Hi everyone,
I have started looking into using a PS3 controller as an input device for my Diamond.
I want the adility to play games using a PS3 contoller over bluetooth, as the device doesnt have good controls for games. I have managed to get my ps3 controller to work over usb on my pc Next step is to get my controller over blueooth to my pc, I will keep updating this thread
I have found some useful web pages
how get input from PS3 controller over wired with source code: http://www.codeproject.com/KB/mcpp/wiredps3axis.aspx
How to get ps3 controller over bluetooth on linux with source code: http://fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=199246
I dont really know what Im doing when it comes to wm6 and making a device work with wm6. I dont know much about the bluetooth stack either. I will probably need to write some sort of a driver at some point. To catch the input from the controller and convert it into a command on my diamond.
So any help of any kind would be great. Any problems you can see with my plan?
Sorry not sure if this is the right place to put this thread so move if you want.
Well, that didnt go to well.
The controller is appearing in my bluetooth manager on my pc, but i cant connect or query its services.
Now Im really stuck
if someone could help me get some trace data from the connection, or enlighten me to a way of getting some information out of the bluetooth stack.
Thx,
Chris McNamee
Assuming that the PS3 doesn't use a proprietary communication protocol that can't be reverse engineered, this should be possible.
However, I suggest looking here first to get source and discussion re use of the Wii mote on the PPC first.
Then re implement the PS3's control mechanisms.
http://www.codeplex.com/WiiMoB/Thread/View.aspx?ThreadId=10953
There's further discussions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335973
and here:
http://forums.neurostechnology.com/index.php?topic=9759.0
to get you started. Interesting project though!
V
Thanks
Cheers vijay555,
I will have a look as soon as I get a bit of free time
Hmmmm
Thanks vijay555
There is some excellent information on some of those links, but will need to get a wiimote. I cant tell if the drivers have been loaded by the wm6
but i was wondering, how does wm6 know which device its talking to over bluetooth?
It must be via a device serial or something, but what is the term for it?
like i said im a bit of a novice
Yeah, now we're cooking
I found an alternative, the wii remote/classic controller it uses bluetooth and there is lots of source code and examples
http://sourceforge.net/projects/wiiuse/
it comes with a libaray for windows and an example of how to use
all the source code is there to downloading
Now all I need is a wii remote
and to get it going on my pc, then port to PPC.
Then I need to write a frontend to control what action on the mote do on my PPC. Should be easy
sounds like an interesting project, keep us updated!
It has begun
Yesterday I bought a wii controller and got it talking to my pc using the wiiuse.
Wiiuse is open source and it has code already to interpret the controls of the wiimote, including the ir sensing, accelerometer, wii nunchuck, and the classic controller. Which we be very useful, as I dont need to work it out myself.
Also I have got wiimob, kind of working. It uses a library called bluetools to controller the bluetooth (which is pay for, so will need to find/make an alternative at some point but works for now). I have got to the point the author got stuck at (comment in the code says he never got passed), so Im kind of on my own now. Wiimob can search for wiimotes, then search it services but fails when trying to get a stream to the service. Im pretty sure this is because the RemoteService class returned by the bluetools doesnt have the correct GUID, which cause the connection to be refused by the remote device as it doesnt exist.
It is all looking very promising at the min
next steps:
get the bluetools talking to a service on my pc and see if I get the right GUID to determine if its the bluetools code which is failing to get the GUID or the wiimote not giving its GUID for the service.
Will post back with any news
Interesting
It seems that the library doesnt want to connect to a human input device, it wont connect to the wiimote or my bluetooth keyboard. It does seem to work to other services like Obex file transfer.
Hmmm, what?
Guess I found try and find some samples of people using this library and human input device or find a new library. Im not really up for trying to create my own at the min, as it would take a while
O dear
Its really not going well, either my knowledge isnt up to the job or it cant be done.
I have tried hard, but windows mobile is missing the all important hid.dll driver to get a listing of pair bluetooth hid devices so i can open a handle to the device. So I then looked into opening a connection myself and bypassing the hid driver, but from what I can work out it needs two l2cap connections open to the device, 1 on channel 11 for writing and another on channel 13 for reading data. But windows mobile doesnt have an api to access the l2cap layer of the bluetooth stack, the layer down (hci) can be extended but this would take along time to implement as I would then have to implement the l2cap layer myself.
