Camera window fogging up? Polish it. - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

I don't often use the camera in my Tilt, that is to say I never use it on purpose. If I need a camera on the spot, I'll use it. It's better than nothing sometimes.
I hadn't used it in a while and this weekend I needed to grab a photo of something and I noticed that the window on the battery cover was very strange looking, almost a fractal pattern of scratches or etches on it. Very light, but making it very foggy. Unfortunately I didn't notice until later, and my shots were horrible. After I noticed the fogginess, I took a few test shots with and without the cover, and without the cover the shots looked as 'good' as they ever do.
So I got out my Novus plastic polish that I use to polish up light scratches out of gadgets (similar to Applesauce and other products) and polished the window for a few minutes and all of the weird foggy layer went away. It took a few times, so it wasn't simply dirty, etc. Now I have a 'ring' of this weird looking fogginess around the edges of the lens but that doesn't affect the camera. So I took a few more test shots and the different between with the battery cover and without are back to negligible.
Just thought I'd mention it for folks who are taking off the battery cover to take photos or thinking about removing the 'lens' in the battery cover. If you have something to polish plastic and your lens looks foggy, give this a try.
I might try to take a picture of it sometime, but not sure I'll be able to really capture it well.

I used brasso brass polish for the same result, works well with a bit of elbow grease. As for the "halo" left around the edges I took a wooden toothpick and covered the end with a bit of paper towel and got rid of the "halo" by polishing in circles against the edge to remove that halo. Now my cover is like new!!!

mk69 said:
I used brasso brass polish for the same result, works well with a bit of elbow grease. As for the "halo" left around the edges I took a wooden toothpick and covered the end with a bit of paper towel and got rid of the "halo" by polishing in circles against the edge to remove that halo. Now my cover is like new!!!
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Was yours similar to how I described? Not just foggy, but kind of a weird pattern on the plastic?

khaytsus said:
Was yours similar to how I described? Not just foggy, but kind of a weird pattern on the plastic?
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yes, it looks like a "rainbow" on the surface almost like if you were to blow a bubble and catch it and look at it you can see a rainbow of colors in the bubble.
After I polished it it was clear, the before and after effects were enough for me to see.
must have been somthing on our fingers that got on the cover or something like that.

mk69 said:
yes, it looks like a "rainbow" on the surface almost like if you were to blow a bubble and catch it and look at it you can see a rainbow of colors in the bubble.
After I polished it it was clear, the before and after effects were enough for me to see.
must have been somthing on our fingers that got on the cover or something like that.
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I'm beginning to think you're right, it was a suspicion of mine to start with as the only thing that could have really made a lot of contact with it is my fingers. And sure enough after a week or so, the window is starting to get funny looking again. I touch it all the time by accident, it's just in a perfect spot to get fingers on it.

khaytsus said:
I'm beginning to think you're right, it was a suspicion of mine to start with as the only thing that could have really made a lot of contact with it is my fingers. And sure enough after a week or so, the window is starting to get funny looking again. I touch it all the time by accident, it's just in a perfect spot to get fingers on it.
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Just in case people aren't aware, the lens cover is not plastic but really thin coated glass. The coating thats been applied to it clearly isn't heavy duty enough for the type of ordinary use the device gets as mine also developed this problem, even though I'm very careful with how I treat it. I too used brasso to polish the coating off and then cleaned it with my Klearscreen and microfibre cloth and all is now well. I thought the blurry photos I was getting were because I wasn't holding the device still enough but it turned out to be Chromatic Aberation (click the link for an excellent Wikipedia description).

thanks for the advice, now my pics won't look like they've been altered by some cheap gaussian blur effects,

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Anyone else have tiny nicks in the aluminium

