Downlgrade qtek 9090 from WM5 to WM2003SE - MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading

hi, I tryed to downgrade my qtek 9090 to wm2003se but I had no success.. i would do it because i have some problems with bluetooth. in this forum I found this article which explains how to fix bluetooth problems ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=274425 ) but I'm not able to find all files nedeed... is here someone who can help me? it's the same for me downgrade the rom or fix bluetooth problem.
I have the original rom downloaded from www.pocketdevice.it but when I try to install it, the installation software sais that with wm5 it cannot install the rom (ROM.Qtek.9090.v.1.40.04 ITA).
please excuse me for my bad english! I hope that I've been quite clear to explain my problem..
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I found this page http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_1.40.00_Upgrade but
# Qtek 1.40.556
# Qtek 1.40.553
# Qtek 1.40.147
doesn't work...
edit 2:
I tryed to restore an old backup but wm5 doesn't accept wm2003se's backup.. wm5 doesn't accept backup at all.. uff..

first to exclude the most common mistakes:
- did you set the phone in bootloader before starting the flashing?
- did you use the BAupgrade_noID.exe, instead of the BAupgrade.exe?

- I only tryed to install the original ROM using a USB connection.. Where can I find the other files you mentioned?
- With "bootloader mode" you mean click on the starting button and camera button at the same time? When I upgraded my ROM from wm2003se to wm5 I only connected my Qtek and started WM5 from my computer not using the "bootloader mode"

Lollo_RM said:
- I only tryed to install the original ROM using a USB connection.. Where can I find the other files you mentioned?
- With "bootloader mode" you mean click on the starting button and camera button at the same time? When I upgraded my ROM from wm2003se to wm5 I only connected my Qtek and started WM5 from my computer not using the "bootloader mode"
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I know that, when you try and flash the original rom or original updates, you usually don't have to do the things above, but, when i had to downgrade to wm2003se, it wouldn't have worked without.
1. i try and attach the _noid.exe that i downloaded with a helmi rom, as google wouldn't find a direct download source and i wouldn't want to search this forum forever, and as you don't search it yourself, i assume you don't want to spend more time looking for it as well. Anyway, the noid.exe is the same flashing prog as the original but it bypasses the check for country id and other crap.
2. the bootloader mode is also essential because, well... i don't know, why exactly, but i assume that not all roms and flashing software manage to enter the bootloader mode correctly, or too late, and you could get stupid errors like it was the wrong device for that flash.
so, i hope, the upload worked, it is everything you need to flash your device, either put the "nk.nbf" of your rom in there, or unpack the original rom and put the noID file in that folder and start it

ok, i did exactly what you wrote and now everything work! thank for you help!

why would you even downgrade? i upgraded mine to wm6 and i think i'm not going back to 2003se

first of all, because english is not my mother language and the os language is english. i found some problems using bluetooth and wifi connections and i could not download the right patch so i decided to downgrade to wm233se

SIM TOOL KIT is the only reason one would want to downgrade

Maybe you could try an 6.1 ROM.
RUU_BA_xplode_WWE_6.11.00 works perfectly and has an standard wm6
interface.

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Stuck at bootscreen after flash