Its turning into a losing battle, I really now doubting that I can do this.
The only idea left is how does the windows mobile use a bluetooth keybaord, does it use a generic driver which it extends or is it complete in its self. If it does uses a generic driver, i need to find some doc.
If anyone has any advice about how to implement l2cap connection or any thing about connecting to a hid device in windows mobile I would be very greatful.
Thanks guys,
But I think this is dead, like many other projects to try and get windows mobile work with a wiimote.
Things have taken a turn
Yeah,
A very helpful guy pointed me down a new line of throught,
I now beleive that I maybe able to do this
well, i need the win ce 6 platform builder
i owuld like to help but not got a clue about these things! keep up the good work
Well, any suggestions
Hmm, the wiimote uses bluetooth hid profile to communicate which talks over a l2cap connection. HID profile uses the universal serial bus (USB) architecture but send data over bluetooth
http://www.bluetooth.com/Bluetooth/Technology/Works/HID.htm
I have two options from what i can see
1. Well, I have found source for a sample keybaord device which I could rip off but cant get it to compile
2. Gain access to the L2CAP layer of the bluetooth stack by extending the stack with some of my own code. Then create my own connections to the wiimote and start sending and receiving reports to the device.
Any suggestions on the best approach?
both will take alot of time either way.
Hmm,
The L2CAP sample code requires some of the core dll for wm. These include coredll.dll and the btd.dll
during the build linking fails as I dont have the lib files, to get the lib files I need to build the os, as these files can change depending on the options specified during the build. I dont really want to do this, as it will limit the software to only one os version of wm, the one i build against.
Next question is can I do a library call and get the function points at runtime?
Well I think I may have to ask on a new thread. I hope so, as it would over come alot of problems, and it wouldnt limit the code to certain versions of the wm
Opened my mouth too quick
I using the wince 6 sdk,
But windows mobile 6 is based on wince 5. Hopefull I will have more luck with the wince 5 sdk
Well, that went a bit better.
Ive got pasted all compiling errors with the sample code I found. I have all the needed include and library files.
When trying to link the compiled code I get a single error now.
1>Compiling...
1>l2capdev.cpp
1>Compiling resources...
1>Microsoft (R) Windows (R) Resource Compiler Version 6.0.5724.0
1>Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
1>Linking...
1>uafxcw.lib(dllmodul.obj) : error LNK2005: DllMain already defined in l2capdev.obj
1> Creating library Windows Mobile 6 Professional SDK (ARMV4I)\Release/l2capdev.lib and object Windows Mobile 6 Professional SDK (ARMV4I)\Release/l2capdev.exp
1>Windows Mobile 6 Professional SDK (ARMV4I)\Release/l2capdev.dll : fatal error LNK1169: one or more multiply defined symbols found
1>Build log was saved at "file://d:\Documents and Settings\Chris\My Documents\Visual Studio 2008\Projects\Bak new l2capdev\l2capdev\Windows Mobile 6 Professional SDK (ARMV4I)\Release\BuildLog.htm"
1>l2capdev - 2 error(s), 0 warning(s)
========== Rebuild All: 0 succeeded, 1 failed, 0 skipped ==========
If anyone can help with this error it would be great.
Sorry guys, but Ive got alot of coursework on at the min.
So it might go a bit quite on here for a bit, but done worry.
Im still working on this when I get some spare time, but I dont have much at the min
Any progress on this mcnamee?
No luck
Well, I have given up on this for awhile.
I would like to start working on this project again when I have some more time.
But for now this is dead.
Chris McNamee
If you are interested in alternatives to the MSI or Chainpus BGP100 bluetooth gamepad, google search "modded by bacteria" go to the "work in progress" section of his forums, and search for the thread "Re-housed Bluetooth controller". The creator of the site, Bacteria, will be transplanting the innards of the BGP100 into an SNES controller. Previously, he has transplanted it into a PS1 controller. It seams feasible to DIY into almost any controller housing.
PS3 for EVO?
