my tilt keeps eating files on the sd card - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

my tilt keeps eating files on my sd card which hasent botered me much untill today it ate my tomtom maps and im over 200 miles from home so I don't know how im going to get home on thursday what could be causing this?

Could be a bad or dying card. I had one that behaved similarly -- got a new one that so far has been rock-solid

Newegg has some pretty cheap cards, I got a 2 gig for only 4 dollars, free shipping.

burtcom said:
Could be a bad or dying card. I had one that behaved similarly -- got a new one that so far has been rock-solid
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I'd say the same..
OP you got more chance that your card is corrupted than that your device has an appertite for data

that's what I thought when it 1st started but this card is only a cople weeks old. usually it just eats my wisbar themes or the folders there in this is the 1st time its ate anything oter than that.

Are you sure the files are totally gone? I had this happen a few weeks ago, where my ENTIRE SD card's contents were missing, and then out of the blue, they reappear unchanged. It happened again yesterday, and then, back to normal. Maybe an external reader could see if the files were there or not. Or try a data recovery program if they were deleted, there are a ton of free ones on the web. I think there was an alright one called something like Recuva. Good luck finding your files.
Dave

Disappearing files is not normal. Run a checkdisk.

I've had this happen to mine, as well. The files were there, but the file system had to me manipulated in order to get them to appear again. It would say on my computer that 5.38 GB of my 8 GB card were used, but no files were present. The only way it they would show up again was if I tried to recopy the files from my computer on a card reader. It would ask if I would like to overwrite the files, then they would reappear. I narrowed it down to an unknown error that kept happening after the Tilt would write a new file to the card. A hard reset is the only way I found to fix the problem. Since I did my most recent hard reset and formatted the Micro SD card and reinstalled everything, it works like a charm. Don't bother with AT&T. They are convinced it's a problem with the card. When I called, it was the first time that they had dealt with the issue. I even ended up talking to a rep from HTC, and they had never dealt with the issue. I, too, had TomTom Navigator, and lost maps. I have a SanDisk 8 GB MicroSD HC card. Maybe one or both of those components plays a factor in the error. I hate to say that you have to reset it to fix anything, but so far, it's the only thing that's worked. Back up your data. I carry a MicroSD card reader with me on my keychain with a card with duplicate data on it, just in case I am ever 200 miles from home without my GPS maps. I pop it in and worry about the issue when I get home.

I've to say you are not the only one person has this problem. My Tilt eat up SD contents all the time, especially when it try to write some contents to the card but the Tilt just switched-off during the writing. (I have some SW that pull data periodically from the Internet. Sometimes takes longer than the auto-off timer).
The only solution I have now is to make a backup mSD card on my notebook, and if anything suspecious happend to the card, I first run a chkdsk with notebook, or if the problem is beyond repair (like whole Tomtom missing), I just re-format the card then copy everything back.
Anyway, just chkdsk the card on PC periodically, my experience shows those small errors in begin will accomulate and finally eat up all files on the card.
And oh, yes, it's not necessarily a card problem. I have several mSD cards from various vendor with verious spec (speed, size) all shows the same problem.
Not perfect solution, but it serves me well. (Better than stuck 200miles from home...)

Maybe you should feed your phone more often so that it doesn't have those crazy urges to feast on your presious sd card files.

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Storage card pretents to be empty when it is not?