A tiny gripe for the perfectionists. But I noticed after a day, that I had a couple of tiny little nicks in the aluminium. As the phone had just been lying on my desk and hadn't been taken outside it must have come that way. I didn't see them at first because they are on the edges and not on the back surface. It is very tiny and it was because it caught the light that I noticed it. I remember when the iPhone 5 came out there were scores of people with chips on the black iPhones that showed silver underneath. This is nowhere near as bad as that....just the light catching the fact that the surface is not quite flat. I had the same with an iPhone 4 a few years ago as well. Seems to me that aluminium is very dingable, even in the factory.
Anyone else notice this?
Mines fine so far, no complaints.
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None really had a small black mark but managed to get rid of it quite easily
jonstatt said:
A tiny gripe for the perfectionists. But I noticed after a day, that I had a couple of tiny little nicks in the aluminium. As the phone had just been lying on my desk and hadn't been taken outside it must have come that way. I didn't see them at first because they are on the edges and not on the back surface. It is very tiny and it was because it caught the light that I noticed it. I remember when the iPhone 5 came out there were scores of people with chips on the black iPhones that showed silver underneath. This is nowhere near as bad as that....just the light catching the fact that the surface is not quite flat. I had the same with an iPhone 4 a few years ago as well. Seems to me that aluminium is very dingable, even in the factory.
Anyone else notice this?
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What colour and is it possible that you post some pictures? I would like to follow this as would a lot of potential buyers Thanks, I have run out of thanks for the day
Please keep us posted about this
markj338 said:
What colour and is it possible that you post some pictures? I would like to follow this as would a lot of potential buyers Thanks, I have run out of thanks for the day
Please keep us posted about this
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I tried to take a photo of it, but I am going to need someone at home to help me take the picture as its all about getting the light angled correctly so that its clear in the picture. So I will need someone to hold the phone at the right angle so I can get a picture to show. I will try and see if I can get a picture shortly. It is a silver phone, the only colour available right now.
It's not possible to make it 'perfect' so there will be slight defects.
Mine has a tiny little mark on the top that unless you really look for it in certain light its not possible to really see.
Unless there's a real dent or chip on the casing, it shouldn't be a problem. I know it can annoy perfectionists but man, that is aluminium, it is understandable (to an extent, of course)
yep, my silver came with tiny nicks..could feel them when i ran my fingers down the side.not there now [3 days later], maybe 'ironed' out lol
lezduur said:
yep, my silver came with tiny nicks..could feel them when i ran my fingers down the side.not there now [3 days later], maybe 'ironed' out lol
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Haha...I hope the metal is not SO soft such that it would be possible!
I have wondered if a fingernail is able to nick the edges of the metal. The anodising is only on the back surface. So the bevelled edges will be more suceptible. It is the edge where I noticed a couple of tiny nicks.
I was reading that a fingernal has a hardness of 2.5 (on some scale that I forget the name of). And aluminium is 2.5-3. This would suggest a fingernail striking the edge of the phone could put a nick it. But I am not willing to try intentionally to do so!
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Haha...I hope the metal is not SO soft such that it would be possible!
I have wondered if a fingernail is able to nick the edges of the metal. The anodising is only on the back surface. So the bevelled edges will be more suceptible. It is the edge where I noticed a couple of tiny nicks.
I was reading that a fingernal has a hardness of 2.5 (on some scale that I forget the name of). And aluminium is 2.5-3. This would suggest a fingernail striking the edge of the phone could put a nick it. But I am not willing to try intentionally to do so!
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Mohs scale! Yeah, they do overlap on the hardness scale, and nails have a history of being able to scratch aluminum (take Macbooks, for instance).
Yeah my wife came in the room yesterday and said when she pressed the power button, her finger nail scratched the silver lightly. looks like someones drawn a line with a lead pencil by the power button now. might try to buff it out but afraid if i wear the area down it will all go a dull grey.
jcb1985 said:
Yeah my wife came in the room yesterday and said when she pressed the power button, her finger nail scratched the silver lightly. looks like someones drawn a line with a lead pencil by the power button now. might try to buff it out but afraid if i wear the area down it will all go a dull grey.
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Note to self: Don't be lazy about cutting your nails once you get this phone.
Good call! :good:
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Yeah my wife came in the room yesterday and said when she pressed the power button, her finger nail scratched the
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My wife has damaged three buttons on 2 DAB radios and one remote control by that method.
Not even necessary to use a fingernail to operate the buttons, either.
jcb1985 said:
Yeah my wife came in the room yesterday and said when she pressed the power button, her finger nail scratched the silver lightly. looks like someones drawn a line with a lead pencil by the power button now. might try to buff it out but afraid if i wear the area down it will all go a dull grey.
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Rule number 1: never let your wife come anywhere near your phone :silly:
compact_bijou said:
My wife has damaged three buttons on 2 DAB radios and one remote control by that method.
Not even necessary to use a fingernail to operate the buttons, either.
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Have you ever tried growing your nails out super long? The pads of your fingers begin to cease to exist. :laugh:
This is weird. And yes aluminum does indeed has a weak mohs scale and that's the main reason why they anodize it. Now when anodized the mohs scale increases to 9 so how would a fingernail even scratch that?
i can assure you that it does scratch with false fingernails regardless of any specifications.
Riyal said:
This is weird. And yes aluminum does indeed has a weak mohs scale and that's the main reason why they anodize it. Now when anodized the mohs scale increases to 9 so how would a fingernail even scratch that?
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I dont believe all of the aluminium is anodised though. The back surface certainly is. But there is a bevelled edge which is almost shiny like a mirror, and I think that area is not treated and is also where I found a couple of tiny nicks (seen when angled under a spotlight) out of the box. It is unfortunately also the most likely bit to be hit knocked, swiped with a fingernail etc.
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I dont believe all of the aluminium is anodised though. The back surface certainly is. But there is a bevelled edge which is almost shiny like a mirror, and I think that area is not treated and is also where I found a couple of tiny nicks (seen when angled under a spotlight) out of the box. It is unfortunately also the most likely bit to be hit knocked, swiped with a fingernail etc.
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Could you post a picture of that bevelled edge? I'm not sure what you're saying but HTC One is unibody. And when you anodize aluminum you submerge the whole body into a solution. So it's quite impossible that some parts get's anodized and some aren't.
I guess I have to cut all my nails b4 buying it lmao
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Review of Xgear Exo skin...

