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Clean lite rom

Since nobody wants to cook a clean 'lite' official rom without all the excess baggage that all rom makers simply love to include... my only option is to choose a rom which is as close as possible to a lite official rom
which of these cooked roms is the cleanest of them all?
One which has as many nonsense official programs removed and as little other useless programs added
btw, i consider programs like batti a useless program becos i'm using o2 plus which has a nicer battery display meter and comes with a better task mgr... you guys should try it

jeRrRKKKK said:
Since nobody wants to cook a clean 'lite' official rom without all the excess baggage that all rom makers simply love to include... my only option is to choose a rom which is as close as possible to a lite official rom
which of these cooked roms is the cleanest of them all?
One which has as many nonsense official programs removed and as little other useless programs added
btw, i consider programs like batti a useless program becos i'm using o2 plus which has a nicer battery display meter and comes with a better task mgr... you guys should try it
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Hi, just tell me what you want to remove in the LITE part of my LITEHEAVY ROM, and I will go in that direction!

We need a real clean ROM, only or near windows mobile 6.1.
I don't need Internet Explorer 6, TouchFlo, Office, Album, Manila Arcsoft_MMS_WVGA, MP3Trimmer, VoiceRecorder, VideoTelephony JBlendJava_WVGA, StreamingMedia, PictureEnhancement, SocialNetworksEngine, ZIP
I want to have the oportunity to install everything from cabs or use 3rd party software

Hi,
TAKHS said:
We need a real clean ROM, only or near windows mobile 6.1.
I don't need Internet Explorer 6, TouchFlo, Office, Album, Manila Arcsoft_MMS_WVGA, MP3Trimmer, VoiceRecorder, VideoTelephony JBlendJava_WVGA, StreamingMedia, PictureEnhancement, SocialNetworksEngine, ZIP
I want to have the oportunity to install everything from cabs or use 3rd party software
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At first, i wanna thank pzucchel for his great work on his rom's!
I think the way to make clean rom's and let the user install what he needs is the totally right way, but i wouldn't go that far and remove anything. IMHO removing office or even TouchFlo will be too much - i don't know if its possible to make cabs of them to install this programs or ui later...
But, as i say above, it's the totally right way, cleaning the rom and let the user install what he wants!

I think that most of htc top bar enhancement are useless, for me. I always turn off "enlarge start menu", "htc task manager" and "LargeTitleBar".

i've saw pzucchel's rom and i think it is far too complicated for a very simple concept
all i want is a rom as takhs has said, with everything stripped off and given as a .cab package
this is similar to what christonge has done with the touch diamond...
with such a lite rom, there will no longer be any need for anymore rom builders because we can install the lite rom and 'cook' our own roms by choosing what we wish installed and what not

jeRrRKKKK said:
i've saw pzucchel's rom and i think it is far too complicated for a very simple concept
all i want is a rom as takhs has said, with everything stripped off and given as a .cab package
this is similar to what christonge has done with the touch diamond...
with such a lite rom, there will no longer be any need for anymore rom builders because we can install the lite rom and 'cook' our own roms by choosing what we wish installed and what not
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I think a super clean ROM would be great, too. I always want little apps like MP3 Trimmer and the Office apps but I NEVER use them!

TAKHS said:
We need a real clean ROM, only or near windows mobile 6.1.
I don't need Internet Explorer 6, TouchFlo, Office, Album, Manila Arcsoft_MMS_WVGA, MP3Trimmer, VoiceRecorder, VideoTelephony JBlendJava_WVGA, StreamingMedia, PictureEnhancement, SocialNetworksEngine, ZIP
I want to have the oportunity to install everything from cabs or use 3rd party software
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i better understand. If you make the ULTIMATE list of applications to remove, i can compile a ROM for you. I doubt, however, that you will be happy. Sometimes, to find the RIGHT cab (all available cabs for standard built-in applications are hacks/patches that could have little issues) is very difficult, and you'll start installing incompatible cabs. But if YOU manage it, and you make the exact and final list of applications to remove, i can make the ultra-lite version of my ROM. By the way, these are probably 10 clicks removing folders that you could also do on the preparred kitchen which i put on the thread of my ROM. BTW, i do understand your need but i am not fully sure it is the solution.
All the best!

Search better and test this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=460615&highlight=Blackdragon_860
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=461357&highlight=Blackdragon_860

Blackdragon_860 said:
Search better and test this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=460615&highlight=Blackdragon_860
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=461357&highlight=Blackdragon_860
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Absolutely correct - this is as LITE as it could. BTW, all really WHITE ROMs, at the end, will be identical and dependent only on the core build of WM.
BlackDragon, how MUCH you gain in responsiveness by removing apps like youtube? i always thought that the apps not installing services, autostart etc.etc. would not affect the performances...or not?