I am running Duttys March 4 Dual Touch, No Cube on my Kaiser. Probably unrelated, but yesterday every thing on my 6GB Sandisk Storage Card disappeared
About 750mb of data! The card appears empty in File Manager until I select "Show all files" when a single folder called WMDRM containing a single 132kb file shows up.
If I go to Settings> System> Memory The storage card shows 738mb used and 5084mb free. So it appears the data is there but inaccessible. If I browse the card from activeSync the same is also the case. Properties tell be 738mb used, but nothing is visibel except the single small file.
Any ideas on how I might be able to get it back? Really want to get my data back....
Storage Card scrambled files?
logger said:
I am running Duttys March 4 Dual Touch, No Cube on my Kaiser. Probably unrelated, but yesterday every thing on my 6GB Sandisk Storage Card disappeared
About 750mb of data! The card appears empty in File Manager until I select "Show all files" when a single folder called WMDRM containing a single 132kb file shows up.
If I go to Settings> System> Memory The storage card shows 738mb used and 5084mb free. So it appears the data is there but inaccessible. If I browse the card from activeSync the same is also the case. Properties tell be 738mb used, but nothing is visibel except the single small file.
Any ideas on how I might be able to get it back? Really want to get my data back....
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You may have scrambled your files.
Put it into a USB card reader and try to access it on your PC - if it looks the same there, try looking at it with a good file undeleter like Fix-It Utilities or Norton, see if you can recover anything.
I just had a laptop hard drive fail on my last week, so I feel your pain. Fortunately I had fairly recent backups so I didn't lose too much.
Makes me think of someone's tagline I saw once:
"There are 2 kinds of people in this world, those with a backup plan in place, and those that have not yet had a catastrophic disk failure"
Good luck!
Search this site for SD CARD2
Most likely the issue is cause by the infamous Win CE bug.
If I have not posted the solution here, do a google search in the Web, you'll find detailed instructions.
[Edit] Your data is there, so don't do anything foolish, or else you'll have to reinstall everything. The SD CARD2 issue is very simple to resolve.
Thanks guys. Had a look as SD CARD2 threads and they did not seem to relate to me. Ran Pocket Mechanic and its Scandisk feature on the Card and it reported loads of "lost clusters". I then ran it again with "Automatically fix errors" and "discard lost clusters" and it merrily removed them all. So now my 738mb of data has gone. Rats. Oh well I will just start again a fresh and hope it does nto happen again.
i feel your pain. it's happened to me quite a few times on my XDA II, and once recently on my Kaiser when i damaged the mini-usb port (entirely my fault) and it started writing corrupted data onto the card when copying files over through activesync
I've since taken to keeping copies of my card data in addition to backups of my device. i usually carry 2 cards with me, one backup and one "current"; and i also keep backups of my SD cards on my PC, just in case.
Strangely, After a few hours most of the data on the card spontaneously returned. One minute it was empty and the next it had all the folders and files back again. Albeit with a lot of lost clusters and a heap of files reported as 32kb. Was able to recover a lot of the stuff and have got another 2GB card to use in the mean time.
Is there much point in reformatting the card? From experience, does anyone know if formatting might "fix" whatever caused it to lose clusters and go bad? Am considering sending it back for a warranty claim but how can I ascertain if it is actaully faulty once I reformat it.
Reformat or replace?
logger said:
Strangely, After a few hours most of the data on the card spontaneously returned. One minute it was empty and the next it had all the folders and files back again. Albeit with a lot of lost clusters and a heap of files reported as 32kb. Was able to recover a lot of the stuff and have got another 2GB card to use in the mean time.
Is there much point in reformatting the card? From experience, does anyone know if formatting might "fix" whatever caused it to lose clusters and go bad? Am considering sending it back for a warranty claim but how can I ascertain if it is actaully faulty once I reformat it.
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I have had USB flash memory seem to be faulty, especially when trying to transfer large amounts of data for a backup - then rebooted and re-inserted and had readable data. I would try reformatting, and then back up often and watch it like a hawk. Or, if it wasn't too expensive, just discard. Or, try to get a replacement - I did get an SD card replaced once at N/C because it wouldn't read in anything I tried it in, and I complained and was heard.
I bought a replacement 2GB panasonic microSD in Japan a couple of days back. (Always find the memory quality excellent there.) Their eyes were out on stalks when they saw my 6GB card. Must not be wideley available there yet. Anyway I plan to use the 2gb for the time being to rule out hardware and software causes. Have reformatted the suspect 6gb card. Will soon start using it again with everything backed up to the max and hopefully the problem will not return. I have been flashing a few different ROMs. Because of this I am becoming ever more reliant on the Storage Card for system recovery. So cant afford to have a dodgy one.
Hi, folks.
I use a HTC cruise with WM6.1 from Bepe. This morning, all files from my 8GB miniSD card just vanisehd!!! I removed the card from the phone and tried to access the files in windows with a sd card reader, but no file was seen. Although, there was only 3,5GB free!!! The files weren't there, but they kept occupying space. I used this software to recover the files. Awesome! They were all there, except for the ones stored in root. Also,I had to rename all root folders, the subfolders were OK. I just had to filter files marked as "good" and then copied them to my HD. The phone is working as usual, but I can't explain why exactly this happened? Would it be a vicious virus? A joke from Micro$oft? Any ideas?!?

