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TMC for Athena

Hi there,
Has anyone made a TMC device working on the Athena?
I tried some version of the GNS FM9 adpaters but nothing worked.
Any ideas?
Thanks in advance for your help!
Have a good start into 2008.
greetz,
DAx

I agree - this would be very useful. I have iGo on my Ameo and it is brilliant (cant wait for iGo 8 or MioMap 2008 for the 3d visuals and road names) but it would be even better if I could get warned of upcoming hold ups on the major roads!

adamelphick said:
I agree - this would be very useful. I have iGo on my Ameo and it is brilliant (cant wait for iGo 8 or MioMap 2008 for the 3d visuals and road names) but it would be even better if I could get warned of upcoming hold ups on the major roads!
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Hi,
just a question from my side:
I'm currently using igo with my Ameo and I have to wait and wait and wait and wait for the first GPS fix. It takes normaly between 5 and 15 Minutes until the first fix, even if I use the Quick-GPS Tool that comes with the Ameo. After that, everything works fine. How long does it take with your device and igo?
If I use my GNS GPS receiver (http://www.gns-gmbh.com/de/30_5843.php) I need only a few seconds until the first fix. And it supports TMC!!! I've searched a lot around to find another / cheaper solution to use TMC with the integrated GPS receiver, but I didn't find a working solution, so i decided to buy the GNS GPS receiver....
Regards
Andreas

AndreasF said:
Hi,
just a question from my side:
I'm currently using igo with my Ameo and I have to wait and wait and wait and wait for the first GPS fix. It takes normaly between 5 and 15 Minutes until the first fix, even if I use the Quick-GPS Tool that comes with the Ameo. After that, everything works fine. How long does it take with your device and igo?
If I use my GNS GPS receiver (http://www.gns-gmbh.com/de/30_5843.php) I need only a few seconds until the first fix. And it supports TMC!!! I've searched a lot around to find another / cheaper solution to use TMC with the integrated GPS receiver, but I didn't find a working solution, so i decided to buy the GNS GPS receiver....
Regards
Andreas
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Hi Andreas,
hmm... thank for the link. That would be really the last chance to get TMC working for the ameo.
FYI, I use Mobile Navigator 6 and it fixes the gps signal really quick. I also use the Quick GPS and when I start MN6 the GPS signal fixes within 1 minute.
Greetz,
DAx

AndreasF said:
Hi,
just a question from my side:
I'm currently using igo with my Ameo and I have to wait and wait and wait and wait for the first GPS fix. It takes normaly between 5 and 15 Minutes until the first fix, even if I use the Quick-GPS Tool that comes with the Ameo. After that, everything works fine. How long does it take with your device and igo?
If I use my GNS GPS receiver (http://www.gns-gmbh.com/de/30_5843.php) I need only a few seconds until the first fix. And it supports TMC!!! I've searched a lot around to find another / cheaper solution to use TMC with the integrated GPS receiver, but I didn't find a working solution, so i decided to buy the GNS GPS receiver....
Regards
Andreas
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Hi Andreas,
can you confirm that the GNS 5843 TMC work on the X7500 with Igo.
Thanks
Gigino

gigino said:
Hi Andreas,
can you confirm that the GNS 5843 TMC work on the X7500 with Igo.
Thanks
Gigino
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Yes i.e. it works on my T-Mobile (Germany) Ameo with igo,
Cheers
Andreas

AndreasF said:
Yes i.e. it works on my T-Mobile (Germany) Ameo with igo,
Cheers
Andreas
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Hey Andreas,
sorry to trouble you again but we are using the igo plus and the same gps as you the GNS 5843 but we can get the gps to work but not the TMC everytime we try to connect the TMC the pda just frezzes like the port has a conflict.
We have only been trying this in landscape mode can you tell me in which mode you are using the igo Portrait or Landscape.
Please can you help me in get this to work because I really like the Igo plus more the any anothe navigators.
Thanks
Gigino

Hi Gigino,
hmmmm, strange, for me it works. And yes, I'm using the landscape modus.
Sounds for me, that Igo uses the internal GPS receiver an tries to find a TMC connection on this internal GPS receiver.
Some Ideas from my side:
If you connect the GNS receiver via bluetooth, which serial port do you use? I've configured the bluetooth settings and then the COM-connections (I hope this are the right terms, I'm using a german ROM) with COM1 and secure connection. For instance Mobile Navigator 6 expects the TMC Signal only on COM1 and doesn't accept other ports.
The internal GPS Receiver is connected to Com4 on my system: GPS Settings -> Programms: Com4 and ->Hardware: None, 4800 Baud and -> Access: Automatic.
In a few words: internal GPS receiver on COM4, external GPS Receiver via bluetooth connected to COM1.
Do you have / use the test software from GNS to test, if youre GPS receiver is ok? You can download it on their page.
Last hint: Sometimes (Mobile Navigator6: every time!) you have to start the Navigator software twice to get a connection to the GNS 5843. It's a known bug for this receiver
Hope all this helps, otherwise contact me again
Regards Andreas

