Cannot Send email without deleting account first! - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

I have an amazingly annoying problem whereby I set my email account up on my Kaiser and it works perfectly for a few days sending email, then all of a suddenly stops sending email, giving me the message about network coverage and checking your settings. The ONLY way I can fix it is delete the account from the phone, then recreate it again – using EXACTLY the same settings. Again the account will send email without a problem for a couple of days (using the SMTP server smtp.t-email.co.uk on T-Mobile in the UK) then fail again.
Has anyone come across this before as its driving me crackers now
Thanks

Same problem here...
That's funny, I thought it was just me. I have gotten really good at setting up my account again. I thought it was ROM specific, but have had it happen on other rom's. I use gmail which needs secure data connection. Do you use something else?

Oddly enough, I have both a gmail account set up (although I never use this to send email) and a pop3 email account from my ISP which is causing me all the problems!

Are you using an IMAP account by any chance?
I noticed I would have similar trouble with mine, and it happens if I try to delete a message or otherwise move one between folders.
The first time this happened I went the delete/readd account path as well, but the second time I managed to link it to the fact I had just deleted a message. I brought the message back from the trash can to where it was initially, and the account would sync again.
oops - just reread and noticed your problem was sending, mine was the whole send/receive process that would fail. Still leaving here in case it can lead to something...

So then, this has worked 100% for the past 9 days and now its happened again. I haven't changed anything on my phone. Do I have to delete the account and lose all my messages AGAIN!?

Do some searching -- this sounds like the email issue that Microsoft issued a fix for a few months back

I have saerched and found threads on several boards aabout this problem. none of which contain a solution!

Just to update...Flashed to a brand new ROM (NGY Professional 1.2), email has worked for 2 weeks and the problem has hit again - cannot send email until I delete the account!

Sounds like its fragile to stress and makes it hang on certain job making it loop working out the last string. I am not sure but perhaps sending is in que and it tries to look for deleted/moved data and wount proceed forward. However I would make a backup of my mail then delete all (in/out) then see if it picks up the pace. Then I would try to work it and see whats bugging it, by that I mean send/recieve, move/delete, quit/restart -> synch +++ Dropp a comment on youre observations, perhaps we/me/someone get a more clear image of youre issue and can solve/explain this issue.

Link to Windows Mobile 6.1 Hot Fix for Sending POP and IMAP E-mail
LDJ said:
I have saerched and found threads on several boards aabout this problem. none of which contain a solution!
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Well you didn't search enough because the last time I replied to a thread about this problem I included a link to the download page. Open wide for the spoon feeding - Windows Mobile 6.1 Hot Fix for Sending POP and IMAP E-mail

Flying Kiwi said:
Well you didn't search enough because the last time I replied to a thread about this problem I included a link to the download page. Open wide for the spoon feeding - Windows Mobile 6.1 Hot Fix for Sending POP and IMAP E-mail
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Thanks for the response (and sarcasm!), but it wont install - the phone just reboots during the attempted installation...

LDJ said:
Thanks for the response (and sarcasm!), but it wont install - the phone just reboots during the attempted installation...
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It's annoying when it's a known issue and someone even prompts you so (burtcom). xda-dev is meant to be more of a self help forum so going over old ground is not good. The update worked with the UK WM 6.1 HTC ROM release (although hardly anything else did) so unless you're wanting to go back to the official ROM, you'll need to see what people in the thread related to the custom ROM you're using, have to say about it.
Good luck and I'll try not to be scarcastic next time if you take prompts to search for the answer because it's already been discussed, more seriously.