I just flashed my Qtek 9100 with the T-mobile rom "RUU_Prodigy_1060204_105_11210_TMO_UK_Ship.exe" from the ftp. I have tested a lot of different roms without trouble. But after the flash my Qtek is stuck at the bootscreen just displaying
IPL 1.06
SPL 1.06
GSM 01.12.10
Tried a hardreset and it says format complete but after a reboot I am stuck at the bootscreen again. I am terrified - can I make my beloved qtek to work again or is it just a piece of expensive junk now ?
Sorry, stupid me I was as easy as start in USB mode and reflash and it booted normally again
easycure1974 said:
I just flashed my Qtek 9100 with the T-mobile rom "RUU_Prodigy_1060204_105_11210_TMO_UK_Ship.exe" from the ftp. I have tested a lot of different roms without trouble. But after the flash my Qtek is stuck at the bootscreen just displaying
IPL 1.06
SPL 1.06
GSM 01.12.10
Tried a hardreset and it says format complete but after a reboot I am stuck at the bootscreen again. I am terrified - can I make my beloved qtek to work again or is it just a piece of expensive junk now ?
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I am in the same situation now..
I am trying to re-flash the original ROM now, enter the booloader menu by holding voice-dial+CAMERA while resetting. then connect USB an try to re-flash.. It works for 30 minutes now without luck, I don't know what to do either... HELP!!
and a hint to those that are NEW: if you want to screw up your device, play with ROM upgrades... you will end up like us..
easycure1974 said:
Sorry, stupid me I was as easy as start in USB mode and reflash and it booted normally again
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PLEASE help me, what utility did you use to reflash?
Just press the camerabutton and reset and then you will come to the USB mode and then just used the flash utility file again and start the flash again and then it shall work.
I used the RUU_Prodigy_1060204_105_11210_TMO_UK_Ship.exe form the ftp once again and it worked
easycure1974 said:
Just press the camerabutton and reset and then you will come to the USB mode and then just used the flash utility file again and start the flash again and then it shall work.
I used the RUU_Prodigy_1060204_105_11210_TMO_UK_Ship.exe form the ftp once again and it worked
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doesn't work form me because I didn't unlock before it crashed.. now I can't re-flash it..
ok, but then use the right official flash for your device - if it is a qtek use a qtek flash or imate if it is an imate device. The most flash files is available on the ftp.
easycure1974 said:
ok, but then use the right official flash for your device - if it is a qtek use a qtek flash or imate if it is an imate device. The most flash files is available on the ftp.
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10x easycure, you are an easy cure for my troubles I am downloading it and I am sure it will work this time ( have a QTEK 9100)
Another question: did RUU_Prodigy_1060204_105_11210_TMO_UK_Ship.exe upgrade your radio ROM as well? what machine do you own? I think of flashing it eventually as well..
I hope it will work for you!
Yes the t-mobile upgraded everything - but it has a lot of crap in the extended rom that I don´t like and with the new rom versions it doesn´t seem possible to delete anything from the extended rom.
So I will flash it again when a newer flash from qtek is available. Tried the Qtek_9100_1_6_7_ENG.zip rom but it is just OS - I dont like the idea of using OS from Qtek and the rest of the software from some other brand.
I have a swedish Qtek 9100
easycure,
I don't like the crap either but I found someone's suggestion to soft reset the device just before installing software from extended ROM (just after aligning screen). I just had to install some CAB's manually to get MMS support etc.
Hope this helps you also
Priit said:
easycure,
I don't like the crap either but I found someone's suggestion to soft reset the device just before installing software from extended ROM (just after aligning screen). I just had to install some CAB's manually to get MMS support etc.
Hope this helps you also
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I tried that but I didn´t got the mms to work with that but then I shall make another try with that!
I installed Shortcut-MMS1-JAVA6XX-CV-VOICE-EmailWiz-TMO-03Nov05.CAB to get MMS support. I also installed coouple of CABs that had "Camera" in the name hoping it will improve camera functionality or something

sx66 bluetooth expired. missing rom... here is a sollution!