Is there still interest in lite ROMs?

I ask because I've been working on a superlite ROM for a few weeks, and while I'm all for the idea of having a ROM that is just a platform for doing things with the maximum of speed and the minimum of fuss, I don't know if you guys are. Judging by the ROMs being released and the ROMs that people rave about, it seems not. If it turns out that you guys are interested, I'll put more effort into developing and make it public as soon as I have something worthy of competing with the range here.
Let me know what you think.

And I should ask as well, my concept ROM is basically based around the premise that
1) Everything apart from basic phone functions and essentials should be optional, with the ROM being as close to a blank slate as is reasonable
2) Everything should be doable within as few button pushes as possible
3) The OS should barely even feature, so no elaborate and animations, just straight forward basic and fast functionality
That's the sort of stuff that, to me, would make a perfect ROM. What would you guys want in a lite ROM? How would you want something new to differ from the lite ROMs of old?

A lite rom always is good for speed and performance an maybe even battery life. Though you have to add t3d to it, since it's the only thing that keeps me away from digging to deep into the wimo user interface, wich is so frustrating at times.

Yeah i like the idea of a lite rom, but then it kind of makes you think what's the point in getting a phone such as the X1 if you only want it to only do things nokias could do 10 years ago! And then you have to think, what's bare minimum? just phone? but camera too? and internet? and the extra keyboards so people can use it easily? and the themes so it doesn't look crap? and then T3d so you can actually easily use it without a stylus?
Don't get me wrong i think it is an awesome idea, and would be helpful, i just think it would be incredibly hard to please everyone!

yes i like the idea too..because a lite rom is much faster than a normal and if you need something you can install it later. but in the "FULL" roms there are a lot of things that you wont use etc.
it would very nice if someone could make a lite rom from wm6.5 2303*(or higher) :$
and sorry for my english ... i am hungarian

I am very interested in a lite WM 6.5 rom which has no extra applications added and is just basic and simple 6.5. However i do agree with hyellow with the Touchflo 3d, i do like the TF3D interface, i would like a rom which is basic WM 6.5 with a simple TF3D 2 interface.

i feel like there's plenty of TF3D roms out now, incl. lite TF3D, so a rom without TF3D would be great! i agree with your point 2- as few button presses as possible, that's why i love spb pocket plus and ms3- very customisable
i'm using norti's lite rom now, and even though it hasn't been developed in a while, it's fast, stable and dependable, just how a lite rom should be. i've customised it perfectly to my needs, and although i flash interesting roms, i always go back to nortis lite
i've tried 6.5lite roms too, and all seem slower than 6.1 lites. 6.1 is my preference until 6.5 bugs/ speed improves
as for suggestions/ what i would like;
- is it possible to use 'extendir'? if it works, performance gains could be big?
- include graphics drivers of some sort
- enable UC
- optimise some programs (like opera with ramdisc)
- speed/ memory tweaks
the lite roms of old are very sound, so i don't think it need differ much, maybe just update it when new builds are released?
As you can probably tell i'm very keen for a new lite rom! So thanks for asking opinions, and good luck with it, I look forward to it!

I would thoroughly enjoy a lite rom, please share
which build are you currently using on your rom?
mobilevu also has a lite rom, although he hasn't updated in awhile (doesn't mean it isn't good!)