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annoying email problem

hey guys, just wondering if anybody else has teh same problem and if theres any fixes....
i have 2 email accounts that download automatically (every hr). i get the new emails, delete them, and an hour later they're downloaded again as new! it gets really annoying! the only way i've found to avoid it most of the time, is to delete the emails, and then hit send recieve... dunno... anybody else?
omaralt said:
hey guys, just wondering if anybody else has teh same problem and if theres any fixes....
i have 2 email accounts that download automatically (every hr). i get the new emails, delete them, and an hour later they're downloaded again as new! it gets really annoying! the only way i've found to avoid it most of the time, is to delete the emails, and then hit send recieve... dunno... anybody else?
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I do not get this problem at all on my Kaiser. You are obviously leaving a copy of you mail on the servers (is that intentional?). I also leave mine on the server so that I can collect it from my PC as the main collection point (which then removes it). However, despite me using the same settings as you I do not see this problem. Have you checked all the advanced settings?
Do you have the deleted items being emptied each time you connect/disconnect? (This is in messaging app - menu-tools-options and the Storage tab) Try looking at this setting - I am just guessing but it may be that your device is emptying the deleted items and so when you next connect it recollects all mail not knowing it was originally put into the deleted items by you?
Just a guess that may be worth looking at .
ekh this problem has gotten even worse now that ive upgraded to dutty's 6.1 rom... now it wont even delete the emails off the server! i delete thee mails, hit send/recieve, and everything seems to be fine. but next time it downloads my email it downloads all the old emails! i've checked all my settings, and everything is right! any ideas? i might just end up going back to a 6.0 rom...
omaralt said:
ekh this problem has gotten even worse now that ive upgraded to dutty's 6.1 rom... now it wont even delete the emails off the server! i delete thee mails, hit send/recieve, and everything seems to be fine. but next time it downloads my email it downloads all the old emails! i've checked all my settings, and everything is right! any ideas? i might just end up going back to a 6.0 rom...
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I have dutty's 6.1 on my kaiser also. No email issues here. I have my kaiser set to delete my mail right off the server, where they go into the servers delete file untill I permanently delete them. I usually keep about 6 months worth in the delete file in case I need to look one up. There is a setting in the kaiser email setup to delete off the server. Is it checked? Sounds like everytime you sync it's sending whatever's there. My sync is set to always on. Maybe that makes a diff.
any more news... Using duttys' too and same probblem... Using godaddy for the server and the emails won't delete off the server..
However outlook on laptop and my old hermies/Tytn-I/8525 running 6.0 works!!!

Gmail push mail thoughts.