I'd love to use the bluetooth connectivity for my Evo and playing ROMs. any ideas?
Apologies if this has been mentioned...
Related
The title says it all. Maybe one of the board members can play with it and create something worth installing.
you can download it here
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=79f19684-f862-4e02-a2b0-0003b4565f34&DisplayLang=en
Finally! Been waiting on this forever! Also, Live Anywhere which they promised a while back!
I do a monthly geek dinner thing where a microsoft person or two come in. One of them is really into the mobile scene. I'll ask her what she has heard/seen so far the next time I see her.
Kyle
installed and working on Diamond rom V4. it is excellent like a remote control for your pc. i am very happy with it i can see many many things will be done with this. exciting stuff.
Chem E Sam said:
installed and working on Diamond rom V4. it is excellent like a remote control for your pc. i am very happy with it i can see many many things will be done with this. exciting stuff.
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can you post it please ?im on my pda atm
edit * NVM got it
Sounds Sweet!
I'll check it out...
Vista Required
Nogo on XP Pro. Requirements call for Vista or Server 2008. Might be a service driver that could be used from Vista in XP, but not sure about that.
Awesome. I have been waiting for this for some time now. It would be nice for everyone if there was mirror link posted. Also if the mods could move this to the correct section it would be great too, such as the software section.
**Edit
Thanks guys
***Another Edit
Here is a mirror for everyone
odic said:
Nogo on XP Pro. Requirements call for Vista or Server 2008. Might be a service driver that could be used from Vista in XP, but not sure about that.
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SideShow is a feature of Windows Vista and it has not been, and probably will never be, ported to older Windows versions due to underlying differences in the operating systems, driver models etc.
Such a shame this is only bluetooth, other sideshow devices utlise wifi.
Still cool to finally get it though.
ladytoast said:
Such a shame this is only bluetooth, other sideshow devices utlise wifi.
Still cool to finally get it though.
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It's still in its very early stages, so it may eventually get there and offer wifi support (Salling Clicker does it so MS definitely should be able to get it running).
I couldn't get it to work on my pavillion laptop (dv9700t)...it keeps saying 'can't connect' from the software. Yet, I can see it briefly connect then disconnect on my laptop. Oh well, back to salling clicker....
Windows SideShow for Windows Mobile Beta: Screenshot Tour
Hey Guys. This group has always had the most intense members of the Windows Mobile community and been a place where I can always count on learning something new.
I wanted to make sure everyone knew about the Windows SideShow for Windows Mobile Beta.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...84-f862-4e02-a2b0-0003b4565f34&displaylang=en
I have a screenshot tour if anyone is interested:
http://www.cjcraft.com/blog/2008/06...ndowsMobileBetaSeeTheScreenshotTourFirst.aspx
My goal to make something that people get a feel for the product and its possibilities.
--
Thanks,
Chris Craft
Windows Mobile Device Application Development MVP
http://www.cjcraft.com/blog/
InGeNeTiCs said:
I couldn't get it to work on my pavillion laptop (dv9700t)...it keeps saying 'can't connect' from the software. Yet, I can see it briefly connect then disconnect on my laptop. Oh well, back to salling clicker....
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make sure u follow the installation instruction carefully, and keep trying to connect afterwards. took me a while to get it to work, but it's definitely blows salling clicker out of the water, being it's at a preview stage.... sure has potentials
CJCraft said:
Hey Guys. This group has always had the most intense members of the Windows Mobile community and been a place where I can always count on learning something new.
I wanted to make sure everyone knew about the Windows SideShow for Windows Mobile Beta.
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This is a really neat idea in theory. I just found out about this the other day when Woot had a picture frame for sale that supported SideShow.
I found it much more useful for a device like a dumb terminal picture frame. It could allow you not to just show pictures, but overlay the weather, RSS feeds, e-mail notifications, and even stream music to the frame.
Although I like that it is being supported for WM devices, I don't really see too many advantages of the current widgets/gadgets/whatever that are out there.
A WM phone is already a powerful device that has outlook, media player, office mobile (including power point) that having to stream these as a sideshow to the device seems redundant. I'm sure some plugins will come around that are very innovative, but I don't really see the use other than novelty right now.