AndreasF said:
Hi Gigino,
hmmmm, strange, for me it works. And yes, I'm using the landscape modus.
Sounds for me, that Igo uses the internal GPS receiver an tries to find a TMC connection on this internal GPS receiver.
Some Ideas from my side:
If you connect the GNS receiver via bluetooth, which serial port do you use? I've configured the bluetooth settings and then the COM-connections (I hope this are the right terms, I'm using a german ROM) with COM1 and secure connection. For instance Mobile Navigator 6 expects the TMC Signal only on COM1 and doesn't accept other ports.
The internal GPS Receiver is connected to Com4 on my system: GPS Settings -> Programms: Com4 and ->Hardware: None, 4800 Baud and -> Access: Automatic.
In a few words: internal GPS receiver on COM4, external GPS Receiver via bluetooth connected to COM1.
Do you have / use the test software from GNS to test, if youre GPS receiver is ok? You can download it on their page.
Last hint: Sometimes (Mobile Navigator6: every time!) you have to start the Navigator software twice to get a connection to the GNS 5843. It's a known bug for this receiver
Hope all this helps, otherwise contact me again
Regards Andreas
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Hey Andreas,
thanks for your help I well try again over this weekend.
They is another problem that I have and I've tryed everything but cannot resolve it.
I use the Igo Plus in landscape mode when I'm using the map and I get a reminder or a call the screen revertes to portrait mode and after accept the call or dismissing the reminder all the buttons in the Igo software goes all funny.
Do you have the same problem or have you find a way to correct this problem.
Thanks
Gigino

Ah I have this problem if the keyboard is attached but not if it isnt. What happens is that for some wierd reason the screen gets INVERTED! If you imagine where the button should be if it were upside down you can click it! Most odd!

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Ah I have this problem if the keyboard is attached but not if it isnt. What happens is that for some wierd reason the screen gets INVERTED! If you imagine where the button should be if it were upside down you can click it! Most odd!
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Hi,
I can confirm this also, the screen is inverted meens, that it looks ok, but you you have to touch it in an inverted way. I.e. the button is on the left upper corner of the screen, but you to click in the right lower area. Thats really strange. I've have the feeling, that this happens very often, if you use the Map view instead of the cockpit view.
@ gigino: I use the ameo with a brodit mount without the keyboard, so I don't have this problem.
In my last message is a little mistake, you have to switch OFF (and not ON) the automatic access in the GPS settings.
Regards
Andreas

Using Destinator or any other GPS app with TMC

Does anybody use Destinator or TT with TMC in US? I'm wondering if TMC is even possible on Kaiser.. not sure how the traffic updates work.

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Does anybody use Destinator or TT with TMC in US? I'm wondering if TMC is even possible on Kaiser.. not sure how the traffic updates work.
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You would need some form of addon TMC FM receiver similar to the Garmin inline version for its dedicated GPS units.
Only other way of receiving TMC reports is via your data connection (3G,GPRS) as in Gamin XT.

So there's software that allows to emulated a hardware TMC thingy and gets traffic info from the web?
Let me clarify my question... I have iGo 2006 (gps software), and it's trying to get TMC updates from hardware (asking for a COM port). I do have unlimited data.. so I need something that will grab traffic info from the web and give it to iGo.

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So there's software that allows to emulated a hardware TMC thingy and gets traffic info from the web?
Let me clarify my question... I have iGo 2006 (gps software), and it's trying to get TMC updates from hardware (asking for a COM port). I do have unlimited data.. so I need something that will grab traffic info from the web and give it to iGo.
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Yeah, Garmin pulls it from the Garmin webserver.
Hmmm, its asking for a COM port? I wonder if iGo either sell an addon receiver or have plans to in the future. Unless this is a generic package designed for Pocket PC's and its a function that is unavailable on Windows Mobile.

TMC under IGO 8 for Htc Diamond ??