OK folks, does anyone have any recommendations for Gmail push mail for the Kaiser?
Gmail App: Either adding this to your phone, or using it online on your phone seems to work well, but, unless I'm an idiot, there is no push--you have to check your e-mail manually. That kinda kills it.
emoze: http://www.emoze.com/en/get/index.asp. This is a neat little app that you install on your phone, and it seems to log you into a server that checks your Gmail (or Yahoo, whatever) and then pushes whatever it finds there to your phone. However, this seems relatively buggy and unreliable. One, if it works when you send an email, not long after it will download that sent email to your phone and tell you you have an email. Two, it wants to fiddle with your activesync settings which don't seem to work too well.
mobiPush: At http://www.mobiPush.com. Well, this seems unreliable, or at least, slow as hell. Now, being used to text messages, maybe the speed is normal for push mail, I don't know. Oddly enough, it won't connect to the internet when I have my USB cable plugged in, even though I have "Allow wireless connections" checked in activesync.
mail2web live: http://services.mail2web.com/FreeServices/. I have no idea, I haven't tried it.
Does anyone have any thoughts on these? Other suggestions? Want to point out my glaring errors? Feel free, and thanks!
Do you have issues w/ Imap? I have mine setup to check every 15 or 30 minutes and only keep 3 days of messages on my phone so it doesn't get too cluttered. I dont have the issue of sending an email and having the sent message show up as new when using this manner either. Just a thought/suggestion.
My gmail pushes to kaiser perfectly fine...
It's an option in Gmail you have to set.
Seven
http://community.seven.com/main.php
this pushes email great for me
fiddelm3742 said:
Do you have issues w/ Imap? I have mine setup to check every 15 or 30 minutes and only keep 3 days of messages on my phone so it doesn't get too cluttered. I dont have the issue of sending an email and having the sent message show up as new when using this manner either. Just a thought/suggestion.
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I just found that and set it up, thank you!
What I'm trying to avoid is having the phone check for email, and it seems that with Gmail IMAP you have to tell the phone to check at whatever intervals you want.
redsrule2500 said:
My gmail pushes to kaiser perfectly fine...
It's an option in Gmail you have to set.
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Where exactly do you see this option?
redsrule2500 said:
My gmail pushes to kaiser perfectly fine...
It's an option in Gmail you have to set.
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When you say it's "an option in Gmail you have to set," can you be more specific?
It seems that by setting up IMAP the phone has to check, Gmail isn't pushing mail to the phone automatically, is it? There doesn't seem to be a reason for the phone to check if Gmail is pushing.
Thoughts? And thank you!
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Where exactly do you see this option?
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I second that.
What the 2 guys before me said.
Gmail itself seems curiously silent about this one. Especially because it would be a MASSIVE boon to their business...
Bueller? Anyone? Anyone?
rush242 said:
mobiPush: At http://www.mobiPush.com. Well, this seems unreliable, or at least, slow as hell. Now, being used to text messages, maybe the speed is normal for push mail, I don't know. Oddly enough, it won't connect to the internet when I have my USB cable plugged in, even though I have "Allow wireless connections" checked in activesync.
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As it turns out, the USB issue was a different issue all together. That's just Activesync being kinda crappy. D'oh!
That doesn't make mobiPush suddenly awesome, just that it had nothing to do with them. Heh.
what about Flexmail? It has IMAP IDLE support which will function like push email. If you set up the Gmail IMAP account under the program, it should automatically notify you when new emails are received.
Check the Hacking and Development area for ImapPusherService. I haven't gotten it to work on mine yet, but others have had good success. It isn't perfect, but as long as you don't SR very often it should work no problem. Downside, if you do a SR you have to relaunch the program and reenter your username and password.
I was just going to say the same thing having read this thread last night but not replied. ImapPusherService is what you're after. Very fast and works well. It's going to be THE software for pushing email to windows mobile.
FYI if you haven't got it working you should dump the tracking file and send it to the developer but before you do this try putting recent: before your username like this recent:username
and here's the link
http://www.codeplex.com/ImapPusherService
BTW Seven in my experience is poor. Use it if you want an email client that doesn't push but simply checks for email every 5 minutes and takes up memory. Oh wait. pocket outlook does this without taking up extra memory!
cheese74 said:
what about Flexmail? It has IMAP IDLE support which will function like push email. If you set up the Gmail IMAP account under the program, it should automatically notify you when new emails are received.
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Thanks for the heads up, I'll have to check into this, as it ain't free. I must say that gives me a bit more confidence as I bought Pocket Informant recently. That program goes a bit overboard, but it does what they say it will do.
Gracias.
knmwt15000 said:
I was just going to say the same thing having read this thread last night but not replied. ImapPusherService is what you're after. Very fast and works well. It's going to be THE software for pushing email to windows mobile.
FYI if you haven't got it working you should dump the tracking file and send it to the developer but before you do this try putting recent: before your username like this recent:username
and here's the link
http://www.codeplex.com/ImapPusherService
BTW Seven in my experience is poor. Use it if you want an email client that doesn't push but simply checks for email every 5 minutes and takes up memory. Oh wait. pocket outlook does this without taking up extra memory!
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what do you mean check for email every 5 minutes? seven isn't push?
Why use an app? go to your Gmail page and enable pop ( under settings ) Works great for me. I have mine saving 1 weeks worth of emails on the phone, automatically downloading all attachments, as well as updating every 5 minutes.... Never had an issue. I use my gmail rather than my blackberry email from work because the Kaiser handles mail SOOOOOO much better with attachments.
I am using Flexmail as well and found it the best solution so far for push Gmail. Setup was relatively easy and I like the advanced folder management options that Flexmail provides. Also, html formatting is a big plus.
I tried Seven, mobipush, emoze, and mail2web. All of them had some disadvantages such as bulky background client, slow receive/send, instability with other apps, and 3rd party reply-to address (mail2web). Flexmail is well worth the cost as it connects to the Gmail imap servers directly and I typically receive emails in my phone within 10 seconds of it actually appearing on Gmail web-mail.
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what do you mean check for email every 5 minutes? seven isn't push?
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In my experience it is not. I set it up and intermittently sent test emails to my address. Got new mail exactly every 5 mins....
knmwt15000 said:
I was just going to say the same thing having read this thread last night but not replied. ImapPusherService is what you're after. Very fast and works well. It's going to be THE software for pushing email to windows mobile.
FYI if you haven't got it working you should dump the tracking file and send it to the developer but before you do this try putting recent: before your username like this recent:username
and here's the link
http://www.codeplex.com/ImapPusherService
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Thanks for the heads up on this one. As a plus: it's Free, and that's brilliant. It's small, doesn't use up much space, memory, et cetera. However, it only seems to work intermittently, and that's just not worth the trouble.
posted in DCD'd Titan Rom 3.2.5 ROM as well....
Don't know where the error is. Reflashed 3.2.5 three times, same error. Just to put it out there.... anyone using the beta program Seven for pushing email?
Gmail worked before but will not connect from the Gmail shortcut from the login screen. Yahoo and Hotmail shortcuts work fine. Went in to "Other Pop Accounts" and added Gmail there and worked fine.
Note: No issues at all regarding this with 3.2.3