Finally got home after being on duty for the last four days and found my skin waiting for me in the mailbox. started smiling like a school kid and went inside to see about putting it on. I must say I think this is the first time I have put anything on that is a dry installation. I was wondering how the install liquid would work on the back of the phone... Yea... Perhaps I should do more research huh?
Any way installation was a breeze. I had to lift it to re align it once as I was off just a touch, but the 3M material lifted clean and re-stuck with no issues. One thing I would note, once you align the camera, IR lens and flash cutouts, check the spacing around them VERY CLOSELY! I didn't know at the time but I was still just a touch off. it is really hard to see that I was off, but once I got the edges heated and pressed down and the corners formed to my device on two corners the material was right at the edge and I could tell that over time with me constantly inserting and removing from my pockets like I always do the material would start getting peeled back and eventually need to be removed. My solution was simply to gently trim with a razor. again this was due to MY install issue and not a problem with the skin.
I was wondering how the rounded corners were going to stick, and with a few seconds of warming with my wife's hair dryer, and a little gentle persuasion with my palm all the corners stuck nice and smoothly.
At first I wasn't going to install the two small front pieces, but so that I could review for the OP I decided I would. Again, just a simple matter of aligning and gently pressing down and all the cutouts lined right up and you would think this was installed by someone who knew what they were doing! I normally don't like screen protectors around the ear piece cutouts because the inner edges of the cutouts tend to be sharp and slightly rough against my ear, but I will leave the pieces on for at least a week to see how the feel.
Overall the quality of the skin and the ease and accuracy of install is way better than I was expecting. I am definitely impressed with the initial fit and finish of it. i will post back after a week of wearing it to post my opinion of how it is holding up.
Ok, here are some pics...
Overall shot of the back...
Here are shots of all the cutouts. Notice how exact they are. Little attention to detail needed for install, but once they are lined up they look GREAT!
Close up of the back cutouts... If you look at the IR lens and the left side of the camera cut out you can see that I am off with my alignment. I didn't notice until I had about 90% of the skin pressed down and just decided to live with my mistake.
And the bottom cutouts...
Top cutouts...
Speaker cutout...
Side view. Notice how close to the screen edge of the phone the skin goes to.
Here is my one boo-boo on install. Notice the slight rough edge on the side piece just below the face piece? that is where I trimmed just a bit off. it isn't noticeable on the phone, and again it was MY fault...
Here are a couple of the corners. they were easy to smooth out and make look good.
Cutouts for the ear piece, front camera, sensor, and what ever that little dot is... Microphone??
All in all, I really like the skin, and since it is cut from the 3M material I can only assume it will last. I just want to see how long the edges stick and look good with my use. I tend to be hard on them...
I also want to thank the company for doing this and going above and way beyond.
Here is a LINK to where you too can purchase these skins. (thanks for the reminder about this Sweets55)
That little dot next to the sensors is the front facing LED light. Its tiny, but very bright.
Flex · D950G · ROGERS
huh. no kidding. I should have known that.... lol
Nice review. I have the White Carbon Fiber on the way. Maybe put the link of the company in the OP. I thought about not putting on the front pieces as well.
http://www.xgearlive.com/products/android/lg/exo-skin-6
well sweets, that would have made sense to put a link there... I couldnt remember about the front LED, you really expect me to remember to include a link to the product?