SX66 BLUETOOTH Expired
Hi. I can not use Bluetooth since I downgraded from wm2005 to WM2003. When I set up Bluetooth, it says”
BTTrayCE
Sorry! Bluetooth can no longer be used because the license is expired
BDA: 00:00:00:00:00:00
Key:
E3E534E19B3E8214C543A
73COABB9A9074DD3B175
3515CD8
Please help. Thanks. I have tried completed install from original rom CE nad Radio. But the same problem. The extended rom is dead I can not upgrade it since it faila at 1%.
Please help Thanks.
Hi
Did you carefully follow WM2005 -> WM2003 process described in wiki ?
It's very important that you resize, reformat ExtROM and do some other stuff before flashing back to WM2003.
Good luck
i have the same problem.. since octobre without solution
Hi
I ask again.
Did you guys restore your ExtROM correctly ?
(using Repart_DOC.exe tool)
GO to wiki -> blueangel -> blueangel WM2005 page -> how to downgrade....
Good luck
hi robal
I tried but when i use Repart_DOC
I set size 16384 or other sizes but if I click format now, the error message pops up"
Create handle failed.
Please help. Thanks!
Hi
Maybe You forgot to do as described in point "3" of downgrade process :
Prep your WM5 device by formating Storage and Hive.
Press Power + Softreset, and when the colored stripes (well, this is the bootscreen )shows on the screen.
If you have a PH20B device such as MDAIII, QTEK 9090, XDAIIs, PDA2K etc.
Quickly press Record+Camera before the versions appears at bottom right
OR, press Power+Softreset+Camera+Record at the same time.
If you have a PH20B1 device such as SX66
Quickly press Record+Windows Media before the versions appears at bottom right
OR, press Power+Softreset+Windows Media Player button+Record at the same time.
Either way mentioned above should work.
You'll see three options; change the second and the third to "yes".
If you have a PH20B device such as MDAIII, QTEK 9090, XDAIIs, PDA2K etc.
You can do that with the camera and the record buttons.
If you have a PH20B1 device such as SX66
You can do that with the Windows Media Player and the record buttons.
If you are done, press the mail button, it'll show a white screen for a while, just wait.
If the bootscreen, aka. the colored stripes is displayed, Wait more, you are booting.
The welcome screen to set up your device should appear soon.
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This should've been done when you had WM2005.
I think it's important to do it, before trying to run Repart_DOC (on WM2003).
Any idea ?
If you've forgotten to do it. You probably will have to intall WM2005 again, do it, intall WM2003 and Repart_DOC it. HUh
have fun
DEAR robal,
Thanks for your information. In fact I did everything like you said before. but nothing help.
I know that I have to creat an extended_Rom in order to get it work. (this is not a big deal since we can install manually.
The most imfortant thing is the bluetooth error. Please help me find a sollutin for it. Thanks!
Hi
So you say, you have WM2003 installed with Extrom CABs from some official ROM ? OK
I'm not familiar with this BT failure. Please tell me exactly what ROM are you using ( CE , Radio, ExtROM )
And what version of BT stack you have.
This error is caused by a portion of the Bluetooth memory being overwritten by something else. The people who are trying to help you are right...you need to reflash the device because something didn't work correctly last time.
I had a tool that restored BT MAC-address, but I cannot find it on HDD.
It was sent by imate tech support as a fix for the "bt license has expired" error, so you may try to contact them, or search this forum.
please mamaich if you can find it this will be very helpful
Dear mamaich,
Thanks for your great imformation. I love to get it as soon as you find it. Again, thanks for your pricious time to repond.
Looks Like every body is stuck...I had solved this problem twice and with full success...on ROM 1.4 pls install the Broadcom 1.6 cab and yes...yr problem is solved... :lol:
Only thing..I was not able to put it install thru Ext ROM...even by editing config.txt....may be someone here can do this :roll:
new problem come out after previous one
hi, I have another problem so.. i need your help.
before, My sx66 problem with bluetooth and the Extended_ROM did not exist.
Now, after many tried to install rom from Tmobile, O2. sx66 over and over again, the extended_ROM is now okay to install but sadly the Storage doen't exist any more. Also some contact, task .. pop up after full installation. Finally,after extended_ROM Complete installed, window
Connection Flash Mangaer
pop ups" Saved data is corrupted.
System will erase all data to fix
this error
Yes No
but It does fix anything after I click yes button.
Please help to recover my storage. If there any software that can partition rom for ppc. please share.
p.s. the bluetooth now is freezing.
what u hv to do is use the Ext ROM Unlocker and use Repart_Doc...Set the size of yr Ext ROM...say 15 MB or so and then do the Repartitioning...now flash yr device...u will get yr Ext Rom Back with no such errors as reported by you
problem solved.
Dear hdubli,
Thanks for your help. Everything works properly now. Now my sx66 works at factory shipped. I am very happy.
Specailly thank to Hdubi for providing an exellent solution.
hdubli said:
Looks Like every body is stuck...I had solved this problem twice and with full success...on ROM 1.4 pls install the Broadcom 1.6 cab and yes...yr problem is solved... :lol:
Only thing..I was not able to put it install thru Ext ROM...even by editing config.txt....may be someone here can do this :roll:
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Hi hdubli, a question, what is the ROM 1.4 of the blueangel?

Downgrade from AKU3.5 to Original ROM...HELP PLEASE!!

