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Guys, I read this ROM has Skype built-in, is this correct? I am curious if you guys have problems with WIFI & Skype as described here, and if this ROM/Radio has improved it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=15707&highlight=skype
I have problems exactly as described in the link above, After a few seconds into the call, I would be disconnected from Skype. My Internet also “dies” (it still appears to be connected, but nothing will work)… only way to fix is to soft-reset.
This is a really bad drawback b/c a huge reason for getting the Blue Angel was to use VOIP via Skype! :x
btw, What version of Skype is included, and if a new version of Skype PPC is released, how would we go about upgrading it, since it is in the ROM?
Kai920 said:
Guys, I read this ROM has Skype built-in, is this correct? I am curious if you guys have problems with WIFI & Skype as described here, and if this ROM/Radio has improved it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=15707&highlight=skype
I have problems exactly as described in the link above, After a few seconds into the call, I would be disconnected from Skype. My Internet also “dies” (it still appears to be connected, but nothing will work)… only way to fix is to soft-reset.
This is a really bad drawback b/c a huge reason for getting the Blue Angel was to use VOIP via Skype! :x
btw, What version of Skype is included, and if a new version of Skype PPC is released, how would we go about upgrading it, since it is in the ROM?
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The installer for Skype is in ROM, not the actual program. The actual program is in ram, just as if you downloaded it. Version is 1.1.0.7 and yes that is a 7.
Seems to work OK for me, over Wi-Fi I have used it over 12 hours at a time.
THANK you dah54 ... almost had 100 views with no replies. :shock:
That is very useful information - I don't see 1.1.0.7 on Skype's webpage http://skype.com/products/skype/pocketpc/ . Wonder what has changed since 1.1.0.6?
It's actually only in the EXTENDED ROM. Which means it is indeed a seperate program, with a cab installer.
You can grab it from the FTP, here:
ftp://xda:[email protected]_Operator/Imate/Default_SkypeForPocketPC.CAB
Thanks TheLastOne -- I wandered onto the 1.1.0.7 link earlier and thought maybe a simple Skype upgrade would solve my problems, but no dice.
Went full out and did the 1.40 upgrade with 1.12 radio, and have not had any disconnects yet! Will test it out more later tonight.
Problems fixed.
I can hardly believe it - Skype is working absolutely perfectly with this new ROM and Radio!
No more disconnects with Wi-fi and sound quality is a definite improvement (according to others). I will soon be getting some SkypeOut credits 8)
If anyone is on the pre-1.40 ROMs and having Skype issues, I strongly recommend you to give the upgrade a try. Heck, even those with wifi issues should try it... I know you're out there! -- I've seen quite a few of you with wifi issues while searching through the forums.
I recently had the chance to play with the Nokia E61i and the built in VOIP client is brilliant. It allows you to use internal speaker, speaker phone and bluetooth with VOIP calls.
I had a Pocket PC before HTC Titan, but unfortunately had to sell it because I am traveling a lot now. I will primarly use my device in South America where the WCDMA band is different. I am thinking about getting the Nokia E90 or the HTC Kaiser, but must make sure the Kaiser will have built in VOIP client. Can someone confirm? Thanks
Even knowing there are many VOIP applications for Windows Mobile, I tried many with the HTC Titan and only ONE worked ok, but the problem was it only worked trough the speaker phone which was very annoying and not convenient.
I understand voip should be included in WM6.
IE : the integrated phone application can do voip.
Tried it with WM6 and voipbuster on my HTC Wizard and it's working although the sound is not so good sometimes because of the Wizard weak processor (I think).
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I had a Pocket PC before HTC Titan, but unfortunately had to sell it because I am traveling a lot now. I will primarly use my device in South America where the WCDMA band is different. I am thinking about getting the Nokia E90 or the HTC Kaiser, but must make sure the Kaiser will have built in VOIP client. Can someone confirm? Thanks
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I have already asked that question some time ago - see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=322377 - and it turned out there is no VoIP support in Kaiser by default. I haven't seen any traces of VoIP in Kaiser I've played with two days ago. And finally, take a look into official Kaiser product sheets - they don't mention VoIP at all, while it's a good feature to shout about.
So basically, there is no VoIP support in Kaiser. However, installing it as an add-on from cab files might have a chance to work, but someone with real Kaiser with hands would need to test it and let us know.
That is really sad. I guess I am going to have to go with the Nokia E90 until a Windows Mobile device has a built in VOIP client.
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That is really sad. I guess I am going to have to go with the Nokia E90 until a Windows Mobile device has a built in VOIP client.