Possible fix for scratched bezel

I saw a few guys complaining about the scratched/bumped bezel which looks ugly because the paint will reveal the metal underneath.
Well, I also damaged my watch by accidentally hitting it . Permanent markers are not a good solution because they do not last.
Apparently the bezel is made out of aluminium and only the watch body is made out of steel, that why, maybe, the bezel is less resistant.
Last evening though, an idea came to my mind, which I also applied on the watch. The result is promising .
Using some fine sandpaper (600) and some real paper after that, I completely removed the paint from the top of the bezel.
As a technique, I laid the sandpaper on a flat surface (table) and then I pressed the watch on it while rubbing it. After the paint was completely removed, I did the same operation but using a regular sheet of paper (to add a nice finish on the metal surface).
Please be careful: you have to press the watch against the sandpaper (laid on a flat, hard surface), not the other way around. In this way you leave no room for mistakes and the revealed metal will be uniform and nice, w/o weird edges.
This is the result.
That actually looks really nice! I'm Impressed with it . Just out of Curiosity what watchface is that also as it suits the watch really well.
That's a custom watch face for WatchMaker (built by me). You can download it from here.
I'm not sure I have the b... sorry guts for this kind of job
First Hardware Mod!
That looks great! I know it's just a matter of time before I will need to do this. I have sanded/polished like this before and may I warn everyone:
Make sure you keep the sandpaper flat. If it rolls up under the face it will scratch the screen.​Better yet, only do this with a screen protector.
Really nice. You should offer your services for a fee, to do this for others afraid to do it themselves. Not that you'd offer any guarantees, but you have proof you know how to do it right .
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Wow that's a great fix for this. Showed the scratches on my bezel to the lg team at ces and they were surprised and would follow up with me after the show. They said they hadn't come across this issue (which I find hard to believe). Like you mentioned OP the bezel is aluminum and the lower parts are steel and seem to be much more durable paint wise.
I'm hoping they might send me a new watch with some better paint but if not I'm definitely going to use this method!
it does look good, however once you do this there is no going back ........
if you want a better finish you may want to try crocus paper after you have removed the paint on the bezel, crocus paper is very fine and may give a smoother finish.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crocus_cloth
Once you have bumped the outer bezel into an outer object, hard enough to expose the metal under the paint, the is no going back either. But at least, there is a way to move forward .
ro_explorer said:
Once you have bumped the outer bezel into an outer object, hard enough to expose the metal under the pain, the is no going back either. But at least, there is a way to move forward .
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So very true.
I personally think that looks fantastic and a milliion times better than a scratched bezel. Mine hasn't recieved any scratches yet, but seeing your results, I'm no longer panicked about that happening.
Thank you for a great solution!
yes of course, I like the look of it too
How long have you had the watch since you did this? Is there any signs of corrosion on the exposed Aluminium?
ro_explorer said:
Once you have bumped the outer bezel into an outer object, hard enough to expose the metal under the paint, the is no going back either. But at least, there is a way to move forward .
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I did the operation on January 2nd (when I posted on the forum ). One full week passed since then .. no signs on the metal surface whatsoever (expected, it's aluminum and this does not corrode).
Here is a photo from today.
ro_explorer said:
I saw a few guys complaining about the scratched/bumped bezel which looks ugly because the paint will reveal the metal underneath.
Well, I also damaged my watch by accidentally hitting it . Permanent markers are not a good solution because they do not last.
Apparently the bezel is made out of aluminium and only the watch body is made out of steel, that why, maybe, the bezel is less resistant.
Last evening though, an idea came to my mind, which I also applied on the watch. The result is promising .
Using some fine sandpaper (600) and some real paper after that, I completely removed the paint from the top of the bezel.
As a technique, I laid the sandpaper on a flat surface (table) and then I pressed the watch on it while rubbing it. After the paint was completely removed, I did the same operation but using a regular sheet of paper (to add a nice finish on the metal surface).
Please be careful: you have to press the watch against the sandpaper (laid on a flat, hard surface), not the other way around. In this way you leave no room for mistakes and the revealed metal will be uniform and nice, w/o weird edges.
This is the result.
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I've had my watch for a little over a week and don't recall hitting it against anything but this morning noticed my bezel has a scratch longer than half an inch. Doing a Google search brought me here.
I was going to try your method today. I understand using the 600 grit sandpaper to remove the rest of the paint from the bezel but how does the regular paper help the finish? My uneducated guess would have been to try a finer grit sandpaper such as 1200 instead of the paper.
You can use whatever finer than 600 you have (even coarser but you may risk it going coarser that that).
Unfortunately, 600 was the finest I had in house at the moment that why I used id. After that though, the metal finish was matte, missing that fine polishing .... there is where the regular paper got into action. If you use a regular laser printer paper sheet, it will act as a very very fine sandpaper, enough to give that fine polishing on the pure metal (aluminium in this case - soft metal, no other reason.
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You can use whatever finer than 600 you have (even coarser but you may risk it going coarser that that).
Unfortunately, 600 was the finest I had in house at the moment that why I used id. After that though, the metal finish was matte, missing that fine polishing .... there is where the regular paper got into action. If you use a regular laser printer paper sheet, it will act as a very very fine sandpaper, enough to give that fine polishing on the pure metal (aluminium in this case - soft metal, no other reason.
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You sir are a genius - your solution actually makes the watch look better than before the problem.
dzyuba said:
You sir are a genius - your solution actually makes the watch look better than before the problem.
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Please tell us what did you do exactly to the watch, step by step. Thanks.
My request to any other people who want to adopt this method, please record a video of the process. Then upload it to youtube and share it with us. Thanks.
The entire process that I used is described in detail in the first post of this thread.
There is also the possibility to use a nail file (there are some guys who did that and the results are quite nice as well).
Guys,
This looks fantastic. Perhaps even better than stock. I've got a 1/4" scratch, so not quite ready to take the plunge...but certainly thinking about it.
-Doc
I should probably post this here also. I managed to ding up my watch pretty badly crashing my skateboard, and a user suggested I try this method. I did it a little differently by finishing with a 3000 grit and using metal polish cream on the exposed metal to give it a nice shine. Here are before and after pictures.
The metal polish is definitely adding a nice touch. Thanks for the info.
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64GB model. Dead Pixel on bottom right of edge panel.. Very disappointed