The advantage I see would be for developers to write just a sideshow app that can run on many platforms and not just tied to vista.
For instance a sideshow app for Windows Media Center that would allow you to turn your phone into a powerful remote for WMC.
I don't know if 2008 supports sideshow yet, but if they add it in I could see a HUGE benefit of having a server monitoring sideshow that I could connect to remotely. I could keep track of servers remotely and perform some common tasks via the sideshow.
These are the types of things I'd like to see eventually.
This was posted in the general thread, but I see this one is more active so I will post my comments here as well.
This is a really neat idea in theory. I just found out about this the other day when Woot had a picture frame for sale that supported SideShow.
I found it much more useful for a device like a dumb terminal picture frame. It could allow you not to just show pictures, but overlay the weather, RSS feeds, e-mail notifications, and even stream music to the frame.
Although I like that it is being supported for WM devices, I don't really see too many advantages of the current widgets/gadgets/whatever that are out there.
A WM phone is already a powerful device that has outlook, media player, office mobile (including power point) that having to stream these as a sideshow to the device seems redundant. I'm sure some plugins will come around that are very innovative, but I don't really see the use other than novelty right now.
The advantage I see would be for developers to write just a sideshow app that can run on many platforms and not just tied to vista.
For instance a sideshow app for Windows Media Center that would allow you to turn your phone into a powerful remote for WMC.
I don't know if 2008 supports sideshow yet, but if they add it in I could see a HUGE benefit of having a server monitoring sideshow that I could connect to remotely. I could keep track of servers remotely and perform some common tasks via the sideshow.
These are the types of things I'd like to see eventually.
That had to posted by an M$ employee
This is cool
I am giving this a shot on my Tilt with the L26 diamond v5 rom. I paired my phone with my Vista business pc and connected right away. Some of the other gadgets you can install are pointless. Gmail viewer? LOL. All you can do is view the mail... so you have to walk back over to the pc and check it anyway. The media player gadget is the best... I could actually see me using this for a party or social gathering where I can control all the tunes from my phone. I COULD NOT get the picture viewer to work!!! When I downloaded the .msi file I got the error "This application is not a valid install fie" or something of that nature.
Any ideas on that one?
i still can't get the bloody thing to work.
in my experiance of it you need to be using microsoft bluetooth stack/drivers, widcom broadcom, toshiba or blueseil dont work, which is a pain because windows bluetooth drivers are very limited as to what else they do, if anybody gets this working with bluesoeil drivers let me know
Right, I had an HTC artemis before my HTC Diamond, and I went out and baught one of
those nifty little W100 remotes. As you'll all know by now (or at least you should do) that
they only work for windows media player, and are not mappable. I want to change this!
Now, i've had a look around the file system, and in the registry, and I've found some things
that i'm curious about...
h2w_accessory.dll seems to be referenced as an active device/driver, and this seems to
be the only thing that could be remotely related to the remote. There has to be some kind
it "middle man" to open WMP and pass it the commands, and I want to gain access into it,
to break it open and generate button press events...
I have tried to access all of the serial ports by writing a small program, to see if the remote
communicated via a simple serial interface, but this yeilded no results. I have listened for
button events system wide, also via a simple program I made, but this also yeilded nothing
useful.
Does anyone know anything more about the inner workings of this remote control's drivers,
and would like to try and help make a solution, hopefully for ALL HTC devices.
I hope we can all finally get our heads down and crack open this remote for the good of
the community, and finally show HTC how to make a remote control useful for more of the
Windows Mobile population...
Hi noob here, lol.
I didnt see any onfo on Pandora for Android so I e-mailed them and heres the response I got.
Hi (insert my name here),
Each version of Pandora software for a portable device needs to be separately developed and approved by the cell carrier. PDA devices like the G1 require extensive testing before they can be certified. Unfortunately that slows the development cycle. I don't know how long it will be for the G1. It's a particularly complicated device.
You can see the up-to-date list of supported Phones at http://www.pandora.com/on-the-go
Thanks for writing. We love feedback and we read absolutely everything!
-Esteban
Pandora Listener Support
Looks like they have an app in development for the G1. No info on release time frame, but at least its not the usual no comment you expect to get. Good news as I plan on gettin a G1 in a couple of months and love my Pandora.