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VOIP is easily installed by YOU.
There's no reason to not get a kaiser because it doesn't have this if you are a member of these forums.
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VOIP is easily installed by YOU.
There's no reason to not get a kaiser because it doesn't have this if you are a member of these forums.
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Amen !
I installed the voip cab from this forum, that I was using on my tytn, and it works fine on the kaiser. Hope this helps.
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I installed the voip cab from this forum, that I was using on my tytn, and it works fine on the kaiser. Hope this helps.
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Well, this is great news! I hope I could confirm it as soon as my Kaiser come - I couldn't resist and pre-ordered one in Handtec.co.uk. ))
Installed the .cab as well and works like a charm.
I installed the voip cab from this forum, that I was using on my tytn, and it works fine on the kaiser. Hope this helps.
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I have Kaiser now, I've installed VOIP Drivers.cab and MajikVOIP.cab. Installs all components correctly, logs into SIP account, makes a call, but... sound comes out of external speaker, instead of internal earpiece!
Did you manage to make it work properly and if yes - which cabs exactly did you install? Thanks.
im keen to find out also! I thought that you could only access voip using cooked roms.
There are a number of WM5 VoIP endpoints available.... however I'm not entirely sure about WM6 yet. I work in VoIP, and its on my list of things the check now that i have my shiny new TyTN II sat infront of me!
I'll keep you all updated with my findings.
Mind you.. i must check tmobiles policy on VoIP, I had a sneaky feeling they are blocking necessary ports...
managing your voip client?
for those with Voip enabled and working, can you tell me how the voip client determines which connection to use, ie wifi or using the data plan?
I have installed Fring and it works well. Is this different than the other voip programs discussed above?
from what i understand, Fring is a stand alone app, where as the voip i am looking at is fully integrated into the phone and uses the standard dialer, hence my previous question about how the Voip determines which connection to use? And if that is automatic? ie. if wifi is available will it just connect via wifi and if wifi isnt available will it then revert automatically to using the data plan to make the voip call.
Not that this helps with the Kaiser, but according to HP, the new iPaq BM series should have the VoIP client enabled by default; in fact, as far as I'm aware, it's the only device announced with it enabled.
Hi,
I'm new to the PDA and WM phone world, and i have a quick question. If there was a voip program of sorts for a phone like this, would that mean you could just pay for a data plan and not have to pay for a voice plan from a company like AT&T? And then u could still text message, e-mail, internet and the sorts, but also be able to make calls through your program?
Hi
Most providers (certainly here in the UK) flag data used for Messenging and/or VoIP so they are charge at a higher rate or excluded from your inclusive allowance so you pay extra or not blocked completely.
VoIP on a mobile device is only really of benefit when you are in range of a wireless connection.
Regards
Phil
Hey, thanks for the reply. Does anyone know if AT&T restrict data like he said? That's gonna be the main service i will be using, and want to know if they do or not.
I want to install Skype, is there a particular version i should go for or can i use any of the WM phones listed?
skype problem..
for some reason i can't get skype to work on my kaiser,when i try to log in,it don't recognize my user name or password,yet its the same info i use to sign in on my laptop.
Strange that, I took a chance and just installed it and it worked 1st time.
worked for me from the first time as well
I selected HTC P4350 and it worked first time on my Kaiser....
Rich
This is the answer I received from SKYPE support re the TyTn II - so are the happy users lucky or do the Skype guys know nothing???
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This device has CPU with ARM v4 instruction set. Unfortunately it is incompatible with Skype for Mobile 2.2 voice calling.
Only the chat function is working on that device with Skype for Mobile 2.2 at the moment.
You can read in more detail about that problem from http://support.skype.com/index.php?_a=knowledgebase&_j=questiondetails&_i=980
Our development team is working hard to make Skype for Mobile compatible with more and more devices but no release date is currently available.
Please keep an eye on newer Skype for Mobile versions at our web page: http://skype.com/intl/en/download/skype/mobile/
We apologise for the inconvenience, but for the moment only chat functionality is supported
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Had you tried 2.1 version?
I haven't tried anything - about to buy my TyTn II - just point of information to know whetner it works or not - makes a difference...
Think am lucky so far, I've made 3 calles and it worked fine apart from from usual echo.
I must be lucky too - works great - and even works very well with stereo bluetooth headset.....
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djmaven said:
This is the answer I received from SKYPE support re the TyTn II - so are the happy users lucky or do the Skype guys know nothing???
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This device has CPU with ARM v4 instruction set. Unfortunately it is incompatible with Skype for Mobile 2.2 voice calling.