I am a Best Buy employee so should be no issue with getting an exchange. Looks like we have one of the 64GB AT&T ones in stock. Gonna be there bright and early to get mine exchanged.
I would advise everyone to keep an eye out.. I actually didn't notice it this morning. Around 6pm I noticed a black part on the screen and thought it was a glitch, so restarted but it was still there.
The line on the right side is just my temporary screen protector film. LOL. I bought an Invisishield and will install it on my replacement device tomorrow.
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I am a Best Buy employee so should be no issue with getting an exchange. Looks like we have one of the 64GB AT&T ones in stock. Gonna be there bright and early to get mine exchanged.
I would advise everyone to keep an eye out.. I actually didn't notice it this morning. Around 6pm I noticed a black part on the screen and thought it was a glitch, so restarted but it was still there.
The line on the right side is just my temporary screen protector film. LOL. I bought an Invisishield and will install it on my replacement device tomorrow.
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That's not a single deal pixel.
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That's not a single deal pixel.
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All good now.. got my replacement.
Also have installed a Invisible Shield.. After this picture was taken.
deepen915 said:
All good now.. got my replacement.
Also have installed a Invisible Shield.. After this picture was taken.
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Did you go with the regular or HD InvisibleShield? I'm not a big fan of their new alcohol swab method for activating the adhesive on the HD model. I ended up using left over spray from several previous InvisibleShield installs.
When I used the alcohol swab provided, it just left lint embedded in he adhesive and I ended up with a bunch between the glass and the screen protector. I saw it before I even began to squeegee, so I broke out the spray and went old school. Turned out perfect after that.
InvisibleShield really screwed up this new application method because it leaves no room for error.
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Did you go with the regular or HD InvisibleShield? I'm not a big fan of their new alcohol swab method for activating the adhesive on the HD model. I ended up using left over spray from several previous InvisibleShield installs.
When I used the alcohol swab provided, it just left lint embedded in he adhesive and I ended up with a bunch between the glass and the screen protector. I saw it before I even began to squeegee, so I broke out the spray and went old school. Turned out perfect after that.
InvisibleShield really screwed up this new application method because it leaves no room for error.
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I did get the HD model. Yeah the swab was horrible. Mine had issues it has some lint on the bottom right corner. Screen is fully visible but slightly cloudy. Good thing I only paid $5 as an employee lol. I'll just buy another.
deepen915 said:
All good now.. got my replacement.
Also have installed a Invisible Shield.. After this picture was taken.
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Actually, your InvisibleShield screen protector doesn't look anything like mine. Mine covers completely to through the curved edges. Is your protector for a different device?
deepen915 said:
I did get the HD model. Yeah the swab was horrible. Mine had issues it has some lint on the bottom right corner. Screen is fully visible but slightly cloudy. Good thing I only paid $5 as an employee lol. I'll just buy another.
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Yeah, thanks for affirming that. I'm pretty sure they did the whole thing as a huge cost saving measure. It damn sure wasn't an improved method to install.
If you compare the savings between the difference in cost for the little plastic liquid spray canisters they provided and the supposed new and improved cheap alcohol swabs, Zagg just made out like a bandit.
Their packaging and marketing keeps getting better and better, but their quality and service keeps getting worse and worse.
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Actually, your InvisibleShield screen protector doesn't look anything like mine. Mine covers completely to through the curved edges. Is your protector for a different device?
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No this pic is yesterday morning and is not an invisible shield lol I said I installed after I took the pic. Installed it last night and looks just like yours. How did u do it so perfectly? I think I messed up by not using the squeegee in one motion. I did sections and I think it dried as I was doing it. I have some cloudiness and lint on the bottom. I'll have to get a new one.
deepen915 said:
No this pic is yesterday morning and is not an invisible shield lol I said I installed after I took the pic. Installed it last night and looks just like yours. How did u do it so perfectly? I think I messed up by not using the squeegee in one motion. I did sections and I think it dried as I was doing it. I have some cloudiness and lint on the bottom. I'll have to get a new one.
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I knew as soon as I saw that piece of crap alcohol swap that the new method was flawed. ZAGG has lost their damn minds!!
