remember if is right at the "Touch the android" or not. Just search the forum to get the needed APN settings for your carrier.

There are APN setting of different carriers in this thread

The way I did it without a data plan was to get someone that has a data plan and insert their Tmobile sim card in your G1. After you are able to log in, go into setting->data synch, and uncheck everything. Now you are able to use your Sim card and access the phone without the gmail authentication.

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If i unlock my phone, will T-MO charge me for it?

my dads house gets ZERO SERVICE but i am 99 percent sure that AT&T gets fair coverage there. i have tried to connect to AT&T's service but my sim card doesnt support it. i did some reasearch and have found that in order to register on AT&T's network, i need an unlocked sim card. only problem is, are there any charges that follow with doing that? and will T-MO just unlock it because i ask them too?
Just call them and tell them you are going out of the country and need an unlock code.
Here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=474144
ok the reason i wanna unlock it is to
connect to at and t's service at my dads house because he doesnt get any service there. so if i unlock it, will i be able to connect to at and t's service for free?
yes i read the thread and searched so dont get mad if this is a normal/ noobish question.
oshizzle1991 said:
connect to at and t's service at my dads house because he doesnt get any service there. so if i unlock it, will i be able to connect to at and t's service for free?
yes i read the thread and searched so dont get mad if this is a normal/ noobish question.
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If you currently have T-Mobile then you need an AT&T Sim card to place in your G1. When you boot it will come up saying Unregistered Sim and will ask for a SIM Unlock code. After you enter the code you will be able to use the AT&T Sim card in your G1. You will NOT have data unless you change the APN's. Contact AT&T for that information or search for AT&T APN information.
If you ask T-Mobile for the SIM unlock code they are likely going to ask you to clearify. There is a sim lock (which protects your text messages and contacts) and it is programmed in your sim card. Then there is the NETWORK lock (or subsidy code) which will allow your phone to be used on almost any network. You need the SUBSIDY lock. Not the sim unlock.
To qualify for the SUBSIDY code for T-Mobile contact them by calling the toll free number. Do not call them from the phone because they will need the IMEI.
1) You need to be on a non-prepaid plan for at least 90 days of active and uninterrupted service. If yes, go to 2.
2) Call T-Mobile Customer Care from landline and give them the IMEI of the G1.
3) If you give them a valid reason for having it unlocked then they will submit a request and you should get your subsidy unlock code in about 72 hours via e-mail. BTW... telling them you want it unlocked so that you can use a competitors service is probably not the best request.
4) Once you've aqcuired the subsidy code, boot up your G1 with the AT&T SIM inside and enter the code provided in your e-mail from T-Mobile.
5) Contact AT&T for the APN information or find it here on XDA (search).
6) Enter the APN information by:
On home screen press MENU
Go to SETTINGS
Go to WIRELESS CONTROLS
Go to MOBILE NETWORKS
Go to ACCESS POINT NAMES
Press MENU
Select NEW APN
Fill in the blanks
You will never have to enter the subsidy code for your G1 again (even after a wipe or flashing to another ROM.)
NOTE: If you can't get the code from T-Mobile there are services on the web that will unlock for a fee. These usually range about $20 or so. There is no cost from getting it from T-Mobile should you qualify. Good luck.
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ok thank you all so much, but some final questions,
ok so i can just call at and t and tell them that i would be interested in getting my phone unlocked because at my dads house t mobile doesnt get service, but they do, and i want to connect to their service?
also should i just visit the closest at and t store to do this?
if i have an at and t sim in will my billing and account info stay they same? like my plan wont change and t mobile would still be my mobile network even thoughi have an at and t sim card?
and i know i am planning on telling them that i am going overseas for 2 weeks for a vacation. that seems to work with these dudes.
P.S.!
will AT&T want me to sign a contract with them if i ask for one of their sim cards??? i just thought of that. i dont want a contract with them! lol. will they (AT&T) charge me for when i use their sim card and network?
oshizzle1991 said:
will AT&T want me to sign a contract with them if i ask for one of their sim cards??? i just thought of that. i dont want a contract with them! lol. will they (AT&T) charge me for when i use their sim card and network?
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Is this a serious question? If you were AT&T would you let someone use your network for free?
You might be able to use a pay-as-you-go AT&T SIM card in an unlocked G1. Not 100% sure about it so don't quote me on that.
fml i wasnt thinking
i totally overlooked that fact. dang
unlocking the phone will allow you to use pre paid sims with att as well
and you might be able to get a month by month contract with them (not sure of their available plans) either way google should show you the way
oshizzle1991 said:
i totally overlooked that fact. dang
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att, boost, tmo, net10 prepay all use sim. I dont think boost will work tho.
Original question(s) seem to be solved.
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gophone sim does not prompt sim unlock code