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What is Skype smoking? A cursory scan of anything named TyTN? The Kaiser has a ARM v6 instruction set. The Hermes supported voice chat too, especially in the 2.2 beta, but not the final gold.
Skype REALLY doesn't want to support any of the PDA phones. Hmm.
When it does work, does it support voice over Bluetooth headset, or does it still only support voice over speakerphone and wired headset?
From what I understand, the lastest verison of skype doesnt work on both Tytn and tytn 2 because of there new voice decoder. The older one works fine. But I dont know which version of skype it goes back to. Look in the Tytn forum and there are heaps of info on which one works and which doesnt and Im guess its the same for the tytn 2.
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From what I understand, the lastest verison of skype doesnt work on both Tytn and tytn 2 because of there new voice decoder. The older one works fine. But I dont know which version of skype it goes back to. Look in the Tytn forum and there are heaps of info on which one works and which doesnt and Im guess its the same for the tytn 2.
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As rakh1 says you can select HTC P4350. So this indicates two things
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TyTn 2 does not have to use the older version Skype 2.2 Beta or older
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When Skype were asked about this they just heard the TyTn part and immediately launched their standard line - Skype chat is not compatible etc. Perhaps if they had been asked about the Kaiser or the P4350 then the answer would have been correct! (as suggested by NuShrike above)
Mike
i just downloaded skype 2.2 and it works like a champ on my kaiser. as others said just pick the p4350 and it will run np.
yep, volume still seems to come out of the rear speaker though, also, I had inital error when installing via the PC through activesync, but once copying the cab over, it installed and runs smoothly.
I wonder if the Skype crowd ever miss the Joost fellas
you guys who are using Skype successfully, couple of questions:
1) are you using internet or WIFI connection?
2) Which version of Skype?
Thanks!
Frankyg said:
you guys who are using Skype successfully, couple of questions:
1) are you using internet or WIFI connection?
2) Which version of Skype?
Thanks!
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1. Either.
2. The latest PPC build downloadable from the SKype site.
Skype phone calls seemed to work ok for me - perhaps a little crackle on the other side.
Does anyone know why skype only works through the speakers? Is this an issue with WM6 in general?
Did anyone try to use a SIP client on the Diamond?
Go and give a try Fring. Website: www.fring.com
Go to www.fring.com and give a try. It works for me
Hi,
Unlike any of the voip/sip apps ive tried on the diamond the only one working correctly, including usage of the internal speaker instead of the external one where the whole world can listen in on your conversation, ageet has managed to create a proper voip app.
http://www.ageet.com/us/products-agephone-mobile.htm
Enjoy
thankssss still looking for a good solution, fring and sjphone dont work properly on my diamond. Too many drop outs, bad sound quality and indeed external speaker.
Will report back here, hav to hurry the wintersport holiday is coming and need a good softphone to call for free
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=443972
nickokio said:
thankssss still looking for a good solution, fring and sjphone dont work properly on my diamond. Too many drop outs, bad sound quality and indeed external speaker.
Will report back here, hav to hurry the wintersport holiday is coming and need a good softphone to call for free
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I just tried it...it seems to work allrite. But still external speaker on a touch diamond with the latest version (2.7)
Another problem with voipbuster, when other side picks up the phone connection drops out...
So not worth the money yet
nickokio said:
thankssss still looking for a good solution, fring and sjphone dont work properly on my diamond. Too many drop outs, bad sound quality and indeed external speaker.
Will report back here, hav to hurry the wintersport holiday is coming and need a good softphone to call for free
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I agree, poor quality using Fring, and it stopped my browsers working over NextG...
I found using this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=443972) works the best and the most simple, but think there must be a problem with the dial plan as I can't call mobiles.
Do be careful when installing wm6voip.cab.
In most cases it will break GPS functionality, which will require a hard reset.
I remember there is a thread on getting this to work anyway without breaking GPS, if you do incist on using wm6voip.cab ( i think its crap ).
Go with ageet. its such a nice app works great, uses internal speaker. really worth the money, especially to reward a company to have finally fixed the speaker issues, something other companies failed to do for... what is it.. years now? on windows mobile platforms.
today i installed the beta version of sjphone for wm5...
Seems to work very good so far. Dislike agephone as well...not worth a single penny
Fring sucks. It tunnels everything via their server in England.
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I agree, poor quality using Fring, and it stopped my browsers working over NextG...
I found using this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=443972) works the best and the most simple, but think there must be a problem with the dial plan as I can't call mobiles.