Hi.
I'm having some serious problems running WM5 on my SPV M2000 (Blue Angel). Internet Explorer keeps crashing, doesn't browse...bluetooth isn't recieving files from my PC, camera closes on its own, MSN Mobile not working at ALL...etc.
I want to remove this AKU3.5 ROM and return back to my previous WM2003SE ROM from Orange or even Imate. I downloaded the Orange V2.5 ROM update but failed to initialize the update process since the Country ID was incorrect for some odd reason.
Guys can you please help me out of it. Just tell me the safest and easiest way to downgrade back to the original ROM. And is possible that when i downgrade, i can install the Imate PDA2k ROM on my Orange SPV M2000?
I'd really really appreciate your help. Looking forward to your replies!
My device information details are:
ROM version : 5.04.09.WWE
ROM date : 11/02/06
Radio Version : 1.13.00
Protocol Version : 1337.42
ExtROM version : *empty* (blank)
i would make use of wm5 maupgrade_noID utility to flash the .nbf file of wm3 back to the original rom.
imatrix said:
i would make use of wm5 maupgrade_noID utility to flash the .nbf file of wm3 back to the original rom.
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Yeah hi. Thanks for the reply, could you please give me a step by step procedure how am i suppose to do it? Where do i get the files from and how do i go about it.
I'd be grateful man!
As i see you use helmi aku 3.5 rom.
when u extracted the file out of the zip file u initially downloaded, u should see a folder name PH20B1. It includes maupgrade_noid utility there.
so basically what u do is extract the original rom (nk.nbf) into that PH20B1 folder, then put your device to bootloader mode, flash it as normal.
imatrix said:
As i see you use helmi aku 3.5 rom.
when u extracted the file out of the zip file u initially downloaded, u should see a folder name PH20B1. It includes maupgrade_noid utility there.
so basically what u do is extract the original rom (nk.nbf) into that PH20B1 folder, then put your device to bootloader mode, flash it as normal.
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Actually i didn't install Helmi AKU3.5 ROM. I bought my phone used, and had this rom already installed. Now i want to get back to my original factory ROM. And i can't seem to get how to do it
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Upgrades
link above lists all the original rom for each device / operator.
please see the attachment, it's the utility to upgrade.
for further information please read wiki though.
Thank you imatrix. Will go through the link you provided. Thanks for all your help!
By the way...is it possible for me to flash an Imate ROM on an Orange SPV M2000? I find Imate ROMs more stable than Orange.
ooo?/
I think, you will have a serious problem wwhen you go back to wm2003 mate.. you're bluetooth will be useless, I don't know why and how,,.. I tried wm2003 downgrade last time, and I was worried because when I try to turn my bt on, it keeps may saying that the bluetooth software is expired..bla..bla..and I can't turn my bluetooth on.. though I haven't tried installing abt stack, but I guess same thing will happen.. but its for you to find out.. theres a very comprehensive details on downgrading/upgrading roms on blueangel wiki.. to get rid of that country I'd error, just use maupgradeutnoid.exe which you can also download from there

Charmer crashed with the new Aku 3.3!

Hello!
I tried to flash my Charmer with the new german Aku 3.3. At first everything seems to be ok, but at 95% it stops and i got the Message: update error- there is an comunication problem! So what can i do? I tried to flash the old rom back but there comes also at 95% a message: invalid command - nfb file cannot be used for your pda!
Please help me !
Greetings Musna!
Ps: can somebody upload a sd image for the mda compact II !
Go to bootloader mode, then try to flash RUU rom (1.x). You can find it on Charmer wiki.
It doesn`t work too, it always stops at 95% has anyone another idea?
did you try hard reset?
Yes i tried hard reset, but it is always in bootloader!
I have also the same problem. Tried to upgrade to version 3.3. Everytime it stops at 80%. I don't know why?! I can repair it with the software and re-run it. But it has the same effect.
Now i will try to downgrade to 2.6 again. I really don't understand what causes the problem. I hope i will get this thing running again....
EDIT: I reflashed the device with the older 2.6 ROM and it is working right now. However I didn't really get why it gets stuck at 80% with 3.3 ?!?!
nitrane said:
I have also the same problem. Tried to upgrade to version 3.3. Everytime it stops at 80%. I don't know why?! I can repair it with the software and re-run it. But it has the same effect.
Now i will try to downgrade to 2.6 again. I really don't understand what causes the problem. I hope i will get this thing running again....
EDIT: I reflashed the device with the older 2.6 ROM and it is working right now. However I didn't really get why it gets stuck at 80% with 3.3 ?!?!
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The aku3.3 is up to date the bootloader version!!!
IPL and ISP version now is 3.00.
http://www.windowsceportal.hu/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1079
Sorry but i do not speak hungarian. What do you want to tell me ?
I´ve got the same: My charmer is in Bootloader IPL 2.06.0001 SPL 3.08.0001
I can´t downgrade to AKU 2: Please order a newer Version.
Every try to upgrade to AKU 3.3 failed at 95% with Error 326.
Is there any help for my charmer???
oh.**** !!!! I got the same problem with them and my first pda uk rom already empty screen and then i try with my scrond pda German rom it the same problem and now just only show in bootloader screen.Have i ask someone who knowage about this he told me that if SLP in you PDA have chang it be hard to repair.So,I think I lose 2 PDA did I try to flash in T-Mobile Official Rom de that i hope to develop it but i hve to kill 2 Charmer.Who take responsibilities,T-Mobile right ???
Ok no problem you can repair it! At first you have to brand your device with the rom you want to! After 95% the Problem will come again! When it stops you have to go with a reset to bootloader again.When your device is in bootloader you have to install the Radio Rom from this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=302768
After that your device will be able to boot again and it should work!- But the Problem during the installation will stay,so you have always to use this way to flash your Mda compact II!
In the new rom there must be a problem with the radio rom and this causes the broken device.
I`m sorry for my bad english but i`m not used to talk very much! So i hope you understand what i mean!
Greetings from Austria Musna!
that link is broken
Then try this one:
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Prophet/Radio_Roms/Prophet_G4_RadioRom_v2.47.11.exe
You can find the radio rom also on the ftp server. Prophet> Radio Roms>Prophet_G4_RadioRom_v2.47.11.exe
You can try different Radio Rom versions, i have flashed the v.247.11 and it worked.
Normaly it should work!
Thank u so much !!! My Charmer secrond PDA come back have life again and it can working.So,my Charmer first PDA UK rom still empty screen and notthing working when i press any button.Who can slove this problem !!
Musna do you have any massage such as msn