SD card failure (Poll)

I noticed that like me some other people have problems with the kaiser not reading a micro SD card.
I have a 8 GB Sandisk Micro SD card and a T-Mobile MDA (with the original firmware)
A couple of days ago my Kaiser could read the memory card. Task manager (PPC) said it was not installed (something like that, I have a Dutch firmware). I had all the files on my PC so I formatted the SD card and tried again. No go..
some time later I repeated the process and it worked, for over an hour or so. (WMP was transferring some music when I got a notification that there was problem.)
I tried to use the original 1 GB SD card, didn't work.
Next I tried a hard reset. Again, a no go..
So.. I think the problem is in the hardware [Peran is wondering what the status is on those promised hardware acceleration drivers..]
been using 1gb, 2gb, 4gb, and 6gb ones...havnet had a problem...havent tried 8gb tho
6GB + 8GB working with it for the last 6/7 moths. And did not have any problems.
At the risk of sounding rude...
What is the point of having a poll on this? you got a bad card ...we see that.We have read your other post.
there isn't really a point.. Just me knowing that I am about the only one with the problem.
On topic; yesterday evening I tried it again and.. the problem is gone..
Has anybody any ideas what I did wrong? ... it seems to be me that is doing something wrong.
Still no problems..
are you going to retract your vote?
I dont know. I hate things like this happening..
Still no problems..
Offtopic, does XDA forums 'close topics'?
I have similar problem. 6gb card been working for months.
Suddenly the HTC can't see it.
Can still see it on PC.
Reformated it, etc and still no luck.
i had this, it turned out to be some exe files which were corrupt, and were screwing up the PDA.
As soon as i removed these, access to the card speed wise, was also greatly increased. Seemed to be the icons for the exe files failed to load, and hung the PDA.
I doubt its the card thats failed, more than likely, the drivers.
i formatted the memory card and hard reset my tytn. there are no files on the memory card...
Im having the same problem again...
flashy said:
i had this, it turned out to be some exe files which were corrupt, and were screwing up the PDA.
As soon as i removed these, access to the card speed wise, was also greatly increased. Seemed to be the icons for the exe files failed to load, and hung the PDA.
I doubt its the card thats failed, more than likely, the drivers.
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I have the same problem.. My Kaiser stopped reading my sd card..
What exe files did you erase? How did you find the files that were currupted?
Thanks
Mine didn't work on/off for a while after I dropped my Kaiser...but i put it back in and stuff and it has worked for about a month since.
I just got my tilt today. And I threw my 1gb Lexar in and it won't recognize, and my pc won't recognize it either.
My tytn2 is running HTC official rom(WM6.1).
I'm currently using a Sandisk 8GB MicroSD card without any issues for a couple of months now.
Run fsck on the card... If that comes up clean, there's a problem. Otherwise, the Kaiser (WM?) is just very picky.
used a 1 GB Sandisk in the past, upgraded to 4 GB Sandisk..no problems with either one...
having problems with mine right now.
The other day while driving tomtom displayed a message about my accessing my map settings.
I closed tomtom and started it again as i'd had problems in the past with my BA not reading from the card. no maps found!!??? I checked with file explorer card was there but no files on my card. I checked with resco file explorer still no files.
When i got home i checked through active sync, and tried a few restarts, same again so i thought it may be the phone, only had it a week.
I tried the card in my card reader ...strange... 3 gig was being used but no files on card.
Formated the card put everything back aarrgggghhhh!
Today go to put speed cameras back on card and all files on the card have strange names with blocks in.
I unplugged the usb ready to format, again. Rebooted the phone pluged in the usb all files back to normal.
God that seemed like an essay!!
I have had the same thing happen several times. Most of the files on my card have disappeared and I know they are still there. I have found 2 causes.
Sometimes I disconnect the sync cable with out closing folders. Especially when I have been installing things directly to the card. My card will only show a few files but when I connect it back to the computer it will fix itself. The files suddenly reappear.
The second cause took me a while to figure out. I use a motorokr in the car to listen to my music while I drive. Sometimes I shut off the power without stopping wmp. Again the card will show no files. I knew they must still be there but connecting to the computer didn't help. I decided to update my wmp library and suddenly everything was back. Hope this helps someone!