JackyBoy said:
Yeah i like the idea of a lite rom, but then it kind of makes you think what's the point in getting a phone such as the X1 if you only want it to only do things nokias could do 10 years ago! And then you have to think, what's bare minimum? just phone? but camera too? and internet? and the extra keyboards so people can use it easily? and the themes so it doesn't look crap? and then T3d so you can actually easily use it without a stylus?
Don't get me wrong i think it is an awesome idea, and would be helpful, i just think it would be incredibly hard to please everyone!
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Something I've got a severely bad habit of doing is writing a line in a post, and then editing it out with the intnetion of putting it back somehwere where it fits in better, but then forgetting to completely, and then finding myself wondering why people are contradicting what I said. I really have to stop it
Anyway, what I meant to put in my post was that my plan for the ROM is to bundle with it an installer app that installs apps in the same way that you'd maybe install components of something like MS Office or of a codec pack, where you just select the bits you want with a series of tickboxes, and the hit OK and wait ten minutes while the installer puts in everything you want. So, in its default state, the ROM would come simply with enough to do just phone, sms, and phonebook, and everything else would be an optional extra, camera and internet and the like inclusive. There'd actually be some pretty nifty advantages to doing it that way, since besides the obvious speed advantage, it'd mean that you'd be able to more-or-less customise the ROM to use whatever components you like. ie, it might all look like this:
--- Camera app
[ ] Omit
[o] Rhodium R3A cam (fastest load times)
[ ] HTC cam (slower to load, tap autofocus)
[ ] Made-up 3rd party camera app (etc)
--- Internet Browser
[ ] None
[x] Iris
[x] Opera 9.7b with onscreen keyboard
[ ] Opera 9.7b without onscreen keyboard
[x] Internet Explorer
--- Media Players
[x] None
[ ] Windows Media Player
[ ] Nitro
And so on, if that makes any sense. The other big advantage to doing it that way would be that apps wouldn't have to be bundled with the ROM, which means far less frequent ROM updates needed. Just the installer bundle app might need an update maybe once every few weeks or so, and then all's cool.
But it's all pretty much theory, curiosities, and pages of my notepad right now with only some basic rough builds knocked together, so I want to hear more thoughts from yourself and everyone else.

dhiral.v said:
I am very interested in a lite WM 6.5 rom which has no extra applications added and is just basic and simple 6.5. However i do agree with hyellow with the Touchflo 3d, i do like the TF3D interface, i would like a rom which is basic WM 6.5 with a simple TF3D 2 interface.
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Personally, I can't stand TF3D. I still don't understand why it's so popular, but then, I'm not going to argue with you guys, and I'll put the graft in and aim make it an option on the installer app for you.

I read people discusing TF3D. If you want to built a lite rom you don't wanna put TF3D in it. i have currently wm6.5. and did som ram usage tests with home screens.
if you use TF3D the ram usage at cold start is 50% (that is very high for me)
the standard wm6.5 home is arround 36% ram usage
and if you don't use any home plugin (the old way) the ram usage is around 34%
so i suggest if its gonna be a wm6.5 lite version stick with the wm6.5 home.
And use R3 software from kovsky itself not to much from rhodium. the only things i like from fhodium are the volume control and the top bar tap that shows info. the rest isn't needed. for browser take the standard opera that comes with x1 for the zoom with volume buttons it makes zooming much easiyer. and don't put any extra software let users install there own software.
things that could be removed:
1. messenger
2. Windows live
3. widgets
4. IE
Try to not remove to much base software that makes the phone unstable and some functionalitys don't work anymore.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=547502
as per the above thread it seems 6.1 is the way to go still. the screenshots i've seen of the new 6.5 builds look good with the 'ok' button at the bottom, but 6.5 seems a step back. the start menu is just horrible, and the home screen doesn't make much sense to me.
i just flashed jack's rom, it's ram usage is 26%, and 29% with mobile shell 3, which isn't bad
the installer app is an excellent idea, that would top UC

for me what i'd like in a rom is manila default (remove titanium)
with panels
thats it...
maybe latest opera 9.7b with all the links in manila fixed up ^^

Personally,
I like just basic fuctionality (usual stable base) and a choice of Touch Flo or Titanium, because at the end of the day, we can get a cab file for everything else cant we? Microsoft MyPhone for online backup/sms or PimBackup or Sprite?
Google maps, facebook, opera, clean ram, iPlayer, and even windows live, why bloat the rom with software that many people dont use?
I like windows media player, but apart from that, i like having to install only what i need to a rom. Also, specifically to the Xperia X1, why do some ROM's have finger keyboard? We have a keyboard! lol, and if the Rom is good enough, screen rotation is pretty instant.
Also, with less programs included, we can install more to the card, leaving more free space on the phone.

note sometimes if core files are removed... the .cab install file wont work
have noted some roms having issues with wlmessenger because it was removed completely...

i got 2 kind of phone.. 1 is for daily call n sms.. xperia is for multi tasking.. so, my xperia never install lite rom b4 wan..sorry..

therealreddavid said:
Personally, I can't stand TF3D. I still don't understand why it's so popular, but then, I'm not going to argue with you guys, and I'll put the graft in and aim make it an option on the installer app for you.
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I think that manila makes WM much more interesting and is a good interface to have on top of WM. I suppose when you come to releasing the rom you can release two versions, one with manila and one without manila.

@therealreddavid
no pressure(!), but how's progress on the rom going?