I have a weird issue, and was hoping that maybe someone could shed some light on what I am seeing.
I just got a used G1 on ebay, which I want to unlock. When I put an ATT GoPhone sim in and boot the phone, I am not prompted for a sim unlock code. It is not unlocked, I know the this as I do not connect to the ATT network at all and cannot modify any of the APN settings on the phone. I know that I need the prompt for sim unlock to actually unlock the phone. Fortunately, I just found an old international sim laying around and that one seems to trip the prompt for the sim unlock. My questions - why does the GoPhone sim not cause the phone to prompt me for an unlock code?
Thanks for your time.
Hmmm that is a good one. I used a normal att sim and it asked for the code, is it a older sim? Maybe one from the cingular days? To weird man.
the gophone sim is a new sim, just purchased and activated. I know the sim is okay, because I can use fine in another phone.
I have an unlock code on order. Hopefully, using my other sim to trigger the code request, I will be able to do the unlock. Hopefully, then, the gophone sim will work fine. I hope to post positive results back later.
thanks
Yea you can unlock it with any sim and switch to another and it will work. I know a few people on here use att gophone sims so you should be fine.
so I was able to sim-unlock the phone using a different sim.
I still have a real problem though - when I put the gophone sim in, I still find myself unable to connect. I even go to settings>wireless controls>Mobile Networks>Network operators and try to manually select at&t. When I do, it says "registering on at&t" for a while and then says "Your SIM card does not allow a connection to this network". Again, I know this sim works - I have been using it in another phone.
What do you think I am doing wrong?
Thanks
It sounds like something is ****ed up with the sim, even though it works for the other phone. Do you have any friends with att sims? Something really sounds off here and if it isn't sim related then I don't know what it could be.
will try to find someone with an AT&T sim, but I don't know what the deal is. I even tried an international sim (that should roam on t-mobile here), but I could not get that to connect. I have tried putting in a tmboile sim and that seems to be the only thing I can to talk to a network
As a side note, no APNs show under settings>wireless controls>Mobile Networks>Network>Access point names when I put non-tmobile sims in. When I add one, it still does not show up on the list.
arg
no more advise? any where else I can ask for help?
Thanks,
Ryan
uiucryan said:
no more advise? any where else I can ask for help?
Thanks,
Ryan
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what rom are you using?
cyanogenmod 4.0.4, but the initial problem was being seen with multiple roms
thats odd because i thought he had the large apn file in his rom
david1171 said:
thats odd because i thought he had the large apn file in his rom
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from what i read that is true - but I do not see them
to note I just loaded "The HTC ADP 1.5 CRC1 ROM" from
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=538456 and still I cannot seem to connect to at&t
uiucryan said:
from what i read that is true - but I do not see them
to note I just loaded "The HTC ADP 1.5 CRC1 ROM" from
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=538456 and still I cannot seem to connect to at&t
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i'm sorry i do not know more about the apn side of things i have a tmobile contract so i don't have to worry about that. sorry
I will open a new thread as the thread title no longer accurately reflects the issue.
Thanks,
Ryan
There is a thread for ALL APN's in one of these dream forums. try that one, make sure you save the APN when you enter it to, dont just hit home or whatever.
crpercodani said:
There is a thread for ALL APN's in one of these dream forums. try that one, make sure you save the APN when you enter it to, dont just hit home or whatever.
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I do click save and it does not show up on list.
FIXED!!!!
To note, I finally got connected to the At&t network.
Please see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4469651 to see how I finally got connected.
Thanks to those who helped

Questions about G1 ... ATT... Blocked Data... Debacle!