The whole point behind getting these types of screen protectors on right is to get them and your fingers sprayed down really good. Once both are pretty much soaking, I pinch the protector between my finger and slide off excess fluid which in turn takes the lint/dust with it. Then I spray just a bit more on and apply it. I get it aligned and squeegee. While you are squeegeeing (is that a word?) and you come across a bubble that isn't going away, it isn't a bubble. It's lint/dust. Simply lift the protector at the edge and spray or apply some additional soapy water with your sprayer or fingers and get it out of there. Carefully fold the screen protector back so as to not allow additional lint/dust to get under there while you were dealing with the last one.
I don't try to use the squeegee to get every bubble. I just get most of the water out. Once 90% of it's gone, I work the edges with my fingers and around things like home buttons and camera lenses and sensors.
I guess my point is, even though their new instructions call for the use of the new alcohol swap, the old soapy water trick works perfectly fine. Actually, better.
done12many2 said:
I knew as soon as I saw that piece of crap alcohol swap that the new method was flawed. ZAGG has lost their damn minds!!
The whole point behind getting these types of screen protectors on right is to get them and your fingers sprayed down really good. Once both are pretty much soaking, I pinch the protector between my finger and slide off excess fluid which in turn takes the lint/dust with it. Then I spray just a bit more on and apply it. I get it aligned and squeegee. While you are squeegeeing (is that a word?) and you come across a bubble that isn't going away, it isn't a bubble. It's lint/dust. Simply lift the protector at the edge and spray or apply some additional soapy water with your sprayer or fingers and get it out of there. Carefully fold the screen protector back so as to not allow additional lint/dust to get under there while you were dealing with the last one.
I don't try to use the squeegee to get every bubble. I just get most of the water out. Once 90% of it's gone, I work the edges with my fingers and around things like home buttons and camera lenses and sensors.
I guess my point is, even though their new instructions call for the use of the new alcohol swap, the old soapy water trick works perfectly fine. Actually, better.
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Alright so I'll buy another one tonight and see if that works. Good advice, thanks.
Here is what mine looks like.
deepen915 said:
Alright so I'll buy another one tonight and see if that works. Good advice, thanks.
Here is what mine looks like.
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Looks pretty good to me. If your trying to get it closer to the edge, all I did was continue to work mine while it was still wet. Just a little at a time while I was working the water out from the center of the screen towards the edge.
Good luck man. Like I said, I think it looks great as it is now.
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Looks pretty good to me. If your trying to get it closer to the edge, all I did was continue to work mine while it was still wet. Just a little at a time while I was working the water out from the center of the screen towards the edge.
Good luck man. Like I said, I think it looks great as it is now.
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Got another one and did it again. Lint is gone now but got some micro bubbles. Let's see if it goes away. Not noticeable when screen is on.
Also even with no Zagg. I noticed some screen blemishes. Like it seems cloudy in some parts. I put brightness all the way while I was wiping it down to prepare the Zagg install. It's very noticeable. I may need to get my phone replaced again smh.
That completely sucks to hear about the cloudiness issue. I haven't heard of that one yet. I've heard of the swirls, scratches, and whites appearing yellow issues, but not the cloudiness.
I would lose my mind if I had to take a phone back twice for a screen related issue. It's probably not as big of a deal for you since you can do it while you're at work so to speak, but when your spending a grand on a phone, you just don't expect to have to take it back two times to be replaced.
Switching gears back to the bubbles in the Zagg. If you turn the screen on and they are barely noticeable, but with a slight prism light effect to them, you're fine. They'll dry up and be gone in hours.
If however you turn the screen on and see a shadow, it won't be going away when it's dried.
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That completely sucks to hear about the cloudiness issue. I haven't heard of that one yet. I've heard of the swirls, scratches, and whites appearing yellow issues, but not the cloudiness.
I would lose my mind if I had to take a phone back twice for a screen related issue. It's probably not as big of a deal for you since you can do it while you're at work so to speak, but when your spending a grand on a phone, you just don't expect to have to take it back two times to be replaced.
Switching gears back to the bubbles in the Zagg. If you turn the screen on and they are barely noticeable, but with a slight prism light effect to them, you're fine. They'll dry up and be gone in hours.
If however you turn the screen on and see a shadow, it won't be going away when it's dried.
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Yeah the Zagg is good enough for me.
And yeah I can see the cloudiness when scrolling on a white page in Chrome. I really don't want to have to exchange it again but may have to if it is really annoying me over the nextra few days.
It's like gray smudges going diagonally on the glass. I can't tell if its on the actual amoled panel or glass.
i have dead pixel on my Galaxy S6 Edge Plus
got the dead pixel after 4 Months using the phone.
how did i get a dead pixel??? i don't understand.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JbgaYIfdZo
seem's very small
do you think i should repair the phone?