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And I should ask as well, my concept ROM is basically based around the premise that
1) Everything apart from basic phone functions and essentials should be optional, with the ROM being as close to a blank slate as is reasonable
2) Everything should be doable within as few button pushes as possible
3) The OS should barely even feature, so no elaborate and animations, just straight forward basic and fast functionality
That's the sort of stuff that, to me, would make a perfect ROM. What would you guys want in a lite ROM? How would you want something new to differ from the lite ROMs of old?
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Oh and put in 'extendir' and the 3d drivers/tweaks
just STRIP EVERY THING that isnt neccesarry we can find our cabs if needed

I am big fan of lite builds! I rather have base OS on which needed apps can be added. For example I don't like TF3D that much, I am bigger fan of the Titanium interface (seems lighter too).
The ideal rom for me would consist of the base which WM has + some extra stuff like dev certs, .NET3.5, Java VM. And everything else is add-able by a CAB file.
I am eager to see the ROM you are working on!

Custom ROM with NO Sense and NO Manila?

I know I'm gonna get slammed for even posting this but I'm hoping someone can make a recommendation for me. I've been using rom's from xda-developers for years on various devices and now have a Tilt 2. I guess I'm old fashioned because I prefer the WM5 style today screen (screenshot below) and don't like Sense, Manila, or even the default WM6.5 today screen. I'd love to use the Tilt2 roms but am not seeing any that don't include either of those.
Can somebody please recommend a solid and current rom that uses the WM5 style today screen?
Thanks very much...
Greg

just go into today > items and disable windows default on Titanium or disable toughflo on Manilla builds, you'll be left with the original windows 6.1 today screen which is pretty close to that of WM5.
Then you can install all of those plugin that you had there to make it look identical again.

dazkeirle said:
just go into today > items and disable windows default on Titanium or disable toughflo on Manilla builds, you'll be left with the original windows 6.1 today screen which is pretty close to that of WM5.
Then you can install all of those plugin that you had there to make it look identical again.
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I can do that but was more looking for a rom that didn't have them there to begin with because they may get loaded even though I'm not showing them on the today screen. That's a lot of overhead if they are loaded. No big deal if I'm wrong, I can certainly disable them that way.
Thanks for the advice...

mayb this will help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4699948&postcount=4

agent_47 said:
mayb this will help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4699948&postcount=4
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Are you recommending the Firestorm ROM or one version of it?

You probably can cook your own from the official ROMs. Da_G gives out ROMs without manila, but it does have titanium in it.

I'm by no means an expert, but I would guess that titanium would be more difficult to remove from an OS build, as it comes as part of WinMo. Manila/Sense comes from HTC, so it is probably easier to break off from the base OS. I'm betting that if you disable Titanium as mentioned above, you'll remove whatever overhead there is.
Also, as mentioned above, Da_G's ROM is sans manila... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=577594 ... it appears to be made specifically for the Tilt 2, judging by the title of the thread.

Hi All,
I too am looking you for this, I can assure you I've flashed almost every rom out there... Da_G is indeed a clean one but I hate the new builds with the big buttons at the bottom...
@ Agent_47, is the rom you propose has this as well I suppose...
;(

Stock 2.07.401.1 ROM trimmed to Lite

Hello everyone,
OK, here is my first go at ROM cooking.
I was looking for a very basic ROM with only must-have applications inside, so that I can later install the software I *do* use. Eventually I gave up, as all the ROMs and even the Lite'est ones had too much features / utilities. I thought I would then take the latest official ROM available (for stability purpose) and trim it down to minimum elements (for size reduction).
Herewith is what I ended up with:
http://rapidshare.com/files/3829100....25.91_Signed_Ship_trimmed_by_aziraphale_.rar
This in no way can be called a "cooked" ROM, I still know nothing about cooking, but it is a heavily trimmed stock ROM, created by the use of RhodiumKitchen_0.1, found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=560519.
Thanks Dave for this Tutorial and all the credits go to respective tools' developers.
How to install:
- unrar
- connect with ActiveSync (or loader in USB mode)
(goes without saying Your device must be Hard-SPL'd or modified any other way to allow ROM flashing - search the forum)
- execute RomUpdateUtility.exe
There are some residual unnecessary and/or invalid shortcuts in the Start Menu,
as well as some empty folders, I manually removed them by the use of EveryWAN personal edition - it's free and it's easy to use.
The OS is 6.5 b21887
I have trimmed the following from the stock ROM:
HTC applications:
- appointment editor
- clear storage (can do Hard reset in normal way)
- facebook / engine
- format SD (can't a PC do that?)
- CoPilot + install path folder (I use TomTom)
- birthday
- bookmark
- messaging client (hate it)
- jblend
- jetcet
- manila all
- opera (when You install newer version You end up with 2 )
- sliding sounds
- social networks engine
- streaming media
- tv out
- youtube
- volume control
- google maps (same as with opera)
- setting improvement
- text selection
- wifi wizard
- browser snapshot
- ie6 enhancement
- world card mobile (BCR)
- rss hub
System:
- live search
- wm widgets
- win live
- welcome center
- transcriber
- skymarket
- one note
- remote desktop
- themes except Rock and Republic
- my phone (skybox)
- livesearch
I do not expect this to become very useful to most of the forum visitors/members, but perhaps there is someone out there who have not found his/her way around to make ROMs him(her)self yet, but would like to get the very basic ROM with no extras.