Email hangs on "disconnecting"

It's taken me a while but now I am convinced that no matter if I have my Fuze connected to charger or not, every morning is it hung up on email "disconnecting" and I usually have to soft boot. Sometimes I can change applications, sometimes it won't let me, to cause the email program to resume. I have it set to periodically check my email every 2 hours, and it does get some email, but then hangs and doesn't get the rest until I can un-hang it. Anyone know what the problem is? I'm using the original ROM. TIA
Solution?
Did you ever find a solution for this?? I am having the same problem...
Regards,
Joao
No.
The only thing I can do is whenever I want to get email is to either reboot or sometimes I can force is to disconnect, select a different email account and try to log in.
May be,just may be, you have a 'bad' email(s) in your inbox. It affect the sync process.
I once had this problem with my windowslive live account, I cleaned my inbox and I wz able to sync normally.
This is just a probablilty,,,
Xue v.2 said:
May be,just may be, you have a 'bad' email(s) in your inbox. It affect the sync process.
I once had this problem with my windowslive live account, I cleaned my inbox and I wz able to sync normally.
This is just a probablilty,,,
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Not likely. This has been going on for over 5 months, and I only store mail for 3 days. Sometimes I have to delete the account completely from the Fuze, and start over new. Then it will work for a while. Very frustrating, especially coming from Blackberrys which worked flawlessly for over 5 years.
by the mean 'inbox' i meant about server inbox,,,
well, blackberry sell its email service since 5 years ago, while WinMo OS introduced this pushmail service like,,, a year?
but still, we HTC owner deserve more
HTC: when beauty meets intelligence and power,
Blackberry: email, email, email, email, and prestige,,, LoL
(I'm an iPhone and BB hater LoL LoL, a lot of ppl in my country bought those devices only for its prestige,,,sigh)
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by the mean 'inbox' i meant about server inbox,,,
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I know you meant server inbox. But, if I make a new, identical account, it works, even though I make no changes to the server, so I do not think it is anything on the server.
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well, blackberry sell its email service since 5 years ago, while WinMo OS introduced this pushmail service like,,, a year?
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I am not using any "push mail" service. I simply have the HTC poll the different email servers to see if there is any email at a preset periodic time. It usually "hangs" on the same account, even though I have two accounts on the same server. But, I do poll the "problem account" more frequently than the other account, so it may just be the law of probabilities. In any case it is quite frustrating, especially since is seems you and I are the only ones with this problem.
Actually, my problem is a bit different than yours, my phone was never 'give up' on retreiving emails from google and yahoo (which use IMAP4 idle connection). It just has an issue with live account sync.
And the problem was solved (by cleaning my live inbox)
I googled about this winlive issue, and turned out I have lots of comrades LoL