Is anyone else's xz1 compact bent or curved?

Is anyone else's xz1 compact body bent or not straight?
I have had mind a couple of weeks and been super careful with it, so I don't think I bent it or something. I didn't notice until today when I set my phone down on a flat table as I was finicking with it when I noticed it rocked back and forth and wasn't perfectly flat to the table. It is particularly noticeable in the front side (I think part of this is due to the edges around the screen not being completely flush or evenly flat. The back does it much less, but I think that may because of the curved back on the back. After looking down the back side of the phone I realized it was clearly not straight and could see It curve.
Anyone with similar issues? Thanks!
The border around the camera lens is protuding a tiny bit from the back of the phone, to protect the lens from scratches.
The top and bottom edges of the phone are protruding to protect the screen from being scratched when placed face down.
Though it does not rock for me.
What sort of curve?
Mine doesn't rock when on its back, and I have a screen protector on the front which is slightly taller than the top and bottom metal caps, so it is also stable.
When I bought my phone in store, per procedure they had me inspect the phone for obvious damage or defects.
The first unit I got unfortunately had assembly issues with the top and bottom metal caps, there was a noticeable gap on both ends and they protruded unevenly. One end protruded to the front, and the other to the back.
At first they tried to play it off as non-issue, citing manufacturing tolerance, and refused to let me exchange a new one, but I insisted and eventually they agreed to give me another unit, which is the one I'm currently using.
Does your unit have similar unevenness with the metal caps? Maybe that's the cause of the instability. I do not perceive any curves on the body of my phone.
The border around the camera lens is protuding a tiny bit from the back of the phone, to protect the lens from scratches.
The top and bottom edges of the phone are protruding to protect the screen from being scratched when placed face down.
Though it does not rock for me.
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I didn't think about the camera, good point, that may be some of the issue when it's on its back. The rocking when it's on its back is mild, so it may be the camera lens ring. However, I can look down the phone close with my naked eye and notice the bend pretty easily.
I do realize the front 'metal caps' protrude a little to protect the screen, but as mhaha says below, those edges are not necessarily uneven. The top metal cap sticks out further, in general, than the bottom. Individually, if I run my finger down the cap edges on the face of the phone I think I can feel where they get closer/further from the screen in places (it is very slight, so maybe that one is more in my head). I also didn't notice the uneven gap edge until you said that, I can't really physically feel that one so I think it's a little less of an issue. But, yes, on the left side of my screen it's super snug up against the side bezel and on the right I can see a very slight gap, in comparison.
My phone rocks bad on its face/front , diagonally from the cameras corner to the corner opposite.
I have actually requested my return (I ordered mine online) and will very likely be sending it back. I am not sure ill get a replacement either, for now just the return.
Thank you both very much!
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What sort of curve?
Mine doesn't rock when on its back, and I have a screen protector on the front which is slightly taller than the top and bottom metal caps, so it is also stable.
When I bought my phone in store, per procedure they had me inspect the phone for obvious damage or defects.
The first unit I got unfortunately had assembly issues with the top and bottom metal caps, there was a noticeable gap on both ends and they protruded unevenly. One end protruded to the front, and the other to the back.
At first they tried to play it off as non-issue, citing manufacturing tolerance, and refused to let me exchange a new one, but I insisted and eventually they agreed to give me another unit, which is the one I'm currently using.
Does your unit have similar unevenness with the metal caps? Maybe that's the cause of the instability. I do not perceive any curves on the body of my phone.