So my friend is giving me her old G1 since she got a new phone and it is basically sitting in her glove compartment. She has T-Mobile I have AT&T.
I am on a family plan with no data plan and my parents went so far as to put a data block on all the phones. I read a few sites and I heard from one that once the phone is unlocked it is a one time deal, if this is true this may be good for me.
A) Since my friends phone is obviously unlocked since it was hers and she used it, if I put my ATT sim card in (she's not gonna factory reset), will it work? What would I have to do
Since I dont have a data plan and my parents blocked all data (internet, not messaging) but I have Wifi, can i tell my friend before she mails me her G1 to enable wifi?
B) Since I don't plan on getting wifi anytime soon, this would be good no? Ofcourse if question A is correct that I wouldn't have to unlock it and activate it.
Ba) If question A is fail, could i still activate the phone via my wifi on the gmail account set up?
So those are all the questions I have, I would like to know what I should do when i get the phone in anycase because I would really like to use it, and i plan to use the wifi feature instead of paying for a data plan since my town has a lot of free wifi hotspots!
Let me know!!!
- Joey
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If the phone is up to date, it should allow you to skip the account sync process (which is one reason data is required). That way it should allow you to get into the phone and activate wifi yourself.
Of course it wouldn't hurt to have you friend do it for you. Convenience and all.
you meant to say "Since I don't plan on getting data anytime soon..." right?
If she doesn't factory reset, you can add multiple accounts on a single G1 through settings. So give that a go too. The main thing is, that before donut, it was mandatory to sync over data service to activate your phone on a fresh G1. So you should be ok.
Hey Innovated,
Shouldn't have any issues doing that. If you pop in the SIM card, the phone will first say Emergency Calls Only. You have to go into Settings, Wireless Controls, Mobile Networks, then Network Operators and select AT&T.
If it pops up with an unlock code screen, then you need to purchase an unlock code. eBay is usually good, around $5.
After that, everything will work. As you don't have a data plan, and have a data block in place, there's no need to enter new APN details.
As for wifi, you can turn it on or off as you want. To turn on and off, click Settings, Wireless Controls, Enable WiFi.
Hope this helps!
-XBrav
Wow thank you so much for both of your fast replies! This will help so much and hopefully it is as easy as you say! I can't wait to have this cool phone!
My friend wants to know if it can still work if she can factory reset it, and add my gmail account to activate it before mailing me the phone... Would that still be the same as what she 'WAS' going to do in my first description?
As far as I know that can work. What the sync does is add your contacts, and allow the phone to sync with your google account. With 1.6 and higher, android allows you to skip the step, but it should be possible if she does it for you.
Worst comes to worse, you factory reset and hit "skip" . So yup. hope that helps.
even if im ATT and she's Tmobile?