Very hard to define "must have" apps. I personally prefer WM6.1 over WM6.5. Bad thing is you can't install every app\functionality by using CAB's. Otherwise you could create a ROM of around 40MB. Mine is currently ~70MB and is just great for my personal use.
Might be handy to add to the first post that your ROM is actually a WM6.5 ROM
Good luck on the cooking!

mccune said:
Very hard to define "must have" apps. I personally prefer WM6.1 over WM6.5. Bad thing is you can't install every app\functionality by using CAB's. Otherwise you could create a ROM of around 40MB. Mine is currently ~70MB and is just great for my personal use.
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You said it yourself - the "must-have" are the ones that can not be added by .cabs and will compromise phone functionality (like the HTC dialer skin will enable video calls, thus must stay)
mccune said:
Might be handy to add to the first post that your ROM is actually a WM6.5 ROM
Good luck on the cooking!
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the "2.07.401.1" implies 6.5, but added to description anyway, thanks

Good effort dude I did much the same a month or so ago with an amalgamation of Ervius Visual Kitchen (so easy) and JoshKoss kitchen. Didn't go as savage on the removal of stuff though, main objective was to get rid of the HTC Messaging
Just tried May 1st 23xxx EnergyROM with MaxManila but it cuts off MP3 playback in standby (a big no-no for me) and hung once already while texting MaxManila is nice though, and the Facebook tab is good. I usually stick to 21xxx but I must say 23xxx is growing on me with the latest build. Gonna try Cell Pro next.
I like the latest stuff but keeping up with it all is a nightmare if you're cooking. Wouldn't mind the latest 2.5 Manila packages and latest 21xxx / 23xxx SYS, also would try cooking in MaxManila, and I never managed to cook in "mark all as read" for emails properly. Need to learn how to hack on Manila. Also I forgot to cook in a task manager haha Ameba is quite nice on the latest EnergyROM. I definitely get the "why cook it in if you can get it from Marketplace / OMarket and auto update it" though, totally with you on that one instead of flashing a new ROM every week. I usually flash a new one every month or so, once I find one I like. But for the last month or so I've been running my own. It wasn't the fastest ROM ever though
It's a lot of work to make a decent ROM, and it's finding the time innit. I'm a big fan of JoshKoss but he hasn't released anything in a while
Anyway good effort dude the more the merrier I say

Also just a quick note I did get the Standby Of Death a couple of times on my cooked ROM. Very rare but still. No idea why. Don't know if it happens with the stock ROM or not.
Would like to know how to totally remove HTC messaging, sometimes when texting via Manila it would still give the conversation view which runs like a dog when you have 4,800 messages hehe
And the speakerphone sometimes screwed up - I could hear the other party but they couldn't hear me.

MadBeef said:
Also just a quick note I did get the Standby Of Death a couple of times on my cooked ROM. Very rare but still. No idea why. Don't know if it happens with the stock ROM or not.
Would like to know how to totally remove HTC messaging, sometimes when texting via Manila it would still give the conversation view which runs like a dog when you have 4,800 messages hehe
And the speakerphone sometimes screwed up - I could hear the other party but they couldn't hear me.
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Before going through the trouble of surgically removing the rudimentary software myself, I have tried a few "professionally" (read: respect, not sarcasm) cooked Energy and Leo ROMs, most of them VERY recent, but I found them SOOO packed with tweaks and features, that it would take me ages just to discover all the extras. I am more on the simplier side, don't fix something which is not broken, but I just HATE Manila (expect a lot of angry protestors here) and I am not big fan of HTC customisations either. Hence was this ROM done and I am so far rather happy with it.
There is no sign of HTC messaging which I can find, and I can install and use only necessary (for me) bits of software.
For "mark all as read" there is a really good .cab on the forum, called "safeboxextender", it works like a charm and I don't mind having to install it separately (i.e. not. cooked-in).
Having come from 1.86 ROM to 2.07 I do notice that device keeps hanging even without being put to sleep, but I can not figure out the dependency yet (I mean so far it looks rather random).