Storage card randomly lost data

Yesterday my girlfriend told me all of a sudden her programs on her storage card stopped working. Well come to find out, it was like everything related to windows on the card was deleted somehow (program files, application data, etc.). She used to have the same card in a flip phone so the folders from that like music and pictures still exist. She hasn't changed anything on her phone, I usually do all that for her, so she wouldn't have done anything in that department.
Anyone heard of this happening before?
Any help would be greatful, I would like to possibly retrieve some files before I reformat the card.
Thanks in advance.
Step one: Buy a SD reader. You can get one on Ebay, Radioshack, etc. Very cheap. 5-25 dollars. I think 25 is even pushing it.
Step two: see if you can retrieve files with reader
Step three: after retrieving said files, format your SD card.
You forgot step four:
don't let girlfriends use technology and don't trust anyone when they say nothing happened
j/k
Very true. She sometimes can be a little thick, but with Windows mobile, who knows what can happen.
I've had the exact same thing happen to me. AT&T Tilt and 6GB Sandisk MicroSD.
File Explorer on the phone shows nothing on the card. Tried reading the card with a card reader on the PC and it also shows the card is blank. However, the Tilt's memory usage program still shows 3GB of memory is used on the card.
gman8966 said:
Anyone heard of this happening before?
Thanks in advance.
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Same problem here (few times). Even change the SD card. Maybe something in power managment (kaiser tweak?)
Same problem here - lost a TomTom map just randomly - copied map back on, same files, same path.... still using and extra 1gb....
Good stuff...
Cart corrupting on Kaiser is often a problem, you can use a card reader and the soft R-Studio to try get your stuff back...it worked great for me =)
And after formating your card, try to install the Artemis plugin for Card corruption...=)
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oui oui said:
Cart corrupting on Kaiser is often a problem, you can use a card reader and the soft R-Studio to try get your stuff back...it worked great for me =)
And after formating your card, try to install the Artemis plugin for Card corruption...=)
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Something more about this plugin?
Second time after upgrading to official WM6.1 I lost my data
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Something more about this plugin?
Second time after upgrading to official WM6.1 I lost my data
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I have not heard about this plugin either. Interested!
I have had the same issue having lost tom tom maps pictures etc. I have actually installed the artemis card coruption fix as I had that phone b4 this one & it still has happened to me a few times. I am going to format card one last time & the phone from default & see if this occurs again, as I believe it to be caused due to excess heat from the device but that is only a hunch as each time it has occurred the phone has been red hot prior to this.

Lost Folders??