Used G1 without web plan

If I buy a used G1 on ebay, can my neighbor just put her sim card in it without any web plan? She has a regular voice and text plan on T-Mobile with a cracker jack nokia flip phone and it's a hassle for her to send and receive texts. I figured she can get a phone with a keyboard and make her life easier.
Does she have to turn anything off so she doesn't get charged for web service?
without a data plan its gonna be hard to get past the activiation screen.
all she would need to do is
get a sim with someone who has data,
go through the setup creating her own gmail account
then when she;s at the home screen power off and swap sims again.
she wont have internet but the basics will work!
I have an iPhone on T-Mobile with data. So I can use my sim and put it in her G1 and where do I find the next steps in activating everything?
no sim = unpassable NO SIM screen.
sim without data = activation/learn how to use screen, cant continue after wanting to create gmail account
sim with data = get to step above but it will create the account and allow you through to the home screen.
so yes, as long as the sim has data, she should be ale to activate.
just remember to tell her that the phone is much more fun with data ;D
Thanks. Once I get her to see how much fun and easier to use a smart phone is I'm sure she'll eventually get a data plan.
actually I think the only way to get pass it is with a android data plan, Im not sure of the other data plans t-mobile has.
But I have had my G1 for a year w/o data.I got 5MB of free data when I bought it so you can try it even though your getting it used.I still had this problem when I was rooting it though because I had to log-in without the data.I did by going through the adb shell or something its kind of difficult.
Maybe someone else can give you more information
Ok I got it and I installed the sim card from my iPhone. I went through the activation process and I created a generic gmail account and have been using the G1 for the last 30 minutes. Have it also working through the wifi at home too.
Now I have to install her sim to see what happens.
Download APN droid so that her phone doesn't connect to data services. They will charge her per MB if she doesn't.
I got pretty good at modifying the iPhone and next week I have to learn the EVO. I hope what I learn with this G1 I can use with the EVO later!
I went into MARKET on the G1 and searched APN and all I got was APN Italy and APN Movilphone. Where do I get APN DROID and how do I install it?
The app's name is "APNdroid" by martin adamek. It's in the market.
I must be doing something wrong. I'm going into the market and searching for APNdroid and it keeps telling me
There are no matches in Android Market for the search : APNdroid
Do I have to be rooted or jailbroken or is it another Market not the one on the stock G1 ? Do I have to do it while connected on the cellphone or can I do it over wifi?
I'm not an idiot, I mean how hard is it to do a search, but this is making me nuts!!
OK Now I know what happened. I've been playing with the G1 since yesterday but for some reason today it decided to update its version. It asked if I wanted to update it and I said yes. Apparently the previous owner had never updated it. I now have a way prettier and more modern looking Market and it found the app quickly when I searched for it.
I installed the app and it's working great. I knew I couldn't be that dumb!
Thanks a lot for your patience.

[Q] Does HTC G1 work without a Data Plan?

basically i want to get a tmobile prepaid payasyougo plan with 1000 minutes for $100. i was looking for gsm phones and found the G1. i would like to know if i buy a new G1 on ebay for like $100 will i be able to just put the tmobile sim card inside and activate the phone? or do i need to get a tmobile sim card with a data plan on it? basically i want to know if i can use the G1 for just voice calls on a prepaid sim card. i also would like to know if i can use the wifi to connect to my router, or is that blocked unless i have a data plan? are any features in the G1 disabled if i put in a sim card without a data plan? i plan on using the G1 for only voice calls and browsing the web on my home wifi. can this be done on this phone? thanks for your help in advance
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Google_Login_via_a_WiFi_Connection
There ya go
Btw, I wouldn't pay 100 for a G1. I got mine for 15 bucks used.
if your g1 isnt rooted than no, the stock g1 wont let you sign in without a plan unless you borrow someone's sim card set it up and then change out sims, what you want to do is get one, root it (probably need someones card to do this) flash a rom (many are far better then stock) and when it comes time to sign in it wont madder what tmobile sim car you have in there. and if you unlock the phone you can put in just about any sim card (rooting will not unlock the phone) good luck! oh by the way if you cant borrow a card, try to buy one that is allready rooted for you, if you check ebay you'll be sure to find one, hell i sell some on ebay that are ready to go. oh and yes you can use wifi.
I got a G1 from stock no sim to cm6 working fully...all without sim
The thing I posted above does NOT need root...
You may have to downgrade, but that doesn't need root...
Try the following...on the emergency dialer type <enter>reboot<enter>
If it reboots congrats, the wifi thing will work
If not, you need to downgrade....but don't worry its not too hard
I can help you through it most likely
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The easiest way is to type in on google "how to bypass google login on g1 the unlockr" tells you everything step by step

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