Aziraphale_l said:
Before going through the trouble of surgically removing the rudimentary software myself, I have tried a few "professionally" cooked Energy and Leo ROMs, most of them VERY recent, but I found them SOOO packed with tweaks and features, that it would take me ages just to discover all the extras.
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Yeah me too, those guys have spent probably 100's if not 1000's of hours on learning this stuff, then putting it together in a manner that pleases a lot of different people. Major kudos. I sometimes get the feeling though particularly with chefs who release almost every day, for a number of different devices, that the care and testing leaves something to be desired. Quite often more does not = better as you know
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I am more on the simplier side, don't fix something which is not broken, but I just HATE Manila (expect a lot of angry protestors here) and I am not big fan of HTC customisations either.
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Yeah fair enough mate although I am a big fan of Manila 2.5 and MaxManila is quite nice
Aziraphale_l said:
For "mark all as read" there is a really good .cab on the forum, called "safeboxextender", it works like a charm and I don't mind having to install it separately (i.e. not. cooked-in).
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Yeah I tried converting that to an EXT and cooking it in but it didn't work I know it can be done though cos a lot of ROMs have it built in. To be honest I don't really have enough time anymore to dedicate to my own ROM so I'm trying out a few others.
Aziraphale_l said:
Having come from 1.86 ROM to 2.07 I do notice that device keeps hanging even without being put to sleep, but I can not figure out the dependency yet (I mean so far it looks rather random).
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It's weird ... Mine's never hung while running but I've had the SOD two or three times. More research required, until then just stick the pen up it's arse haha

Could you release an additional version with a later build SYS (ie: 23XXX or 28XXX)? A lot of people use 6.5.5 or 6.5.3 and there are no Lite options for those later builds.

thesecondsfade said:
Could you release an additional version with a later build SYS (ie: 23XXX or 28XXX)? A lot of people use 6.5.5 or 6.5.3 and there are no Lite options for those later builds.
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i'd love to, but....
as i said i am no cook and i only did it for myself and cared enough to share with anyone who'd love to have it "as is".
also, see the respective later-release ROM threads to see how many bugs are there still and ROM-cooking gurus are eliminating them one by one and it's a long and painstaking process. i have neither time, nor ability to do that.
so i guess this is as much as i can do so far.

I've been using the ROM for a few days now and it is great. Everything works perfect. Bluetooth, tethering, wifi, data connections; it all works great with no bugs Thanks for sharring. I love a clean ROM.

jamespaulritter said:
I've been using the ROM for a few days now and it is great. Everything works perfect. Bluetooth, tethering, wifi, data connections; it all works great with no bugs Thanks for sharring. I love a clean ROM.
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very good!

Well I think I have ran the gamet of tezts and this ROM is perfect. It is fast and stable trimmed down well but still offering everything a user needs. I am on AT&T in the states and it works perfect. The only thing I cant figure out is how do I shut of the vibration when using the on screen key board? And can I add a picture mail program to my device? Would it function properly and could you recommend one?

jamespaulritter said:
...how do I shut of the vibration when using the on screen key board?
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that would be by manually editing registry key:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\TFLOSettings]
"ApVibrationOn"=dword:00000000
it is 1 by default, change it to 0 and you are all set
jamespaulritter said:
And can I add a picture mail program to my device? Would it function properly and could you recommend one?
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this here i am not sure what you mean?
whatever you add (install) SHOULD function properly, if it would have on a stock ROM,
as i have not made any changes to remaining ROM bits
edit: if you open Albums and select any picture You want, it will open in full screen, tap it, and 4 icon menu comes up, 3rd from the left with 2 arrows > tap this one and there is an option *mail*.
select the account (i would use email) and voila! is that what you were looking for?

Thanks Aziraphale_l I was talking about MMS. I want to send and receive picture mail with text messaging. Right now I cant send or recieve pictures except with email. But of course my friends do not have pda phones so we use MMS picture mail.
I was guessing this is what you said you removed. I looked for arcsoft for 6.5 and I see that HTC is now using "HTC Message" so I will go look for that. Thanks again.