Gmail and sent/reply messages

I've been trying to find a way to fix this...
Is there a way or a setting somewhere that stops the Tilt from downloading messages I send/reply or is that a setting a gmail. It is annoying when I reply to an email using the gmail web interface or with outlook on my PC, then my phone will download my mail as a new message. I don't really want to set up some sort of filter, since some times when I send an email, I will CC myself, but I am just annoyed by it downloading every single reply.
Uuuuuhhhhhhh o.k.
stop CC'ing yourself, just check your sent box... too simple or not complex enough a solution?
jiannichan said:
I've been trying to find a way to fix this...
Is there a way or a setting somewhere that stops the Tilt from downloading messages I send/reply or is that a setting a gmail. It is annoying when I reply to an email using the gmail web interface or with outlook on my PC, then my phone will download my mail as a new message. I don't really want to set up some sort of filter, since some times when I send an email, I will CC myself, but I am just annoyed by it downloading every single reply.
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Did you read the problem or not understand it? The problem is when I reply to emails, the Tilt will download it as a new message. Where did I state that I CC myself all the time? What does checking my sent messages have anything to do with what the Tilt is downloading?
little snippy...
Pretty sure you not only said it, but now you've highlighted the fact that you sometimes CC yourself on emails sent, so yes, you would receive a copy. You would check your sent box to view messages that you have sent rather than CC'ing yourself. Mighty snippy for someone asking for help. Are you using a threaded version of Gmail? that's the only reason I could think you would receive a copy of the conversation, aside from CC'ing yourself.
If you read it, it says SOMETIMES. My problem is EVERY email reply gets downloaded. The CCs aren't a problem and not something I am complaining about. I am complaining about all replies done by me being downloaded as a new email. My response to you would have been different if you actually replied like you read it what the problem was.
updated after you posted
Trying again, are you using a threaded style of Gmail or the true Gmail website?
Not really sure. I rarely ever use the gmail website unless I am at a different computer. Most of my email comes to my phone and PC, which I remote into during work and just use Outlook to respond if I can. I'll try to explain the problem better. I apologize, just having a hectic day at work.
When someone emails me, the Tilt will download the email.
I will reply back using the tilt, or Outlook on my PC, and every once in a while, the gmail web interface. NOT CCing myself.
Tilt then downloads again, my reply and puts it in my inbox.
The only time I CC myself, is when I send out a new email that I feel is important. I do this because I like to have a copy for myself, and I empty my sent box on a weekly basis.
Also, I just did a web search on this threaded gmail thing you were talking about. It appears that is a 'feature' in gmail and it can't be disabled. It puts my replys in a 'conversation' style so it thinks that my replies are new messages and just downloads them. I guess I just have to deal with it.
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Does ONLY the tilt capture all replies or do they also show up on your box at home and is this independant of from where you reply (home box or tilt)? Gmail uses a conversation view that shows reply messages as a long conversation would appear in MMS/SMS. I can't imagine that this would cause the problem but may be another piece to this puzzle.
Don't worry about my comments, I'm a smart-ass. Pretty much everyone is here to help and there are many more smart-assier (and just plain smarter) than me. Just roll with the punches and enjoy the website.
I must type slowly
I use Gmail and reply from my tilt as well, but have not had a problem. But i don't use a web app, I have gmail as a separate account that I access just like standard push-mail. What way do you use gmail?
Same problem
When I used my tilt I was having the same problem. I would send an email from my tilt (from a push account I had set up on the phone) and would receive a copy of the sent mail as a new message. I had that phone for 2 years and used various roms and could never stop it from doing so. It was very annoying to say the least. Some light on this matter would be awesome.
If I can, I just use email from the phone, or outlook on my PC if there is a large attachment. It only does it on the Tilt. My outlook on the PC is only showing up the emails from other people, and not myself. I can see on the web interface my replies though if I log on.
I have it set up on the Tilt as an account as well, so I am not using the gmail interface thru the phone. Not sure how I have it setup or if it is a seperate email software. I just click on messages and added the email account. It doesn't matter where I reply from. I also have a Yahoo account set up and it doesn't do this.
Also, the phone info:
Duttys WM6.1 build 19700
radio 1.65.14.06
I had this problem once and I was because I forget to change the "[email protected]" that I used during the initial setup back to my actual e-mail address.
I just fixed the issue. I deleted the account from the phone and recreated a new one and set it up as IMAP. I think the issue at first was because I had it set up and let the phone download the settings for me and it configured it as POP. This time, I set up everything manually and tested it out and it appears to be fine now.