Question about downgrade/upgrade

I upgrad my Qtek 9090 to WM 2005 a few days ago and now I want to revert it to WM 2003 but I don't have any backup. And I can't find any 2k3 rom in Xda ftp to download.....
In Qtek site I can find the page with has upgrades but I'm unable to download anything, I'm enter my IMEI and receive a message that says " Not a valid IMEI# (only Brightpoint authorized original products are supported by this site. Contact your place of purchase for ongoing support of your device)".
I think that is cos they don't store any IMEI if cell is sold outside Europe/Asia...
Well, searching in the net, I've found 2 2k3 ROMs, from iMate's ftp. One is i-mate_PDA2k_WWE_12200_162_10600_SHIP.exe and the other is PDA2k_PTB_12205_179_10600_SHIP.exe. I think the second ROM is in Brazillian Portuguese....
The question is: can I upload this ROM to my Qtek 9090, in order to revert it to WM 2003 ????
If the answer is no, someone can show me a link to download the correct ROM ?? For me, doesn't matter if this ROM is in english or Brazillian portuguese....
Thanks!
If you know how to install ROM you can install any of those (be aware of side efects and how to bypass device check; remeber you have to through downgrade procedure with ExtROM reformatting, if you deleted ExtROM while upgrading to WM5).
If you like any specific rom from the Wiki, I still have backup and can upload it somewhere for you.
If you want to downgrade, maybe it's possible just to fix your problems? WM5 is hudge step forward compared to 2003.
jakubd said:
If you want to downgrade, maybe it's possible just to fix your problems? WM5 is hudge step forward compared to 2003.
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I know, but I want to test things like battery performance, wifi connection (I have access to 2 free hotspots but can't connect....)....
And when I upgrade to WM5, I don't remove ExtROM. After the upgrade, I shrink ExtROM to 2Mb. Then I whant to downgrade to test these things and, after my tests, make the upgrade again, exactly as stated in wiki....
And I only want any Qtek 9090 ROM, preferably umbranded, in english or portuguese, doesn't matter...
Oh, yes! I've searching, but no luck, for any cab that makes my hardware keyboard works right. My 9090 is in english (with WM 5) but my keyboard is portuguese one... Then, as you can see, it doesn't works right... And changes the registry entry (as stated in other topic), from 0h 20409 to 0h 20416 (the country code for Brazil) doesn't work. After softreset the code returns to original....
Thanks for your help!
AFAIK, WM03 do have better battery life n wifi connection (n don't forget about bluetooth).
Cannot Downgrade To WM 2003
I've installed WM6.1 but need to downgrade to unlock my extrom. However, my manufacturer firmware software no longer works. Any ideas?

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