Well I'm perfectly happy with Imeem. Works just as well for me imo.
havent tried imeem yet, but since I already have a pretty good station set up on pandora its nice to know that they are aparantly working on something for Android.
Pandora on my Hermes was quite nie - I had just started using it.
I can't wat for an Android version. Last.fm is tollerable (almost), and I haven't tried iMeem, b/c I just want Pandora!
-bZj
That's interesting, because i thought one of the bright spots of the Android platform was that it was UN-complicated to create an app for it. Maybe they're doing it wrong!
Yeah I am using Streamfurious and it does what I need it to. Never had a chance to try Pandora, it will be nice to try on the G1
I would love pandora but Imeem gets the job done and does it well.
Have used SF, last.fm, drizzler and practically every other app for the andriod and it seems to me imeem is the closest thing to pandora.
I'm really holding out for Pandora. I use it on my home PC all the time and I can't wait to have it on my G1.
It may be some what difficult to create a pandora app. The songs are just aac files downloaded over http get requests. However the control channel is encrypted (the control channel being signing in, pandora server saying what song to pay, and feedback, etc). However like any DRM scheme pandora has to give you (the user) a way to decrypt and encrypt the control channel so you can actually use it. This means that the key used to encrypt/decrypt is located in the flash player which gets downloaded to your computer. I have used used flash decompilers and it is there (although obfuscated). The encryption is labeled "blowfish" in the code, however the decompilation was problematic and produced errors in the code. I have used Flasm to look at the flash assembly but have not got very far. It should be not extremely hard to reverse engineer this thing so we can create other players, say on android. However I have not had the time recently. Anyway thought I would share encase others wanted to know information.
I got the JAD for blackberry and the JAR for sprint phones hosted at http://moosefist.byethost2.com/ I tried running them through the J2ME converter available in the market but I get this error
Code:
Error in startnull
"CustomErrorjava.io.IOException: CustomError
at com.netmite,util.AndroidUtils.
downloadURL(Unknown Source)
at com.netmite.ade.MIDletInfo.
downloadApkFile(Unknown Source)
"
Are there any JAVA guru's willing to give this a shot? maybe this deserves a separate more dedicated post in the Development forum...
Really Immem? If you really think it holds even a thought of a candle to Pandora.. then my guess would be that you just hate music or you like the top 100 chart, which by the way Imeem does very well, But trying listing to Nick Cave, or Infected Mushroom, or Iggy Pop, or Choking Victim, or Leonard Cohen.. they have no clue how to make a radio station tailored to the artist, or even artist in the same genre. They have an app for the CrackBerrys on T-Mobile, so my guess is that its not T-Mobile being.. well T-Mobile this time. (what a novel concept)
For the time being we will have to make due with imeem or lastfm
//j
Imeem's variety sucks. Last.fm is nice but is too slow to load over EDGE.
moosefist said:
I got the JAD for blackberry and the JAR for sprint phones hosted at http://moosefist.byethost2.com/ I tried running them through the J2ME converter available in the market but I get this error
Code:
Error in startnull
"CustomErrorjava.io.IOException: CustomError
at com.netmite,util.AndroidUtils.
downloadURL(Unknown Source)
at com.netmite.ade.MIDletInfo.
downloadApkFile(Unknown Source)
"
Are there any JAVA guru's willing to give this a shot? maybe this deserves a separate more dedicated post in the Development forum...
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I just got this email from the developer of the J2ME converter
Code:
Hi, Raul,
Thanks for this information, we had took a look at the file in that web site.
There are two problems with it,
1, the jad does not have MIDlet-JAR-URL point to a valid jar file
2, the jar file refers to some custom sprint API.
We can circumverting this issue and will give u a working version in the coming release.
Thanks,
Dana
Hopefully if they get this ironed out we can have a working port of pandora from one of these files. I still invite any JAVA pro's to be them to the punch. The files are at http://moosefist.byethost2.com/ if someone wants to try.
moosefist said:
Imeem's variety sucks. Last.fm is nice but is too slow to load over EDGE.