Unrevoked team: Issue Tracker

Its down. Dont post things that are wrong with out stuff here, it's not the point of this thread.
hey ozzeh i tried your rom and it will not boot up for me. it just stays at the htc screen i waited ten minuets and nothing at all any ideas ?
with capten jarger rom it freezes on me and the facebook sync is broke
B-dub25 said:
hey ozzeh i tried your rom and it will not boot up for me. it just stays at the htc screen i waited ten minuets and nothing at all any ideas ?
with capten jarger rom it freezes on me and the facebook sync is broke
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Do you honestly think this is the place to ask that?
Yea I did ,sorry mods can delete that post it said post bugs and issues. I thought it might be a issue or bug ,sorry about that
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Yea I did ,sorry mods can delete that post it said post bugs and issues. I thought it might be a issue or bug ,sorry about that
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Actually, if you reread the OP, it instructs you to follow the provided link, register, and post your issue or bug there.
You are correct I'm sorry ozzeh long long day at work I'm half a sleep .( won't happen again)
I registered an account, but didn't receive an register email and I am unable to login. I performed a password reset, and that sent me an email that I had an account, but I still cannot login with the new password. Is there something going on?
Alpha Maven said:
I registered an account, but didn't receive an register email and I am unable to login. I performed a password reset, and that sent me an email that I had an account, but I still cannot login with the new password. Is there something going on?
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Josh probably screwed up exim, I'll manually authorize all pending accounts.
Alpha Maven said:
I registered an account, but didn't receive an register email and I am unable to login. I performed a password reset, and that sent me an email that I had an account, but I still cannot login with the new password. Is there something going on?
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I have the same problem. Can you check for an account 'loryndm'. I love your ROM and would like to assist in testing.
Email authentication has been changed to automatic, hopefully this will cut down any more issues
Ok Again Awesome job Unrevoked team!~
I have noticed in the Recovery menu's that some glitches are present not allowing the ability to go back...
The ++++++BACK++++++ doesn't show up sometimes.
I have fiddled with it and of course get it to work by clicking the power button a few times or even holding it in...
Just wanted to put this outthere
Unrevoked 3 Rooting Issues with my Droid Incredible.
I know it says to not post problems here but I am in desperate need of a solution...please help.
The company I work for uses Microsoft Exchange Server for our Email Service and before I rooted my Droid Incredible I was able to use the Exchange Activesync service on my phone to sync with my work's email without a problem.
Now that I rooted my phone I receive an error telling me I am unable to connect to the exchange server. I have already attempted to use "K-9 Email Client" and "Lockpicker" to see if I could connect. No luck... I believe the issue is with a missing certificate but I am not sure. I have already contacted my IT Department at my work which ended up being useless cause they are unaware of how to locate the certificate for our email service.
Anyways if anyone could shed some light on this please do...Thank you!
Also Facebook does not sync contacts, the live feed works fine.
I don't really mind this cause I'm using "FB Sync" to get my friends pictures but I do miss having all of Facebook contacts shown in my Contacts List.
Phone: HTC Incredible
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