Hi everyone,
Does anyone tried to use TMC under Igo 8 ? My diamond says it can't find the TMC hardware. I tried to play FM Radios and it works.
Anyone can help ?
Thanks by advance

Very good question.
I had the same issue myself, yesterday...
HastaSSSS

Diamond doesnt have TMC does it?

someone1234 said:
Diamond doesnt have TMC does it?
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Nope. Unfortunately, it doesn't. Oh, well...

Oh, i thought it had throught the FM Radio receiver
Does anyone know a bluetooth TMC receiver for use with igo 8 and htc diamond ?

rrichie said:
Oh, i thought it had throught the FM Radio receiver
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It has an FM receiver with RDS decoder but not the TMC hardware. I have tried to but the radio on and then starting IGO and searching for the TMC receiver but it doesn't find one. So no possibility for it.

Thanks marco 899.
Does you have any suggestion about a good bluetooth TMC receiver i could use with igo 8 and htc diamond ?

Bah! That seems a bit stupid. If its got a GPS unit and an FM radio they might as well include the TMC bit as well. Or they could have at least used a GPS chipset that includes the TMC stuff.

leaskovski said:
Bah! That seems a bit stupid. If its got a GPS unit and an FM radio they might as well include the TMC bit as well. Or they could have at least used a GPS chipset that includes the TMC stuff.
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It's all about licenses. TMC needs a license from GNS. That's why leadtek stopped producing gps receivers with builtin TMC.

I only put my original head phone on usb port and I found a TMC with diamond via IGO's automatic finder. It's fine but the reception of TMC's chanels doesnt work. I think that it is possible to do a bridge between FM radios ...

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It has an FM receiver with RDS decoder but not the TMC hardware. I have tried to but the radio on and then starting IGO and searching for the TMC receiver but it doesn't find one. So no possibility for it.
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There is no need for TMC Hardware. TMC is done by some special RDS-Messages. Diamond is able to receive RDS 'cause it will show up the name of current station. So it will receive RDS-TMC, too.
You only need a software that will get the tmc messages and decode them to, lets say, opentmc and that's all.

are there some examples for an openTMC software?

If it turns out that waiting for the software TMC support takes too long I have an alternative proposal:
- it would be possible to buy a TMC receiver for a mere ~$100 and
- log the TMC messages in country. All of them.
- start a website
- write a program that periodically downloads the content of the website via 3G
- and feed a COM port that Igo or other navigation programs can read.
As far as I know (please correct me if you know an existing solution) there is no such site online.
How does it sound?

i have read this thread for Diamond and then i have found this other thread for Blackstone http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=511838
it can help us??? it's possible to try this blackstone method on our Diamond...
thanks for answer

dibbutz said:
i have read this thread for Diamond and then i have found this other thread for Blackstone http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=511838
it can help us??? it's possible to try this blackstone method on our Diamond...
thanks for answer
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Thanks dibbutz for bringing this to my attention.
It does work on the Touch Diamond, better than the TMC on the £1,000 Garmin in my Volvo.
There are three things that you ought to be aware of.
1) You need the headphones plugged in to act as a aerial.
2) It only works with a good signal, don’t expect it to work indoors without fiddling with the aerial.
3) The HyperGPS program remains working even when the program is closed. The only way to unload it is to do a soft reset. (Could have battery implications).

Internal TMC on Diamond is possible !!!
Look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=512630
It works !

Can I use internal gps receiver with Tomtom mobile 6

Sorry about the noobie question, but I would like to know if it is possible to use the GPS receiver with the Tytn II with TOMTOM 6 software or is the only option to use an external gps reciever?

You do not need an external GPS recevier. The map applications are compatible with the built-in GPS receiver, just configure the appropriate COM port for GPS...
More info HERE

This is the most awsome thread ever. We should sticky it.

HTC Wing's s730 GPS with Garmin XT

Some dude telling me that the s730 has GPS chipset for GPS software like Garmin XT, will this work ?

I installed Garmin XT and it works, but only with an external bluetooth antenna...

Only pre-production models had some kind of built-in GPS. Normal S730 phones only have a chip without an antenna, rendering it useless. You will need to use a bluetooth GPS in order to navigate using Garmin/Tomtom/McGuider.

Whether GPS does work within HTC S730?
22nd February 2009 11:29 AM
zampotta
I installed Garmin XT and it works, but only with an external bluetooth antenna...
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Hi everyone.
And to zampotta: Which release version of Garmin XT have you installed on your smartphone, and how did you connect external BT antenna with S730?
Thanks for your answer, in advance.