Maybe this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=624375
With these settings from the same thread.
Server Name: Cingular MMS
Gateway: wireless.cingular.com
Port:80
Server address: http://mmsc.cingular.com
Connect via: Media Net
Send Limit: 300k
Wap Version: 2.0
I'll try to send an MMS tomorrow.

jamespaulritter said:
Thanks Aziraphale_l I was talking about MMS. I want to send and receive picture mail with text messaging. Right now I cant send or recieve pictures except with email. But of course my friends do not have pda phones so we use MMS picture mail.
I was guessing this is what you said you removed. I looked for arcsoft for 6.5 and I see that HTC is now using "HTC Message" so I will go look for that. Thanks again.
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HTC messaging, which I understand handles MMS functionality in our devices, has evolved into... well, something I did not like any more, so it had to go.
I personally don't use MMS, so it is no big deal for me.
Your ArcSoft link below - I see no reason why it will not work, give it a try? You can then share Your findings with the rest of us.

P.S. Battery life on this ROM is the best I have ever seen!
I have tried a dozen ROMs and I usually stick with them for a month or so I guess. They are either lite with bugs or heavy with eye candy and bugs. So far I haven't had a single issue with yours. I think many developers get in to much of a hurry. I appreciate the great job you did on this.
I notice today that to get from one task to another, one program to another or one event to another I use fewer steps because everything is simple and functional. Thanks again.

I cooked in Arcsoft_MMS_5_2_8_45 on mine, after pulling out HTC Messaging, if I remember rightly it worked but it's very rare I use MMS anyway. If you install it afterwards, re-run carrier provisioning (or whatever it's called ... where it sets up your network settings automatically) and it should configure Arcsoft for ya.
Right now I'm running EnergyROM 23xxx from 1st of May but battery is suffering and it crashes a bit, not mega fast either. It is a nice flashy ROM tho I used to hate 23xxx and much prefer 21xxx but lately I'm kinda undecided.

Thanks for the haptic feedback registry edit; works great.

Also with regard to cooking in SafeInboxExtender look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=677105

[ROM][WWE][15.8.2010] Freedom ROM series v2 [23676 | 2016 Manila]

Why is this rom different than anyother rom.
The reason is *Freedom*.
Yes, a rom which lets you decide what you want.
*** Freedom Is Yours ***
Base OS: W6.5 - Titanium & Manila
Manila: Manila 2.5.2016_cfc
Sys : 23676
Packages: Hybrid Leo & Rhodium
Pagepool: 20 mb
Tweaks: Manila flip clock fix and Lock screen fix (The first time you lock the screen you will notice some lag, but after that every time it will be instant.)
Link: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=8LMCIA6O
1. Hard reset after flashing
2. Align screen, install softwares, restore contacts and data (if any)
3. Soft reset
I would appreciate, if you leave a feedback. I looking forward to suggestions that could make the rom experience better.
Flash the rom on your own risk. I shall not be held responsible for any damage it may cause to your phone.
*** W6.5 & Manila 2.5 are not a supported for our device. So have some patience when operating them. ***

Changelog:
v2
Updates sys to 23676
Updated manila sense to 2_5_20161332_0_CFC
Updated HTCMessaging Client to 1_8_20181630 (Latest from 2018 Sense - Thanks Pyrorob )
Updated HTC Message to v1.10.281.0
Updates keyboard Ez Input to v2.1.20142921.00
Updated You Tube to v2.6.20161226.00
Updated Audio Booster to v2.5.20153030.01
Updated Full Screen Player to v1.8.20161429.00
Added MS office 2010
Added Adobe PDF v2.5.1.0.404840.03
other packages updated.
v1.2-23568 Link: http://rapidshare.com/files/396098588/Freedom_v1.2-23568.rar
Updates sys to 23568
Added Titanium
Fixed systimezone... error
v1.2
sys 23563
Manila_Core_2_5_20121225_0_CFC
Rhodium 2.07
Fixed setting improvement error
Fixed home button
Fixed dialer

F.A.Q
1.Rom does not have any theme?
Choose the one you like. I recommend Condor GT black. Search on the forum you will get the link
2.Rom does not have any performance drivers?
Choose the one that you feel works best for you.
I highly recommend installing one of the drivers available from here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442712
I suggest neo_2007_3, but the roms works well with other drivers as well.
GFX boost is also great but it also drains battery a lot faster.
3.It does not have browser apart from IE?
You choose, which browser you want to use. Opera is highly recommended, but you can also go with sky fire, bolt, etc.
4. Some useful softwares.
Add Call history tab to manila
Touch InCall tweak
BsB Tweaks
HD Tweak
Opera
Skyfire
Side2Play-Music player
Total Commander
Change screen(New version)
HTC eReader
B&N eReader
PIM Backup
Nodata
G-Alarm
SmartLock - Automatic Screen Lock
LUMOS - Complete HTC Auto-Backlight replacement
NaviComputer – Offline GPS Mapping Software
Other