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you may be having this issue?
https://sumahoinfo.com/xperia-xz1-compact-so-02k-docomo-fuguai-issue-body-twisted-distorted
It's in Japanese but the photo explains, I think.
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you may be having this issue?
https://sumahoinfo.com/xperia-xz1-compact-so-02k-docomo-fuguai-issue-body-twisted-distorted
It's in Japanese but the photo explains, I think.
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Yeah, my top metal cap isn't as in line as the bottom, now that I see that. Thanks very much! That would definitely contribute to a wobble on a flat surface.
But, there are still all the other issues I've noted, so I'm quite confident it's a number of issues contributing to it all.
Thanks!
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you may be having this issue?
https://sumahoinfo.com/xperia-xz1-compact-so-02k-docomo-fuguai-issue-body-twisted-distorted
It's in Japanese but the photo explains, I think.
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1230m said:
Yeah, my top metal cap isn't as in line as the bottom, now that I see that. Thanks very much! That would definitely contribute to a wobble on a flat surface.
But, there are still all the other issues I've noted, so I'm quite confident it's a number of issues contributing to it all.
Thanks!
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The photo isn't quite a good descriptor of the problem though.
The photo suggests that it's just the way the metal end-caps are installed is what's causing the rocking.
If you run the link through a translator, the author states that the metal caps are misaligned because the plastic/glass-fiber body itself is warped.
So you may want to look at getting the phone replaced.
I dropped my phone on the road 2nd day of use. The metal edge got scratched, but the phone survived. The only other issue I noticed was twisted body. Looking from the edge, the twisted edge was easy to notice, and surface wobble was also there. I held the edges of the phone and put some pressure in opposite direction (trying to twist it back), and now my phone seems straight/aligned).
Please don't try this at home and come complain to me if something goes wrong. Since I dropped my phone, I couldn't just return it and get it replaced. Also not sure if the drop twisted it, or just pressure in my jeans pocket. Also not sure if the twist will come back. For now, the phone is fine.
I just bought XZ1 (not XZ1C) in UK, and having similar issue.
I'm not sure if the "cap" in misplaced or the whole body is twisted, but when I put the device face down, it rocks
pbarrette said:
The photo isn't quite a good descriptor of the problem though.
The photo suggests that it's just the way the metal end-caps are installed is what's causing the rocking.
If you run the link through a translator, the author states that the metal caps are misaligned because the plastic/glass-fiber body itself is warped.
So you may want to look at getting the phone replaced.
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Thanks for the further insight, I'm grateful! I will be returning the phone. I'm undecided on whether or not I would like to purchase another after. I kinda wanted to see how the future quality/reviews are more. Based on some with similar issues, I'm not sure ill be getting another, but I'll see I guess. Thanks again!
I dropped my phone on the road 2nd day of use. The metal edge got scratched, but the phone survived. The only other issue I noticed was twisted body. Looking from the edge, the twisted edge was easy to notice, and surface wobble was also there.
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Thanks very much for your input! I appreciate it. The body twist and warp (these are better way to describe it, thanks, as the phone isn't so much curved/bent as it, or the single piece back/body specifically, is warped) is quite noticeable with the one I have too (looking at the edge like you said). However, I don't think I've dropped the phone (too hard at least and no visible scrathes, scrapes, etc.) I also keep a phone in a coat pocket, bag, or just take it out and set it down when I'm not out and about, so I don't think I would have caused the warp myself. Thanks again!

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