So, I had a folder on my storage card named "My Documents".
Inside I had several subfolders including tomtom maps, videos, ebooks, etc...
Everything was fine, until last night, just before going to bed I was playing around with Dinasoft Memmaid program (first time using the software) and did a scan and a clean, then went to bed.
So today, I went about my life, then synced my phone with my laptop for a few hours to charge the batteries...
...and when I wanted to update my ebooks subfolder, I noticed that my entire "My Documents" folder in my SD card, was gone...
I have to confess that I didn't read much about the documentation of Memaid, but I don't think its functions is to wipe out an entire folder. I have a backup of the files so it's not an important issue.
But I just want to find out the explanation for the missing folder?
P.S. my phone was also extremely slow and unresponsive, but all went back to normal after a soft reset.
Ok...
Today the same thing happen again, but this it's more severe...
Now ALL the folders in my storage card are gone!!!
The entire 2GBs worth of data from my Sandisk 8GB HCSD card....
When I right click on properties on the SD card, it shows that the card has 2GBs of storage being used...
But when I go to file explorer there's nothing...empty...
Surely, this can't be normal...
Has anybody encountered a similar situation?????
Sounds like a Counter Fit SD Card. Where did you get this card?
No....you serious??? don't say that....
I bought it online.
www.play.com
If it's counterfeit I would be very pissed off.
I mean when it arrived it didn't look like counterfeit. It had all the right packaging.
Here;'s my thinking. People who have bought counter fit SD cards are typically getting, say, 2GB cards marked as, say, 8GB. Since the card is showing that it is one thing when it is really another you get data corruption and file start to disappear.
Since you used Memmaid it tried to "fix" the file system. Causing data corruption.
Here's what I would do. Copy all the contents of your SD card to your computer. Reformat the SD card and try again.

My AT&T TILT won't read my microSD card...

My TILT won't read my microSD card, and when I put my microSD card into my computer it reads everything fine... and the phone does recognize microSD card being there because it does say "SLOT : in use"... WHAT DO I DO?
I looked everywhere to look for a solution to fix this (googled and did search on this website)
I love my phone a lot and I do not want to pay hundreds of dollars to get another WinMo phone.
I did soft reset, I did hard reset and I have flashed different roms to fix the problem.
And I called AT&T, they do not have any refurbished TILT available for them to send me one and since I don't have insurance, I can't get a phone like fuze or anything for cheap...
Help me, I want to use this phone for longer...
this problem is giving me a BIG HEADACHE.
Anyone want to help me?
Did you search yet? This question comes up often.
Run a filesystem check on the drive, it might fix it.
how do i run filesystem check on the drive?
like take the microSD card out and put it in my computer and do something?
I don't understand. I am pretty tech-savvy and I know how to flash roms and etc.
But I can't believe it's hard to understand what filesystem check is.. HELP
My microSD card is not corrupted if thats what you mean. I almost wish that was the case.
I think reader on my phone is broken... (hardware)
because like i said on my first post, I put my microSD card to my computer and everything worked fine and I inserted the card back into the phone multiple times and I even tried to format and redo everything. AND NO LUCK.
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My microSD card is not corrupted if thats what you mean. I almost wish that was the case.
I think reader on my phone is broken... (hardware)
because like i said on my first post, I put my microSD card to my computer and everything worked fine and I inserted the card back into the phone multiple times and I even tried to format and redo everything. AND NO LUCK.
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Put it in your computer and do a filesystem check on it. Right-click on the drive or such... Can't tell you the exact steps, don't use Windows.
I am telling you there is nothing wrong with the card.... but i did do filesystem check on it regardless. it said my card is fine. so what would be the next step?
like i said, my slot is broken, is there anything i can do to fix it?
Have you tried another card in the phone? That would rule out the card discussion.
If you didn't have another MicroSD around, you could also try reformatting the card as well, making sure it's in FAT16 or FAT32, not another format.
Well...I dropped my Tilt in January, other than a few scratches, nothing seemed wrong...until I wanted to use Tom-Tom, I then realized that my tilt no longer recoginized my SD card. So after alot of card swapping, card readers and the like, I gave up. My Tilt's SD slot was still functional, when I would insert/remove the card, the screen would light up, but it could not read ANY card inserted, and when in File Explorer or Total Commander, I could not select to view the cards contents, they simply did not see the card. Fast-forward 4 months & I dropped it again & PRESTO! My tilt started recognizing my sd cards again. Funny thing is that my girlfriend suggested I drop it again & see if it would start working, but I disregarded that suggestion thinking to myself "this isn't a old TV." I still have intermintent problems with my tilt not recognizing my cards, but a moderate tap on the bottom/top of my tilt & a soft-reset usually gets things going again. I suspect loose contacts in the slot, so until I jump ship, a couple taps a week won't kill me. Hope this helps.

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