Thanks to:
EpiphanyNL
Balaji (For sharing the kitchen)
koky72
All the beta testers who came forward here
entire xda-community
My Story:
Well i loved the chef who created great roms, but i always felt that, i am better off without all the crap is loaded on it.
I wished there was a way, I could just install stuff that I want. Thats when I decided, i need to built my own rom.
Journey so far has not been that good, hundreds of flashes and bugs still continue.
Some chefs were helpful, and some chefs behavior was so bad, made me feel like really, its just a damn rom you build, you are not god.
Also these chef forget, that what they are, is because of us, who follow them and praise them like addicts.
But not the entire community is bad. xda for me stands for sharing, growing and enjoying. And I wish community grows always.

Data Services in settings tab doesn't work
A lot of the other settings don't work either, in ms office there's no word or excel just onenote

Sounds like a good idea - there's always so much stuff on cooked roms I never use.
I have downloaded and will give this a go tomorrow - thansk for sharing.

cxkx said:
Data Services in settings tab doesn't work
A lot of the other settings don't work either, in ms office there's no word or excel just onenote
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This is a strip out rom.
You need to install office and other softwares by urself.
I will try to compile a list and post it here, but in the meanwhile please use search button.
I am looking to resolve the error asap, however, other things wok on the rom.
as an alternative i suggest using,
by click start--> settings...
for anything you need to change.
data services = settings--> connections -->account manager.
click on top bar then under notification window click battery icon for changing display and screen settings...

Dialer
I cant make a call
Try to dial and nothing happen
I cant figure out is it the ROM or something i did
I will see, and update.
Otherwise fast, smooth and best memory management
Thanks
I made hard reset and dialer working perfectly
I am downloading my stuff one by one to find out what cause this problem
I am so sorry, its great rom

i am using the rom on my phone and the dialer works perfectly.
i just had some issues when cookie monster was installed, the dialer just lagged.
i unistalled cookie monster and will test it.

your rom is fast and good but the home button is not working . when you daill the talk ,end call and the keypad are big
if you can make 21903 build it will be good
thanks

home button is not working? can you give more details coz i am using the rom and it is working for me.
regarding dialer being big, i tried using different dialers in my beta, but, it used to lag after call is dc. this is the best dialer i can use.
i will certainly work on other 21**, 23** versions, once i get more time.

Found the reason
Dear shah1237:
Dialer is perfect till i made contact restore, whatever the Prog (PIM, Sprite and SPB) then dialer went crazy:
-no call history
-network resetting
Please give solution that your ROM is very good and improved amazingly
Thanks
Update: the same happen even without restoring contacts, once new contact saved and dialed, the problem there
I think its due to cooked dialer.

new rom uploaded...

shah1237 said:
new rom uploaded...
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Thank you, I'll test it in weekend!

very good job thank u.i put the graphics but i dont see any change,the same as before i install it.i would see any different somewhere or no?
but it is very good job

thank you very much.
i hope i succeeded in delivery a rom that users like me want.
i really have not done any benchmarks so cannot provide support for installing drivers.however i do feel, the drivers increase the overall performance, even though impact is not visible to the naked eye.And CFC manila is certainly fast, so i don't knw how much more responsive the UI can be.

shah1237 said:
thank you very much.
i hope i succeeded in delivery a rom that users like me want.
i really have not done any benchmarks so cannot provide support for installing drivers.however i do feel, the drivers increase the overall performance, even though impact is not visible to the naked eye.And CFC manila is certainly fast, so i don't knw how much more responsive the UI can be.
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u realy make good job the rom is very fast but how i will fix my mail acount?

mgeo81 said:
u realy make good job the rom is very fast but how i will fix my mail acount?
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mail account? can you give more details.

shah1237 said:
mail account? can you give more details.
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its ok i fix it.
but i want to tell u that.i put some pictures from people to my contact but when i call them the picture didnt appear.why?
is it difficult for u to make a list of some usefull programs expept from that that u have on the front page.
beacause iam new in the glub and it would it much easier for all us...
the newbies.....
thanks again!!great job

mgeo81 said:
its ok i fix it.
but i want to tell u that.i put some pictures from people to my contact but when i call them the picture didnt appear.why?
is it difficult for u to make a list of some usefull programs expept from that that u have on the front page.
beacause iam new in the glub and it would it much easier for all us...
the newbies.....
thanks again!!great job
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well the list you see is ideally the most common programs on the forum.
i will continue to add more links.
but i expect users to search the xda for additional softwares.