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well if t-mo would get a ove on and listen to their customers most of us would have 3G by now. they have been telling me for three years that i would have it in 3G by the end of the year, but this isn't the place for my whining.
i personally like imeem and most of the bands that it puts in the same station as my favs, problem is though that it repeats the same songs over and over. pandora is nice but i never got used to it. it puts all kinds of weird stuff with my favs AFI and Atreyu
yeah, its not t-mobile I am on EDGE, its AT&T's for not adopting the Android platform yet....
1) Just wanna know if I could get something like STALKER mobile running on my PPC.
2) Also, my bluetooth just decided to never work again... no matter how much I switch it on/off, it just... doesn't respond. Just started doing this today... could someone please go into their PPC's /windows/ directory and give me these files in a .ZIP or .RAR?
btagsvc.dll
btd.dll
btdrt.dll
bthamb.dll
bthasplugin.dll
bthatci.dll
bthcsr.dll
bthlink.dll
bthsc.dll
bthuart.dll
bthuniv.dll
bthusb.dll
bthutil.dll
btibserial.dll
BTIcon_Dll.dll
btobserial.dll
BTSetting.exe
Doesn't have to be every last one, any that you have will do. Thanks in advance.
is your ppc a touch viva or opal? what do you mean it doesn't work? have you tried to look at the bluetooth settings?
1)
what is used to run java apps on ppc is called a midlet manager
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=The (Java) MIDlet Bible
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/inde...ing 3D-enabled Java MIDlets on Windows Mobile
Rudegar said:
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what is used to run java apps on ppc is called a midlet manager
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=The (Java) MIDlet Bible
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/inde...ing 3D-enabled Java MIDlets on Windows Mobile
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I gotta thank you big time on this! I still have a ton of JAVA games from my SymbianOS days that I'll be overjoyed to try out when I get some free time to dig into this.
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is your ppc a touch viva or opal? what do you mean it doesn't work? have you tried to look at the bluetooth settings?
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In the connection manager, I try to activate bluetooth and the icon that's supposed to appear doesn't, nor does the phone become visible. None of my bluetooth headsets, keyboards or other devices will pair or even be detected.
Or, more simply put, bluetooth just doesn't work.
I'm pretty sure a clean boot would fix it, but that's something I'm really trying to avoid since there's a whole hell of installation, registry optimization and app registration I'll have to go through again.
So instead, I did some hunting around and found a list of all the DLLs that are supposed to be in the windows folder for BT to work properly, only come to find that I'm missing very many of them.
Dunno if ALL of them are required or what, all I know is that less than 2 days ago, I had functioning bluetooth, and now it just won't do anything.
I'm guessing it's something that happened during an installation/uninstallation, and since there seems to be no BT repair apps out there, I'm looking for as many of those DLLs as I can find.
I am trying to figure out how I can light an LED with my NodeMCU V2 via the use of WiFi and a phone application I create via Android Studio but I don't know where to start nor can I find any information on how I can do it, I've seen tutorials where they make me use their 3rd party tools to achieve this and I've seen it done on a web server but I'd like it to be on a phone application. Is there any way this can be done? Bluetooth is not an option because I want it to be accessed from anywhere as I plan to port-forward the IP in the future.
This is a very interesting idea. I do not have a specific answer. I did some programming of 68HC11 about 20 years ago. The chip was mounted on a system board and connected to my desktop computer using a serial cable. I would develop the program on the desktop then download to the `11 over the serial cable. There was a small program in the `11 that would receive the program and load it into the `11 memory.
Structurally you need similar components: a software development system that run in your phone [a small Android Studio], an electronic communication link [Bluetooth, http, whatever], a system board, and software in the system board to receive commands and a data stream from the phone and load the stream of machine language into the 68HC11.
I still have the system board: CME11E9-EVBU AXM-0199 REV.C Axiom Manufacturing. For more info do a Google search for that ID, or just click here...
https://canada.newark.com/axiom/cme-11e9-evbu-ed/spi-sci-rs232-lcd-dev-board/dp/13C2791
I am not familiar with what is going on in that section of technology these days, but much of what you need should be available and findable. If such a system does not yet exist then it is a business opportunity waiting for someone like yourself.
All the best to you