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Yeah the default dialplan is American. You need to edit ipdialplan.xml. I can give you mine if you want, will work fine if your SIP provider doesn't need any special pre-processing. I use Internode's nodephone service over nextg on my jasjam.. saves me a lot of money.
I'd like to hear if wm6voip.cap works well on the Diamond. I'm reluctant to buy any phone without VoIP support these days.
Tremere said:
Yeah the default dialplan is American. You need to edit ipdialplan.xml. I can give you mine if you want, will work fine if your SIP provider doesn't need any special pre-processing. I use Internode's nodephone service over nextg on my jasjam.. saves me a lot of money.
I'd like to hear if wm6voip.cap works well on the Diamond. I'm reluctant to buy any phone without VoIP support these days.
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Ahh, I thought that might be the case... Yeah, I'm using Nodephone too!
I did open up the dial plan in XML Notepad to check it out and it looked American, but was needing some direction as to what would need changing...
To have your would be great if you don't mind?
I've not really tested the VoIP service on my Diamond that much yet, but it is forcing the VoIP to go handsfree which is annoying! But I belive there may be a fix for that...
So enlighten us with your philosophy on why it would not be worth a single penny.
nickokio said:
today i installed the beta version of sjphone for wm5...
Seems to work very good so far. Dislike agephone as well...not worth a single penny
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well the best reason:
Its not any better than sjphone beta so not worth anything...
I deinstalled it because off:
- Poor sound quality
- Random disconnects
- Disconnects when other side picked up the phone
- And the internal speaker is not working for the diamond
Tested with voipbuster
http://www.voipbuster.com/nl/smart_dialing.html
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http://www.voipbuster.com/nl/smart_dialing.html
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w000t u rule
All the reasons you name are in my opinion not related to AgePhone at all but to your voipproviders and/or bandwith. Also the application requires reading the documentation, setting up proper codecs, and also enabling a feature that WILL enable the internal speaker on your diamond. (Speaker Switching Option) This has been tested and working quite fine.
nickokio said:
well the best reason:
Its not any better than sjphone beta so not worth anything...
I deinstalled it because off:
- Poor sound quality
- Random disconnects
- Disconnects when other side picked up the phone
- And the internal speaker is not working for the diamond
Tested with voipbuster
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This is not true client initiated sip/voip, but a small client that will initiate a 2 legged call back system where your phone will dial a local number. which means you will still be billed for local phone calls. so this is only usefull for long distance calls abroad.
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All the reasons you name are in my opinion not related to AgePhone at all but to your voipproviders and/or bandwith. Also the application requires reading the documentation, setting up proper codecs, and also enabling a feature that WILL enable the internal speaker on your diamond. (Speaker Switching Option) This has been tested and working quite fine.
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Well for my configuration and voipbuster with good internet connection and wifi sjphone beta performs better than agephone
SKyLiNe1980 said:
This is not true client initiated sip/voip, but a small client that will initiate a 2 legged call back system where your phone will dial a local number. which means you will still be billed for local phone calls. so this is only usefull for long distance calls abroad.
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True thats too bad, but can anyways be usefull sometimes
And the sms option should work in abroad countries
Here my catch of the day:
Taken from an other forum (credits goes to lubo777):
http://www.minitelecom.org/downloads/images/voip/WM6VoIPFull.cab
HowTo: http://forum.ppcwarez.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=61730
Worked for me...
Yeah I think I've seen that one before & tried to use it...
Have you tried your GPS since you've installed that? Because I think that one breaks the GPS (at least on the Fuze units) .. and if it IS on a Fuze - is it actually working properly over 3G?
I have another version that I got to work without breaking the GPS - but never been able to get it to work over 3G on WM 6.x ....
Hey - would I recommend it if not ?!?
Sure I did - as I said working like a charm...
I have a TouchPro with the German V3 23001 Pro image (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=529794) and as VoIP provider: Sipgate.de. Furthermore I checked that GPS is still working with GoogleMaps and sTevesTeve after install and setup and it was working as before.
With all other SIP setups I tried before, I had the same issue as you mentioned - they all rendered my GPS worthless -
BUT NOT THIS ONE!
Peace!
i gave up and use portsip as you can set the audio output http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=508715
Hmmm I also wonder what MrGAN is talking about... for two handsets (WM6.5) voip is not working properly!!!
Its so frustrating with WM6, Microsoft hasn´t any clue about how VOIP has to work on handsets.
Why don´t they learn from NOKIA??? My old E60 is still working beautiful on VOIP. Ringing on the external speaker, voice on the internal speaker. Just no difference between VOIP and GSM.
Microsoft, why is it so hard for you to understand???